Video: Indian villagers boost infants’ health by doing what must be done
posted at 6:10 pm on April 28, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Good thing India’s lost its vogue among western celebrities as a font of mystical orientalist wisdom. The LAPD would need a whole new unit to go around catching kids falling out of the sky.
Exit question: Think this’ll be mentioned in Hitchens’s next book about atheism?
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Not as dangerous as abortion for the health of the child… is it?
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Christians might just as easily use it to illustrate what sorts of doors get opened to those under Satanic deception.
TexasDan on April 28, 2008 at 6:17 PM
circumcision. enough said, right?
lorien1973 on April 28, 2008 at 6:17 PM
I wonder how the thought process works for the person who first thought that was a good idea….I got it! lets drop our baby from 50 feet up into a sheet held by people. that should cure them and make them healthier for the future! yay!
SoCalInfidel on April 28, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Obviously not. Then again, abortion doesn’t claim to be healthy for a baby.
I don’t know. This story doesn’t bother me too much since they claim no infants have been harmed because of it. They could be lying of course, but it’s not as though I have proof.
Esthier on April 28, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Hey this chick is my Dell tech support person. I swear.
Sounds like her anyway.
TheSitRep on April 28, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Michael Jackson is laughing right now.
(Maybe crying. I’m not sure.)
wise_man on April 28, 2008 at 6:26 PM
It’s hard to tell the difference with him.
Esthier on April 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Didn’t we used to do this before we outsourced it? I vaguely remember falling when I was a baby.
Lou Dobbs better be on this story tonight.
SteveMG on April 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Mine too. I think she said her name was “Roseanne.”
RBMN on April 28, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Never mind. I just e-mailed my older brother and he admitted to doing it to me.
Never did like him.
SteveMG on April 28, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Are you being sarcastic or not?
TexasDan on April 28, 2008 at 6:32 PM
I’m thinking this won’t be a serious topic of discussion.
I’d go with (a) and not (b).
SteveMG on April 28, 2008 at 6:33 PM
I don’t know about anyone else here - but Ravikiran Mehta’s explanation about all of this was totally on the mark.
Totally. I mean … wow. It was …. *whoof!* … yeah! *claps hands together* Heh, *laughs hysterically, even better than Tom Cruise in his Scientology video.* … ahhhhhhh.
wise_man on April 28, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Remember that young girl who died from rebirth therapy a few years back? That wasn’t a religious practice, just weird pop psychobabble run amok. Religious people aren’t the only ones who fall prey to dangerous practices and beliefs.
Common sense is the bulwark against such foolishness: babies shouldn’t be dropped, and kids shouldn’t be smothered, whatever God, Vishnu, or Dr. Moonsunriver may say.
joewm315 on April 28, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Well that was fairly disingenuous. My point was clear. I’m sure your a big supporter of a “woman’s right to choose.” If a woman can choose to kill her baby in the womb, why in the world couldn’t she choose to have it tossed off a fifty foot building with people below to catch it in a sheet?
Actually if you support abortion… as most atheist do, I can’t imagine why you would object with or without the sheet.
Now tell me again what’s so great about atheism?
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Bullcrap. That just pisses me off. Why do you assume that just because a person doesn’t believe in your god that we would be just fine and dandy with murdering the unborn? There are plenty of atheists and nonbelievers (this is what I call anyone that doesn’t believe in the JudeoChristian or Islamic God) that think abortion is wrong.
Now, I don’t know about tossing my kid 50ft off a roof… well, maybe, but only when they’re really onry. I believe that no children get harmed, it would have been reported as such if children were routinely injured by this. But there is no comparing this to abortion, nor is there justification for slandering scads of people you know nothing about.
the goddess anna on April 28, 2008 at 6:42 PM
India is the Light of the World…..
Not America……
Reverend Jerry Wright
awesum on April 28, 2008 at 6:42 PM
the goddess anna on April 28, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Most …. anna …. I said Most. And if that’s your position, good for you.
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 6:50 PM
That would be ORNERY…….
awesum on April 28, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 6:50 PM
I know you said most. I still disagree with your generalization. Also, these people are Hindus and Muslims, per the reporters. I believe that AP’s argument was that Hitchens would use their religious ritual (of tossing babes off the roof of the shrine) as an argument for atheism - meaning that atheists would have more respect for the well-being of the babies than the religious believers.
the goddess anna on April 28, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Forgive me. I’m doped up on (legal) meds right now, and I can’t spell. I can barely type. Gah. Ornery? It really has that many letters? Huh.
the goddess anna on April 28, 2008 at 6:56 PM
How in the world did you make that leap? Do you know most atheists? Was there a poll I missed?
Oldnuke on April 28, 2008 at 6:57 PM
C’mon now, haven’t you heard that God makes all things possible?
;)
Enrique on April 28, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Thank you.
RushBaby on April 28, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Although am as far from an atheist as it gets … I agree with Anna. Your comment is frankly both offensive and illogical.
You have no idea what “most” atheists believe. And I doubt individual atheists appreciate your broad-brushing them any more than you’d appreciate hearing what “most” Christians feel on a given issue.
The factual truth is that most Americans do support abortion, period. The polls are clear on that, no matter how strongly I may disagree.
But its no more fair of you to make your comment than it would be for Anna to imply that because you are an American you support abortion.
As for your implication that an atheist should be perfectly pleased to see an infant thrown to the street to its death … if your Christian behavior matched your claimed ideals, you’d be embarrassed for having said that and apologize.
That was just stupid.
Professor Blather on April 28, 2008 at 6:59 PM
And I disagree with your generalization which follows:
We don’t see a lot of atheists organizations going after Planned Parenthood …. do we? Ahhh, it’s the bad ol’ Christians that go after Planned Parenthood isn’t it? So who’s generalization is more accurate?
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 7:03 PM
I’m an atheist, and I assume all atheists are in favor of legal elective abortion (although not necessarily abortion on demand). But I’d differ with Maxx on one point - I think atheists can appreciate the fine moral distictions between terminating an unwanted pregnancy and throwing an infant off a f*cking roof.
Enrique on April 28, 2008 at 7:03 PM
From tossing a kid into a blanket to abortion so the thread can go OT? Easy. I’ll bet he could turn a NASCAR discussion into one on abortion. It’s all some folks think about.
a capella on April 28, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Professor Blather on April 28, 2008 at 6:59 PM
It seems like anna missing the word “most” you two missed the word “if.” If you are offended it’s because you didn’t read what I actually said.
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 7:11 PM
HOLY SHEET!!
right2bright on April 28, 2008 at 7:12 PM
It’s difficult to make a case for the religious nature of this activity if it is done by different religions in the same REGION. I would say it’s closer to cultural than religious. If no babies are killed, I don’t see the problem with it.
Of course I understand that our society can’t imagine a world where children under 10 aren’t strapped into a 12 point harness of a child seat for safety - heaven forbid the car catches fire or starts to fill with water while you try to get the child out of that ’safety’ contraption.
ThackerAgency on April 28, 2008 at 7:13 PM
It’s not off topic. If Allah insist that all religion is bad because of the video offered, then we need to talk about what non-religious people approve of.
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 7:14 PM
ThackerAgency on April 28, 2008 at 7:13 PM
I was talking about how this might be woven into a Hitchen’s book - and that it wasn’t atheists tossing kids off a roof (which is what I thought Maxx implied in his original post).
Maxx, no, you’re right, not a lot of atheists in this country go after PP. I don’t go after them either, personally. I don’t have the time or the resources to do so… I have a family and a household to take care of. But there are plenty of Christians that don’t either, so your point isn’t being well-made.
the goddess anna on April 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM
I’m not offended, I didn’t miss the if, I read what you said, I’m just wondering how you know most atheists support abortion. You stated is as fact. I’ve never seen any polling data on whether atheists in general support abortion. I never thought about. It may be true but I certainly couldn’t verify it.
Oldnuke on April 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM
Now, I’ve heard of a baby shower, but this is ridiculous…
JetBoy on April 28, 2008 at 7:27 PM
JetBoy on April 28, 2008 at 7:27 PM
That was so lame, and yet, it made me laugh. : )
the goddess anna on April 28, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League
Homepage
It seems that the atheists (after a quick review of a few atheist websites) do seem to lean quite heavily in the pro-abortion camp.
It seems they get hung up on one argument, they are afraid to say the fetus is actually a human because (this is their main argument, not mine) it may give the appearance (appearance) of supporting the Christians belief in humans having a soul. Of course they consider that ridiculous, but they are afraid that fighting for the right of the unborn may give strength to the “enemy”. Therefore, as one site stated, it is better to abort or not take any stand then to give appearance that a soul is in play.
But there are several sites of Pro-life atheists…but not the heavy duty atheist sites, they are definitely pro-abortion.
Just type in atheist, abortion
right2bright on April 28, 2008 at 7:34 PM
At last! Something Muslims and Hindus can agree on. Throwing babies off a roof.
morganfrost on April 28, 2008 at 7:35 PM
heh…I can live with that ;-)
JetBoy on April 28, 2008 at 7:41 PM
I’ve watched the video about three times now and it just sets my teeth on edge. I keep thinking about what would happen if the baby didn’t land flat on his back.
Oldnuke on April 28, 2008 at 7:42 PM
For all of you that are missing my point… some intentionally. My point is simply this. Before we get all in a huff about what is happening in the above video….. perhaps…. just perhaps we should be a little more concerned with the cultist that strap bombs to their babies…
Perhaps we should be a little more concerned with the 50 million death toll from abortion since 1974 in the United States alone that our elitist humanist approve of so proudly. They are non-religious by definition you know.
For the record, I don’t approve of what these people in the video are doing but before we screech at them for child abuse or child endangerment or whatever, maybe we should look in our own backyard.
You want to solve the problem in the video? I suggest you send a big donation to your nearest Christian church, maybe we can reach them with missionaries. But please don’t try to use this as an example of why all religion is awful and atheism is better.
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 7:43 PM
I’m a little ashamed of this, but does the screencap AP used on the main page make anybody else think of THE BEASTMASTER?
If I click on that video and Rip Torn isn’t in it, it will be a letdown.
Well-Armed Lamb on April 28, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Is that guy wearing a frycook’s hat?
“Who ordered the tenderized baby tartare?”
James on April 28, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Maxx, not to throw a monkey wrench in your argument, but it’s not only the non religious humanist elites who are big abortionites (abortioninians?). There has been a rise in the ‘religious left’ in recent years. Just one example is Hillary’s denomination, the Methodists. As far back as 1972 (IIRC) they officially condone abortion in their church precepts. I didn’t believe it either, til I did a little digging around and found it on their own site. No linky thingy handy, but read it about six months ago.
bikermailman on April 28, 2008 at 8:37 PM
bikermailman on April 28, 2008 at 8:37 PM
My church (PCA) sponsored a debate on abortion and the “pro” participants were two Methodist ministers. Just sayin’.
Quisp on April 28, 2008 at 8:38 PM
What the hell does that do to the kids brand new brain banging around in his skull?
peacenprosperity on April 28, 2008 at 8:51 PM
All sorts of people believe all sorts of things, but I think the implication of this post (Allah’s post) was to say in a rather blithe way…. see what these silly religious people believe…. See I told you atheism is better.
And that’s just not valid, you don’t have to know much history to know the non-religious nations have caused nearly all of the massive death and destruction. Think communism for a minute, was Pol Pot religious? There is nearly an endless number of names I could have substituted for the previous. So it’s patently absurd to shake your finger at “religious people” and say they are the blame for most of the wars, death and destruction. But it’s a very popular argument.
Now I expect someone will remind me of the Crusades or of the Inquisition…. but those are bogus arguments too.
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 8:58 PM
This should serve as an example that life is cheap in other, non-Christian cultures. What we cry over (perverted female MPs for example) is NOTHING in cultures where they toss babies, strap bombs to babies, teach babies to hate and kill.
Liberals need to pay attn and grow up.
Spartacus on April 28, 2008 at 9:34 PM
If this ritual was being performed by Hindus and Muslims in the US the media (including HA) wouldn’t touch this story with a ten foot barge pole. Multiculturalism Uber Alles.
aengus on April 28, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Anything for unity & peace, right? At least can they agree that child abuse is a worthwhile endeavor.
jgapinoy on April 28, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I suppose it’s as likely to be mentioned as anything else. Once you convince yourself that all beliefs other than your own are always evil, everything that happens in the world is proof that Atheism is the only “true” path to spiritual perfection.
Atheism comprises a very tight little theological circle.
logis on April 28, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Oh yes, then they could learn the stories of what the christian god does to bad little children…
Bears, oh my…
2:22 So the waters were healed unto this day, according to the saying of Elisha which he spake.
2:23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
2:24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
Other times that hands on, personal touch is required…
137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
elgeneralisimo on April 28, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Does this mean your not sending your donation? Try getting it in context next time.
Maxx on April 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Do they worship Michael Jackson or something?
aikidoka on April 29, 2008 at 1:29 AM
Yikes!
Those are NOT new born infants! They are too large and old to be new borns. They are more likely a few weeks to a few months old.
Nevertheless, I think our nation has them beat for bizarre rituals. Many in our country actually believe that it is in the child’s best interest to be aborted. That way the child won’t be born and have a horrible life, or be an “unwanted child” (as if those who push such an idiotic reasoning are psychic enough to know who will be an “unwanted child” and who will be a “wanted child” or that even justifies slaughtering babies via abortion.
Also, this is taught to school children and pushed by our culture as a “sacred right.”
So, who’s kidding whom?
Dropping new babies from 50 feet onto a sheet is idiotic and the people who do so are nuts, and our culture, justifying and honoring abortion are even worse!
William2006 on April 29, 2008 at 2:02 AM
The narrator said something about this practice of throwing the baby was done when “the baby was the product of couples who practiced (I couldn’t understand what she said–an unknown word) Anyone know what practice that she is referring to? Just interested
Ragnell on April 29, 2008 at 8:37 AM
No visible, easily detected harm anyway (broken bones). I have serious questions about what that kind of decceleration does to an infant brain. How, exactly, has anyone determined that no harm has come to the infants?
taznar on April 29, 2008 at 10:22 AM