Video: Clinton operative didn’t call Indianans “white n*****s” in 1992 Update III: Dirty trick? Update: Character witness

posted at 11:05 am on May 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Update IV: This is almost certainly a dirty trick aimed at Mickey Kantor and the Clinton campaign. Read all the way through the updates.

The Hillary Clinton campaign has run on a platform of 90′s nostalgia, but it won’t like this flashback to 1992. A video making the rounds today shows James Carville, George Stephanopolous, and Mickey Kantor conferring over polling results for Indiana. Kantor, who would become a member of Bill Clinton’s Cabinet and an adviser to Hillary now, offers a pungent view of Indiana voters that gives an idea of the contempt in which Democrats hold white, working-class Americans:

Kantor: Wait, wait, look at Indiania — 42-40. It doesn’t matter if we win. Those people are shit. Oh, excuse me … How would you like to be a worthless white n*****? [Note: See update III]

And suddenly, Crackerquiddick is on the other foot. This looks like it came from The WRoom, a documentary about the first Clinton presidential campaign, although I don’t recall the scene. Regardless, there can be little dispute about the people in the video being Carville, Stephanopolous, and Kantor.

What makes this worse is that Kantor gives that creepy, sotto voce whisper while saying this, knowing how bad it sounds but obviously unable to stop himself from saying it. Neither Carville nor Stephanopolous challenge Kantor, at least not in this clip. All three appear to agree that Indiana voters are worthless for Democrats even when they supported Clinton.

This isn’t quite as bad as Obama’s comments in San Francisco in a couple of respects. Hillary isn’t saying this, and it was 16 years ago, not six weeks ago. However, the disgust for the white working class comes through much more clearly in this video, and the fact that it comes from a former Clinton Cabinet official and current adviser makes it all the more compelling.

Indiana voters go to the polls in less than a week. Will they figure out which campaign despises them less?

Update: This looks like a winner in the netroots, too. Both Kos and DU have begun promoting it, and readers at TPM Election Center already have accused Josh and Greg of ignoring it for the minutes it’s been out on the Internet.

Just when we thought the identity politics meltdown had reached its zenith …

Update II: Via The Corner, the HuffPo has a denial of sorts from Kantor:

Mickey Kantor, who served as campaign chairman during Clinton’s 1992 run for the White House and says he has offered help and advice to Sen. Clinton, insisted that the tape was a fraud and that he was exploring legal steps against the individual who posted it online.

“I’ve never used that word [the n-word] in my entire life, ever, under any circumstance, ever,” an angry Kantor told The Huffington Post, citing his and his parent’s work fighting for civil rights. “I have listened to [the video] and so have you. You can’t tell what it is I’m saying in that second sentence, you can’t decipher that.”

As Byron York points out, that still leaves Kantor calling Hoosiers “shit” even when they support Democrats. It’s not exactly a helpful walkback, especially since his best effort is to claim that people can’t hear what he whispered to Stephanopolous. And when the volume gets raised, it certainly sounds as though the closed-caption text in the video gets the quote accurate.

Update III: The director of War Room says this is a fabrication, and that makes sense; even in 1993, this would have made headlines if it came off like this. Take another listen to the audio in the clip that started going around yesterday:

Now, what Kantor and director D.A Pennebaker claim is that Kantor said this:

Those people are shit — Oh, excuse me … shitting in the White House [at Perot's numbers].

Notice that yesterday’s version stops before his alleged racial reference to Stephanopolous, too.

Now, the big question is this: if the version going around today is doctored, who doctored it and who started spreading it around the Internet? Cui bono? Who benefits from a dirty trick against Hillary in the days just before the election, especially one that plays against the white, working-class voters? Hint: Does Hope and Change sound familiar?

It won’t have come from any campaign or established organization, though. No one would be that foolish.

Update V: Here’s the clip from War Room, thanks to Ed Driscoll. Go to about 4:30 in this YouTube, and see for yourself. The context is clearly the polling results and how bad they looked for the Bush campaign, referencing Texas specifically:

I understand the original video has been pulled by the owner. That tells us something.

Update (AP): For what it’s worth, KP e-mails to say that she worked for Kantor at the White House and knows he’d never use language like this. I believe it: We’re not talking about surveillance cam video here, where Kantor might not have known he was being recorded. Pennebaker had a lens right in his face. He’d have to be an abject moron to drop the N-bomb with the tape rolling.

I sure hope we don’t find Team Barry’s fingerprints on this highly racially polarizing little smear job.

Update (Ed): Go read Baldilock’s excellent post on the etymology of the racial epithet.


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I’ve always said the left was the party of racism.

Kahuna on May 2, 2008 at 11:10 AM

First of all, it shows the contempt for the blacks they so “adore”.
The liberals think all working people are ni**ers, white, black, and brown, and they are all there to do there bidding.
*
This is nothing new, and the mindset from these three show up in every liberal campaign.

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Damn. Shoulda saved this one for the general election.

funky chicken on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 AM

How DARE they. I live in Indiana and I am totally outraged. How dare they refer to me that way – I am NOT an Indianaian, I am a Hoosier!

Go Hill!
- Operation Chaos

sleepy-beans on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 AM

… that gives an idea of the contempt in which Democrats hold white, working-class Americans …

Exactly. Working class voters who support these elitist leftists are suckers. Message: they hate you.

Jaibones on May 2, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Oh yeah, the Obama camp has called in the heavy guns. This is GREAT, I love watching the Democrats expose THEMSELVES for the racist, ignorant commies that they are.

Maxx on May 2, 2008 at 11:13 AM

Look for Kantor to “step down” from the campaign by the end of the day.

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 11:14 AM

How dare Dan Quayle criticize Murphy Brown!

mymanpotsandpans on May 2, 2008 at 11:14 AM

Just another Democrat being what they really are.

.

GT on May 2, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Wonder if this will come up when George S. interviews Her Majesty. Probably not. This is exactly the opening Barry needs at this point in time.
What a treat this primary has been.

a capella on May 2, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Operation Chaos.

Someone had to say it.

ncc770 on May 2, 2008 at 11:15 AM

The Indiana and NC votes may get closer, but this isn’t a dealbreaker. This hurts her in the longterm, though.

Vizzini on May 2, 2008 at 11:16 AM

Maxx on May 2, 2008 at 11:13 AM

This can be used in the general – against Obama – and NO ONE can accuse us of dirty tricks because this was first uncovered by Obama.

I love it when a plan comes together.

talking_mouse on May 2, 2008 at 11:17 AM

The democrat party has done the biggest con of all, making the lower levels of society think that the rich elitists care about them.

jukin on May 2, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Ouch that is gonna a mark.

White n*****s is Indiana

I guess that explains Larry Bird for them..

Jesus crispy gun nuts in Pennsylvania

Is that what the Dems think of “their” people?

TroubledMonkey on May 2, 2008 at 11:19 AM

My dearest hubby and all the in-laws are Indiana born and bred, and ALL (save dearest hubby) have remained within a 50 mile radius of Indianapolis. Hoosiers are like that. They are also perversely proud and cranky about their Hoosier peculiarness, bless their little pointy heads. When IU had yet another Knight team going for an NCAA championship, the inevitable “WTF’s a HOOSIER?” discussion started on ESPN. The explanation was “a Hoosier has his car up on jacks in the front yard and frequently beats his wife, who is also his sister.” I asked my dear FIL about that. He immediately said,

“Oh, no! Those people are from Kentucky…”

This could be fun. Wish I got the Indy papers.

tree hugging sister on May 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM

ABC servers will be crashing from the nut-mail.

Limerick on May 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM

We Hoosiers are worthless white ni**ers. Not Indianans you stupid F*ck!

jones on May 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM

This is bad for George Snufalufagus also.

Those Dems are Riding Dirty aren’t they?

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U&feature=related

It does seem to be from The War Room.

It’s a little less than 5 minutes in.

Esthier on May 2, 2008 at 11:23 AM

I wonder if any of Carville’s adoring fans such as Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Larry King and everybody else at CNN will ask Carville the following question:” You stood there and heard your colleague call people from Indiana “S_ _ t” and you said nothing. Why didn’t you at least say that you didn’t approve of using words like “white N_ _ _ _ _ S?” If McCain had ever sat there and listened to garbage like this and not said anything, CNN and Olbermann and Alan Colmes would talk about for weeks.

Larraby on May 2, 2008 at 11:24 AM

This is bad for George Snufalufagus also.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM

I don’t know. He seems to just ignore the comment and doesn’t openly agree with it, which is what most people do when someone makes an idiotic statement.

Esthier on May 2, 2008 at 11:25 AM

Note to self:
Run out during lunch to buy popcorn before the store shelves are empty. Gonna need it this weekend and on in to Tuesday night!

Brat on May 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Our elected elite just cant help themselves can they? They have such respect for the people who vote them into office.

Both sided show such arrogance and contempt for those of us who employ them. After all some of us have been called bigots by the pro-amnesty crowd.

Right now, however I’ll enjoy the show the Dems are putting on.

anne on May 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM

I don’t know. He seems to just ignore the comment and doesn’t openly agree with it, which is what most people do when someone makes an idiotic statement.

Esthier on May 2, 2008 at 11:25 AM

Yeah, I got the feeling he thought it a stupid thing to say.

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 11:30 AM

In the liberal lexicon, n**gers are essentially working class people who don’t support the Democrat party.

highhopes on May 2, 2008 at 11:32 AM

How DARE they. I live in Indiana and I am totally outraged. How dare they refer to me that way – I am NOT an Indianaian, I am a Hoosier!

Go Hill!
- Operation Chaos

sleepy-beans on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 AM

KOOL-AID DRINKER

apoole on May 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM

You buried the lead Ed. This is being pushed by Drudge. Again, is Drudge is Obama’s Pocket?

AYNBLAND on May 2, 2008 at 11:35 AM

A worthless white n****r? Hi mister…that’s worthless white African American ,and don’t you forget it.

RMR on May 2, 2008 at 11:38 AM

This is bad for George Snufalufagus also.

Those Dems are Riding Dirty aren’t they?

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM

That was actually the first thing that I thought. How will this affect his and Carville’s TV gigs.

Harpoon on May 2, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Why the *** on the racial slur and not the bodily excretion?

BJ* on May 2, 2008 at 11:40 AM

Just another example of the Democrats clinging to their prejudice and distain for the working class.

Maxx on May 2, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Why the *** on the racial slur and not the bodily excretion?

BJ* on May 2, 2008 at 11:40 AM

Fair question. Totally a personal issue. I hate the N-word and won’t reproduce it if I can avoid it.

Ed Morrissey on May 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM

They like illegal immigrants best of all. They do exactly wat the left tells them.

saiga on May 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM

This can be used in the general – against Obama – and NO ONE can accuse us of dirty tricks because this was first uncovered by Obama.

I love it when a plan comes together.

talking_mouse on May 2, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Yeah, if Barry’s group is behind this, it can boomerang against the whole party. Short term gain against Hillary, although that is even a stretch, but a long term problem for donks in the general. Obama has already set the stage regarding small town America with his remarks in San Francisco. Sort of like an attorney opening up a new line of questioning for his client he really should not have done.

a capella on May 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM

I’d like to see them try and blame Bush for this one.

Geronimo on May 2, 2008 at 11:46 AM

If there’s an op-ed columnist trolling here then I have an idea for a title of your next column.

“The Democrat’s White Nigger Problem”

ninjapirate on May 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM

I thought Little Boy Barry was going to transcend politics and run a clean campaign.

I am really disillusioned.

Will Barry reject this kind of ad the way that McCain rejected the NC GOP ad?

Will the MSM follow Barry around and ask him if this is the kind of campaign he intends to run?

So sad.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Hmmm, the Democratic party, unity for whom, now? Anybody but Americans?

Kokonut on May 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Ruhroh. But the right are the racists.

ronsfi on May 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Is that what the Dems think of “their” people?

Yep.

Ellen on May 2, 2008 at 11:49 AM

5#17 storm Katrina.

ronsfi on May 2, 2008 at 11:50 AM

What defense could they possiby offer? That they were singing along to Elvis Costello’s song “Oliver’s Army”, but the volume on the stereo was turned down to the point that the mic couldn’t pick up the song playing in the background?

I don’t know why they even both with the masks these days, considering they can’t keep them from slipping clear to the ground.

Badger91 on May 2, 2008 at 11:50 AM

I think Clinton needs to go give a speech on race.

ninjapirate on May 2, 2008 at 11:51 AM

I guess “white n****rs” are almost as bad as the black variety.

baldilocks on May 2, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Geronimo: you are on to “it” here!

I can see it on Hannity & Colmes tonight, all the Leftists whining “we have to stop this infighting, because the Republican’s are going use this to attack us in the Fall Election”…and it is ALL BOOOOOSSSSHHHH! and Cheney and Rumsfield, yeah, that’s the ticket…

Dale in Atlanta on May 2, 2008 at 11:52 AM

How f’n STUPID do you have to be to say that in front of a camera???

MadisonConservative on May 2, 2008 at 11:54 AM

What else was cut from “The War Room” to make the Clintons look good?

daryl_herbert on May 2, 2008 at 11:54 AM

If anyone has an original copy of The War Room, watch it and see if that is really what he says. The lips look out of sync in these youtube versions and it’s easy to impersonate a whisper.

Just to be on the safe side.

Buddahpundit on May 2, 2008 at 11:54 AM

I guess “white n****rs” are almost as bad as the black variety.

baldilocks on May 2, 2008 at 11:52 AM

That’s what unity is all about. The donks are consistent.

a capella on May 2, 2008 at 11:55 AM

This is bad for George Snufalufagus also.

Those Dems are Riding Dirty aren’t they?

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought it was always Snufalufagus.

cntrlfrk on May 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Yeah, I can’t tell what he says when he starts whispering.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 11:57 AM

Hmmm, the Democratic party, unity for whom, now? Anybody but Americans?

Kokonut on May 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM

The fact that they say “Democratic” party instead of “Democrat” party should be your first clue…

They are Democratic Socialists, who want to unite the workers of the world.

But Marxism/Socialism/Communism isn’t really about “Liberation” for the common man, it’s about “Enslavement” for the common man. Power and wealth are controlled by the heads of the Communist party, and no one is allowed to rise without strict allegiance to the party.

If raising capital gains taxes is about “fairness”, then why don’t Obama, Clinton, and Edwards be “fair” and live in average homes (square footage the size of the average American home).

It’s not about “fairness” at all…it’s about power.

Please don’t be deceived by John McCain. His connections to George Soros should be a cause of great concern for all of us. John McCain is not a conservative. In my opinion, it appears that he is a Democratic Socialist in disguise.

Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 11:58 AM

context

satire

etc

LimeyGeek on May 2, 2008 at 11:59 AM

That’s gonna leave a mark!

awake on May 2, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Who does Kantor think he is? Robert Byrd?

I’d like to see them try and blame Bush for this one.

They’ll try. I don’t know how, but they will.

Bigfoot on May 2, 2008 at 12:01 PM

And this is different how?

The only people that disguise the Socialists are the MSM. Thinking Americans already KNOW Democrats are really Socialists.

SeniorD on May 2, 2008 at 12:05 PM

They will say that McCain’s right wing fascists put out this video.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 12:06 PM

They’ll try. I don’t know how, but they will.

Bigfoot on May 2, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Wasn’t that Rove in the background…that magnificent bast*rd…

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Wait. Is this part of Operation Chaos?

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Well well well…

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, it will be interesting to see the chants from Obama’s Disciples change from “Perfectly accurate” and “What’s the big deal” to “How could anyone even think that about working class whites!?!”

Lehosh on May 2, 2008 at 12:08 PM

If McCain is smart (yes, I know), he’ll make this the central message of his campaign: the Democrats claim to champion the little guy, but the truth of the matter is they despise the little guy. It doesn’t matter if it’s Obama or Clinton, they have utter contempt for a majority of the American people.

Jim-Rose on May 2, 2008 at 12:09 PM

This is the end. My only friend the end.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:13 PM

It doesn’t matter if it’s Obama or Clinton, they have utter contempt for a majority of the American people.

Jim-Rose on May 2, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Bingo…that’s it in a nutshell. The left looks down their collective noses at the average, every day American, even when they’re the ones who elect them to office.

When will “Joe Six Pack” learn that the Dems don’t give a rat’s a$$ about him?

flipflop on May 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Now is the time to fish out those famous McCain temper video, and we can call it even and start anew.

Sir Napsalot on May 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

GO TO 5:40 – KANTOR DOESN’T SAY “WHITE N***ER”! SOMEONE’S PLAYING DIRTY.

jtorres138 on May 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Wow. Just when you think this can’t get any better. The curtain continues to be drawn on the Democrat party.

chief on May 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Its a staffer, not her. Its not like Obama saying stuff like this himself.

It’ll be telling how much the media loves the Messiah though when they run with this one more then they ran with the “bitter religious people” stuff.

eski502 on May 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Anyone that bitterly clings onto the Democrat Party has to be ignorant of their real agenda of power first, people last.

kirkill on May 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Wow.

Dubn8tr on May 2, 2008 at 12:21 PM

They should run this video as many times as possible on every single TV and radio station in Indiana.

What amazes me is that Shillary is literally surrounding herself with the same lowlifes that Bubba Billy had as his posse when he was calling the shots. Mickey Kantor has not changed one ilk since the Clinton Administration. He was a weasel back then, he is a weasel now.

pilamaye on May 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Audacious desperation in the Obama camp ends hope for Presidency. Rev Wright fallout continues.

econavenger on May 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Director claims it is a “doctored” clip

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Pennebaker_Clip_Doctoered.html

ej_pez on May 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM

This is a preview of what we are going to face in the Fall.

Fake YouTubes by the dozens in the last few days before the election.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM

GO TO 5:40 – KANTOR DOESN’T SAY “WHITE N***ER”! SOMEONE’S PLAYING DIRTY.

jtorres138 on May 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Well, he still has this to deal with:

As Byron York points out, that still leaves Kantor calling Hoosiers “shit” even when they support Democrats. It’s not exactly a helpful walkback

a capella on May 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Yeah I don’t hear the the same thing on the you tube clip linked by jtorres138 on May 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM

ronsfi on May 2, 2008 at 12:28 PM

Its a staffer, not her. Its not like Obama saying stuff like this himself.

It’ll be telling how much the media loves the Messiah though when they run with this one more then they ran with the “bitter religious people” stuff.

eski502 on May 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM

I’m not so sure that flies. Rev Write is his preacher not him yet those comments have been nicely tied to Barry himself. Just as these comments will be tied to Clinton herself.

I completely agree with your prediction about how the media is going to run with this though.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Pennebaker (the director of the movie) makes a very good point, if Kantor said that in 1992 why didn’t one of the THOUSANDS of people who saw the movie say something about the slur in the past 16 years?

I am betting it is doctored.

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Look for the Obama dirty trickster to have connections to the company who overdubbed all the Godzilla movies.

econavenger on May 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM

a capella, but now the whole video is tainted. O cultists won’t touch it now.

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Well, he still has this to deal with:

As Byron York points out, that still leaves Kantor calling Hoosiers “shit” even when they support Democrats. It’s not exactly a helpful walkback
a capella on May 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM

The director of the movie says Kantor said, “They must be shi%%ing in the White House” in the original clip and that has been doctored.

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM

I can’t tell from the clip what he says.

ronsfi on May 2, 2008 at 12:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U

GO TO 5:40 – KANTOR DOESN’T SAY “WHITE N***ER”! SOMEONE’S PLAYING DIRTY.

jtorres138 on May 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Interesting. You can’t here what he says in the video you provided but it still does sound like “white ni**ers.” Its just more faint. Difficult to say. Either way though, the clip in this post provided by Ed was, without question, doctored.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:31 PM

The director of the movie says Kantor said, “They must be shi%%ing in the White House” in the original clip and that has been doctored.

EJDolbow on May 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Why would he whisper that?? That sounds like something he would want to say out loud and proudly?

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:33 PM

True or false it doesn’t matter. The troothers have it now.
Some Obamanut has his tail feathers in the air and crowing at his victory over Hillary.

Limerick on May 2, 2008 at 12:33 PM

faraway on May 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Yeah, the Politico link says the barnyard expletive aimed at Indiana folks was also doctored. Actually, this also keeps it in the news, since the MSM will be trying to attach a GOP tag to the doctoring. I hope that isn’t the case.

a capella on May 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Where’s my popcorn?

JustTruth101 on May 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM

But…but….but….the Democrats are the party of the PEOPLE. How can this be? How can they treat the COMMON MAN like dirt? Does this mean that Democratic leaders view themselves as some sort of ELITE?

Oh Hillary, say it ain’t so!

GarandFan on May 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Whatever he said must have been worse then saying “those people are shit.” Why would he say that loud and clear and then whisper something that was tame?

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:35 PM

As Byron York points out, that still leaves Kantor calling Hoosiers “shit” even when they support Democrats.

He may not be doing that either. According to the link previously posted by ej_pez, he actually says something like “they must be shi**ing in the White House.” This is a doctored video.

Gilda on May 2, 2008 at 12:35 PM

I imagine this is how Republican politicians feel about areas of black people – because they know they’re never going to win in those areas regardless. Although, it would disturb me if they used such language to describe them.

But of course, it’s politically correct to talk shit about poor white trash, while it’s racism to talk shit about poor black trash.

Seixon on May 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM

I got agree with the director of the movie in question.

It sounds like he’s saying:

“Those people are shitting-oh excuse me-in the white house. How would you like to be in the White House – Texas…?”
And then he goes on to say, “Look at Texas.”

It does sound like he’s saying that they’re shitting themselves in the White House, and how would you like to be in the White House when they lose Texas.

This is the problem: If you mumble, and aren’t clear, and someone else puts up words that say something different than what you’re saying, you get the Louie Louie Effect :P

apollyonbob on May 2, 2008 at 12:40 PM

“I’ve never used that word [the n-word] in my entire life, ever, under any circumstance, ever,” an angry Kantor told The Huffington Post, citing his and his parent’s work fighting for civil rights.”

A “civil rights” background in no way negates a nasty, dirty, hypocritical chauvinism against blue collar whites who were after all, given the nature of the argument, seen often seen by such elitist liberals as the white rural stupid racist enemy. The Southerner in me hears a Yankee. The Hoosier in me, (my teen years were spent in Terre Haute) hears an Easterner.

Nyog_of_the_Bog on May 2, 2008 at 12:40 PM

He may not be doing that either. According to the link previously posted by ej_pez, he actually says something like “they must be shi**ing in the White House.” This is a doctored video.

Gilda on May 2, 2008 at 12:35 PM

Gilda, that link is only making reference to the second line which, doctorred, sounds like he whispers “how would you like to be a white ni**er?”
The line that comes before that, though, is clear in both videos. He says, referencing people from Indiana, “those people are shit.” Nor does he deny having said that.

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM

To clarify:
I really don’t think the movie was “doctored” in the sense of somehow tricky editing was used to make him say something he didn’t. I think they’re just putting up captions that are tricking people into thinking he’s saying something he didn’t – and could be the person who wrote them really thought that’s what he was saying.

apollyonbob on May 2, 2008 at 12:42 PM

YouTube just doesn’t have the quality to tell. We need the DVD. Wonder what subtitles/CC say.

exception on May 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Zetterson on May 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM

It DOES deal with the shit line:

“What he says is he’s surprised Perot’s numbers are holding,” said Pennebaker in a brief phone interview. “He says they must be shi**ing in the White House.”

apollyonbob on May 2, 2008 at 12:43 PM

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