Voter to McCain: Did you call your wife a c*nt? Update: Questioner signed in as HuffPo contributor
posted at 9:01 pm on May 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Oh, the screeching, the wailing, the wall-punching outrage if a conservative had put a question this obnoxious to a Democrat. HuffPo, bless its withered heart, describes our interrogator as a “Baptist minister” but read further into their blockquote and you’ll see he’s a former campaign worker for Joe Biden. The peg here is an anecdote from lefty journo Cliff Schechter’s book, “The Real McCain,” alleging that Maverick once dropped this term of non-endearment on his wife in front of reporters. The story’s been circulating in nutroots circles for months, decked out in the trappings of a “legitimate” campaign issue to disguise its real purpose. They do the same thing when outing closeted gay Republicans, framing it as a question of hypocrisy when what they’re really after is the salacious public humiliation that comes with any sex scandal. Same with this: They’re hot to show that Maverick’s a prick and a bad husband, but rather than just circulate the story with that explicit goal, they adorn it with the stupid “substantive” pretext that it speaks to McCain’s temper, as if him acting boorishly towards his wife means he might fly off the handle one night as president and push the button. It’s their way of flattering their own supposed progressive virtue, just like when they pronounced themselves starved for policy questions after the 21st debate of the campaign.
The irony? If they wanted an insight into McCain’s temper, they got one. Click the image to watch and see if any buttons are pushed.
Update: Further to the point that if the ideological roles were reversed here the left would be having itself a conniption, imagine if the questioner had been affiliated with, say, Instapundit or MichelleMalkin.com.
In an interview with IowaPolitics.com, Parrish said his intentions were simple in posing the question to McCain. The former Joe Biden campaign worker stressed he is very concerned about the Republican presidential nominee’s temperament.
“We have a man whose temper can get the best of him,” Parrish said. “What I am worried about is his temper. Our country is in a serious crisis. This election is the most significant one since 1860. It appears America is asleep — so I stood up and asked the question.”
Parrish signed in as a Huffington Post contributor and was taking pictures at the town hall meeting.
Note that HuffPo itself excerpts portions of this story from Iowa Politics — and conspicuously leaves off just before the paragraph where IP identifies the questioner’s affiliation.
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Handled very well
malkinmania on May 1, 2008 at 9:05 PM
By the way, HuffPo commenters are treating the claim as a fact.
That’s just one example. So for future reference, HuffPo commenters now consider the claim as a substantiated, proven fact that can be used against McCain.
amerpundit on May 1, 2008 at 9:05 PM
It’s gonna be a long, ugly summer, watching them lose the White House again.
Hannibal Smith on May 1, 2008 at 9:06 PM
It’s come to this.
LtE126 on May 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM
I wondered when they’d go there, nutroots were pushing this story a few weeks ago.
doubleplusundead on May 1, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Rinnnnnnnggggggggggggggggg….
‘IRS’
‘Rigga-fratta-ragga-riggga gimme the director’
Limerick on May 1, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Hey, some “True Conservatives” posted this allegation right here on hotair a few times too.
funky chicken on May 1, 2008 at 9:13 PM
So does that mean he plagiarized the question from someone else?
radjah shelduck on May 1, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Har, as MM loves to snort….
Trying to push buttons on a man who withstood five years of bone-breaking torture, two in solitary, by hardboiled NVA Commies trying to push his buttons?
Mojamaiko on May 1, 2008 at 9:15 PM
“Bububu he didna answer the question.!”
Typhonsentra on May 1, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Next the nutroots will go after any Republican who has noticed that Obama is black.
Then in a month or two, they’ll go after any Republican who has not noticed that Obama is black.
Meanwhile, the Democrats will be uttering all manner of racist slurs against every race known to man.
landlines on May 1, 2008 at 9:20 PM
be nice :-)
funky chicken on May 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM
What a lowlife, lame, louse-ridden loser.
profitsbeard on May 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM
The problem with someone with a temper is the potential for him to lose self-control. Now, McCain is obviously aware that people are constantly baiting him to lose his temper, and he seems to always stay stoically calm. This, to me, makes the temper charge a non-issue. He clearly has tremendous self control, even if he is prone to fiery anger from time to time.
I for one like someone who can get angry, and wouldn’t trust someone who was emotionless. Righteous anger is a virtue, not a vice.
Nessuno on May 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM
As Hillary and Obama do, they don’t answer what has validity to it. Obviously he skipped to the next question with no remark. Also, he’s known for his temper. Give me a break.
Roebuck on May 1, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Now that can’t say McCain stacks his audience with only friendlies.
ordi on May 1, 2008 at 9:22 PM
How classless can the left get? They continue to surprise, but of course it’s their right to exercise free speech, no matter how insanely stupid the words may be.
McCain handled that very well. I don’t agree with many of his policies but I have the utmost respect for his ability to handle idiots like this nutjob. Too bad we don’t have video showing the moron that asked the question.
cannonball on May 1, 2008 at 9:23 PM
what an idiot
trailortrash on May 1, 2008 at 9:23 PM
This is obviously the works of The Prince of Darkness. Otherwise known as Karl Rove, that Magnificent Bastard!
Weebork on May 1, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Scum of the earth with the menality the defines the left.
Promote this idiot to a speaker in Denver.
Rovin on May 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Michelle Aunt Esther seems to fit that term a bit more precisely.
And where are the nutbag nutroots to ask Hillary if she ever used the phrase…
EFFING JEW BAST*RD!
I mean, that’s a proven fact that has been a story for so long now…and all that…
Leftism is the province of adolescents. Just look around…
benrand on May 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM
You’re suggesting that a question like that has validity to it? If the allegation were true, using the “c-word” makes someone less qualified to be President? Really?
Hollowpoint on May 1, 2008 at 9:29 PM
I’m getting a “we’re sorry this video is no longer available” message.
Buy Danish on May 1, 2008 at 9:31 PM
If there’s a serious belief that he did say something like this, then the questioner would have been better served by phrasing the question as “did you refer to your wife by a profane term for the vagina on (insert date & setting) or any other time?”
Dropping an ugly word like that in a public setting where there were likely children present in a question that made no sense was as nasty as it was pointless. Looking at the commentary on firedoglake which posted this video made me ill. Thankfully, McCain brushed this off calmly instead of performing an internal examination on the questioner with the microphone.
Jill1066 on May 1, 2008 at 9:34 PM
I used to have a litany of problems with embedded YouTube videos, so these days I just click them to go to the site and watch.
OneGyT on May 1, 2008 at 9:35 PM
He handled very well and was not rude to the questioner
KBird on May 1, 2008 at 9:37 PM
It’s working now. Must have been a supply vs. demand problem.
Buy Danish on May 1, 2008 at 9:38 PM
THe sad thing is the commentors at the Puffington Host and FDL thought the question was courageous and that McCain (they are playing with odd permutations of his name) ducked the question thus admitting to it…
idiots breed true.
billhedrick on May 1, 2008 at 9:39 PM
He handled it well. Kudos Sir.
carbon_footprint on May 1, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Just one more stupid question from the rotting scum at the bottom of the barrel known as the Dim party. Yeah, it’s gonna be a long summer and fall.
thekingtut on May 1, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Not one HuffPo poster 30 commenets deep into that thread thought the question was in poor taste. the comments ranged from ‘he didn’t answer the question” as ameripundit noted above to ‘why was the ‘pastor’ taken into custody, questioned and released?’. When a person asks such a derogatory and unusual question of a sitting US Senator, I think reasonable people would want to immediately know if that person was armed, deranged or a threat to the Senator, regardless of the Senator’s political affiliation.
Is differentiating between Liberals and Conservatives really as easy as saying Liberals generally are uncouth louts with no manners and Conservatives generally believe in polite civil discourse and treating people with some degree of respect?
DrW on May 1, 2008 at 9:44 PM
I can see it now… the next Hillary townhall meeting, “Is it true you told Bill to put his (expletive) up?”
OneGyT on May 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Every time I hear THAT word, I feel the urge to do something violent against the person who says THAT word. I thought McCain would let his infamous temper loose on that jerk. He should have.
mram on May 1, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Tasteless.
I love how the tool couched his question as “pertaining to mental health.” Ha. How unbalanced do you have to be to stand up in a room full of strangers and drop the c-word?
VolMagic on May 1, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Woulda been funnier if he’d said:
Well okay, but it was in the throws of passion.
TheSitRep on May 1, 2008 at 10:07 PM
AND SO IT BEGINS,
How about Ted Nugent handle these clowns,if it’s true
so what,what a couple say to each other is none of our
business,period!
However Democrats use that kind of Language speaking to
Republican’s,this is the best they can do!
I’ve said this a few times,the Lefty Liberal MSM smear
machine is trying to make John McCain out to be Captain
Queeg from “The Caine Mutiny!
canopfor on May 1, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Yeah, the first amendment was a pretty stupid idea. No citizen, especially those with “unusual” questions, should be able to ask an elected official about legitimate news items.
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I’d bet next months salary that you would not complain about someone asking Senators Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton a similarly ridiculous question.
The Race Card on May 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Ever wonder if, in the heat of anger, Obama ever calls Michele a crack ho?
Zelsdorf Ragshaft on May 1, 2008 at 10:20 PM
what if a republican asked
OsamaObam, “Is it true you asked the reporter to let you finish your waffle?” Racist Republican, they are being stereo typical asking a black man about waffles, the MSM would go bizerk, Olby would feature on his Worse Show Ever…… IDIOTScuster on May 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM
If the idiotic questioner was so obsessively worried about McCain’s temper, he has no worries now, right? McCain handled it with a lot of class.
jgapinoy on May 1, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Read some of the comments at firedoglake and huffington. Doesn’t it scare you that many of these clearly insane people will possibly cancel out your vote? Another example of the downside to democracy- sensible people AND idiots get to vote. Go figure.
Scary stuff.
TheBlueSite on May 1, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Are HA commenters invited to your middle-school graduation ceremony?
The Race Card on May 1, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Some of them are even praising the guy for his “courage”.
You would lose that bet with me.
surrounded on May 1, 2008 at 10:35 PM
That guy has to thank God, Gaia, or some other fictional character that I was not standing beside him. I would have “done him right” as us bitter, gun totin’ race hatin’ppl do.
lsutiger on May 1, 2008 at 10:35 PM
These turds are completely reprehensible!
Big John on May 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM
And why would Obama call his wife that? Pretty silly thing to wonder.
surrounded on May 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM
These Dems are pathetic — you as a party and as a group really need to start looking inside of you to see if there is anything there.
This soulless goof that asked that question does have mental health issues — take your meds sir.
Richard Romano on May 1, 2008 at 10:37 PM
McCain handled it well. It was a stupid question to ask, but he can ask it if he likes.
I like how the commenters at HuffPo are acting like the guy was dragged out by his feet and beaten. It’s a campaign event, not a park bench. If someone is there with the obvious intent of causing trouble I’d fully expect them to be removed. Same goes for an Obama of Clinton event.
BadgerHawk on May 1, 2008 at 10:40 PM
His anger seems reserved for Conservatives in the Senate. THAT is the problem with his temper, he uses it against the good guys.
EJDolbow on May 1, 2008 at 10:40 PM
He was obviously a plant, and the fact that he is a “baptist minister” was evidently looked upon as some sort of stroke of genius by whoever planted him. How desperate is it gonna get? Is there gonna be a shred of dignity left anywhere by the election time? Khood Lord.
surrounded on May 1, 2008 at 10:41 PM
The difference is, no conservative with any civility would ask such a question.
Big John on May 1, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Major Ditto Sir!
lsutiger on May 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Tom Maguire wants to know why they think he is a Baptist minister.
Sue on May 1, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Is this a new variation of “When did you stop beating your wife?”?
newton on May 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM
It would seem so….how embarrassing for the poor guy to have the whole thing turn to **** and fall back on him…his poor mom…hope he doesnt kiss her with that mouth.
surrounded on May 1, 2008 at 10:55 PM
If the nutroots honestly think this video is going to *help* their candidates…then they are seriously delusional.
This guy is a minister?
From where…the Universal Life Church?
The Ugly American on May 1, 2008 at 11:02 PM
I can’t speak for anyone else here, but you’d certainly lose that bet with me.
I think most people would agree that this sort of question is severely-inappropriate for an open political forum.
The Ugly American on May 1, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Weren’t we just arguing weeks ago about the legitimacy of questioning Chelsea on the Monica thing? Don’t be so quick to call your fellow conservatives hypocrites.
MadisonConservative on May 1, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Powerline has the goods on this guy; he ran a Biden Office and is now a big Obama supporter.
Kind of a good cross-section of the puerile worthless crap that would even consider voting for a clueless lying bastard such as Biden and/or Obama.
TexasJew on May 1, 2008 at 11:12 PM
And that question came from a Baptist Minister? What the heck is going on here?
All these so called “Reverends”, “Ministers” and even a priest are giving Christianity a bad name.
It was terrible question to begin with but to find out that it came from a man that is suppose to speak about Christ is an outrage, as is everything coming out lately.
Conservatives R Us on May 1, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Maybe we’ll be lucky enough this time to see droves of them leave for Canada or France like they promised.
wise_man on May 1, 2008 at 11:13 PM
He has already lost that bet, many times over.
Yes we were, and most of us found it out of bounds to ask any daughter about the indiscretions of their father.
Everyone just keep this kind of thing in mind the next time you hear a Democrat say “Republican dirty trick / tactics” or “Republican smear machine”. Nothing wrong with a honest and tough question, it’s not Republican’s fault that the Democrats don’t like answering them because the answer will turn away Indpendents. So Democrats have to lie or sensationalize.
But hey, if nothing is out of bounds, let’s ask Obama what was so wrong with him and his mother that forced his father abandonded them. Let’s ask Clinton if she is concerned that she will contract HIV or has she and Bill stopped having sex.
Hog Wild on May 1, 2008 at 11:19 PM
McCain should have answered that the questioner was “acting like a second grader” and that he needs to know his “boundries.” Even Detroit 8th graders know that.
Mallard T. Drake on May 1, 2008 at 11:31 PM
The questioner should have been tased by African American security officers in a sort of poltically correct, globally multicultural sort of way.
Other than that, McCain did swimmingly.
awake on May 1, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Yep.
Although they sure seemed determined to lose on purpose, don’t they?
I’ll bet this particularly ripe piece of hypocrisy will play really well in the Heartland.
Professor Blather on May 1, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I agree - and frankly, I wish he’d gone just about ballistic on this one.
Liberals might not appreciate it … but every normal man in America would. I think in this case he should have let go of the self-control and said he what he was really thinking.
Professor Blather on May 1, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Pretty much.
Professor Blather on May 1, 2008 at 11:57 PM
You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.
I guarantee that if an idiot conservative tosses that word at Hillary Clinton, not one of us would support it.
Free speech does not equal classless vulgarity. Or at the very least, free speech does not require the support of all kinds of speech.
The very essence of free speech is that when an idiot choose to use that right in such a loutish manner, the rest of us get to voice our own opinions on that idiocy.
Not one conservative blogger would “not complain” if this were done to Clinton or Obama. Not one.
Professor Blather on May 2, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I would not be so quick to assume that it has a mother. I believe it is much more probable that someone turned over a rock somewhere and gave what they found underneath a name.
I think it would be much more effective if he had Dennis Miller on staff for occasions such as this.
jdkchem on May 2, 2008 at 12:16 AM
I say turn up the microphone on these clowns. They’re certainly a self-defeating bunch.
swami on May 2, 2008 at 12:16 AM
It must have taken an enormous amount of restraint on McCain’s part not to stomp a mudhole in this scumbag’s ass and walk it dry.
packsoldier on May 2, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Good heavens, I thought I’d seen and heard it all. Once again, Democrats hit bottom and start digging.
capitalist piglet on May 2, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Walk it dry?
OMG…that seriously has to be one of the best affronts I’ve ever read.
Outstanding.
The Ugly American on May 2, 2008 at 12:33 AM
The Race Card on May 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Hey, you want to drop F and C bombs in front of the kids, be my guest. It’s your right to make an ass of yourself and to lower the tone of public discourse.
But I think asking that question and using language that coarse with any candidate is dead wrong, offensive and is indicative of a person without good sense.
So you want to insult me some more? Go ahead, keep proving my point.
DrW on May 2, 2008 at 12:42 AM
This guy must have attended the same divinity school as Jeremiah Wright! I can’t imagine any “true” minister would stoop to using such language in front of women & children……then again I can’t imagine a true minister using such language period!!
poodlemom on May 2, 2008 at 1:38 AM
That’s assuming that they already are that.
It’s going to be a loooong, ‘hot’ summer, gratis.
Entelechy on May 2, 2008 at 2:04 AM
Yeah, I believe McRage did call his wife that in front of reporters. However, asking him about it in this manner was totally over the top- like his thinning hair…. Back off John…. I was just kidding tough guy… What’s a trollop anyway?
Valiant on May 2, 2008 at 2:36 AM
sounds like a certain baptist minister gets his jollies using profanity in public.
mental patient.
ctmom on May 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM
trol·lop /ˈtrɒləp/ Pronunciation[trol-uhp]–noun
1. an immoral or promiscuous woman, esp. a prostitute.
2. an untidy or slovenly woman; slattern.
Was this outburst caught on video or audio?
TexasBella on May 2, 2008 at 7:19 AM
…by outburst, I’m referring to the rumored McCain outburst to his wife in front of reporters.
TexasBella on May 2, 2008 at 7:20 AM
No surprise.
I’ve been saying from the get-go that the Left really has nothing to attack McCain on. So they scraped the bottom of the barrel. And voters are going to be very turned off by it.
Most people probably would have punched that guy straight in the face for a remark like that.
JetBoy on May 2, 2008 at 7:37 AM
Each time they ask these types of questions, they add independent voters to McCain’s side. Keep it up and show your stupidity.
amr on May 2, 2008 at 7:39 AM
I’m not even surprised by that behavior anymore. That’s what we have running congress now.
Hening on May 2, 2008 at 7:45 AM
Schecter’s source for the incident is “Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, ”
But it does fit in character for him with respect for women.
Valiant on May 2, 2008 at 7:46 AM
This is just some crazy guy asking an obnoxious question.
But of course, you have to act all outraged and paint all Democrats with the naughty word brush.
Mountain, molehill.
How boring. And irrelevant.
Next.
Dave Rywall on May 2, 2008 at 9:03 AM
The questioner has an abject lack of political sense, as well as courtesy. Had that question been asked minus the slur, it would have been as legitimate as the rest of the “issues” we have discussed in this campaign.
joewm315 on May 2, 2008 at 9:05 AM
How stupid can one get…not much more then these foolish character assassinations.
I could make the point that you can only find a few of these examples from a man fighting for citizen rights for dozens of years.
You have no idea about his “respect for women”. Even his ex-wife has nothing but positive things to say, and if anyone has an axe to grind it is an ex-wife.
You spend the time to find the quote, but you don’t attribute it to anyone…it wouldn’t be Patrick Leahy from the WaPo would it? Who Robert Sheer calls his close friend and colleague…Sheer has no conservatives as a close friend (as he admits)…Leahy should stick to writing about basketball players, his only other political writings have been hit pieces on Republicans.
right2bright on May 2, 2008 at 9:06 AM
Baptist minister, huh?
And clearly this is one of the raging issues of our time.
I think we should move on, folks! Asking these kinds of questions is not going to get our children educated!
Seriously, I absolutely despise anonymous sources, and frankly think Schecter and firedoglake can take their unnamed sources and stick them, well, you know where.
Impeaching someone- anyone- with anonymous sources is the height of irresponsibility.
drjohn on May 2, 2008 at 9:16 AM
It’s times like that you just have to roll your eyes and suffer the burdens of the morons in society. No need to get mad; let it go…their life sucks and they have no way out.
Asking him to repeat the question would’ve been funny though…just to make him say the word twice and really embarrass himself.
tlynch001 on May 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM
I’d like to ask Hillary if she ever called Bill a &%&%#@%, but I’m not ordained.
RBMN on May 2, 2008 at 9:37 AM
I really could care less what he called his wife or whether she deserved it. What I do care about is that every time I get the guts to throw my conservative ideals under the bus and vote for McCain I catch a clip of him somewhere saying something that makes me want to barf. Last night it was a clip of him lamenting about illegals being Gods children and needing legal standing in this country.
This jerk evidently doesn’t care about American drywallers, brick layers, painters, framers, roofers, (the list goes on) that are loosing their jobs every day to illegals who will work for half the pay while living in their three families to a house residences and driving with no insurance while fathering litters of children who will (unbelievably) automatically become US citizens to inundate our already suffering school and welfare system.
Evidently the idea is that because these people are in need in their own failing country, middle America (not the politicians) are suposed to give up a portion of their well being to share with the illegal invaders.
Forget it McCain. I for one will sit out this election before submitting to your crap.
Ernest on May 2, 2008 at 9:38 AM
When my 12 yr old daughter is subjected to the classless behavior of opposing teams (trash talk) during her basketball games, her father tells her to respond “I’d expect to hear something like that from someone like You.” My response is one I used as a smart mouthed teenager—”You kiss you brother(mother, sister, dog, etc)with that mouth?”. Sen.McCain or Mrs. McCain has my permission to use either…
dish on May 2, 2008 at 9:41 AM
Simple answer…
‘No, but I’m calling you one’.
That townhall would have carried McCain out on their shoulders and proclaimed him emperor.
Limerick on May 2, 2008 at 9:59 AM
Maybe this guy was a ROVE PLANT set up by Joe Biden to make Johnny look GOOD!!!
YEAH YEAH YEAH!!!
That’s it!
It must be, that’s how EVERYTHING works in politics!!!
!!!
benrand on May 2, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Valiant on May 2, 2008 at 7:46 AM
I’m not saying there is a connection, but Sandra Dowling HAS since been destroyed. Her stewardship of a school for homeless kids resulted in her indictment for fraud and malfeasance of office.
DrW on May 2, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Watching DEMS is more fun than a man should be allowed to have standing up…. Just be very, very quiet and pay ATTENTION… TWO steps forward, THREE steps back!!!! From the JAWS of VICTORY!!!!
pueblo1032 on May 2, 2008 at 10:02 AM
No, I called Bill’s wife a c*nt.
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Why would anybody on the Right ask this type of stupid question of Hillary or Bambi when there are so many relevant and interesting questions to ask them? Hillary, can you tell me how to make $100,000 in one day? Barry, can we expect Ayers to plant any more bombs?
The fact that the leftists are making such pathetic attacks on McCain shows how little there is to attack him for. Especially from their point of view. On very big issues, he’s with ‘em, except foreign policy, where he’s a grown-up.
misterpeasea on May 2, 2008 at 11:04 AM
I’m glad you brought up Carol McCain. Where can I find her positive feedback for her unstable, cheating husband?
Valiant on May 2, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Maybe a conservative should ask Obama if it’s true that he beat his wife and kids. They don’t call them the nutroots for nothing.
orlandocajun on May 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM
It seems to have escaped everyone’s attention that this is what happens when you don’t restrict admission to your events. The McCain campaign has made a big deal out of its policy of allowing anyone to attend these townhalls, in contrast to the Bush campaigns that gave out tickets only to identified supporters and had very tight security. They are stupid if they did not realize that was an open invitation to the nutroots to plant obnoxious questions like this. They would like nothing better than to trap McCain into a macaca moment. The problem is that whatever McCain may say in these townhalls will be buried by the media, who will only play the obnxious nutroots questions.
McCain needs to pull some jujitsu here and demand that Obama order his supporters to stop this “old politics” stuff.
rockmom on May 2, 2008 at 11:30 AM
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