Bitter Bible-clingers know: You reap what you sow
posted at 10:34 am on April 26, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The Democratic Party has an identity-politics meltdown on its hands, and right now it looks like nothing will stop it. The clash between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has core constituencies of the party in a game of chicken, and neither side wants to swerve. The movers and shakers worry about reconciling the intraparty rift that has become increasingly bitter, but they may need to worry about how the rest of the nation sees the party in the general election:
The protracted and increasingly acrimonious fight for the Democratic presidential nomination is unnerving core constituencies — African Americans and wealthy liberals — who are becoming convinced that the party could suffer irreversible harm if Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton maintains her sharp line of attack against Sen. Barack Obama.
Clinton’s solid win in the Pennsylvania primary exposed a quandary for the party. Her backers may be convinced that only she can win the white, working-class voters that the Democratic nominee will need in the general election, but many African American leaders say a Clinton nomination — handed to her by superdelegates — would result in a disastrous breach with black voters.
“If this party is perceived by people as having gone into a back room somewhere and brokered a nominee, that would not be good for our party,” House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (S.C.), the highest ranking African American in Congress, warned yesterday. “I’m telling you, if this continues on its current course, [the damage] is going to be irreparable.”
That fear, plus a more general sense that Clinton’s only route to victory would be through tearing down her opponent, has led even some black Democrats who are officially neutral in the race, such as Clyburn, to speak out. …
Campaigning for Clinton in Gary, Ind., yesterday, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (Ohio), who is black, said she does not share her colleagues’ concerns. “I don’t think Bill and Hillary Clinton will ‘do anything’ to win this election,” she said. “They are trying to be successful, but I disagree they will do anything or they are trying to hurt Barack Obama.” She added that black voters “are not a monolith, and we recognize the importance of this election.”
This primary has demonstrated the endgame of identity politics, perhaps even worse in real life than it did in theory. Democrats have exploited racial and gender politics for decades, but the irony is that it only succeeds when the groups don’t compete directly against each other. Once they do, the party has to stop pandering to one or the other, and the animus they stoked gets turned onto their coalition partners instead of the Republicans.
Under a rational primary system, this would have resolved itself by now, or at least by the end of the voting. However, Democrats a generation ago decided that they couldn’t trust voters to select a nominee any more than they could trust Americans to choose their diet or take responsibility for their own health care. They created a system where voters only account for 80% of the delegates to the convention, leaving the party establishment with the deciding vote in any close contest.
And what does that mean? It means the party will have to select a favorite between its two biggest identity-politics constituencies, women and African-Americans. In fact, with the pressure party bigwigs and money rainmakers have put on Hillary to withdraw, they’ve already made that choice. Unfortunately, Hillary refuses to withdraw and now got $10 million in small-donor contributions within 24 hours of her Pennsylvania victory.
On several levels, the Democrats are reaping what they have sown over the last forty years. For those in the Democratic Party who don’t get that reference — one familiar to the bitter Bible-clingers — it’s akin to chickens coming home to roost.
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This is as much fun as watching the Super Bowl. Good color commentary, Ed.
mikeyboss on April 26, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Very well said. It will be fun to sit back and watch the Democrats implode.
katieanne on April 26, 2008 at 10:44 AM
The democrat belief system is unmasked for what it is. Power lust can only hide behind victimization pandering for so long. The victims will soon wake and revolt when they see other victims getting their gruel. When you carve out niche groups and fashion policy and platform specifically for that group, you cannot be surprised when the other niches revolt…. especially after you’ve consistently fed their victimization in the past.
Cold Steel on April 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM
What if Hillary wins the popular vote and Barack wins in the
smoke filled back room deal?
Chakra Hammer on April 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Is it ThreeMile Island, or Chernobyl?
p40tiger on April 26, 2008 at 10:46 AM
“Chickens coming home to roost.” Nancy Pelosi thinks that’s a Bible verse. Watch for her to use it next Earth Day.
windbag on April 26, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Well said, Ed. Well said.
Troy Rasmussen on April 26, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Democrats are NOT a party of the the people, as in “WE THE PEOPLE..”
Them using the name “Democrat” or “Democratic” is BS by the way that they behave.
Chakra Hammer on April 26, 2008 at 10:49 AM
My take on this fiasco is that if Clinton wins, she gets Obama in the # 2 spot and becomes undefeatable. Obam wins, Clinton tells him to shove the v.p. and the bast-rd goes down in defeat.
I’m voting straight ticket but screaming in protest. McCain is an a$$.
leanright on April 26, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Ed, what is your take on the ‘dream ticket’ scheme?
Limerick on April 26, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Nicely put, Ed.
I’m betting Hillary is going to take this right to the convention as part of her scorched earth policy. She might well topdeck the entire party.
Ares on April 26, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Well,….that’s different. It’s done for the good of the country. Helps heal racial strife and all that.
a capella on April 26, 2008 at 10:59 AM
If Obama gets the nod and loses in the general, I wonder how close the ranks of people who will ascribe the loss purely to “bigotry” will get to “Rodney King Part Deux”.
If Obama loses considerably, it will be harder to get some “action” going. If it like Bush and Gore in 2000, I think the ride is going to be bumpy.
Of course the Demorat leadership could help here…maybe…but they won’t, they will vote their self-interest and screw what happens later.
The Dems absolutely have painted themselves into a corner however it ends up. The country will lose from their half-cleverness. The Dems will get what they deserve, but they will take the rest of us along for the ride.
Just like Mugabe and Zimbzbwe.
Harry Schell on April 26, 2008 at 11:09 AM
F… It, McCain ‘08
But, if he opens his mouth one more time attacking the Conservatives, I am out.
trs on April 26, 2008 at 11:11 AM
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“If this party is perceived by people as having gone into a back room somewhere and brokered a nominee, that would not be good for our party,” House Majority Whip James E. Clyburn (S.C.), the highest ranking African American in Congress, warned yesterday.
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What if Hillary wins the popular vote and Barack wins in the
smoke filled back room deal?
Chakra Hammer on April 26, 2008 at 10:45 AM
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Long story short, even if a “dream ticket” scenario can be worked out, somebodys’ supporters will be pissed and one major coalition will show up weak in November.
The problem is, both Shrillary and Obambi have a “victory narrative”, that is they both can explain to the supers why they’re the only one who can win in November, so should be the nominee. They’ve also told their followers (supporters is too weak, perhaps “partisans”?) that their narrative is true and that the other persons’ is false.
In a “dream ticket” whichever one has to play second banana will have only a couple months at most for their supporters to get through the “stages of grief”, i.e. denial, anger, etc. over being shoved into a second-tier role.
Would Obambi take it? Unsure. He may try to Nixon, that is, go back to Illinois, back into the Senate, and try again in 2012. Spend some time in the wilderness.
Would Shrillary take it? Equally unsure. It’s a better position to run for President from than her Senate seat has proven to be, and she’d be in the White House… just not top banana.
The awful beauty of the Dems’ playing both the race and gender cards for so long is that enough partisans truly believe these narratives; neither can give in, and whoever plays second banana would have a very hard time easing their partisans’ anger enough to win in November.
The best scenario is for Obambi, if he wins, to name a non-Shrillary female with experience in the oval office (not Monica!) as veep.
The best scenario for Shrillary is to name a non-Obambi Black with either good domestic or (ideally) good international skills.
Mew
acat on April 26, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Thanks acat….gives me another perspective to wrap my head around.
Limerick on April 26, 2008 at 11:25 AM
No reason for Hillary to drop out now. She is watching Obama self-destruct. Every week, the Apostle of Hopechange opens his mouth and inserts his size 12 wingtip into it. Each new revelation about him and each new verbal faux pas attaches another leech to his anemic campaign. His salvation will be if Hillary starts flapping her gums again and unleashes some more whoppers – or if Bubba goes all race-victim.
whitetop on April 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM
These people who hate the back room win for Hillary fail to mention that Obama cannot win without superdelegates. When Hillary does it, it’s smoke filled back rooms when Messiah does it, it’s the will of the people as expressed by superdelegates in smoke filled back rooms?
snaggletoothie on April 26, 2008 at 11:33 AM
John 16:3 –
“And these things they will do because they have not known the Father nor Me.”
Right_of_Attila on April 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Ya think??! They should be worried about that now, but these two candidates are both so worried about winning it for themselves they can’t see past that point.
Yep, I don’t think the Dhimms are capable of seeing this country as a whole anymore and they’re tearing it into pieces.
4shoes on April 26, 2008 at 11:44 AM
I got it. Kill two birds with one stone. The Dems ought to draft Maxine Waters for President in Denver.
Please, pretty please.
Hummer53 on April 26, 2008 at 11:48 AM
By examining the public comments of Mr. Clyburn, one comes to understand where he’s coming from immediately.
If you identify the policies and platform of the Democratic party with the needs of “blok-voting” black America, great damage is being done right now, with half of the Democratic party branding the other half racist, and the other half branding their opponents as sexist and racist.
If you identify the policies and platform of the party with the back room smoke (which is why superdelegates were invented in the first place), no damage whatsoever has been done, and possibly a lot of good.
unclesmrgol on April 26, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Let me get this straight. Obama Democrats are urging that, if at the end of the day, Obama has more delegates than Clinton, that he should get the nomination. On the other hand, if Clinton owns the popular vote, she could make the same case. I have that about right?
Since when have Democrats been concerned with the legitimacy of using election representatives, primary delegates, to get their guy in? Gee, that’s strange because Democrats whined after 2000 to eliminate the Electoral College, a body similar in principle to primary delegates, on account of Gore winning the popular vote, but losing in electoral votes. Now many Democrats are making the opposite claim, a claim in favor of using voter representation over the popular vote for their candidate to win.
Why am I not surprised by this? (Rhetorical)
Weebork on April 26, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Just another page in the book of unintended consequences penned in the language of utter predictability. I saw this train wreck coming in 2004.
Beto Ochoa on April 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM
CHOMP. CHOMP. CHOMP. That’s the sound of me eating popcorn.
rightwingprof on April 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM
At the end of the day, if you really want racism and sexism to die, you must first let go of it yourself. When your entire view of reality is described in terms of race or ethnicity and gender demography, then you’ve only repainted the problem in a warmer color. When your definition of policy problems are always in terms of class and race and gender, and your policy prescriptions always target one class or race or gender at the expense of another, you’ve made the problems worse and cemented your own dependence on its perpetuity.
I want to be part of a movement that sees the world in terms of ideas and beliefs, without reference to race or gender or class. I want to be judged by MY actions, not by those of my co-religionists or my racial peers or my gender peers. Let Democrats loose themselves in that thicket. For my part, I want to see all of us just let it go!
Lew on April 26, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Hillary and Obama are SDS, no difference there.
ESCHEW THEM.
Hillary @ Yale worked to defend a Black Panther leader who had his own kill one of their own. She figured this volunteer work entitled her to the black vote until BHO confronted her on the trail.
The DNC racist chickens are coming home to roost.
So who gets to play the rooster?
Coming ’round the mountain,
now seems like a bad time to be old and red.
maverick muse on April 26, 2008 at 12:01 PM
Exactly what I think is going to happen. Then, hopefully, most of Hillary’s people will stay home or vote for McCain.
I expect McCain’s surrogates to keep the fact that SHE won the popular vote in the forefront of her votes view in the battleground states.
talking_mouse on April 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM
They created a system where voters only account for 80% of the delegates to the convention, leaving the
party establishmentpolitboro with the deciding vote in any close contest.peacenprosperity on April 26, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Superdelegates, kind of like whats going on in the Iran elections right now.
2theright on April 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Touche’.
Buy Danish on April 26, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Obama is looking like Tom Brady in the 4Q of Superbowl last.
bloviator on April 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Just shows how dependent the Democrat party is on the black vote. In fact, with a woman and a black man, it almost typifies the perception that the Democrats are the party of minorities and the aggrieved. My only regret is that this isn’t a three-way race with a hispanic (Richarson?) involved.
NNtrancer on April 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM
If you look at the names of the US presidents in the 20 and 21st centuries, almost all are one or two syllable anglo-saxon names. (Taft, Wilson, Harding, Cooledge, Hoover, Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton.) The only exceptions are Kennedy, Roosevelt and Eisenhower, all war heroes. (At least Teddy was.) The point is, the public sees the president as representing who this country is, and for most Americans, it’s the country of the founding fathers, not the country of the immigrant with the strange name. Of course, the ethnic makeup of this country is changing and perhaps it’s time that the way we perceive ourselves changes too.
NNtrancer on April 26, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Topdeck? I thought she was going to kneecap them.
SeniorD on April 26, 2008 at 1:08 PM
And how did Dean contribute to this debacle? By disenfranchising Michigan and Florida. It’s a valid point that Hillary kicked Obama’s butt in Florida by so much in popular vote that she is neck-and-neck with the Chicago used-car salesman overall.
Obama wins red states. Hillary wins blue.
What a purple pickle they have on their hands.
John the Libertarian on April 26, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people!
Bawhaaahahhh!
second digit on April 26, 2008 at 2:04 PM
…munch…munch…munch…
29Victor on April 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Ed, the problems go deeper.
Democrats are basically the Seinfeld — “Jackie Childs” coalition. Republicans the “Al Bundy” coalition.
In the major cities, Dems win because there are not many Al Bundy’s. Al Bundy moved out decades ago to the suburbs. In many states, there’s enough, sometimes barely enough, votes in the major urban centers for Jackie Childs and Jerry Seinfeld to beat Al Bundy.
In a national election, this is reversed. Even when candidates are good or bad. I don’t think Gore was that terrible a candidate, nor even Kerry. But they couldn’t overcome the vote disparity between Al Bundy and Jerry Seinfeld/Jackie Childs.
The Democratic Party in 1968 decided they were way too cool for Al Bundy, and threw him out of the party. They are now reaping the fruits of that decision, as they usually do without someone who is very gifted (Bill Clinton in 1992, rather than the man he is now) or the opposition has been very stupid (post Watergate Jimmy Carter).
whiskey_199 on April 26, 2008 at 4:12 PM
If Hillary is the Dem nominee, and Huckabee, by the grace of God, is the Republican nominee, Christian people with dark skin would likely vote Republican in large numbers.
Red Pill on April 26, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Bravo, Ed, you are simply the best!
Red Pill on April 26, 2008 at 8:46 PM
2008 appears to be the year of pulling back the curtain and revealing the truth about the great and mighty Oz…
It’s happening to the Democrat party.
It’s happening to the Darwinists.
It’s happening to Planned Parenthood.
It’s happening to the Anthropogenic Global Warming fanatics.
Red Pill on April 26, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Well put, Ed.
How ironic:
In the same election year that was predicted to be a disaster for Republicans…
In the same election year that McCain somehow won the nomination after sticking his finger in the eye of the very people who should have been his most reliable constituents…
In the same election year that Hillary Clinton FINALLY did what everyone had been expecting her to do for 8 years, and ran for office…
In the same election year that Hillary hoped to wrap up the election at least partly with identity politics (vote for the WOMAN!)…
… we get Obama running a credible campaign for the Democratic nomination, going after a totally different identity politics (vote for the AFRICAN-AMERICAN!), and effectively canceling out Hillary Clinton’s identity politics.
I never expected McCain to have a shot at winning, because he insulted what should have been his base the last time he ran, and politicians who do that destroy their chances. But between his two opponents, he just might win.
Someone’s gotta say it:
Rove, you magnificent bastard!
theregoestheneighborhood on April 26, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I think I’d have to argue based on Hollywood that this is no longer true. Actors with minority-sounding names used to have to pick “stage names” for themselves to sound more like middle-America. Now, virtually no one bothers to change his or her name.
Just ask Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.
theregoestheneighborhood on April 26, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Another objective of Operation Chaos achieved…
golfer1 on April 27, 2008 at 5:47 AM
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