I posted this earlier on another link but it’s related…..

As to the comments about the “theory” Blacks will stay home, it is just that, a theory. And on this theory you would let Hillary get the nomination because then you think McCain could win because said Blacks will stay home? Wow!
Talk about rolling the dice with the devil.

The Clinton’s will eat your lunch if you let them get close. Where have you been these last 20 years? If Obama is as clueless as everyone says he is, help him get the nomination. Rush is completely out of his mind. Everything that is happening would have happened on its own–Hillary would never quit–the only difference is Obama would have a bigger lead and would be certain of the nomination. Now its not certain and you are counting on “Watts II” if she gets the nod to get McCain elected. And boy there’s campaign strategy to get back the black vote–be part of a dissing-campaign to get blacks to burn down their neighborhoods.
Trust me, if Obama gets the shaft the media et al will blame it on the repubs and it will stick. The cross over voting instigated by Rush will be the central focus. He will have gamed the system and he will rue the day.

I said it before and I’ll say it again, Rush has no problems with Hillary getting elected–its good for his business. That’s why he’s got folks crossing over.

The data here goes much more in depth than the National Journal

…which is a kinder way of saying that it makes the NJ data look like the B.S. it is. Thanks for pointing out this analysis, Ed, in spite of the convenient Obama’s-the-liberalest myth it shatters.

. . . The only hope McCain has is Obama gets the nod while the Clinton’s secretly undermine him still hoping for 2012.

I would not be surprised to find that Rush wants Hillary to get elected despite any denials to the contrary. He does not like McCain and Hillary would be great for business.

patrick neid on May 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Rush is a realist; I think his analysis is correct: the longer the Hatfields and the McCoys tear each other up, the better the chances that the Dems will be so divided by September that many will stay home or vote for McCain.

Rush also points out, often, that his ratings do not depend on who’s in office.

If Obambi is denied the nomination, you’ll have riots in the streets. The rabble rousers would love the excuse. Missus Slick’s fans might grudgingly line up for Obambi, but an awful lot of folks are so turned off by him already; they’ll vote for McCain or stay home in a pique.

If the Missus wins the nomination, you’re assuming she can beat McCain. But Mister Slick never got a majority of the popular vote, and she’s a lot less popular. Even my 94-year-old mother, who’s never voted for a Republican in her life, is saying McCain is the best of the lot.

Let Operation Chaos continue!

Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 9:26 AM

I want whatever you’re smoking.

Everything you mentioned is just standard political fluff. Hillary Clinton would have stayed in the primaries had she lost every one. She is not quitting under any circumstances. She is running for herself and more importantly as redemption for Bill’s legacy. Once she is elected his “blue dress” basically disappears as a footnote overwhelmed by the first husband and wife presidents.

What Rush and folks like you are doing is giving her the chance of actually getting the nomination.

As to the canard that the Dems are at each others throats that is laughable. Having had the White House only 12 of the last 40 years, the Dems, editorial pages, magazines, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, Hollywood and virtually everything not repub will eagerly join together and vote. This will happen even if there is blood in the streets at the convention.

The only hope McCain has is Obama gets the nod while the Clinton’s secretly undermine him still hoping for 2012.

I would not be surprised to find that Rush wants Hillary to get elected despite any denials to the contrary. He does not like McCain and Hillary would be great for business.

And, they aren’t Liberals, they are Socialists. And they are Socialists of the worst kind – the rich, hypocritical kind. The only thing more vile than an American Socialist, is a rich, American Socialist.

Call ‘em what they are – rich, American Socialists.

Not American …

Esthier on May 2, 2008 at 10:22 AM

I will not make any predictions about the overall winner, but expect both Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul to do well next Tuesday in NC.

Go ahead and flame away, but there are a lot of NC voters who are not happy with John McCain.

In my opinion, only good, not harm, can come from McCain performing poorly in the NC primary. He needs a wake-up call.

As I said yesterday, the general election is when you “suck it up” and vote for the party’s nominee. Primaries are when you vote for the candidate who best represents your values. (Which is why I don’t agree with Operation Chaos…if I had told you 8 years ago that you would be voting for Hillary Clinton in 2008, you would have laughed at me)

Donate and contribute to the CONSERVATIVE cause, which has yet to be addressed by any of the three remaining liberals.

maverick muse on May 2, 2008 at 9:37 AM

Donate and contribute to the CONSERVATIVE cause.

As you noticed, foreign policy is not in a dimension captured by DW-NOMINATE. While we probably would be correct in thinking we could predict foreign relations votes from minimum wage votes, such voting would only capture foreign policy preferences after the foreign policy has already been framed by ideology and party. But a president makes foreign choices before they have been framed by ideology and party constructs. How would Hilary and Obama make foreign policy decisions? We have much more direct information about their foreign policy ideas than how their voting on minimum wage laws would structure their foreign policy decisions. Hilary has taken a more practical and less naive approach in her foreign policy statements than Obama has. A Hilary presidency would be much more likely to keep us safe than would an Obama presidency. We shouldn’t let the DW-NOMINATE measures obscure that. And of course McCain would be better still.

If Maverick loses the NC primary, we may have some leverage to do so.

Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 9:26 AM

We’re not going to replace him with Huck.

Obama wouldn’t do anything unless Ahmadinejad or some other rogue world leader personally insulted or made a fool out of him

Comrade B.H. Obama is more likely to nuke the Blogosphere since it has been making a fool of him for some time.

As for Comrade H.R. Clinton:

With Dem control of both Houses they will rewrite any and all laws as they see fit. Taxes will be first

Individual achievement will be outlawed in favor of Über-egalitarianism (for the nomenklatura) and Socialism WILL reign supreme in this country for quite some time.

Very few politicians will have the fortitude to stand up and be counted. Rush is an idiot for even allowing the Clinton’s a chance at returning to the White House. He is not tearing the Dems apart, he is in fact unifying them for the general election.

patrick neid on May 2, 2008 at 9:04 AM

Do they look unified to you? The ’superdelegates’ are edging toward Obambi, because they have calculated that (a) he’s ahead, and likely to stay ahead; and (b) as long as he’s even marginally ahead, they can’t deny him the nomination and risk mayhem at Denver and in the inner cities across the nation. But as long as Missus Slick can hang on, clawing and scratching at Obambi, the longer the outcome remains in doubt. Now the feminists and the Floridians are threatening to tear apart the convention.

Operation Chaos has more to do with prolonging the Democratic primary, so that both candidates have to spend time out liberaling each other in order to win the nomination. The longer this goes on, the harder it will be for whoever wins, to work their way back to the center for the general election.

The longer this goes on, the more embittered will be the supporters of whoever loses. Making them less likely to get out in support of the eventual winner.

The longer this goes on, the more money both sides will spend, leaving less money for the general election.

MarkTheGreat on May 2, 2008 at 8:56 AM

Remember the old doggerel,

There once were two cats of Kilkenny;
Each thought there was one cat too many;
So they fought and they fit,
And they scratched and they bit,
Till excepting their nails
And the tips of their tails,
Instead of two cats there weren’t any!

That’s what we want!

(Hey Mark, are you the real Great One?)

The partisan divide is much more about real ideology and philosophy than about electoral politics, which is why politics has become so passionate. Among the three candidates running for President, only one of them has a track record of working to fix that

Fix what, again? This all sounds good to me. Real ideological and philosophical differences as opposed to electoral politics. Passionate politics.

And abandoning your own party to go along with the other party is not “fixing.” It’s “capitulating.”

Bipartisanship is not only a myth, it would be dangerous if it actually occured. A united gummint, passing reams of new laws? Meddling in every conceivable area of human activity? I mean, even more than now.

Global warming, immigration, taxes, spending, I think Bush has pretty much fallen over the edge and into the liberal cavern.

right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 9:30 AM

You nailed that one. Into the progressive abyss Bush leads and McCain follows.

If Maverick loses the NC primary, we may have some leverage to do so.–Red Pill at 9:26 AM

Loses the GOP primary in NC?!

Regardless of what McCain wins/loses, now is the time to make demands. Leverage is being vocal, front and center. The liberals are not the only members of society who can practice activism. Conservatives may eschew activism, but if that is what is required for survival, then to literary and vocal arms. All the while, hold tight to your pocket book when the GOP writes and phones since money speaks louder than words to their ears. Donate and contribute to the CONSERVATIVE cause, which has yet to be addressed by any of the three remaining liberals.

Buy Danish on May 2, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Maybe ‘liberal’, ‘conservative’, and ‘whacko’.

President Bush is on the conservative edge of his Party

Global warming, immigration, taxes, spending, I think Bush has pretty much fallen over the edge and into the liberal cavern.

WHY ARE CONSERVATIVE MOUTHPIECES NOT REQUIRING MCCAIN TO SUBMIT HIS SWORN AFFIDAVIT TO NOT LEGALIZE ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Where is the testicular fortitude of Conservative radio hosts, journalists and bloggers to corner McCain prior to lending support? THIS IS THE TIME.

maverick muse on May 2, 2008 at 9:23 AM

If Maverick loses the NC primary, we may have some leverage to do so.

Heck, I propose that we ditch the term moderate and change the terminology to these 3 categories: liberal, conservative, and idiot

Buy Danish on May 2, 2008 at 9:01 AM

You’re on to something, ditching the term. Granted, though we come in all shapes and sizes, it may be yet in practice McCain’s bipartisanship: he’s liberal-progressive-RINO vs. conservative.

Voters know what McCain is. Even McCain admitted. Remember McCain’s stuttering Freudian slip, describing himself as a liberal, oops.

So the point remains, WHY ARE CONSERVATIVE MOUTHPIECES NOT REQUIRING MCCAIN TO SUBMIT HIS SWORN AFFIDAVIT TO NOT LEGALIZE ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Where is the testicular fortitude of Conservative radio hosts, journalists and bloggers to corner McCain prior to lending support? THIS IS THE TIME.

Senator McCain is in the left wing of the Republican Party

Well golly! Ya’ don’t say…

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

/sarc