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		<title>By: Crush Liberalism</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/04/the-private-sector-succeeds-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1106378</link>
		<dc:creator>Crush Liberalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Private sector&#160;works&#8230;again...&lt;/strong&gt;

Warning to any socialist or otherwise Big Government advocates: the following information may disrupt your worldview.  Unless, of course, you&#8217;re impervious to facts, in which case you may feel little to no discomfort at all.  From Hot Air:
In t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Private sector&nbsp;works&#8230;again&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Warning to any socialist or otherwise Big Government advocates: the following information may disrupt your worldview.  Unless, of course, you&#8217;re impervious to facts, in which case you may feel little to no discomfort at all.  From Hot Air:<br />
In t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: herself</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/04/the-private-sector-succeeds-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1106342</link>
		<dc:creator>herself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a resident of Hermosa Beach at the time I well remember the sinking feeling that any commute between the Valley and the LA basin would be living hell for YEARS after the Northridge event which proved, &quot;yes, Virginia, concrete CAN bend!&quot; (Look up the parking structure photos. As an engineer who drove by it in that bent state it was surprising to see. The rebars provided the &quot;structure&quot; but the concrete had more cohesion than I ever expected to see.)

Anyway, the private contracts for repairing the bridges in the LA area were a master-stroke. It saved Los Angelenos and  their neighbors untold millions of dollars in wasted commute time alone.

The moral of these stories is, &quot;If you have a problem then make it worth the while of someone in the private sector to fix it. Then stay out of their way except to perform normal inspections during construction.&quot;

{^_^}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident of Hermosa Beach at the time I well remember the sinking feeling that any commute between the Valley and the LA basin would be living hell for YEARS after the Northridge event which proved, &#8220;yes, Virginia, concrete CAN bend!&#8221; (Look up the parking structure photos. As an engineer who drove by it in that bent state it was surprising to see. The rebars provided the &#8220;structure&#8221; but the concrete had more cohesion than I ever expected to see.)</p>
<p>Anyway, the private contracts for repairing the bridges in the LA area were a master-stroke. It saved Los Angelenos and  their neighbors untold millions of dollars in wasted commute time alone.</p>
<p>The moral of these stories is, &#8220;If you have a problem then make it worth the while of someone in the private sector to fix it. Then stay out of their way except to perform normal inspections during construction.&#8221;</p>
<p>{^_^}</p>
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		<title>By: Nahanni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nahanni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t tell the Democrats in California and Minnesota that they are just copying what Texas has been doing for decades. 

Their heads might implode from the thought that they might be doing anything like those &quot;bible thumpin, gun totin&#039;, doublewide with an El Camino up on blocks in the front yard livin&#039; ignorant racist redneck morons&quot; in Texas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t tell the Democrats in California and Minnesota that they are just copying what Texas has been doing for decades. </p>
<p>Their heads might implode from the thought that they might be doing anything like those &#8220;bible thumpin, gun totin&#8217;, doublewide with an El Camino up on blocks in the front yard livin&#8217; ignorant racist redneck morons&#8221; in Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Bob</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/04/the-private-sector-succeeds-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1106214</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, MNDOT bids out projects like bridge construction - that&#039;s business as usual.  They&#039;ve also come up with the design-build approach to speed projects.  That&#039;s all good.

However, MNDOT does an absolutely pitiful and woefully inadequate job of road maintenance.  I&#039;ve seen large cracks in concrete pavement on a major highway sit untouched for 5 to 10 years - meanwhile the usual MN freeze-that cycles damage the pavement further, resulting in a more expensive repair later (assuming they ever do make the repair).  Basically, there is zero preventive maintenance of road surfaces.

What MNDOT should do is outsource road maintenance and repair, like they do with building bridges and offer incentives based on a) improving quality of the driving surface, b) doing preventive maintenance and c) quickness in responding to fixing problems when they first occur.

MNDOT also needs to strengthen the contruction standards for new roads they build.  Some of the roads built in the last 20 years that are not lasting the supposed 30 year life span the standards call for.  I&#039;ve seen some have major deficiencies in less than 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, MNDOT bids out projects like bridge construction &#8211; that&#8217;s business as usual.  They&#8217;ve also come up with the design-build approach to speed projects.  That&#8217;s all good.</p>
<p>However, MNDOT does an absolutely pitiful and woefully inadequate job of road maintenance.  I&#8217;ve seen large cracks in concrete pavement on a major highway sit untouched for 5 to 10 years &#8211; meanwhile the usual MN freeze-that cycles damage the pavement further, resulting in a more expensive repair later (assuming they ever do make the repair).  Basically, there is zero preventive maintenance of road surfaces.</p>
<p>What MNDOT should do is outsource road maintenance and repair, like they do with building bridges and offer incentives based on a) improving quality of the driving surface, b) doing preventive maintenance and c) quickness in responding to fixing problems when they first occur.</p>
<p>MNDOT also needs to strengthen the contruction standards for new roads they build.  Some of the roads built in the last 20 years that are not lasting the supposed 30 year life span the standards call for.  I&#8217;ve seen some have major deficiencies in less than 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: RBMN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RBMN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 23:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A problem with public sector work is that you&#039;ll rarely see a benefit for exceptional effort. But you do get full credit for your mistakes. And the best way to avoid credit for mistakes is to do the absolute minimum, and do it by committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A problem with public sector work is that you&#8217;ll rarely see a benefit for exceptional effort. But you do get full credit for your mistakes. And the best way to avoid credit for mistakes is to do the absolute minimum, and do it by committee.</p>
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		<title>By: Speakup</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/04/the-private-sector-succeeds-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1106143</link>
		<dc:creator>Speakup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 22:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The result?  The contractor restored the roads and bridges in months instead of years, and at a fraction of the cost that Caltrans would have incurred.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And I&#039;ll bet in Mn. just like in Ca. a number of &quot;prominent&quot; people will cry and moan and sue because they are just too short sighted to see or appreciate the huge amount of money and time (which represents more money) saved by offering incentives and &lt;em&gt;getting over it&lt;/em&gt; from paying them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The result?  The contractor restored the roads and bridges in months instead of years, and at a fraction of the cost that Caltrans would have incurred.</p></blockquote>
<p>And I&#8217;ll bet in Mn. just like in Ca. a number of &#8220;prominent&#8221; people will cry and moan and sue because they are just too short sighted to see or appreciate the huge amount of money and time (which represents more money) saved by offering incentives and <em>getting over it</em> from paying them.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanderlust</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/04/the-private-sector-succeeds-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1106116</link>
		<dc:creator>Wanderlust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 21:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Agree with Wanderlust… wasn’t Boston’s “Big Dig” handled by private contractors as well?

Skywise on May 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, and that project was a perfect case for the argument I made above. Bottom line regarding the Big Dig&#039;s financial and engineering woes was that the State of MA sloughed off its responsibility to manage the project in terms of it being the customer - it pushed this responsibility off to the contractor (Bechtel/Parsons Brinkerhoff JV) as its agent, and failed to include in the scope of the agency arrangement all the things that the State would hold responsibility and liability over, post project handover.

Then MA changed the rules several times, including the scope of construction that led to the woman getting killed by a falling bolt in the Ted Williams tunnel, after the plans had been written to incorporate a different design type.

Also (anecdotally, via Bruce at MassBackwards blog; Google is your friend), MA allegedly imposed &quot;diversity&quot; hiring targets on the JV that elevated certain kinds of statistics (e.g., race and gender) over that of experience and qualifications. If this allegation is true, it would have significantly impacted the project schedule.

Ed, a good read about lessons learned from that project can be found at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_4_big_dig.html &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this link at City Journal&lt;/a&gt;. Regarding scope creep, here&#039;s the money quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In 1994, two years into construction, Bechtel and Parsons officials compiled convincing evidence that the Big Dig would cost nearly $14 billion in completion-year dollars—far more than public officials were disclosing—and took their findings to the state, says former state inspector general Bob Cerasoli, who supervised a 2001 report on the Big Dig’s finances. But the state didn’t tell the public, so alarming Bechtel that its president flew to Boston to see then-governor William Weld. Afterward, according to Cerasoli’s report, “state managers directed state and [Bechtel and Parsons] staff to . . . maintain the fiction of an . . . $8 billion project. . . . They did so by applying a largely semantic series of exclusions, deductions, and accounting assumptions that covered up the $6 billion difference,” often with the knowledge of federal highway officials.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the end, MA extorted (my words) approx $500M out of the JV to cover project overrun costs and liabilities out of accidents and repairs.

Food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Agree with Wanderlust… wasn’t Boston’s “Big Dig” handled by private contractors as well?</p>
<p>Skywise on May 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, and that project was a perfect case for the argument I made above. Bottom line regarding the Big Dig&#8217;s financial and engineering woes was that the State of MA sloughed off its responsibility to manage the project in terms of it being the customer &#8211; it pushed this responsibility off to the contractor (Bechtel/Parsons Brinkerhoff JV) as its agent, and failed to include in the scope of the agency arrangement all the things that the State would hold responsibility and liability over, post project handover.</p>
<p>Then MA changed the rules several times, including the scope of construction that led to the woman getting killed by a falling bolt in the Ted Williams tunnel, after the plans had been written to incorporate a different design type.</p>
<p>Also (anecdotally, via Bruce at MassBackwards blog; Google is your friend), MA allegedly imposed &#8220;diversity&#8221; hiring targets on the JV that elevated certain kinds of statistics (e.g., race and gender) over that of experience and qualifications. If this allegation is true, it would have significantly impacted the project schedule.</p>
<p>Ed, a good read about lessons learned from that project can be found at <a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_4_big_dig.html " rel="nofollow">this link at City Journal</a>. Regarding scope creep, here&#8217;s the money quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>In 1994, two years into construction, Bechtel and Parsons officials compiled convincing evidence that the Big Dig would cost nearly $14 billion in completion-year dollars—far more than public officials were disclosing—and took their findings to the state, says former state inspector general Bob Cerasoli, who supervised a 2001 report on the Big Dig’s finances. But the state didn’t tell the public, so alarming Bechtel that its president flew to Boston to see then-governor William Weld. Afterward, according to Cerasoli’s report, “state managers directed state and [Bechtel and Parsons] staff to . . . maintain the fiction of an . . . $8 billion project. . . . They did so by applying a largely semantic series of exclusions, deductions, and accounting assumptions that covered up the $6 billion difference,” often with the knowledge of federal highway officials.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the end, MA extorted (my words) approx $500M out of the JV to cover project overrun costs and liabilities out of accidents and repairs.</p>
<p>Food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Ares</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 21:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed I would also caution you about this. Procurement management is typically something that the state has no experience in whatsoever. 

Google &quot;Private Finance Initiatives&quot; in the UK for some prime examples of this. There are a number of UK companies who are going to make an absolute killing out of UK PFI deals at the taxpayer&#039;s expense because of the incompetence of the government functionaries who negotiated the deals...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed I would also caution you about this. Procurement management is typically something that the state has no experience in whatsoever. </p>
<p>Google &#8220;Private Finance Initiatives&#8221; in the UK for some prime examples of this. There are a number of UK companies who are going to make an absolute killing out of UK PFI deals at the taxpayer&#8217;s expense because of the incompetence of the government functionaries who negotiated the deals&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: corona</title>
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		<dc:creator>corona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 20:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you knew about Tutor-Saliba, you wouldn&#039;t be joking about a windfall profits tax on construction companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you knew about Tutor-Saliba, you wouldn&#8217;t be joking about a windfall profits tax on construction companies.</p>
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		<title>By: JellyToast</title>
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		<dc:creator>JellyToast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This needs to be remembered. A very good example of how free enterprise succeeds where government fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This needs to be remembered. A very good example of how free enterprise succeeds where government fails.</p>
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		<title>By: corona</title>
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		<dc:creator>corona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 20:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all fairness, the private sector was responsible for the flawed design of the structures (parking, library wings) that collapsed at CSUN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all fairness, the private sector was responsible for the flawed design of the structures (parking, library wings) that collapsed at CSUN.</p>
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		<title>By: Mojack420</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojack420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only problem is when the state was was cutting the red tape to fix LA after northridge , up north our freeways and bridges were still being bogged down in red tape. the bridge toll went from 2$ to 3$ the extra dollar was for the repairs after the two earthquakes now that they are fixes &quot;well all except the bay bridge&quot; which is a huge mess thank you brown and brown . I want my dollar back damn it , will i ever get that dollar back ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only problem is when the state was was cutting the red tape to fix LA after northridge , up north our freeways and bridges were still being bogged down in red tape. the bridge toll went from 2$ to 3$ the extra dollar was for the repairs after the two earthquakes now that they are fixes &#8220;well all except the bay bridge&#8221; which is a huge mess thank you brown and brown . I want my dollar back damn it , will i ever get that dollar back ???</p>
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		<title>By: knat</title>
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		<dc:creator>knat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great example of American ingenuity, hard work and entrepreneurship ids what happened in San Fran last year with the bridge that collapsed after the fuel tanker exploded. This dude knows how to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/05/25/MNG6EQ1IDG1.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;build a bridge&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great example of American ingenuity, hard work and entrepreneurship ids what happened in San Fran last year with the bridge that collapsed after the fuel tanker exploded. This dude knows how to <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/05/25/MNG6EQ1IDG1.DTL" rel="nofollow">build a bridge</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: rockhauler</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockhauler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health care anyone?</description>
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		<title>By: ColtsFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ColtsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
You can always find examples both ways &lt;strong&gt;but overall it is obvious that the private sector generally &lt;/strong&gt;does a much better and more efficient job.
duff65 on May 4, 2008 at 2:04 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good point.

I think that was the Captain&#039;s main point.  

Indeed, there may be &quot;exceptions&quot; or individual cases that may raise &quot;red flags&quot; to embracing some versions of Libertarianism that deny&lt;em&gt; any governmental activity &lt;/em&gt;of &lt;em&gt;any &lt;/em&gt;sort.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Thanks for your posts and the link. Quality stuff.

RushBaby on May 4, 2008 at 2:07 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank you. I have enjoyed reading your comments in the past.</description>
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You can always find examples both ways <strong>but overall it is obvious that the private sector generally </strong>does a much better and more efficient job.<br />
duff65 on May 4, 2008 at 2:04 PM
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<p>Good point.</p>
<p>I think that was the Captain&#8217;s main point.  </p>
<p>Indeed, there may be &#8220;exceptions&#8221; or individual cases that may raise &#8220;red flags&#8221; to embracing some versions of Libertarianism that deny<em> any governmental activity </em>of <em>any </em>sort.  </p>
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Thanks for your posts and the link. Quality stuff.</p>
<p>RushBaby on May 4, 2008 at 2:07 PM
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<p>Thank you. I have enjoyed reading your comments in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Macklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Macklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a gasoline tanker accident and explosion on a newly completed overpass on I95 in Bridgeport CT. An already heavily congested stretch of road. The fire melted the new steel girders and destroyed the new roadbed and surface. Initial estimates were six weeks to put in a new bridge.

As the whole area of the highway was under construction, they diverted materials and resources from other projects and had a new bridge up in days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a gasoline tanker accident and explosion on a newly completed overpass on I95 in Bridgeport CT. An already heavily congested stretch of road. The fire melted the new steel girders and destroyed the new roadbed and surface. Initial estimates were six weeks to put in a new bridge.</p>
<p>As the whole area of the highway was under construction, they diverted materials and resources from other projects and had a new bridge up in days.</p>
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		<title>By: RushBaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>RushBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I recommend this  website  to my HA friends. The articles on economics and Statism are pretty good.

ColtsFan on May 4, 2008 at 1:08 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks for your posts and the link. Quality stuff.</description>
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<p>ColtsFan on May 4, 2008 at 1:08 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for your posts and the link. Quality stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: duff65</title>
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		<dc:creator>duff65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can always find examples both ways but overall it is obvious that the private sector generally does a much better and more efficient job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can always find examples both ways but overall it is obvious that the private sector generally does a much better and more efficient job.</p>
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		<title>By: Feedie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feedie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Install and operate cameras and then issue tickets for running red lights.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
California passed a state law pre-empting some shenanigans the private contractor was using to enhance revenue in So-Cal.  Short timing the yellow light was a favorite.

Ten years ago, I&#039;d have been dead set against these things, but red-light running got so blatant here in the north state that something needed to be done.  It&#039;s rude and dangerous, and if it takes a $300 ticket to get their attention, then I&#039;m all for it.  It beats raising taxes, and violators can watch the digital videos of themselves with a password on the web.  A police officer reviews each violation before a ticket is issued, so iffy cases can be tossed.

The private sector installs and the city monitors and collects -- from the people who most deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Install and operate cameras and then issue tickets for running red lights.</p></blockquote>
<p>California passed a state law pre-empting some shenanigans the private contractor was using to enhance revenue in So-Cal.  Short timing the yellow light was a favorite.</p>
<p>Ten years ago, I&#8217;d have been dead set against these things, but red-light running got so blatant here in the north state that something needed to be done.  It&#8217;s rude and dangerous, and if it takes a $300 ticket to get their attention, then I&#8217;m all for it.  It beats raising taxes, and violators can watch the digital videos of themselves with a password on the web.  A police officer reviews each violation before a ticket is issued, so iffy cases can be tossed.</p>
<p>The private sector installs and the city monitors and collects &#8212; from the people who most deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: aLoha Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>aLoha Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it was.  But building a single bridge of no great length. Is of no comparison to the complexity of building a tunnel under the central artery of a major city.  While continuing to use the central artery.  The oversight of the Big Dig should have been much better because of that.

I just hope Flatiron shares some of that incentive with the workers. They made it happen too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it was.  But building a single bridge of no great length. Is of no comparison to the complexity of building a tunnel under the central artery of a major city.  While continuing to use the central artery.  The oversight of the Big Dig should have been much better because of that.</p>
<p>I just hope Flatiron shares some of that incentive with the workers. They made it happen too!</p>
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		<title>By: PresidenToor</title>
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		<dc:creator>PresidenToor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A whole editorial about how the government should outsource every nut and bolt to the private sector and the free market, but not a single word about oversight.  You can&#039;t base the direction this country should go on a theory that has proven ill-fated as many times as it has proven good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A whole editorial about how the government should outsource every nut and bolt to the private sector and the free market, but not a single word about oversight.  You can&#8217;t base the direction this country should go on a theory that has proven ill-fated as many times as it has proven good.</p>
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		<title>By: Skywise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skywise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Wanderlust... wasn&#039;t Boston&#039;s &quot;Big Dig&quot; handled by private contractors as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Wanderlust&#8230; wasn&#8217;t Boston&#8217;s &#8220;Big Dig&#8221; handled by private contractors as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Merovign</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merovign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>highhopes: Why can&#039;t you hold them to the same level of accountability?

Especially when courts are generally wary of suits against police (except those involving brutality or loss of life), but far less so against private companies?

I&#039;m not saying I like the light cameras - I understand why they use them, but I&#039;ve never trusted them, especially since I&#039;m always seeing them going off on empty intersections and people still run reds like crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>highhopes: Why can&#8217;t you hold them to the same level of accountability?</p>
<p>Especially when courts are generally wary of suits against police (except those involving brutality or loss of life), but far less so against private companies?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying I like the light cameras &#8211; I understand why they use them, but I&#8217;ve never trusted them, especially since I&#8217;m always seeing them going off on empty intersections and people still run reds like crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: highhopes</title>
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		<dc:creator>highhopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction to my post above.....

Install and operate cameras and then issue tickets for running red lights.</description>
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<p>Install and operate cameras and then issue tickets for running red lights.</p>
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		<title>By: highhopes</title>
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		<dc:creator>highhopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps at some point, people will learn to harness the power of the private sector more completely for future public efforts as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I have a real problem with some applications of this theory.  For example, police departments that allow private companies install, operate, and issue tickets for running red lights.  You simply can&#039;t hold a contractor to the same level of accountability as you do a public official.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Perhaps at some point, people will learn to harness the power of the private sector more completely for future public efforts as well.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have a real problem with some applications of this theory.  For example, police departments that allow private companies install, operate, and issue tickets for running red lights.  You simply can&#8217;t hold a contractor to the same level of accountability as you do a public official.</p>
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