Huckabee: Wright needs Obama to lose to justify his sense of perpetual racial grievance
posted at 5:08 pm on May 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
There are two cynical theories of why he’s running off at the mouth knowing that it hurts Obama, both of which were touched on in this post. The weak form, or Gingrich theory, is that Wright’s feelings are hurt after he was shunted aside and now he’s out for revenge. I.e. it’s personal. The strong form, or Huckabee theory, is that Wright’s black nationalist ministry is threatened by the progress that an Obama presidency would confirm. I.e. it’s business, and he’s out to protect his business interests. From one man known for mixing politics and religion to another:
“Jeremiah Wright needs for Obama to lose so he can justify his anger, his hostile bitterness against the United States of America,” Huckabee told reporters following a fundraiser for Montana gubernatorial candidate Roy Brown.
“If it’s not true that a man, because of his color, is held back and can’t be president, then so much of what Jeremiah Wright has said is invalid,” Huckabee said…
“His (Obama’s) campaign is not being derailed by his race, it’s being derailed by a person who doesn’t want him to prove that we have made great advances in this country,” Huckabee said.
It’s clever and Machiavellian enough that people will want this to be true — but is it? As much of a comfort as it is to imagine racial demagogues like Wright, Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson panicking at the thought of a post-racial America and setting out to kneecap Obama, if what Huck says is true then how come they haven’t been trying to sabotage him all along? It wasn’t anything Wright said recently that caused this to burst open; it was Brian Ross at ABC digging out his old sermons and posting the killer soundbites. If the goal was to wreck Obama’s chances, the time to speak up was before he went on that decisive roll of caucus victories in February. Instead Wright was a good soldier for more than a year, keeping quiet and not doing anything to attract attention to himself until ABC and Fox forced the issue. The Gingrich theory is closer to the truth, I think.
Exit question: What happened to Huck’s sympathy for Wright? I thought we owed the man some slack.
As easy as it is for those of us who are white, to look back and say “That’s a terrible statement!”…I grew up in a very segregated south. And I think that you have to cut some slack — and I’m gonna be probably the only Conservative in America who’s gonna say something like this, but I’m just tellin’ you — we’ve gotta cut some slack to people who grew up being called names, being told “you have to sit in the balcony when you go to the movie. You have to go to the back door to go into the restaurant. And you can’t sit out there with everyone else. There’s a separate waiting room in the doctor’s office. Here’s where you sit on the bus…” And you know what? Sometimes people do have a chip on their shoulder and resentment. And you have to just say, I probably would too. I probably would too. In fact, I may have had more of a chip on my shoulder had it been me.










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I like Huck, but he needs a drink out of Carter’s big cup of shut the fark up.
Hening on May 1, 2008 at 5:11 PM
This isn’t the first time I’ve heard this theory.
But, the cynic in me says the Obama camp has orchestrated this whole thing to get Wright out of the picture.
Terri on May 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Huckabee will say anything, to anyone, at any time, for his advantage. (Always excepting Mormons, of course.)
WasatchMan on May 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Unless, he didn’t think Obama had a chance to the nod. At which point, Wright could have used Obama’s defeats to further his cause.
yo on May 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Well, to be really conspiratorially-minded, don’t you think the demagogues would benefit more if the nomination was yanked away from him, rather than if he were to lose it slowly or never really compete in the first place?
Big S on May 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
*chance to win the nod
yo on May 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Is Huckabee ever going to go away. He is like a republican Carter… yet worse.
upinak on May 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Why couldn’t it be both…Wright wants revenge and he wants to sink the black guy?
Terrye on May 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM
There’s nothing like waving a red flag at a bull, is there?
NeighborhoodCatLady on May 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM
And Huckabee needs himself to lose to justify his sense of perpetual religious grievance?
MB4 on May 1, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Sure, but (a) if you wait too long to sabotage him, you run the risk that he’ll be too entrenched as the frontrunner and it won’t work, and (b) if he gets close to the nomination and loses, it’ll still be taken as proof that blacks can be president. If you’re looking to prove that the deck is irretrievably stacked against blacks, you’d want him to lose spectacularly, I think.
Allahpundit on May 1, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Love ‘em or hate ‘em, Gov Romney at least has the decency to accept his defeat and stay out of the public life until requested from the McCain campaign (which may be never) as opposed to certain other presidential candidates who just don’t know when to stay low. (Come to think of it, this applies to more than just the subject of the thread.)
Weebork on May 1, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Soft bigotry of low expectations. They didn’t think that he had a chance. That, and they would have missed the opportunity to maximize profits by shaking down both campaigns.
rw on May 1, 2008 at 5:25 PM
I think Huck is on the mark on this, and here is why….
The give away by Wright was….”and if you win, I will be coming after you”……
I think for Sharpton and Jackson and Wright, the black liberation theology, which is really a political manifesto of sorts, contradicts any black man legitimately being successful without being an “uncle Tom” or ‘grandstanding for the white man’ as Sharpton puts it.
All this percolates just below the surface, and when your world view is 50 years in the past and makes you a lot of money, then any black man espousing reality is going to get whacked.
Having said all this, Obama is still a left wing radical in sheep’s clothing, but the hate merchants don’t even like the color of his wool…..
Starlink on May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM
“KISS” applies once again: while Huck’s premise may be right as an operative statement, human nature suggest Newt’s point of view is much more accurate.
How many times have we seen the rich and powerful screw either their careers, influence, or message, over essentially silly personal things?
Narcissism is ever the Achilles’ Heel of the rich and powerful.
(paging BillyJeff, Trent, Packwood, Britney, Lindsay, Nixon, Packwood, Kennedy, NOW, etc., etc.)
Wanderlust on May 1, 2008 at 5:28 PM
They never thought he’d be the likely nominee. They could play along with the “That’s our boy!”, while simultaneously feeling secure that they could still play the oppression card when he, their choice, lost the nomination.
amerpundit on May 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM
I’m old enough to have seen first-hand segregation in the
50′s and early 60′s. That was THEN and this is NOW. There
is no place in the country today that has a segregated bus,
segregated movie theater, or a segregated Church (except
for Barack Obamas all-black church).
gary on May 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Except that there’s a good chance he wins in November. Basically, you can’t let him get to that point, otherwise he’ll win.
amerpundit on May 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Your first point is a good one. I’m more in line with Newt on this issue anyway; Wright has been too crazy for too long to attribute this wholly to some play for power based on an Obama loss. Obama said, after the past week of nuttiness, that Wright is not the man he thought he knew. Whether or not you believe that, I bet Wright is thinking the same thing now.
Big S on May 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Thankyou Governor Obvious.
TBinSTL on May 1, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Puhlease. Obama is not being derailed by Rev. Wright, he’s being derailed by his own actions, which included embracing Rev. Wright – who is saying the same things today he said in front of the congregation Barry was a member of.
Buy Danish on May 1, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Huck treads verbally where others fear to go–and—I sort of admire him for it.
jeanie on May 1, 2008 at 5:40 PM
I’ve always been fascinated by what Richard Hofstader called the “conspiratorial mindset” in American politics. And it cuts across all party, philosophical, and ethnic lines.
Huckabee isn’t the first person- on any side of the American political spectrum- to attribute diabolical cunning on Machiavellian levels to those he regards as his political opponents. Consider the number of ‘progressives’ who somehow manage to believe that President Bush is simultaneously a dunce and a cunning conspirator. (Robert Catesby would be jealous, I’m sure.) But one of the dangers of this is that you ignore the rule of William of Occam, namely that the simplest explanation which fits the available facts is probably correct.
In this case, the simplest explanation is that Wright is an egocentric, self-serving paranoiac with a deep-rooted hatred of anyone he defines as different from himself. And like most people with that mental makeup, he defines himself as perfect, and perceives others’ “perfection” or “imperfection” in exact proportion to their difference from, or similarity to, himself.
Of course, that latter factor is also characteristic of “progressives” in general. Including Senator Obama.
There is also the fact that cannot be emphasized too often, namely that Wright’s views, in “enlightened progressive intellectual” circles, simply are not sufficiently strange to be considered worthy of note. It’s not a great step from imagining the U.S. government being responsible for AIDS to concluding that the White House planned 9/11- and there are unfortunately many people in the self-defined “intellectual” classes who believe that very thing, and get quite hostile if you dare to disagree with them. In those circles, “conspiracy theories” that seem totally insane to most people are all too often the common coin- almost a way of proving that you’re one of the “smart, sophisticated people” who should be running the world.
The real problem isn’t Reverend Wright. The real problem is how endemic views like his are in a substantial proportion of those who define themselves as “enlightened” and believe that they have a sort of “divine right to rule”.
Seen in this light, Senator Obama’s behavior could easily have been predicted, as the product of the “echo chamber” his character was formed in. Reverend Wright is simply farther down in the chamber than Senator Obama.
And there was no one around to point out that neither one of them had the same problem that the little boy pointed out about the clotheshorse Emperor. Namely, that he wasn’t actually wearing any clothes.
cheers
eon
eon on May 1, 2008 at 5:42 PM
AP, with all due respect, you are clueless as to how politics and religion have been mixed since the founding of our country.
One example from the 20th century:
Red Pill on May 1, 2008 at 5:43 PM
That should be “both of them”, not “neither one”. Got tangled in my own syntax. Sorry.
cheers
eon
eon on May 1, 2008 at 5:45 PM
The “grievance community” is much like a bucket of crabs.
You don’t have to cover a bucket of crabs because if one of them tries to get out, the others pull him back down.
TBinSTL on May 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Touche’.
Buy Danish on May 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM
We always knew you were a stealth democrat, huckleberry.
argos on May 1, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Wright is just trying to be next Al Sharpton and will do anything to stay in the spotlight, and to do that he needs to keep hurting Obama.
Grafted on May 1, 2008 at 5:55 PM
No. The man is retired from preaching. He has already made his money preaching hate; milked that one dry.
Now comes the book deal and TV news commentary money.
pseudonominus on May 1, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Roger Clemons is a perfect example of that. He couldn’t just do a simple mea culpaand ask for forgiveness. Instead, he puffed up and strutted in public. Now, he’s looking at possible time in the slammer, a tarnished reputation, and all his marital infidelities are being publicized. All for ego.
a capella on May 1, 2008 at 5:59 PM
I think Wright really, seriously believes all the non-sense he has been preaching; in spite of being surrounded by tons of evidence that things are not really as bad as he is making them out to be. IMO, this is no different than the liberals that keep saying Bush lied/People died. You show them videos of ALL the democrats saying the same thing Bush said leading up to the Iraq war, and all the other countries’ intel reports that were saying the exact same thing (never mind Hussein himself saying it) but it doesn’t penetrate their brain.
So because he really believes it, I don’t think he in any way tried to use those appearances to embarrass Barack. I bet he really thought if he could just get a chance in front of the camera to explain his positions fully to the masses, we would understand. And I’m sure it is painful to end what was considered a successful career on such a sour note….much like Dan Rather. I’m sure we will keep hearing from Wright as he tries to salvage his own legacy.
Cheesestick on May 1, 2008 at 6:04 PM
How about the cynical theory that Wright and Obama are collaborating together and doing all of this on purpose, so that Obama can MoveOn from this distraction?
That seems the most likely scenario to me really.
Riposte on May 1, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Black Americans were slaves. That’s all you need to know.
/BLT
SouthernGent on May 1, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Riposte, you are correct.
Obama and Wright are working in concert.
Wright said so months ago. Wright’s friend confirmed it on Greta’s show a couple nights ago.
Obama would have to turn from Wright during the general. Only problem is, they had to pull the big con job a little earlier than expected.
faraway on May 1, 2008 at 6:11 PM
I’m taking the Occam’s Razor approach-
We already know that Wright is a idiot loon. Given his long-running support for Obama, I don’t see him trying to derail the campaign out of a need to appear aggrieved.
Obama has denounced some of what Wright has said, but in terms of criticizing Wright even his most recent speech was very mild.
So what we have is an effort by Wright to portray their relationship in good shape when he truthfully said that Obama is just saying what he has to to get elected when criticizing him. This- far more than anything Wright has said- bothered Obama as it contradicts the image he’s tried to portray and hence the somewhat stronger condemnation.
I’m sure that Wright was a little bothered by what Obama said, but he understood that it was just politics- and he was too stupid to keep his mouth shut in saying so.
Race hustlers like Wright will always cling to their oppressed victim status; Obama being elected wouldn’t change that- certainly not enough that he’d give up the chance to have his friend and protege in the White House.
Hollowpoint on May 1, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Without attempting to read his mind, I think Wright is just being Wright. Instead of the usual pulpit he stumbled onto the national stage for his brief moment of infamy. Several pieces have been written attesting to the severe scarring left on the victims of Jim Crow laws. Wright and several other noted Reverends fall in this category. They will never get over it. It leads to stupefyingly asinine statements such as “the Government invented HIV to kill blacks etc”. They are and will forever in their own eyes remain victims. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to change this, outside of senility and dying.
Obama knows this, thus he treads lightly, and so does the Dem party which caters to the Wright’s of the Black electorate–not a small number. Without the Black vote the Dem party ceases to exist as a functioning party. Victimology is a huge vote getter.
patrick neid on May 1, 2008 at 6:15 PM
If I lived in Chicago and had to slog through all the sewage, corruption, malfeasance, onerous taxation etc. that goes on in Chicago, I would think that the world is as bad as Wright thinks it is. The good Reverend Wright is just accusing the wrong people for this condition.
PrettyD_Vicious on May 1, 2008 at 6:17 PM
It’s not that complicated. Wright is just more principled than most on the Left and says what he actually believes.
Asher on May 1, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Huck’s 200% right. I said it all along – Wright and Farrakhan will have no jobs as race hustlers when there is a black president.
Ironically, Al-Burack is their worst enemy right now.
Aristotle on May 1, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Huck is 100% wrong. People like Wright will always find a reason to play the victim, and an Obama in office doesn’t change that a bit. Wright still treats slavery and Jim Crow laws like they’re going on today in ranting about whites- Obama isn’t going to hop in a time machine and undo them.
Presidents don’t have absolute power- whatever didn’t go their way could still be blamed on Whitey.
Hollowpoint on May 1, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Who the h-ll cares what one divisive a–hole has to say about another divisive a–hole?
Nichevo on May 1, 2008 at 6:38 PM
It wouldn’t have made sense to kneecap him early on….it has the BEST usefulness NOW.
Here’s the analogy: I sell rocks. I make a lot of money and am getting a 10,000 sq ft home out of selling rocks. I sure as heck am not going to tell the people where to get their own rocks, and anybody who does has to be stopped. But what if the people suspect they might be able to get their own rocks, what if they have been thinking about it? Then show them a really smart hard-working guy doing everything right and right before he gets the rocks, show them it is IMPOSSIBLE and that they NEED me for the rocks.
If Wright can get the dem’s to “steal” it from Obama and give it to Clinton, he’s good for another 50 years of how whitey is holding the black man down.
But I don’t know if Wright is that smart…this could just be his chickens coming home to roost.
JustTruth101 on May 1, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Another stupid clueless statment by the religious bigot.
It could be true if Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton were the ones derailing Obama, but Rev Wright would have been the relgious leader of the POTUS..and that is a big deal. Rev Wright has much to lose if he loses favor with Obama or if he stays in Obama’s good graces but Obama loses.
Rev Wright: Look at me, I am black, when you attack me, you attack black churches.
Huckster: Look at me, I am a christian leader, when you attack me, you are attacking the christian faith.
Two people…same jerk-off attitude.
Roger Waters on May 1, 2008 at 6:57 PM
I don’t think Wright has any conspiracy against Obama considering he said nothing new at the Press Club but I do think he got a little pee’d off at him for his “distancing himself” from his holiness.
Hey Rev Wright! I wouldn’t take that if I were you! Find a TV camera and let him have it!
Big Orange on May 1, 2008 at 6:58 PM
The Gingrich theory and Huckabee theories both have merit, but they seem to not include some relevant information.
Wright has been preaching what he preaches for the past 20 years or so, and it’s not exactly a secret. In fact it was available on DVD.
Further Wright is not alone in his views. Black racism is hardly new, or a secret. But it never receives any air time; in fact, up until now, it couldn’t.
I think that things are much simpler: Barak Hussein Obama wants to be President, at just about any cost. Wright has no intention of changing his views (and really does want BHO to be President).
Both men think that by BHO distancing himself from Wright, all will be forgiven, and that which is not will not be talked about, just like the existence of racist black churches and theology in the US. Prior to the Wright Revelation(s), public discussion of Black Liberation Theology was unheard of.
But now the horse is out of the barn.
To some degree, Wright’s recent remarks are an attempt to intimidate the press and America at large, to return to the status quo or to discuss his remarks and risk being labeled a racist. We know how brave the MSM is. Wright might succeed.
This is simply an attempt to get everyone to forget and then believe that “the horse is really still in the barn, because the barn door is closed again”; that is, discussing black racism is still taboo.
This might sound like hypocrisy on the part of Wright, perhaps an attempt to have his cake and eat it too, clearly an intellectual conflict.
Remember though, that Wright retired to a 93% white neighborhood, and there was no outcry from his congregation …
My guess is that BHO and Wright will still have the father-figure/adopted-son relationship even after the election.
Arbalest on May 1, 2008 at 7:13 PM
OK, assuming it’s not simply the Amy Holmes idea come true…
It seems it’s a bit of both with a powergrab elevation twist. Rev Wright is fearless and principled in his own crazy uncle way and he can’t be happy that the Obama political couple is now dissing Wright and 20 years of his ideas and their discussions at the very time when he thinks they should be speaking truth to power and highlighting his profound influence on their audacious beliefs. Therefore, one possibility is that Wright now has lost hope in an audacious Obama Presidency and has come up with Plan B.
As I pointed out in The Wright Stuff comments:
econavenger on May 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Well, good point….I don’t really know what it is like to live someplace that corrupt. Mainly my point was, I don’t think he was trying to cause Obama trouble on purpose for his own ends. Seems like he really just wanted to set the record straight & answer the criticism he’s been getting. And because he’s so steeped in these beliefs, he didn’t know how poorly it was going to be received among the wider public.
Cheesestick on May 1, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Starlink on May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Exactly.
It’s like the global warmists needing global warming to be true. Instead of rejoicing at data that shows that the climate is okey-dokey (which they claim is what they want) they do everything to hide it, or claim that it’s fraudlent.
The same thing holds true for feminists or pretty much any activist group.
If the issue that gives them power ceases to be an issue they loose their power.
29Victor on May 1, 2008 at 8:07 PM
From one race-baiting angry moral relativist preacher to a bitter atheist moral relativist blogger.
AP you really know how to make someone despise atheists. I now turn off Hitchens when he is on the tube. I will never read Lovecraft. Before I started reading this blog I was rather neutral on the issue.
Now, the next time I run into one on the street, I will commence to jap-slapping them in your honor.
Jungliszt on May 1, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I think it’s a little of both.
SuperCool on May 1, 2008 at 8:56 PM
The post, and the discussion, assume that Obama’s election would improve race relations and/or result in fewer accusations of racism.
What’s going to happen every single time anyone from the other side criticizes President Obama?
Racism, pure and simple. If the NC GOP ad was racist, everything will be racist.
Cashing in on racism will not end any time in the near future.
misterpeasea on May 1, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I wish Huckabee would just go away.
What is peculiar about this BLT embraced in the TUCofC by both Wright and Obama is that neither is a product of the Jim Crow South. They both also have mixed genes from the black and white pool. Why do they (sorry) cling to grievances, real or imagined, that cannot be undone and that are certainly not part of the American experience today?
A politics or a church based on grievance-mongering festers in passiveness, anger, and hopelessness.
onlineanalyst on May 1, 2008 at 9:57 PM
My first impression was that Huck was getting all Freudian WRT Wright, and perhaps he was attempting to explain Wright’s behavior on some subconscious level. I hadn’t really thought of it from this ‘strong form’ point of view, although I suppose this and the Gingrich theory need not be mutually exclusive. It could be that Wright honestly didn’t give a second thought to how it would impact Obama politically, and his motivation was strictly selfish and egotistical. Not sure. Maybe it doesn’t matter.
ChenZhen on May 1, 2008 at 10:12 PM
I don’t think that this is even up for question: Of course true and great success by African-Americans is not in Wright’s interest. Same for Louis Farrakhan. Same for Jesse Jackson. Same for Al Sharpton. And so on. If Black America suddenly woke up tomorrow morning (as a whole) and realized that the civil rights struggle had actually been won a few decades ago, all these jokers would have to go on the dole.
(Oh, they’d probably like that….)
seanrobins on May 1, 2008 at 10:47 PM
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You know Huckabee is out there raising money for Republican Candidates. How much have you raised/given? Huckabee is not going away, but he’s not he’s not being destructive to anybody either. He’s going campaigning for the Governor Candidate in Montana, and for our Congressional Candidate in a Special Election in MS. What’s your problem with him helping Republicans?
adamsweb on May 1, 2008 at 11:45 PM
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faraway on May 1, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Ouch. That’ll leave a mark.
A little stronger than I would have said it, but I agree that AP’s bitterness toward Huckabee has always been over the top. And it’s no surprise that AP chose to slam Huckabee in two separate posts less than a week before the NC primaries.
Well said. Huckabee is part of the solution, not part of the problem.
McCain, on the other hand, is part of the problem.
Red Pill on May 2, 2008 at 9:22 AM