Video: Clinton operative didn’t call Indianans “white n*****s” in 1992 Update III: Dirty trick? Update: Character witness

posted at 11:05 am on May 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Update IV: This is almost certainly a dirty trick aimed at Mickey Kantor and the Clinton campaign. Read all the way through the updates.

The Hillary Clinton campaign has run on a platform of 90′s nostalgia, but it won’t like this flashback to 1992. A video making the rounds today shows James Carville, George Stephanopolous, and Mickey Kantor conferring over polling results for Indiana. Kantor, who would become a member of Bill Clinton’s Cabinet and an adviser to Hillary now, offers a pungent view of Indiana voters that gives an idea of the contempt in which Democrats hold white, working-class Americans:

Kantor: Wait, wait, look at Indiania — 42-40. It doesn’t matter if we win. Those people are shit. Oh, excuse me … How would you like to be a worthless white n*****? [Note: See update III]

And suddenly, Crackerquiddick is on the other foot. This looks like it came from The WRoom, a documentary about the first Clinton presidential campaign, although I don’t recall the scene. Regardless, there can be little dispute about the people in the video being Carville, Stephanopolous, and Kantor.

What makes this worse is that Kantor gives that creepy, sotto voce whisper while saying this, knowing how bad it sounds but obviously unable to stop himself from saying it. Neither Carville nor Stephanopolous challenge Kantor, at least not in this clip. All three appear to agree that Indiana voters are worthless for Democrats even when they supported Clinton.

This isn’t quite as bad as Obama’s comments in San Francisco in a couple of respects. Hillary isn’t saying this, and it was 16 years ago, not six weeks ago. However, the disgust for the white working class comes through much more clearly in this video, and the fact that it comes from a former Clinton Cabinet official and current adviser makes it all the more compelling.

Indiana voters go to the polls in less than a week. Will they figure out which campaign despises them less?

Update: This looks like a winner in the netroots, too. Both Kos and DU have begun promoting it, and readers at TPM Election Center already have accused Josh and Greg of ignoring it for the minutes it’s been out on the Internet.

Just when we thought the identity politics meltdown had reached its zenith …

Update II: Via The Corner, the HuffPo has a denial of sorts from Kantor:

Mickey Kantor, who served as campaign chairman during Clinton’s 1992 run for the White House and says he has offered help and advice to Sen. Clinton, insisted that the tape was a fraud and that he was exploring legal steps against the individual who posted it online.

“I’ve never used that word [the n-word] in my entire life, ever, under any circumstance, ever,” an angry Kantor told The Huffington Post, citing his and his parent’s work fighting for civil rights. “I have listened to [the video] and so have you. You can’t tell what it is I’m saying in that second sentence, you can’t decipher that.”

As Byron York points out, that still leaves Kantor calling Hoosiers “shit” even when they support Democrats. It’s not exactly a helpful walkback, especially since his best effort is to claim that people can’t hear what he whispered to Stephanopolous. And when the volume gets raised, it certainly sounds as though the closed-caption text in the video gets the quote accurate.

Update III: The director of War Room says this is a fabrication, and that makes sense; even in 1993, this would have made headlines if it came off like this. Take another listen to the audio in the clip that started going around yesterday:

Now, what Kantor and director D.A Pennebaker claim is that Kantor said this:

Those people are shit — Oh, excuse me … shitting in the White House [at Perot's numbers].

Notice that yesterday’s version stops before his alleged racial reference to Stephanopolous, too.

Now, the big question is this: if the version going around today is doctored, who doctored it and who started spreading it around the Internet? Cui bono? Who benefits from a dirty trick against Hillary in the days just before the election, especially one that plays against the white, working-class voters? Hint: Does Hope and Change sound familiar?

It won’t have come from any campaign or established organization, though. No one would be that foolish.

Update V: Here’s the clip from War Room, thanks to Ed Driscoll. Go to about 4:30 in this YouTube, and see for yourself. The context is clearly the polling results and how bad they looked for the Bush campaign, referencing Texas specifically:

I understand the original video has been pulled by the owner. That tells us something.

Update (AP): For what it’s worth, KP e-mails to say that she worked for Kantor at the White House and knows he’d never use language like this. I believe it: We’re not talking about surveillance cam video here, where Kantor might not have known he was being recorded. Pennebaker had a lens right in his face. He’d have to be an abject moron to drop the N-bomb with the tape rolling.

I sure hope we don’t find Team Barry’s fingerprints on this highly racially polarizing little smear job.

Update (Ed): Go read Baldilock’s excellent post on the etymology of the racial epithet.


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Fake but accurate?

Seixon on May 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

apollyonbob on May 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Gilda on May 2, 2008 at 12:35 PM

My mistake fellows. Upon second review, you are correct. It does deal with both lines. The video is 100% crap.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Be sure to read all the way through the updates.

Ed Morrissey on May 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Kantor, who would become a member of Bill Clinton’s Cabinet and an adviser to Hillary now, offers a pungent view of Indiana voters that gives an idea of the contempt in which Democrats hold white, working-class Americans

Kantor reminds me how ‘little’ the Clinton staff members were, in more than one way.

Thanks to the undeniable liberal elitism and hypocrisy, and the technology age…heads will explode at the beginning of Nov.

Entelechy on May 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

A little movie trailer brought to you by the Democrat Party:

- GD America
- I have never been proud of my country
- Indiana is shit
- Pennsylvanians are bitter

The End

Can’t wait for the sequel.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

But of course, it’s politically correct to talk shit about poor white trash, while it’s racism to talk shit about poor black trash.

Seixon on May 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Actually it’s interesting that “white nigger” is an insult to whites. Think about it.

baldilocks on May 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Why would he call Indianians “shit” when you can see from the context of the video that he’s excited about the polling numbers from Indiana? It doesnt make sense

Plus you can year him say White House as the camera is being pulled away.

Chuck Schick on May 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Hint: Does Hope and Change sound familiar?

Ed, you forgot Unity.

Entelechy on May 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM

I just listened to the original video and Kantor says the word “Texas” at the end. So, today’s version is doctored.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Be sure to read all the way through the updates.

Ed Morrissey on May 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Just did Ed. It does give pause.

Nyog_of_the_Bog on May 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Now, the big question is this: if the version going around today is doctored, who doctored it and who started spreading it around the Internet? Cui bono? Who benefits from a dirty trick against Hillary in the days just before the election, especially one that plays against the white, working-class voters? Hint: Does Hope and Change sound familiar?

I’m guessing this is a little pee-on Obama supporter with a computer and a small amount of technical know-how. I would be shocked if an actually Obama campaign staffer did this. Its far too easily debunked.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Beautiful, just beautiful. The Obama people are total sacks of poo, and how on earth did they think they would get away with this? Stephanopolis has his own NEWS SHOW on ABC now, fellas.

Oh, and his friends in the media are a hell of a lot more powerful than Olberdouche and the Obamassiah shills who are gonna try to sell this fabrication.

Spreading hateful lies about his opponents almost, almost won Obama the White House. I think his dirty run is almost over….hopefully never to be repeated.

funky chicken on May 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Actually it’s interesting that “white nigger” is an insult to whites. Think about it.

baldilocks on May 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

baldi, that’s what the lefties might call you now :)

Entelechy on May 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Gilda, that link is only making reference to the second line which, doctorred, sounds like he whispers “how would you like to be a white ni**er?”
The line that comes before that, though, is clear in both videos. He says, referencing people from Indiana, “those people are shit.” Nor does he deny having said that.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Look at the context. He is saying they do not need Indiana to win, in other words, they don’t mean shit.

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Currently it’s number one by far on Digg with no correction, update, or possibly inaccurate flag.

This nutroots dirty trick was very efficient and coordinated and will echo around the tubes in infamy.

econavenger on May 2, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Putting on the headphones it confirms he says, “. . . excuse me . . . s***ing in the White House” BUT, like Ed said, the racial slur is just as apparent. Unless an over dub was made and can be proven this won’t explain away easily.

srhoades on May 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM

We’ll just have to wait and see who old Robert Byrd superdelegates with :) Remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FIBJt-c2o0

BJ* on May 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Actually it’s interesting that “white nigger” is an insult to whites. Think about it.

baldilocks on May 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Oh definitely. It doesn’t take much thought to realize that that term is more an insult towards african americans. That was why it became such a big deal for former KKK Klansman Robert Byrd to shout the term several times in his interview years back. Only a true racist (towards blacks) individual would utter that term.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM

And Carville is gonna find out who produced this fabrication and eat his heart and liver on national television. I hope it’s Olberdouche, but wishes aren’t ponies, etc.

funky chicken on May 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM

BJ*, you beat me to it by one post

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM

This should solve the mystery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A47H4qzV3ms

Watching it myself right now.

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM

IF it is “doctored” and Fake, it works just as well; because rightly or wrong, Obama’s campaign gets blamed, even IF they didn’t do it directly, and more backlash against Obama, on top of Wright….just too beautiful.

Because, Obama IS going to get the nomination, and Hillary is going to be eating his dust, but with dirty tricks and Ayers and Wright laid at his door, he’s going to be so destroyed, it’s not even funny…

I’m laughing all the way to the Voting Booth….

Dale in Atlanta on May 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Look at the context. He is saying they do not need Indiana to win, in other words, they don’t mean shit.

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Yup keep reading the thread. I recognized my mistake. You guys are absolutely correct.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM

‘MPTEEN LOOK AT BLUE ON BLUE, and it’s gratis. I’d gladly pay for this. Life is good.

Entelechy on May 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Ace has the original clip from the movie…..
NOT DOCTORED.

ChrisM on May 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM

You can be sure that Georgie has his knives out too. If this was an Obamanut it is going to be on every Plasma/LCD screen in America. Just crossing my fingers that it wasn’t one of our ‘true-conservatives’ who did this.

Limerick on May 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM

The update makes a hell of a lot more sense. And Stephanopolis has a lot bigger platform to respond to this smear than the wankers at Kos or HuffPo.

The Obama campaign has finally smeared somebody too big for their ambitions.

And….the last hopes of Hillary’s giving Obama the veep, or of Hillary’s accepting the veep if the superdelegates insist on electoral suicide to appease the race pimps?

heh

funky chicken on May 2, 2008 at 12:59 PM

DEMS IN MIDST OF NASTY CIVIL WAR.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 12:59 PM

I’m guessing this is a little pee-on Obama supporter with a computer and a small amount of technical know-how. I would be shocked if an actually Obama campaign staffer did this. Its far too easily debunked.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM

And they despise George Stephanopolous for asking the questions he asked of Obama during the debate. This video was intended to bring both him and Hillary down.

Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Limerick, if it were closer to Nov…but the chances are much greater that it’s an Obama operative, given the squeeze they’re in to make it “over the top”.

Note, they’re ‘over the top’ now, but they don’t know it :)

Entelechy on May 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Now, what Kantor and director D.A Pennebaker claim is that Kantor said this:

Those people are shit — Oh, excuse me … shitting in the White House [at Perot’s numbers].

Notice that yesterday’s version stops before his alleged racial reference to Stephanopolous, too.
Now, the big question is this: if the version going around today is doctored, who doctored it and who started spreading it around the Internet? Cui bono? Who benefits from a dirty trick against Hillary in the days just before the election, especially one that plays against the white, working-class voters? Hint: Does Hope and Change sound familiar?

funky chicken on May 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM

This is THE dirtiest thing I have ever seen in politics.

I know one thing. Never taunt your opponent. Obama has made a very serious mistake here.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

The ‘C’ word, dirty tricks, anything…ANYTHING to get the Wright monster out of the news.
Lefty weenies.

shooter on May 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

Tried the link at Ace but I’m still having trouble with the audio. If I was on a jury I’d call foul on the prosecution.

Limerick on May 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

And….the last hopes of Hillary’s giving Obama the veep, or of Hillary’s accepting the veep if the superdelegates insist on electoral suicide to appease the race pimps?

heh

funky chicken on May 2, 2008 at 12:59 PM

If the superdelegates give it to Obama, you can count on Hillary doing everything she can to help the Republican candidate win.

Voters in remaining primary states:
Don’t support Operation Chaos.
Vote for the Republican who best represents your values.

Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 1:04 PM

It won’t have come from any campaign or established organization, though. No one would be that foolish.

You would think, but we’ve seen a lot of foolishness so far. The Ragin Cajun will be out for blood on this one.

Rick on May 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM

Owner just yanked the video.

Vizzini on May 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM

In the second clip you can even still hear Kantor saing “in the White House” at the end.

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Voters in remaining primary states:
Don’t support Operation Chaos.
Vote for the Republican who best represents your values.

Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 1:04 PM

That is Rush Limbaugh so vote HILLARY!!

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM

This is THE dirtiest thing I have ever seen in politics.

I know one thing. Never taunt your opponent. Obama has made a very serious mistake here.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

Yeah, assuming Barry’s group is the culprit, it wasn’t wise to step on a coiled up Carville. Plus, George has a soapbox.

a capella on May 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

The Communist elite [filthy oxymoron that it is] have always held the worker in contempt. While the Soviet Communists had their dachas on the Black Sea, the workers queued for luxuries like bread and milk. It’s the same here; look at the incomes of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and look at where they live.

The Communist elite will always hold the workers in contempt – always. Why? Because the Communist “Utopia” is an impossibility – except, of course – for the elite. “Utopia” must be achieved, on the backs of the workers-taxpayers. The worker-taxpayer is only a necessary evil.

OhEssYouCowboys on May 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

I officially retract my comment at ChrisM on May 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Ran the original clip through some sound processing software I have and the last whispered word is not the “N” word, it’s Texas.

DOCTORED.

ChrisM on May 2, 2008 at 1:13 PM

The ‘C’ word, dirty tricks, anything…ANYTHING to get the Wright monster out of the news.
Lefty weenies.

shooter on May 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

That IS the real issue now, isn’t it?

Getting “Rev” Wright out of the news cycle is PRIORITY #1 for Obama’s campaign, and you are correct that they will do ANYTHING to get the Wright monster out of the news.

Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 1:15 PM

a coiled up Carville
a capella

scary stuff.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 1:17 PM

No matter who did it, the Clinton team and supporters are going to be be out for some serious blood now. The gloves are off and Hillary is going to rally her people to beat Obama down Silicon Valley Fight Club style.

econavenger on May 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM

The RecList Kos diary about it that had over 1400 comments has been deleted.

MayBee on May 2, 2008 at 1:21 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on May 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

It does my heart good to know that other people “get it”.

There is a very real battle being waged for control of this country.

It is no coincidence that Communists (China, etc.) have given so much $ to the Clintons.

And since “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, the jihadists and the Communists work together. That is why the Saudis have given so much $ to the Clintons.

I submit Clinton, Obama, and McCain all have the same Socialist agenda. Clinton and McCain want to work through the current system. Obama wants to overthrow the current system. Obama doesn’t think we are “changing” fast enough.

Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 1:22 PM

Even if proved doctored, I stand by my original post:

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Liberals think of 9-5′ers as low-lifes.

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 1:25 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on May 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Hell yes!

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 1:27 PM

I hope it was doctored, oh man, this is getting good.
We are moving way beyond Orville…or this is the greatest popper

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 1:33 PM

The RecList Kos diary about it that had over 1400 comments has been deleted.

MayBee on May 2, 2008 at 1:21 PM

heh

funky chicken on May 2, 2008 at 1:34 PM

He said “s—-in’ in the WH.” The second one sounds like the same thing. He probably whispered, so he wouldn’t have to apologize to the camera dude again.

Uh oh! DUN DUN DUN!!

They make me sick.

Dubn8tr on May 2, 2008 at 1:38 PM

LOL…just thinking of the Disney/ABC lawyers being on this fella’s trail. There has to be an IP address of the original posting floating around a server someplace. I’d rather have the IRS after me then Disney.

Limerick on May 2, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Makes little difference if the audio was fabricated or not. Kantor still High-Fives like a simpy, wimpy girlie-boy.

pilamaye on May 2, 2008 at 1:46 PM

The RecList Kos diary about it that had over 1400 comments has been deleted.

MayBee on May 2, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Isn’t that just like the nutroots to delete anything incriminating rather than update and apologize? Pathetic.

Missy on May 2, 2008 at 1:46 PM

I hope it was doctored, oh man, this is getting good.
We are moving way beyond Orville…or this is the greatest popper

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Speaking of dirty tricks, would Carville et al be above doing it themselves as a clumsy doctoring effort with the knowledge it would be outed and the finger pointed towards the most obvious? Clintonian ethics would prevent that, right?

a capella on May 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM

a capella on May 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM

yeah, but the point is, it more then likely not a conservative,soooooo, sit back and enjoy.
It doesn’t matter who (odds are it is an Obama supporter, not saying Obama condoned it) done it, it was done.

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Actually it’s interesting that “white nigger” is an insult to whites. Think about it.

baldilocks on May 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

baldi, that’s what the lefties might call you now :)

Entelechy on May 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Hear that sound? It was my head exploding.

baldilocks on May 2, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Like I have mentioned before. This Dem primary has been as entertaining as a Scooter Libby commutation, day, after day, after day. Simply amazing, and quite enjoyable.

chief on May 2, 2008 at 2:16 PM

I don’t like giving support to Kantor, but considering that in a national campaign you depend heavily on the state organizations to do the grunt work, Kantor may have been giving his evaluation of the relative skills of the local campaign staff in Indiana, “who are S**T,” but look, we’re still doing okay. “They’re S**T, and we still win.”

RBMN on May 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM

Indianans? Aieeeeee!

Hoosiers, dude! Hoosiers!

rightwingprof on May 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Yawn. So a Jewish liberal Dem operative uses offensive racial language in describing both the voters of a white, largely rural state and some other political operatives or opponents.

Is there anyone alive who is surprised by this?

Jaibones on May 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM

This is THE dirtiest thing I have ever seen in politics.

Oh, come ON. Rathergate beats this all to pieces because (admittedly so FAR) there’s no MSM war drums beating to encourage the villlagers with pitchforks. You’d even have a hard time proving that they definitively CLEARED George Bush on the evening news instead of just said, “well, they appear to be forgeries…”

tree hugging sister on May 2, 2008 at 2:32 PM

He says “sh*tting” the first time. He never says “Those people are sh*t”. It’s quiet, but he definitely says “Those people are sh*tting”.

Someone smeared Kantor, and it’s deplorable.

FWIW, the newest Kos diary about now calls the faked tape Rovian. It’s always something.

MayBee on May 2, 2008 at 2:33 PM

Gracias, Ed.

baldilocks on May 2, 2008 at 2:34 PM

MayBee,

Kos may have folded to Kantor’s lawyers but it looks like Digg.com firmly stands behind the original smear. No correction needed until after the primary vote, ya Digg?

It could be that Kevin Rose is too drunk or hungover to bother retracting the story though, so I’m pretty sure that will make a good legal defense.

econavenger on May 2, 2008 at 2:35 PM

I feel bad that this got as much play as it did. Very sad when someone gets smeared unfairly.

Typhonsentra on May 2, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Mickey Kantor was actually a very moderate guy in the Clinton administration. He was a vocal supporter of NAFTA and would have no part in the hysterical antibusiness antigrowth opposition to NAFTA. As a US Trade Representative Kantor was respected by both parties and he didn’t engage in any class warfare or soak the rich hysteria. Had Al Gore actually been a moderate in the mode of Kantor, instead of veering to the loony left, Gore might have been elected to the presidency. So I think it is highly unlikely that Kantor would use such shameful language. I did a little research on Mr. Kantor and everything that I can find about the guy shows him to be very reasonable by Democratic Party standards.

Larraby on May 2, 2008 at 2:46 PM

the video is no longer available–youtube

maverick muse on May 2, 2008 at 2:48 PM

I sure hope we don’t find Team Barry’s fingerprints on this highly racially polarizing little smear job.

This is about to become a distraction from the real issues, I do believe.

MayBee on May 2, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Karl Rove, you magnificent bastard!

/had to be said…

dish on May 2, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Was that not the most un-natural looking high five ever?

BuzzCrutcher on May 2, 2008 at 3:01 PM

Here’s the original video. Sadly it still has to make the rounds on the urban news sites who are now linking to alternative video hosts since the original was made “private” for sharing only with friends.

http://urbanworldonline.com/clinton-advisor-calls-indiana-voters-white-niggers/

econavenger on May 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Here’s the original video. Sadly it still has to make the rounds on the urban news sites who are now linking to alternative video hosts since the original was made “private” for sharing only with friends.

http://urbanworldonline.com/clinton-advisor-calls-indiana-voters-white-niggers/

econavenger on May 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Why do you want to perpetuate this? You are assisting in the character assination of Kantor.

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Looks like it’s just been reposted without the subtitles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEuNIUb3Ges

I’d bet money this goes back to Obama, but they’ll never prove it.

cameo on May 2, 2008 at 3:14 PM

I hope you’re joking and not stupid. I’m trying to help point out where fires are still burning so it can be extinguished…in case you’re stupid.

econavenger on May 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Stephanopolis looks like he’s about 12. Carville looks the same LOL

funky chicken on May 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM

LOL and the Kos story has been thrown down the memory hole!

cameo on May 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM

FWIW, the newest Kos diary about now calls the faked tape Rovian. It’s always something.

MayBee on May 2, 2008 at 2:33 PM

We joke about Rove, and they take it serious…they really believe he is behind everything bad…Rove you…

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Digg finally put a “may not be accurate” disclaimer on their post, but their lead story is still the original smear with a dead YouTube link. No doubt that’s leading to the mirroring of the video.

econavenger on May 2, 2008 at 3:29 PM

“white ni**ers.”

Even if he had said it, what’s the big deal?

If it’s a good-enough epithet for an august gentleman like Senator Robert Byrd, it should be good enough for everybody.

Nothing to see here people: move along, move along.

misterpeasea on May 2, 2008 at 4:04 PM

These people had nothing to do with Clinton winning anyway. It was Ross Perot that gave him the election.

What’s with the black glove on scramble brains?

Hening on May 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM

operation.
chaos.
is.
working.

Black Adam on May 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Voters in remaining primary states:
Don’t support Operation Chaos.
Vote for the Republican who best represents your values.

Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Haha. Good one.

Even though Operation Chaos is helping the Democrat Party disintegrate before our eyes, and even though the Republican nominee is settled, we should not support Operation Chaos and should instead cast a completely meaningless vote in the Republican primary.

Great joke. Really.

misterpeasea on May 2, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Yannow…it’s very telling when conservative bloggers are more willing to dispute an obvious smear job against the hated Clintons than liberal ones.

I fear the Democratic Party is heading towards a total meltdown.

The Ugly American on May 2, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Isn’t that just like the nutroots to delete anything incriminating rather than update and apologize? Pathetic.

Missy on May 2, 2008 at 1:46 PM

It certainly is, but in this case, Kantor did ask that the matter be dropped, stating that even corrections give this thing exposure it shouldn’t get.

Esthier on May 2, 2008 at 4:21 PM

One thing it does remind me of is if weren’t for Perot, Clinton would have never been elected President.

roux on May 2, 2008 at 4:41 PM

I fear the Democratic Party is heading towards a total meltdown.

The Ugly American on May 2, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Heh, I know you don’t “fear” it; you’re really ecstatic (don’t wory; I won’t tell anyone :)

Entelechy on May 2, 2008 at 4:59 PM

I’m a Hoosier and lived in Indiana in ’92..

I turned 18 that year and voted for the first time ever..

Bush.

Chakra Hammer on May 2, 2008 at 5:09 PM

One thing it does remind me of is if weren’t for Perot, Clinton would have never been elected President.

roux on May 2, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Yep, I almost voted for Perot, as a first time voter since I didn;t trust Clinton(I smoked pot but didn’t inhale), and Bush(Read my lips line.. )

However, I voted for Bush anyhow..

Chakra Hammer on May 2, 2008 at 5:11 PM

It certainly is, but in this case, Kantor did ask that the matter be dropped, stating that even corrections give this thing exposure it shouldn’t get.

Esthier on May 2, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Thanks for that update. Totally understandable on Kantor’s part.

Those folks do have a history of shoving things down the memory hole, though, so even w/o Kantor’s insistence I wouldn’t have been surprised to see that thread disappear.

Missy on May 2, 2008 at 5:13 PM

The War Room clip also has the racial slur. The thing is, it may have been doctored by the movie makers back in 93 for whatever reason because Kantor’s lips are not appearing to form those words. The director is from Evanston which is very close to Indiana and perhaps he doesn’t like Hoosiers.

Buddahpundit on May 2, 2008 at 5:30 PM

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