The Wright Stuff: Farrakhan “one of the most important voices” of the last century’ Update: Wright’s security provided by Nation of Islam
posted at 2:50 pm on April 28, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama’s torment continues as more excerpts from Jeremiah Wright’s appearance at the National Press Club today hits the Internet. This question and answer attempts to rehabilitate Louis Farrakhan by pretending that everything negative the Nation of Islam leader said about Jews was meant in the context of Zionism only:
Really? The ADL has a few more quotes than just the 1988 speech that Wright mentions, and a lot more recent as well:
“Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET?… Everything that we built, they have. The mind of Satan now is running the record industry, movie industry and television. And they make us look like we’re the murders; we look like we’re the gangsters, but we’re punk stuff.”
“Justifiable Homicide: Black Youth in Peril (Part 3)” speech at Mosque Maryam, 11/11/07
“The real anti-Semites are those who came out of Europe and settled in Palestine, and now they call themselves the true Jews, when in fact, they converted to Judaism.”
Al Jazeera TV interview, 3/18/07
“These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength…It’s the wicked Jews the false Jews that are promoting Lesbianism, homosexuality. It’s wicked Jews, false Jews that make it a crime for you to preach the word of God, then they call you homophobic!”
Saviours’ Day, Chicago, Illinois, 2/26/06
“I’m not an anti-Semite, I never have been one. I do not hate the Jewish people; put that down! What I hate is the degree of control that they exercise over Black intellectual, cultural expression. I do not think that no human being should determine how high we can go, that can only be determined by God and by us; not by no white man, no black man, no human being [crowd cheers].”
Millions More Movement rally, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 8/31/05
Wright has to be kidding if he thinks that people can’t find Farrakhan’s public speeches on Jews and see for themselves his rampant anti-Semitism. And Team Obama has to wonder when Wright will stop shooting his mouth off in public.
Update (AP): No wonder he’s fond of Farrakhan. The man provides him with his security.
In front of 30 television cameras, Wright’s audience cheered him on as the minister mocked the media and, at one point, did a little victory dance on the podium. It seemed as if Wright, jokingly offering himself as Obama’s vice president, was actually trying to doom Obama; a member of the head table, American Urban Radio’s April Ryan, confirmed that Wright’s security was provided by bodyguards from Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam.
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How sweet it is!
petefrt on April 28, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Gee, I am sure glad I now know how he really feels.
Preach it Reverand, preach, at least intil the convention.
RobCon on April 28, 2008 at 2:55 PM
OMG, what a complete jerk.
He has to be wanting Obama to suffer or something.
Utah Boy on April 28, 2008 at 2:57 PM
So being Black is the color that your enemies make you?
I guess the Rev forgot that God made him, and his skin.
Hening on April 28, 2008 at 2:57 PM
From Joe Klein of Newsweek:
Obama is toast folks…time for Operation Reverse Chaos?
windansea on April 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM
I am starting to feel sorry for Barry. He must be squirming during all of this.
RobCon on April 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Wow. After his last statement, did he give someone a high five. It is as if he is daring whitey to a fight in the school yard.
What a tool. To think anyone would take this man seriously is beyond me.
jharada on April 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Wow. The cynicism is breathtaking.
Jaibones on April 28, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Yeah. He seemed pretty satisfied with himself after that comment, too. The more applause he got, the wilder he got.
mikeyboss on April 28, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Looks like Louis wasn’t the only one to take a ride on the mothership.
trubble on April 28, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Al Sharpton, and the ‘missing’ Jessie Jackson must really hate this guy.
Entelechy on April 28, 2008 at 3:02 PM
I won’t feel sorry for either of those folks.
No way. The hate that is part of their character
deserves no sympathy. One is a racist, the other a marxist.
Neither has anyones best interests at heart besides their own.
old trooper on April 28, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Only if you think this is all new to Barry. It’s hard to think it. A 20 year relationship with his friend, mentor, pastor, and inspiration.
Looks to me like Barry’s chickens are coming home…to roooooooost.
misterpeasea on April 28, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Let’s just crown Hussein and throw all of the whiteys in internment camps. Now we can have some piece.
saved on April 28, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Oh brother, they just keep digging deeper and deeper. But the true believers will stop their ears and turn off their brains and vote for Obama.
Ellen on April 28, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Let’s just crown Hussein and throw all of the whiteys in internment camps. Now we can have some
piecepeace. We really don’t deserve a piece.saved on April 28, 2008 at 3:05 PM
saved on April 28, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Hillpatine is going to win, they’re going to take Obama into the smoke filled room, tell him he’s not ready for prime time, and he’s going to accept VP slot.
we might be screwed.
windansea on April 28, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Rev. Wright does walk the walk…he only rides in black limos…he uses black marble in all his bathrooms…. He’s down with the struggle.
RBMN on April 28, 2008 at 3:07 PM
I think Barry should take a page (allegedly) from Team Hellary….
The next time the junior Senator and his pastor get together for a meeting don’t be surprised if you here Barry say, (whisper) “Ron Brown” (whisper).
/sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 28, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Wright’s the gift that keeps on giving. If I didn’t know better, I’d think that he was campaigning for Clinton or McCain. He’s positioning himself to be the “Race Pimp in Chief”. Sharpton and Jackson must be squirming more than Obama.
orlandocajun on April 28, 2008 at 3:08 PM
You forgot that when is mingling with unwashed he rides in a “blaxi” cab.
/sarc
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 28, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Beautiful! Not only is he taking Bambi down but he is also holding BLT out in the sunlight for everyone to study. Barry may have been right about this being the right time to have a discussion on racial relations, but I doubt he thought it would happen like this.
a capella on April 28, 2008 at 3:09 PM
That’s not chickens coming home to roost. It’s buzzards.
NeighborhoodCatLady on April 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM
and the liberals do not see the connection of
OsamaObama to Islam?custer on April 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM
riding dirty and living the dream. you go Rev Wright
custer on April 28, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Ugh, this guy and Farrakhan.
Typhonsentra on April 28, 2008 at 3:12 PM
This is either the most elaborate Sister Soldjah moment in American political history, or Obama is a f-ing moron. I’m leaning towards the latter.
spmat on April 28, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Be pretty hard for the Barry groupies to accept runner up, not to mention Michelle.
a capella on April 28, 2008 at 3:13 PM
You get the feeling that Wright DOESN’T want Obama to be President?
I mean geez, why doesn’t he shut the heck up?
drjohn on April 28, 2008 at 3:13 PM
I’m starting to wonder if they knew about this background stuff and that’s why they kept their distance from Obama from the beginning.
RushBaby on April 28, 2008 at 3:15 PM
For a guy who looks thiw white, that’s really ironic.
I sense this is just the beginning of lots of unrest in this country. The media are not condemning this, they are adding to the storm.
Entelechy on April 28, 2008 at 3:17 PM
RushBaby on April 28, 2008 at 3:15 PM
They have the rights to race and don’t want anymore competition!
dmann on April 28, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Rove, you magnificent bastard.
Other statements might be able to be explained away by being on the receiving end of racism, but this one shows he is a complete wacko.
rbj on April 28, 2008 at 3:21 PM
There has got to be a photo of Obama wearing a bowtie somewhere. We need to find that photo!
Buddahpundit on April 28, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Black Liberation theology is the question and answer.
Get informed!
Randy
williars on April 28, 2008 at 3:23 PM
People who are selling this country to make themselves “feel good” eat this kind of stuff up.
TroubledMonkey on April 28, 2008 at 3:25 PM
I watch more of those videos at the Red Lasso site. They’re all about the same. He acts like a kid playing some kind of game where he’s the smartest person in the room, and everyone’s trying to get him with a “gotcha” question.
In one he complains that the government has never officially apologized for slavery.
Is he under the impression that this government or any other “European” government created slavery? Does he not realize that if his ancestors came here through a slave ship that they were already slaves over in Africa?
Does he want an apology from the African tribes who sold blacks to America?
Esthier on April 28, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Yes. If Her Majesty gets the nod in Denver it’ll occur there. If Barry gets the nod, it’ll come during and after the general election. Tie that to the Detroit mayoral mess, Sharpton, Jackson, the Black Congressional Caucus, BLT and the black ministers who are selling it,…there is going to be some major disruption.
a capella on April 28, 2008 at 3:26 PM
I watched this thing this morning and felt like I was having an out-of-body experience… I just couldn’t believe what I was hearing and seeing. This man tries to pass himself off as a learned scholar of scripture when in fact his application of the material is woefully inept. What’s more — HE’S A NUT! I thought I was watching an SNL skit. I also liked how he passed on a question about Bill Clinton’s remarkes throughout the campaign because he was not there to make “political” statements, yet he was all to happy to mention Vice President Cheney in a quip about military service, or lack thereof. What an a-hole.
D2Boston on April 28, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Go Jerry, Go, Go!
I wonder if Louis rang Jeremiah up and gave him advice as to what to tell the American people about his controversial statements.
This is from the wiki page on Louis Farrakhan.
Buy Danish on April 28, 2008 at 3:27 PM
It’s not self-aggrandizement, IMHO. I think Wright is trying to act as Obama’s accountability mentor. It’s something several of our churches have done, where groups of men/friends form small groups to help them live up to their own standards of Christian husbands and fathers. The guys remind each other of the high standards and philosophies that they subscribe to and provide support and correction when needed.
Obama has told Wright for 20 years that his ideals match with Wright’s, and that Obama will fight for those ideas when elected. I think Wright is just trying to hold Obama to the philosophy that he espoused for so many years.
funky chicken on April 28, 2008 at 3:27 PM
You’re probably right. If this were a setup for a “Sister Soldjah moment” it would have happened already, or maybe Obama would have decided to take Hillary up on her debate pledge to get an opportunity to do it in front of everyone. Instead, he’s hiding from the media. It’s at the point where denunciation of Wright will lead people to ask why he didn’t do so sooner, when Wright’s arguably more inflammatory remaks came to light. There’s not a whole lot he can do about Wright anymore.
Big S on April 28, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Let them tell us again how they’re not Islamic.
drjohn on April 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM
yep
funky chicken on April 28, 2008 at 3:30 PM
He doesn’t want Obama to tank. This fella believes we are at the dawn of of a new age. Call it ‘Rub-it-in-your-face age’. We are to be humbled and led to the promised land.
Just another profit with no answers when He starts asking why.
Limerick on April 28, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Check out the comments at Milbank’s blog, linked in the AP update above. Hoo-eeee!!
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/roughsketch/2008/04/obamas_pastor_reignites_race_c.html
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 28, 2008 at 3:32 PM
We’re not painting you as anything. We are drawing attention to the fact that you are a racist piece of shit. Basically we’re holding a big magnifying glass up to you and letting you speak.
Chump.
Oh yeah, and my favorite? Louis Farrakhan is one of the most important voices of the 20th century?
Bwahahahahahaaaaa. It’s funnier because you’re serious.
Haahaaa
Geronimo on April 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Looks like the “Crazy Uncle” isn’t going to go away quietly. Could this be a strike back at Obama?
Misbehaving children often ratchet up the volume until you pay attention to them again. Or correct them.
Wonder what Barrys gonna do with this?
CBarker on April 28, 2008 at 3:34 PM
With allies like Wright, Obama truly needs no enemies.
MB4 on April 28, 2008 at 3:34 PM
hmmmmm….nobody ever said Jesse was stupid.
I think the more we see of Wright, the less likely it becomes that we will see Obama on a Hillary ticket as veep. This really is electoral poison. Hillary has high enough negatives on her own without acting like she approves of Wright’s lunatic rantings by offering to share a ticket with his acolyte.
funky chicken on April 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM
He does not bother me as much as Hagee, saw him again Sunday morning with his Zionist pushing. Wanting to protect Israel is one thing, but saying that the justification lies in a book written by people who thought the earth is flat…and then saying that those flat earthers then predicted the end of the worlds because of a hallucination in the last chapter is beyond retardation. Of course the ones pushing it really don’t believe it. Must be a shortage of straightjackets.
LevStrauss on April 28, 2008 at 3:36 PM
How could any Christian minister support Louis Farrakhan? If you believe Christian theology, you must believe Farrakhan is leading people straight to hell as his faith denys the divinity of Christ. Surely you would have to believe that the eternal salvation of your fellow man is more important than any earthly gains for the African-American community made by Farrakhan leading people away from Christ. This leads to the only possible conclusion that Wright and his church cannot possibly be considered Christian. This point needs to be made as often as possible.
Buford on April 28, 2008 at 3:36 PM
the thing you guys are getting is that the people on the left don’t really care. Except for the old timer souther dem-ah-crats…but they’re a dying breed to say the least.
beefytee on April 28, 2008 at 3:36 PM
From Ace:
Wright Makes News! At this morning’s press conference, Wright puts some meat on the bones of Obama’s calls for “real change.”
Change you can believe in? No thanks, Barry. If you love Marxism so much, I suggest you and the family move on down to Venezuela or Bolivia or Paraguay and give it a shot in real life.
funky chicken on April 28, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Wright wants to be the NEXT Farrakhan. He wants the popularity and the notoriety. He loves the spotlight.
O/T – If he is doing this to sink Obama, will he then be accused of promoting riots in Denver?
PappaMac on April 28, 2008 at 3:39 PM
The good reverend is giving BO a lesson on where the real power sits. It’s clear to me that BO joined this church for street cred and now the good reverend is sending the message to BO that I made you and I can break you. This damage is permanent and lasting, hence BO’s appearance as a moderate yesterday on Fox, or, “fix news” as the rev would say.
This is going to get real ugly real quick and further splinter the dem party, sawing the black vote in half.
swami on April 28, 2008 at 3:39 PM
In light of all this, is there any chance Hillary doesnt stay in to the bitter end? That may not be so bitter after all for her if this keeps up?
Dash on April 28, 2008 at 3:40 PM
BHO and the donks have to be soiling their pants. This guy is beautiful. Defending screwy Louie won’t sit well with the Jewish vote or any level headed voter.
Hitlary must be smiling from ear to ear.
libhater on April 28, 2008 at 3:40 PM
America lives regardless of this dirtbag.
Did anyone watch ‘Carrier’? The Command Master Chief, the head ’shooter’, the young lady who fled her inner city home and is now a petty officer? All had a simple philosophy, I get what I earn. God bless em. Whatever obsticles that this so called ’satan’ was throwing in their path they took buy the horns and kicked it’s ass. There are some mentors for you Mr Obama. Try them sometime, you might be proud of them.
Limerick on April 28, 2008 at 3:42 PM
How do you know that they aren’t both racists and marxists?
MarkTheGreat on April 28, 2008 at 3:43 PM
The Reverend Wright is Hillary’s best campaign strategy. All she has to do is keep her, and Bill’s, mouth shut and find a way for this guy to talk in front of the press “every” day.
PappaMac on April 28, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Obama should just go away and not come back. Guilt by association.
Geronimo on April 28, 2008 at 3:44 PM
The Great and Mighty Obamassiah:
Red Pill on April 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Clinton had bimbo eruptions. Barry has crack-pot eruptions.
RobCon on April 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 28, 2008 at 3:32 PM
My favorite!
dmann on April 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM
if Barry tells them its ok they’ll go along with it
If Hill squeaks out a win she’ll have to offer VP to Obama or lose the black vote, it’s a quagmire
windansea on April 28, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Some Obamists, like Joe Klein, now say that Wright is intentionally trying to destroy Obama’s candidacy.
It does seem like it. Think about that.
Rather than lie low and be subdued indefinitely into the future, Wright is prancing around and being himself, going over the top, with obvious joyous feeling of release, talking his crackpot shtick, also saying that he’ll go after Obama if Obama becomes President.
Couldn’t Wright’s current words and behavior be in order to make it easier for Obama to sever their ties? Then they can be free of each other, and Wright can reap lots of financial rewards. I suspect that that’s where this all is headed.
ForNow on April 28, 2008 at 3:50 PM
That was probably part of the reason, but judging from Obama’s race-obsessed books and his America-denigrating wife and friends (e.g., Ayers), I’d bet that Obama shares a lot more of Wright’s views that he’d ever be willing to admit to in public.
AZCoyote on April 28, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Black Liberation Theology = HATE
Rev. J. Wright = HATE
Enough said.
byteshredder on April 28, 2008 at 3:56 PM
If only dave742 were here to let us know what the Reverend Wright really meant by all this. You know. To put it all in nuancy context. Wouldn’t want this theologian — this … this scholar — to be misunderstood, what with all his highfalutin rhetoric going right over my head, right brain and all.
shazbat on April 28, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Apparently many of Wrights supporters are karate kicking thugs and big mouth crack-pots.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=1578
RobCon on April 28, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Having visions of reparation bills landing on President Barry’s desk.
Limerick on April 28, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Indeed. I think both of them are racist Marxists. And neither is Christian. Having security provided by Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam is a HUGE giveaway.
A candidate most certainly does not have to be Christian to run for President, but if they are going to publicly claim to be Christian (in order to win more votes) then I think we have every right to ask them to prove it by publicly confessing “Jesus is Lord”.
Red Pill on April 28, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Fixed.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 28, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Having visions of reparation bills landing on President Barry’s desk.
Limerick on April 28, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I agree and posted that opinion on this site when the primaries started way back when. The only question was the amount of the check.
swami on April 28, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Worse. He’s trying to become the next Jessie Jackson. And I’ll give you ten to one he pulls it off.
Squiggy on April 28, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Obama, the Great Uniter. The candidate who transcends race, and will bring us all together.
If it weren’t so funny, it would be sad.
AZCoyote on April 28, 2008 at 4:08 PM
I really don’t see any of that “love your neighbor as yourself” coming from the good Rev. Wright. Is that commandment not is his Bible?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM
This douchebag is an attention-whore… Why is anyone paying attention to this guy when the issue is not how crazy or racist this sack of human filth is but rather BHO’s judgment and is cozy relationship with him. I could give a rat’s A__ about this bigot.
Claypigeon on April 28, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Looks like someone is setting himself up to be the leader of the Obama Outrage 08 movement…something that doesn’t materialize if Obama is the white man’s nominee. Rev Wright engineering a media coup at the height of Obama’s popularity thus might serve a greater strategic goal to bring about real and abrupt societal change as we saw in the 60s. Did he calculate that a suddenly soft-spoken candidate who disowns his black radical faith and friends suddenly can’t be trusted to be “the one we’ve been waiting for”?
econavenger on April 28, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Read and investigate: read more.
The Rev. Wright represents a “victimized” constituency. He has been stung by Obama’s repudiations. he is pxxxxx.
Randy
williars on April 28, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Obama’s “coalition” is done for. He isn’t going to get too far without Jewish and non-limolib whites.
Howard Dean has some work ahead of him. Yargh!
forest on April 28, 2008 at 4:20 PM
The thing that disgusts me is all of the clapping and standing ovations. The victim mentality is on the level of BDS.
Les in NC on April 28, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Time for a…uh… 17th look at Hillary!!!
Good grief. This guy is becoming my hero. We have a candidate in Maverick without the genetic makeup to criticize his Dim opponents. And now he doesn’t have to! Woo hoooo! Preach reverend, preach!
You deserve every square foot of that multi-million dollar, gated-white-community mansion your church is buying you!
Sugar Land on April 28, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Obama’s head is going to explode, and McCain just may light the fuse.
Hillary’s camp should be giving money to Wright’s church, Rev. Wright, an answer to Hillary’s prayers, who says there is no God?
right2bright on April 28, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Don’t be patronizing, of course we know that, left won’t turn right…however, we know there is a vast number of fence sitters, those are the ones who will make the difference in this election (do you think 97% of the black vote will win the election?), and they don’t like this racist junk…and this makes the joooos very nervous, and rightly so, the left libs are moving towards that Jews are the root of all evil. You either support the republicans, or the democrats if you are a Jew, and the dems want you destroyed…even with that the Jews are liberal, but the tide is changing. Yes Obama is a change of direction—back about 50 years.
right2bright on April 28, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Wright evidently realized he had a choice: repudiate or put a gloss on his earlier statements but otherwise be schtum and low-profile and thereby increase his old friend and parishioner’s chance of getting the nomination, or extend his moment of national fame at Obama’s expense by saying as much crazy stuff as possible as publicly as possible.
exlibris on April 28, 2008 at 4:49 PM
He’s in good shape. If Obama wins, he’s in the driver seat. If he loses, he’s got the best mantra to ride on. The herd will oblige him, with gusto.
Entelechy on April 28, 2008 at 4:51 PM
NEWS FLASH:
As Rev. Wright was getting into a limo this afternoon, he was hit in the face with a cream pie. When aids rushed to wipe him with dampened towels, to their surprise, the blackface came off, revealing a red faced, pudgy white man.
Karl Rove could not be reached for comment.
Syd B. on April 28, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Obama supporters have already decided to pay no mind to the Wright association (or Ayers etc.) This stuff just seems to have minimal effect on his poll numbers. It doesn’t matter if this stuff keeps on comin’. It blows my mind.
Hunt035 on April 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Anyone think that Rev. Wright could make a great Chef on South Park?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Not surprising. It’s called “cult of personality”.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 28, 2008 at 4:56 PM
The whole idea that a pastor answers to God for what he says, but a politician answers to the voters is pretty weak preaching. What happens when the politician faces Judgement? Sounds more like taqiyya to me.
pedestrian on April 28, 2008 at 5:02 PM
The Reverend Wright is neither “reverent” nor “right”…
Jonas Parker on April 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM
This stuff is so insane.
IN FRICKIN SANE!
benrand on April 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM
They are replaying some clips from this morning on our local news. AGAIN, I must ask, WTF is a “spiritual advisor” if it’s not your pastor (Barry does claim to be Christian, no?)
What’s wrong w/me that I’m actually warming up to being OK with HillBill getting the nomination?
Dubn8tr on April 28, 2008 at 5:05 PM
If I Don’t Succeed Then You Won’t Either
Years ago, my first out-of-college job was a temporary stop onto another career, but provided an experience of intensive contact with African-American street kids and their families.
I remember my frustration when the success of one student would draw hostility from their peers and outright attempts to sabotage their potential rise. One day, the department head, an older black women, told a story to help me understand the dynamics of street culture:
A man encountered an old fisherman with a bucket full of crabs on the way to the market. The bucket lacked a lid and the crabs were attempting to crawl out. The man admonished the old fisherman that he was about to lose the crabs fighting to get out. The old man laughed and replied; “Buddy these crabs ain’t goin nowhere”. The other man insisted, “no, look right there, one is almost over the top”. The fisherman explained: “every time one of these crabs gets its leg over the top– another one reaches up with a claw and draws it right on back down with the rest of them”.
Ragnell on April 28, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Please don’t forget that blacks only make up about 20% of the country. How many of those 20% vote?
kcd on April 28, 2008 at 5:21 PM
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