AP/Ipsos: Hillary gains ten points in a week, now leads nationally
posted at 8:55 pm on May 5, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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On the eve of critical primaries in North Carolina and Indiana, yet another pollster shows a significant shift in support among Democrats nationwide to Hillary Clinton. AP/Ipsos had Barack Obama leading Hillary by three points one week earlier, but their latest survey now has Hillary ahead by seven:
The latest Ipsos poll conducted over the weekend shows that on the eve of the Indiana and North Carolina primaries, Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton has taken over the lead in popular support from Democrats nationally. Among Democratic supporters across the country, 47% say that if the 2008 Democratic presidential primary or caucus was being held in their state today, they would choose Clinton, while 40% would vote for Barack Obama.
These results are in contrast to a poll conducted by Ipsos from April 23rd to April 27th and released last week which showed that Obama had a forty-six percent to forty-three percent lead over Clinton on this same question. Democratic support for Clinton remains highest from women (51%), who have a high-school education or less (58%), and very low income respondents (57% among those with an annual household income of $25,000 or less).
The poll also shows both Democrats leading McCain by four (Obama) or five (Hillary), but like the NYT/CBS poll, the sample looks rather suspect. Ipsos polled 1,000 adults, 755 of whom were registered voters. Democrats or Dem-leaners constituted more than half of the overall sample at 514, while only 317 were Republicans or GOP leaners. Under those circumstances, the closeness of McCain — who has generated little media coverage in the last few weeks — indicates that the Democrats may have some serious problems in the fall.
For the purpose of trending among Democrats, though, the poll suffices nicely. A ten-point shift in a week with the same pollster demonstrates a significant reversal for Barack Obama, at least for the moment. The effects of Jeremiah Wright and perhaps William Ayers appear to have created momentum away from Obama, and Democrats may well wonder whether Obama can beat anyone at this point in time, let alone John McCain in November.
The question for Hillary will be whether this surge came too late. She needed this kind of movement in the polls in February, before the Obama nomination really got sold as a fait accompli. Hillary has enough evidence of Obama’s faltering campaign, but the superdelegates may be too afraid of the backlash if they act on it now. Voting for Hillary now looks like stealing the nomination from Obama, and it will take a lot of convincing before they can do that and sell it as the best decision for the party.
That makes North Carolina a critical contest. If Obama can’t beat Hillary convincingly there, she can point to a loss of confidence across the Democratic spectrum. If she actually wins — a long shot, but not impossible — Obama may have to start making a better argument for the nomination than his February momentum.
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Bottom line – Hillary now has a better chance of getting the Democratic nomination than I do.
MB4 on May 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM
If Hillary was smart, she would finance a Gallup type of poll… make sure its clean… of every state that has already had a primary.
Make it large, and from a reliable source… but then make the arguement that Obama was not vetted by the press, or party sufficiently, and so going forward SHE has more Demo support than the early primaries showed.
Romeo13 on May 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM
sure? your anti McCain ads are better than hers
windansea on May 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM
If the backlash you’re referring to is the loss of black votes over Hillary stealing the nom. from Barack, Rush had an excellent riff on that the other day:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_050108/content/01125109.guest.html
I happen to think he’s dead on.
VolMagic on May 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
yep
windansea on May 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
It sure would be nice if the pollsters get it right, or at least, be consistent with each other. Every week I hear several different polls telling me either Clinton or Obama are leading. One will say Clinton is, then another will say Obama.
This is, er, how odd that Karl Rove is talking about the validity of polls as I type this –creepy–, why I don’t pay attention to polls, or if I do, I don’t take them too seriously. They are prone to shenanigans.
Weebork on May 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
If I were Hillary, I’d make a big stink about Obama’s supremely liberal record and note that he’s too much of a radical to a)be considered sane and b)to win the nomination.
But then, she has to win over the Code-Pinks in the primary, and Lord knows they have never been coherent themselves. So here’s hoping she finds the path to victory.
emailnuevo on May 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM
noooo what a shockah! I see agendas
windansea on May 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Obama now needs 282 more delegates to win the democratic nomination. Hillary needs 416 more. That is almost half again as many. Given the non-winner-take-all system of the dems, it is almost “mathematically” impossible for her to win unless she stages some kind of coup and wreaks the democratic party. Hint – the democratic “super” delegates do not want their party wreaked.
In all likelihood – Game over.
MB4 on May 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Its Buyers remorse. It has hit both parties
William Amos on May 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Muchas gracias.
MB4 on May 5, 2008 at 9:09 PM
She’s got a crush on herself.
JammieWearingFool on May 5, 2008 at 9:09 PM
In the next 48 hrs.we should see Hillary’s demise,
however this is a Clinton, so a disaster might
happen around the corner,or act of G-D!
Hillary needs to make sure she wins these two
or the pressure will build again for her to pull
out,and that would be a crying shame,(Snicker!).Haha.
canopfor on May 5, 2008 at 9:10 PM
I don’t believe in polls, Ed. Polls aren’t always accurate.
One day they are on your side, the next day they are against you.
People will be heard and I’m gonna win.
It’s time to move America forward, it’s time to recover from 8 years of declining.
People are getting poorer, look at gas prices, look at food prices.
We need to punish the oil companies and give money back to the people.
We need to restore our international credibility.
We need to have Universal Healthcare.
I’m going to clean Washington D.C. from the Republican corruption.
I am John McCain and I approve this message.
Indy Conservative on May 5, 2008 at 9:11 PM
yep
trailortrash on May 5, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Why not mention Gallup?
Typhonsentra on May 5, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Thanks for the link, VolMagic – that was a great piece. I’ve got to listen to Rush more often.
Rosmerta on May 5, 2008 at 9:32 PM
I happen to think he dead on.
VolMagic on May 5,2008 at 9:03PM.
VolMagic:
And I agree,scaring the hell out of voters as
the Libs do is ongoing,and dirty!
During the Clinton term,the early school lunch
program for those families who for whatever reason
couldn’t afford their breakfasts were to be
increased by 5 per cent,or so.
The Liberal Democrats were on CNN,early morning
shows saying that program was going to be cut or
eliminated by Republicans!
Same story with old age pensions,again the Liberal
Democrats said they would be cut,or worse loose
their pensions,but in reality,it was to be
increased!
Oh,and the media didn’t no the difference between
an increase of a program and a program that was
going to cut?
I think at the time Newt was battling the libs
on those two issues!
So the media was in bed with the Liberals,and
the Democrats scared the H-LL out of Seniors
and parents!
canopfor on May 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
ya know…Hillary looks quite sexy in that pic
:)
windansea on May 5, 2008 at 9:38 PM
The superdelegates will have to decide if throwing the nomination to Hillary without any further collapse by Obama is worth it — Can she win if African-American voters stay away from the polls? Can down-ballot Democrats around the country win if African-Americans stay away from the polls (those candidates could end up hoping to convince voters to at least come to the polls and vote for them, even if they vote for McCain over Hillary for president).
Unless Obama is seen as a total train wreck who’ll cause blue collar Democrats to either not go to the polls or to go and vote straight Republican, odds are right now they’ll stick with Barak, even if he loses in November, in order to keep the traditional Democratic Party coalition together for 2010 and 2012.
jon1979 on May 5, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Just wanna ask you something before I go to bed:
I’m kinda wondering, the way you type and post your messages, no offense, but is this typical you or is it the French-Canadian influence on the Anglo-Saxons?
I speak French but I still am what I am, the French influenced only my tummy.
I love frogs cooked with snails and horse meat in Bouillabaisse broth.
Indy Conservative on May 5, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Rosmerta on May 5, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Happy to spread the word!
canopfor on May 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
That’s why they want to pass the Fairness Doctrine. Shutting up Rush is very important to the libs.
VolMagic on May 5, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Mr. Obama’s chickens have come home to roooooooooooost.
bloggless on May 5, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Just wanna ask you something before I go to bed.
Indy Conservative on May 5,2008 at 9:42PM.
Indy Conservative: To tell you the truth,I can’t speak
two words of French,if we had to save
Europe for the third time,Indy I would
need you to translate,and I’ll even
forgive you for that F Canadian comment
a while back(Chuckle,chuckle).
Now I have to go out a spike the block
of sugar so I can make your hunting deer
up here by car a memorible experience for
you!Haha.
canopfor on May 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Yes, the angle of the shot and her expression remind me of something …
mikeyboss on May 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Operation CHAOS?????????
Seven Percent Solution on May 5, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Hillary gains ten pounds in a week? Time to switch to lite whiskey and 3.2 beer.
whitetop on May 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Hillary is winning over the I-Hop crowd. I am afraid– very afraid.
leftnomore on May 5, 2008 at 10:21 PM
When is the time to break the news that Rep Conyers and World President Obama are planning to tackle reparations first up? Conyers must have gotten spooked, since he scrubbed his website, but the cache is still there ^_^
I heard Conyers on TV say Obama was receptive, a few weeks back. Conyers has been pushing this since 1989 or so.
Here is a link to Penn & Teller’s video over at flopping aces … http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/05/05/penn-teller-on-reparations/
As usual with Penn & Teller, the language is rough.
tarpon on May 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM
I kept hearing today that Hillary may have to go nuclear on Obama. Did anyone else hear it and if so, what were they referring to? Does she have something on the Messiah and is now forced to unleash it?
Sue on May 5, 2008 at 10:34 PM
That she dealt one or that she smelt one?
lorien1973 on May 5, 2008 at 10:47 PM
“Stinks like yesterday’s diapers”
Baby Herman
Del Dolemonte on May 5, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Anyone who bets against the Clintons is a moron.
However, I ‘ve always wondered if Hillary’s carpet matches her cutains. Anyone know?
mylegsareswollen on May 5, 2008 at 11:18 PM
She’s not going anywhere…
And wherever she ends up going, she’ll be dragging Florida and Michigan along with her.
D2Boston on May 5, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Obama will be back on top within three days. He always regains the lead when he’s shown to be down in a poll. It’s just what happens.
fiatboomer on May 6, 2008 at 1:16 AM
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