Wallace rips Dean on DNC distortions
posted at 12:15 pm on May 4, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Howard Dean made his much-anticipated appearance on Fox, and found the environment much less friendly than did Barack Obama last week. Chris Wallace pressed the DNC chair hard on the latest ads from his organization, which even the nonpartisan group Fact Check insist are distortions of John McCain’s remarks on the economy and on Iraq:
Dean sputters and spins, but doesn’t make any headway against Wallace in this appearance. He flashes a piece of paper that supposedly contains what McCain really said, but Wallace calls his bluff and shows the whole clip. Wallace also scornfully ripostes Dean’s contention that it would take “six minutes”, when it only takes less than ten seconds to show how the DNC used creative editing to distort the remarks.
It’s a remarkably dishonest effort from a remarkably dishonest man. Pay attention to how Dean never actually answers Wallace’s accusations of distortion, changing the subject back to the DNC’s talking points each time. Dean never defends his ads directly, and for good reason; they’re indefensible. Dean found himself overmatched against Wallace. Next time, he should stay in the intellectual minor leagues at MS-NBC with Keith Olbermann.
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Howard Dean is a pathetic human being.
Zorro on May 4, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Dean forgot:
Yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaahhhh!
profitsbeard on May 4, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Proves you can have your own opinions, but not your own set of facts……….
Just wish O’Reilly had really called Hillary out on issues, made her look “reasonable”……
sbark on May 4, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Are we absolutely sure Chris Wallace is the scion of Mike? This guy actually shows signs of objectivity!
sondiehl on May 4, 2008 at 12:24 PM
There couldn’t be a more appropriate person to chair that pathetic political party. Dean is a first class dunce.
rplat on May 4, 2008 at 12:24 PM
If “Dr.” Dean were a veterinarian, dogs would willfully run into traffic.
perroviejo on May 4, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Dean and the DNC want defeat so badly (for the nation; not their party). Dean stinks and when McCain wins, Dean will resign…..YEAAH!
RobCon on May 4, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Dean is a freak and the perfect chairman for the DNC.
RobCon on May 4, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Pretty much a description of the Democratic Party.
katieanne on May 4, 2008 at 12:26 PM
It was a dumb comment by McCain since he must have known - or should have - how it would be used.
He should have worded it so that the “not getting hurt” part of the line comes before the extended stay part. I.e., “As long as American soldiers are not getting hurt or attacked and they’re safe, I think a long stay in Iraq - 50 years or even a 100 - is in the best interest of this country and our security and safety.”
Sure is easy to run a campaign from behind a keyboard and monitor.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 12:27 PM
perroviejo on May 4, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Mann, I gots to clean my puter screen!
dmann on May 4, 2008 at 12:29 PM
When he is completed with his tenure as the head of the DNC, Howard Dean will make Terry MacCauliff look like the paragon of truth and honesty. It must be a job requirement that the head of the DNC be a shamelss, bald faced liar and nitwit.
Mallard T. Drake on May 4, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Dr Dean was rather laughable, and dishonest. Saying that bringing up Wright is race baiting and that democrats would never bring him up and use Willie Horton tactics.
Someone needs to tell him that Hillary thinks it is an issue, Obama acknowledged it was, and that Democrats were the first to bring up Willie Horton
firepilot on May 4, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Hey! Give Howie a break.
highhopes on May 4, 2008 at 12:31 PM
“McCain is distorting what McCain said.”
???????????????????????
Dean is a joke. Only he could make the Republicans look like responsible and smart leaders in comparison.
amkun on May 4, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Dean is your typical Liberal. Clueless, an stupid.
geminicontender on May 4, 2008 at 12:33 PM
The more I watch Chris in action, the more I admire his work. Chris Wallace stands at the top of his profession.
Whoever at FNC picked this guy deserves a raise.
petefrt on May 4, 2008 at 12:36 PM
I don’t know what it is but there is something about Dean that reminds me of Mr. Magoo. Except Magoo had a sense of humour. Kinda of appropirate now that Mr. Magoo has been banned from children’s television because someone thought his bad vision was being made fun of.
Howard Dean also reminds me a little of Salvadore Allende with his mindless marxist prattle. A smile that really isn’t a smile. Living a luxurious life while telling the rest of us to hunker down.
JonRoss on May 4, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Dean should have faded into the woodwork years ago.
trailortrash on May 4, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Howard Dean is a dishonest scumbag. He will probably go on an offensive saying how biased FoxNews is.
WisCon on May 4, 2008 at 12:43 PM
I am having a hard time watching FNS. Dean followed by 2 other shameless hacks McCauliff and Andrew. I had to mute the tv when Andrew was flapping his lips. Thankfully Brit and the gang are on now to save this wretched hour.
HawaiiLwyr on May 4, 2008 at 12:44 PM
A 3 year old child could outsmart Howard Dean.
SouthernGent on May 4, 2008 at 12:47 PM
I already knew that Howard Dean is a disgusting and dishonest POS wrapped in a human body; what I didn’t fully understand until this interview, is that Chris Wallace has much larger set of balls than Bill O’Reilly, and is a much better journalist with a much smaller ego.
Keemo on May 4, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Dean calls Republicans hateful and “evil,” and then says Republicans call people names.
In this clip, he says “I don’t think that’s so, Chris,” in response to Wallace showing him, point-by-point, how he’s a liar. What McCain says doesn’t hinge on what Howard Dean thinks; the message is objective. I will say that he was right about the Bush tax cuts, on which point McCain changed his mind.
There is no reasoning with the insane. The Democrats should have him fired/impeached/whatever, if they ever want to hope of being a party with honor.
emailnuevo on May 4, 2008 at 12:50 PM
It wouldn’t have mattered. With Dean’s editing tactics either way it comes out the same: ‘…I think a long stay in Iraq - 50 years or even a 100 - is in the best interest of this country…’
dont taze me bro on May 4, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Whole thing made me realize that the rumors about Fox being in the tank for Hillary are absolutely true. First they Softball Hillary on O’Reilly and then really take it to Dean (not that he doesn’t merit it.) Dean must have been pushing Hillary to get out/Obama as nominee.
America1st on May 4, 2008 at 12:56 PM
With that kind of unshakeable demeanor while lying, Dean would make a hell of a Scientologist! Where’s Tom Cruise?? Sign that sucker up!!
MadisonConservative on May 4, 2008 at 12:57 PM
What could Dean say?
.
Chris, your actually going to worry about a little distortion, hell, we Democrats usually get away with out right lies!
abinitioadinfinitum on May 4, 2008 at 12:59 PM
The Democrats: No Qualifiers, No Caveats, No Honesty
Seixon on May 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Hopefully the Church of Scientology is nature-conscious and environmentally-friendly.
emailnuevo on May 4, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Dean - “I don’t think our ads misrepresent anything.”
If you repeat a lie often enough you believe it. If you repeat it often enough on television other people believe it.
Dean is a power hungry bitter gas bag and needs to STFU.
cannonball on May 4, 2008 at 1:06 PM
America1st: “…softball Hillary on O’Reily…”
Maybe you wanted Bill to yell and talk over Hillary more? He asked her tough questions and had limited time to get all of his questions in. If you call O’s interview of Hillary a softball, how would you characterize overall media treatment of Barack?
cannonball on May 4, 2008 at 1:08 PM
I’m beginning to come to the conclusion that I’m a Clinton supporter. The left wing of the GOP engineered the primaries so Rudy would win and settled for McCain. Should cranky old bastard get elected in 2008, the chances in 2012 are nil. However letting a Democrat fail gives the possiblility that the real Republicans can regroup and drive the Rudy/McCain moneychangers from the temple and put up a decent candidate.
highhopes on May 4, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Howard Dean, a prime example of the ‘Peter Principle’.
GarandFan on May 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM
no wonder hillary went on the Factor. ORieley is an intellectual lightweight and she gave him so much opportunity to show how most of their positions are “fantasy”. Instead he tried to bully her and then backed off when she talked herself into a corner. If the Dems had ANY guts they would go on with Wallace, Dennis Prager or Michael Medved. But they know they’d be exposed as the idiots they are.
BadBrad on May 4, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Thank God for Howard(yeeeeeeeaaaarrrrggghhhh!!!)Dean. This insane lying b@#$%*d is the gift that keeps on giving to non-Marxists. Noticed he had an American flag lapel pin. The Old Soviet Red would have been much more honest…Insane in the membrane for this kook. I hope they keep him on for many years to come.
adamsmith on May 4, 2008 at 1:18 PM
I wonder how the nutroots are reacting to this.
On second thought, no I don’t.
jl on May 4, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Is it any wonder the New Direction Democrats have told Moderate Democrats, like myself, “there is no longer any room for people like you in our Party”! So in California, I went and re-registered as a Decline-To-State (DS), unaffilliated voter. DS voters now make up 25% of the electorate in California…and that number is growing!
DfDeportation on May 4, 2008 at 1:22 PM
We could have closed the comments section after this very first post, because it basically sums this whole story up.
Dean’s nauseating.
Vyce on May 4, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Before Soros, the Democratic party was pro-America. There have always been fringe elements in both parties, but the crazies got the upper hand with the Dems, and the Pubbies have taken the place of centrist Democrats.. Both parties seem to have drifted away from the traditional values. I anticipate much more viable interest in a split in both parties. It’ll take awhile. I just hope we can hold things together long enough for it to happen
a capella on May 4, 2008 at 1:36 PM
The Dean of disingenuousness
Kini on May 4, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Yeargh Dean is definitely an intellectual lightweight. It’s embarrassing (but fun) to watch a conservative feed a liberal his nose. Put this one in the trophy case next to the Malkin / Chris Matthews mismatch.
whitetop on May 4, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Gotta admit, RedLasso is sure unreliable on this side. Lots of timeouts and “cannot connect to server” errors and slow loads.
Chap on May 4, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Amazing — these are Dean’s words. The left has an interesting definition of “occupation.”
Splunge on May 4, 2008 at 2:32 PM
You mean Democrats lie? Who knew. Still waiting for gas prices to go down are you …
tarpon on May 4, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Doctor Dean! Sounds like a villain in an old ’60s B movie. Acts the part, too. If not for the media and proffesoriate echo chambers, the hard left would never have had any power at all. Now, those echo chambers are being dismantled by the power of the internet. About time.
Buford Gooch on May 4, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Unfortunately for them (and the nation) they don’t have anybody much better to put up there.
Corsair on May 4, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Where was Wallace when McCain was distorting Romney’s position on Iraq even more than Dean distorted McCain’s?
That’s what I would like to know.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Dean says how can we expect to stay in Iraq without being attacked by local militias, etc.
It’s the standard soft racism of liberalism: We cannot expect those “brown” people to act in a civilized manner. Its the same thing over and over again,
Here’s what I hear coming from Dean’s mouth: “We simply cannot expect those with more melanin in their skin to the same expectations as those of us with less melanin.”
2klbofun on May 4, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Why a four-year-old child could understand this report. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can’t make head nor tail out of it.
- Groucho Marx
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Kinda reminds me of a Dean appearance on FNS from 2003.
The DNC knew what they were getting into when they chose him to be chairman. Ye reap what ye sow.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on May 4, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Mosques are plenty, graveyards are plenty, but morals and whiskey are scarce. The Koran does not permit Mohammedans to drink. Their natural instinct does not permit them to be moral.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:11 PM
did we see the same thing, Ed?
As far as McCain 100 year comment, yanking that sound bite out of context isn’t really all that unfair.
McCain’s wants to stay in Iraq until no more Americans are getting killed, no matter how long it takes and how many Americans get killed achieving that goal—that is, the goal of not getting any more Americans killed. And once that goal is achieved, we’ll stay.
(h/t A.Sullivan)
sashal on May 4, 2008 at 3:14 PM
“Permit them to be moral”? What the heck does that mean?
Are you talking about human nature?
Let’s try this: who said “Men are not angels”?
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 3:21 PM
ummm didn’t unemployment just drop again?
- The Cat
MirCat on May 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM
I seem to recall reading a book with that kind of thinking in it when I was very young.
I think it was called, “
AliceJuan in Wonderland”.Sullivan probably should have given a h/t to Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (Lewis Carroll)
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:24 PM
I know! I know!
I don’t even have to look it up.
Hillary said that.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:26 PM
On the subject of the non-angelic, as in the extremely non-angelic -
Saudi Leadership soon to be going from bad to worse?
Prince Nayef, the would-be king, who is roughly 75 years of age – a mere spring chicken on the Saudi royal geriatric scale – has managed to push his way to the front of the race for the throne despite his unpopularity. A scion of the Sudairi branch of the royal family, he is disliked for his bad temper, cantankerousness, hidebound opinions and close ties with themost extremist clerical circles.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Where did McCain say he didn’t care how many Americans got killed?
Second, Sullivan has advocated leaving Iraq, as has his candidate Obama, even if the genocide of the Iraqi people ensues.
This from the same person who says that waterboarding three terrorists is a dark moral stain on the nation.
Let’s see: pouring water over three terrorists is a crime against humanity but letting thousands (millions?) of Iraqis be slaughtered is okay?
Gimme a more creditable commentator.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I dunno. Where did anyone say he said those words?
You are sounding like Al Gore with his apocalyptic Global Warming now.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Allow me to be a DNC commercial video editor for a moment…
“… I think a long stay in Iraq - 50 years or even a 100 - is in the best interest of this country and our security and safety.”
If they want to be dishonest - and they do - it doesn’t matter. ;)
Midas on May 4, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Sullivan above.
When has Gore ever used the ? when discussing global warming?
Look, I can only dumb down my posts so far. You need to start paying better attention.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 3:41 PM
MB4, didn’t you see yesterday that the Saudis played Mozart in a concert where men and women (who were not all covered) attended, together? That’s progress!
Dean - 3. the senior member, in length of service, of any group, organization, profession, etc.
Mr. Dean is perfect for the head of the DNC. He’s where Hillary and Bill want/need him to be. Otherwise he’d have run against her, and Obama (whom no one counted on to enter this early, early also being his downfall).
Entelechy on May 4, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Lies and the Lying Liar that leads their party.
CP on May 4, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Are you trying to get McCain defeated? He should not have said that either and in fact used to say very much the opposite when his mind was functioning better.
I not only think we could get along without it [United States military presence in Iraq], but I think one of our big problems has been the fact that many Iraqis resent American military presence, and I don’t pretend to know exactly Iraqi public opinion. But as soon as we can reduce our visibility as much as possible, the better I think it is going to be.
Easy to run a campaign from behind a keyboard and monitor if you are trying to get McCain defeated as you apear to be doing that is.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:48 PM
This coming from the same person who says (and says and says and says) that “Juan McCain” wants to give America to the Mexicans.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 3:52 PM
One step forward, ten steps back. So let me do a little math here and see how long at this rate it will be before they are what we in the west call civilized.
This may take a while. I will get back to you when I have finished my calculations.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Chris Wallace makes all slimy politicians squirm. You gotta love him.
Kevin M on May 4, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Well you have distorted my position considerably, but then maybe you are of the Howard Dean school of debate.
But yup, I am a critic of Juan’s for sure and the fact that I can give him better advise than you is rather sad.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Are you for illegal immigration? If your answer is “no”, then you agree with MB4.
I disagree with MB4 on some points about the war, but on immigration there’s not much one can disagree with him on. He’s gone farther than any of us in exposing, factually and with myriad of examples, the shenanigans of our government, at all levels, from both sides of the isle, our employers, the U.N. et all.
You lose your arguments if you don’t stay objective, and if you mix all views of one commenter into one bag.
Entelechy on May 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Sure, McCain should embrace anti-Muslim religious bigotry (”Their natural instinct does not permit them to be moral”),
and xenophobia and nativism against foreigners (the Mexican invasion!! Run!).
Yep, that’s the winning ticket.
He’ll get at least one vote I’m sure.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I think you have already set some kind of record in that regard.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Generally. His interview of Obama sucked. He looked little/timid, deferred, and let Obama appear Gargantuan, for no reason or justification, whatsoever.
Entelechy on May 4, 2008 at 4:02 PM
He (or she) goes much much further than criticizing our immigration policies. And I’m directing my response solely at him (or her) and not others who correctly argue that we need to control our borders.
To claim that “Juan” McCain wants to “sell out” America to illegal immigrants is absurd and silly.
That’s what I’m responding to.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:03 PM
You’re my demo, as they say.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Those are C.A.I.R and la Raza’s talking points.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM
What was shamnesty all about then? And what’s one of the main reasons why the conservatives are not with McCain yet?
p.s. MB4 has tens of times said that he’s a “he”.
Entelechy on May 4, 2008 at 4:07 PM
.
You said: “Their [Muslims] natural instinct does not permit them to be moral”.
That’s not bigotry?
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Are “they” speaking to you through your hair dryer?
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Okay “he”.
You think McCain - John McCain - wants, deliberately and willfully wants - not that’s he wrong or misguided or stupid - but that he wants to sell out this country?
He deliberately wants to hurt this country?
Again, not that he’s stupid or ill-advised or dumb.
McCain wants to sell this country out and hurt it?
That’s dumb.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:10 PM
No, they’re the ones incapable of intellectually responding to posts that show the utter bankruptcy of their views.
Views such as: “Their [Muslims] natural instinct does not permit them to be moral”.
Now that’s a bankrupt and bigoted view that needs to be condemned where ever and when ever it pops up.
Substitute Christians or Jews or Buddhists or any other religion for Muslims and see what that shows.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:14 PM
You are dodging the matter of your doing extreme C.A.I.R and la Raza talking points.
And no it was a quote from Mark Twain, as was also indicated previously, and not bigotry, but rather his observations put to verse. He did that a lot and had no sacred cows (or goats or camels for that matter).
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:14 PM
SteveMG, it’s already too late. McCain just wants to make it official. So does Hillary and Obama. You can call anyone dumb all you wish. It doesn’t make it so. Also, who has time to fight shamnesty this good Sunday? We’ll have to fight it again no matter who wins in 2008.
This country is already hurt plenty. Just look at Calif. budget? I work in the hospital business. I could write you novels about illegal immigration, but I’ll spare you the details today.
Entelechy on May 4, 2008 at 4:14 PM
I agree.
Another debate for another time.
Last word: On this issue, I think McCain is dumb; not venal.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Do you think that Muslims “natural instinct does not permit them to be moral”?
Natural? Innate, genetic, inborn?
Do you agree or not with that statement?
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Steve, none of them ar dumb. They, lefties/righties, look out for their respective political interests, and in the process both do destroy this country. We may use whichever terminology we please, but that’s the bottom line.
I think that you and I agree more on amnesty, than we disagree. Have a great Sunday, and don’t worry too much. We’ll be here to sort it out.
Entelechy on May 4, 2008 at 4:20 PM
It is enlightened American free speech and you sound more holier-than-thou and more-offended-than-thou and more-pc-than-thou than most on the other side of the “street”.
If you think that Christianity, Judaism and Buddhism are equatable to Islam then I can’t help you. Maybe Robert Spencer can still reach you though. Why don’t you order a copy of his book, “Religion of Peace?: Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t.” and then maybe you could start to see the light?
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Did you see the Howard Dean interview?
There goes your argument (tongue in cheek).
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:24 PM
I obviously think that it has a lot of merit, Judge Judy.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Steve, by “none of them” I meant McCain, Hillary and Obama. Dean is in a ‘league’ of his own :)
Entelechy on May 4, 2008 at 4:29 PM
You have every right to hold such noxious views about an entire group of people.
And I have every right to denounce those stupid, ill-informed and patently absurd views about 1 billion+ human beings.
You do know what “natural instinct” means? Natural? As in genetic or innate?
One billion Muslims are naturally immoral?
All of them? Every man woman and child including those who are trying to reform the religion and liberalize it?
Every single one of them?
Absurd.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Why don’t you try something different for a change of pace and respond to someones own words rather than changing someones words and then “responding” to that? If you keep on as you are someone might get the idea that you are some kind of bigot.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM
This coming from the person who says all Muslims are naturally immoral.
Not some of them. All of them. Including those who are trying to liberalize and modernize the religion away from its ugly elements.
And exactly what group of people am I bigoted against?
People who say stupid and silly things?
I plead guilty.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Your understanding of literature and famous quotes is profoundly lacking.
Your more-pc-than-thou masturbation is running rampant though.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Are you fracken pc induced brain dead? It was a quote, a Mark Twain quote. Quotes are statements of opinion, often exaggerated, sometimes satirical, and almost always generalizations.
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Burn!
29Victor on May 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Last chance: Do you embrace Twain’s views of Muslims?
Twain has the defense or excuse of writing about a century ago when such thoughts were common.
No one has the excuse today. For we are better educated.
Or should be.
SteveMG on May 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Sun Tzu: All war is based on deception.
SteveMG: You are an idiot Sun Tzu. Not every single war is based on deception!
Sun Tzu: He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious.
SteveMg: You are crazy Sun Tzu as that is not always the case!
Sun Tzu: There is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare.
SteveMG: You are a damn bigot Sun Tzu as that sounds like a put down of Iraqi Muslims!
Niccolo Machiavelli: People are by nature fickle, and it is easy to persuade them of something, but difficult to keep them persuaded.
SteveMG: Now you there Niccolo you are bigoted against the whole human race! You are even worse than that stupid bigot Sun tzu!
MB4 on May 4, 2008 at 4:50 PM
04:26 in the clip: bio scroll at the bottom calls Dean in 2004 a “Democratic Presidential Nominee“.
Did I miss something? Wasn’t Kerry the nominee? …and Dean was the big screaming idiot that the Dems thought was so great they made him chairman?
pecan pie on May 4, 2008 at 4:57 PM
pecan, idiocy gets rewarded by the lefties.
Entelechy on May 4, 2008 at 5:00 PM
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