Moulitsas wants his candidates to appear on MS-NBC and to boycott Fox.

I thought the whole idea of sitting before the cameras was to have other people see you….

“I wonder if any candidates will be going to Yearly Kos–”

How about this for a theme song at Yearly Kos Moulitsas:

Slip-sliding away, slip-sliding awaaaaaaaayaaa……

Perhaps the reason that Hillary (and to a much lesser extent, Obama) decided to get FOXy was that she figured that since McCain is disliked by most conservatives that she could pick up a significant number of non-lefty voters by appearing on the ‘Faux Bushitler network’?

Other than her answer on sanctuary cities, from what I’ve heard (I didn’t watch) she talked somewhat to the ‘right’ of McCain.

What is more, the long-term trend line does show CNN and MSNBC substantially cutting into Fox’s lead over the past year. See http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/05/01/cable-news-ratings-through-wednesday-april-30/3592. Given that bigwig Democrats have boycotted Fox until very recently, and given that the “nutroots” has also encouraged liberal viewers not to tune into Fox, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume the boycott had something to do with it.

Outlander on May 2, 2008 at 1:05 PM

I can’t speak for everyone, but personally I’ve more or less stopped watching Fox news (and TV news in general) unless there’s a special event. O’Reilly’s program keeps getting more and more tabloid filler. I have exactly zero interest in every one of his weekly segments (other than Dennis Miller). I’ve never liked Hannity and Colmes much – neither one would ever concede a point to the other, so to me it’s more pointless bickering and really mindless spin than it is any sort of debate or meaningful discussion. Don’t even get me started on the Missing White Girls Show that finished out the prime-time segment.

While the interviews might appear stronger than normal this is only because the other stations do such a terrible job.

Recently, Wallace was on Fox and Friends, the morning show, bitching that they needed to stop showing so much of the Wright stuff, because he didn’t think it was fair!

O’Reilly, even interjected (because of law and order issues (I think) with Clinton with a helpfull hint on why she didn’t support crackdowns on sanctuary cities.

“Democrats are being idiotic by going on that network.”

Wow, Markkkos is always so profound and well-spoken! How deep.

If the Left really cared about spreading their message across America, they would be all over FOX News…
Seixon on May 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM

Right, but as you know, the toddlers in Kos’ sandbox don’t want to debate the right. They want to shut it down.

If leftists take the WH, in addition to Congress, they’ll resurrect a “Fairness Doctrine” that would make Stalin proud. USSC would be our last hope.

Netroots advocates want to “delegitimize” Fox News, but that’s a battle they lost years ago. Fox gets its legitimacy from its viewers, and it has more than CNN and far, far more than netroots favorite MS-NBC. Their boycott has done nothing to dent Fox’s lead.

I respectfully disagree. O’Reilly scored his best numbers of 2008, by far, when he aired the Hillary Clinton interview. See: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/05/01/oreilly-vs-olbermann-through-wednesday-april-30/3581

What is more, the long-term trend line does show CNN and MSNBC substantially cutting into Fox’s lead over the past year. See http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/05/01/cable-news-ratings-through-wednesday-april-30/3592. Given that bigwig Democrats have boycotted Fox until very recently, and given that the “nutroots” has also encouraged liberal viewers not to tune into Fox, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume the boycott had something to do with it.

If the Left really cared about spreading their message across America, they would be all over FOX News trying to convince the “stupid poor white folk” that the Republicans don’t have their best interests at heart. Yet instead, they treat FOX like the plague and never give their message a shot with those who they pretend to care about.

Which is kind of the point – the Left pretends to care about poor white people and black people. It’s all a game to get votes and power, they don’t really give a damn. If they did, they’d be on FOX every second they could to try and convince those uninsured poor white folks that the Democrats have a better plan for them.

so I’m cheap like you!

disco on May 2, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Cheap? Moi? Well…..yeah!

I only use OTA HD as well. With the sub-channels I actually get quite a bit of variety, including a dedicated weather channel, so I’m cheap like you! (there aren’t many like us though)

I don’t think one can think clearly without considering a breadth of opinion. But Kos and Huffpo so seldom are any help here since they seldom contain any reasoning but are cesspools of opinions and emotions.
snaggletoothie on May 2, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Agreed about Kos and Huffpo. When I was thinking of more reasonable alternatives to HotAir, I was thinking of the MSM. It’s good to read the NYT and try to understand the ideas from their perspective before struggling to express what is wrong about their ideas. And if you are serious about ideas, it is a struggle to be clear with what’s wrong about them. Remember for all their faults, NYT’s editors and reporters aren’t stupid.

Plus, I’d venture to guess Fox News is actually the most fair Network on the TV. Tough on both sides and asking tough questions of everyone. And good on them for it.

mjk on May 2, 2008 at 12:13 PM

The problem, with both sides of the spectrum, is that they expect the word ‘fair’ to mean ‘fair to their side’ from their personal perspective. If Fox is taking shots from both the left and right, it seems to me they’re just about perfectly placed.

TheBigOldDog on May 2, 2008 at 12:07 PM

You got that exactly right, but you left out attractive women which seem to be B.O.’s biggest weakness. I hesitate to describe Hillery in those terms, but she did look better in that interview than she has in a while…

Truth be told – Fox is just another liberal network with a Fake-Conservative-Clothing.

Then why were they the ones who focused on the “fauxtography” scandal during the Lebanon-Israeli thing a couple years ago? How about Rev. Wright? If FoxNews hadn’t broadcast these issues, they never would have seen the light of day on anything but a bunch of websites. CNN and the others only came because FoxNews was winning.

Why did Bill Clinton freak out so much with Chris Wallace? Because FoxNews asks really hard questions, not the softball crap every other network does.

Just because their type of “conservatism” doesn’t match yours, doesn’t mean they’re not conservative.

Plus, I’d venture to guess Fox News is actually the most fair Network on the TV. Tough on both sides and asking tough questions of everyone. And good on them for it.

Why is it that the people with the most extreme positions of both parties consider themselves “the base”
crosspatch on May 2, 2008 at 11:14 AM

Because they are. They are the people who volunteer. They are the people who donate. They are the people who get out the vote.

It does show that it was a long interview, though. I respect Sen. Clinton for that.

daryl_herbert on May 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Why? If I were an arch-lib the person I would fear the least is Bill O’Reilly. He has a history of rolling-over for everybody from Michael Moore to Rosie O’Donnell. Any big-time Lib who fears O’Reilly isn’t paying attention. He only beats up on nobodies who can’t help his career.