” I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community”.

irongrampa on April 30, 2008 at 4:18 PM

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother

Now, he should have went on to explain why he needed to gain “credibility” in black community in the first place..

Damn, a Black man with a Harvard law degree and he has to do something to “gain credibility” with a certain community?(Whats wrong here? Something in that culture sounds like success is being punished, frowned upon, or envied)

Ask some questions about the culture in such a community where things like this exist, is it because of his multi-culture heritage, his education or speech patterns?

We see that if a Black person is a conservative that they aren’t considered “black” by some or that they lose a certain percentage of melanin content and are open to attacks and ridicule…

Stop the cycle of victimhood.(”Oh he’s not black enough”,”He’s not one of us” thats the stuff that needs to be abolished and condemned)

If he really would have took on these issues in the PA speech then it really would have been something.

The source added, “After 20 years of loving Barack like he is one of their own, after he was embraced by this congregation as a brother in Christ, after his pastor was a father figure to him and gave him credibility in a city he had not grown up in and in a black community that was suspect of someone from Hawaii and Harvard, he thanks him by not allowing him to speak publicly at his announcement last year?

The reason he went to Wright and not Pfleger.

So, who’s going to mediate between Obama and Ayers and Obama and Dohrn next month?

funky chicken on April 30, 2008 at 1:02 PM

If it turns into a grudge match, my money is on the bombers.

Pfleger said. “I think the pain and the moment took over.”

That’s right. It took over 20 years and now the roosting chickens are pooping on the henhouse roof.

Separated at birth?

because Obama chose to be a junkie in his young adult life

Cite, please.

Anyone else notice that he looked just like Senator Pansy Graham during that little hissyfit?

Did he maybe retire from the church after consulting with Obama about how Wright would be used in the campiagn? They didn’t want to get the churchs tax-exempt status in trouble. So now that Obama has decided to get rid of Wright, he retired for nothing.

p40tiger at 11:28AM

Oreos? What are you implying by using that term?

fixed…it was out of context…

Early on in his political career he made to choice of choosing one side over the other instead of being his own man. When you do that you elevate one side while at the same time pushing down the other.

He decided to elevate his black side all the while pushing down his other half. Must be why it was so easy to throw his grand mother under the bus but had such a hard time throwing the rev under.
You cannot be post racial and pick a side you choose to identify with. Obama tried to hide it and now his “chickens are coming home to roost” so to say. He has no way to tap dance out of it.
Shelby Steele had it dead on all along.
I put the blame for this on Obama and the Black community. Obama for deciding to betray part of himself and the Black community for not accepting him for who he was, by saying he was not authentic. In a sense they made him the “great black hope” instead of just the “great hope”.

Obama says that he has known Wright for “almost 20 years”, and that Wright married the Obama couple and baptized their children. Since Obama is 46 years old, he has followed Wright for most of his adult life. Since Obama was abandoned by his real father as a toddler and by his stepfather in Indonesia, who was Obama’s role model and mentor, other than Wright? If Obama is forced to abandon Wright for political reasons, does anyone know what Obama really believes? Does Obama even know?

great question. and how can we tell what the hell he believes? he hangs around with nutters and terrorists, but we should think all that “change” he wants to bring will be beneficial? no thanks

If Wright were smart, he would know that his vicious, lying rants are poison to Obama’s campaign, and he would cancel all public appearances until the election, so that his protege might be elected President. But what if Wright is deluded enough to believe that he speaks the word of God and cannot be silenced for political expediency, he could deliberately undermine Obama to avenge Obama’s “betrayal”. If Wright continues to go public, Obama will follow in the footsteps of Dukakis and McGovern next November.

Obama says that he has known Wright for “almost 20 years”, and that Wright married the Obama couple and baptized their children. Since Obama is 46 years old, he has followed Wright for most of his adult life. Since Obama was abandoned by his real father as a toddler and by his stepfather in Indonesia, who was Obama’s role model and mentor, other than Wright? If Obama is forced to abandon Wright for political reasons, does anyone know what Obama really believes? Does Obama even know?

jgapinoy on April 30, 2008 at 11:26 AM

The only way to make money on shakedown is if there is not a black president in the White House.

Geronimo on April 30, 2008 at 11:43 AM

I believe that the Rev. Wright does not consciously want to hurt Obama’s chances to be president. However, unconsciously, he knows that if a black man, especially one from his own flock, becomes POTUS the hate and hurt that he, Rev. Wright, has built his life and church upon is proved wrong.

max1 on April 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM

This is the same reason I don’t think we will see members of Trinity leaving the church. If Obama becomes POTUS it destroys their world-view. People unconsciously self sabotage themselves all the time.

Now there is a danger of Obama being painted as an ‘Uncle Tom’?? (do any of the Toms out there kind of resent that phrase?) That would be an incredible turn of events; it would not get him any sympathy either, since a lack of loyalty would cast doubt on those who might sympathize.

Good Lord; there’s a chance here that the Dems will end up looking fondly back on McGovern

Funny you should ask…

How long until we hear the “house negro” line of disparaging remarks come out of Obama’s church or community?

moxie_neanderthal on April 30, 2008 at 11:35 AM

If Clinton wins Indiana by 10 or more pts Obama will get blown away by a McGovern-esque margin in the fall.

But what if Wright goes on Charlie Rose or wherever and speaks softly about how hurt he is by the fact that one of his “children,” who never had an unkind word to say about his ministry before, would sell him out for political advantage?

If Wright really wants to hurt Obama’s campaign he’ll go in this direction. The fact that Wright hasn’t called Obama out directly for his betrayal should be a clue about his true intentions. Wright is just doing the only thing he knows how to do – preaching his hateful, goofy gospel.

Allah, for an atheist, you have a pretty good knowledge of the Bible, better than some Christians I know.

txsurveyor on April 30, 2008 at 11:22 AM

They say Karl Marx memorized the whole New Testament.

Good Lord; there’s a chance here that the Dems will end up looking fondly back on McGovern after this one!

Wright isn’t trying to hurt Obama on purpose. He just speaks his sick mind and he isn’t politically astute.