How seriously can we take Mbeki

Not even vaguely seriously. Africa love a strongman like Mugabe – Mbeki is an emasculated coward.

WWOS?

(What Would Oprah Say?)

PattyJ on April 25, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Vote Obama. Only the poster boy for arrogant upper-class black liberal elitism can possibly solve the problems with rampant racism, warfare, and tribalism in Africa.

Vote Obama crackers! Do it now!

(That wasn’t on tape, was it?)

/Oprah.

The president of South Africa publicly supported Mugabe, removing his lips from Mugabe’s backside only long enough to proclaim that “no crisis” existed in Zimbabwe.

WWOS?

(What Would Oprah Say?)

—warning— you may consider this racist.

After much research and critical thinking, I have come to the firm conclusion that the black man is unable to rule a nation unassisted. Surely there are great black leaders and accomplished men, but blacks cannot, unassisted, bring a country to prosperity. And if they suddenly posses a prosperous nation they run it into the ground.

Dark-Star on April 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

Nope, it is just pure liberal policy in action that caused Zimbabwe to fail.

just like here
Detroit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM
Philly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzPT2PGlPH4

—warning— you may consider this racist.

After much research and critical thinking, I have come to the firm conclusion that the black man is unable to rule a nation unassisted. Surely there are great black leaders and accomplished men, but blacks cannot, unassisted, bring a country to prosperity. And if they suddenly posses a prosperous nation they run it into the ground.

Dark-Star on April 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

Yep. Racist. All that focus on skin color.

Mind you, the anecdotal evidence you list could also support the hypothesis that there is something intrinsically wrong with the local culture on The Dark Continent…let’s see…Tribalism, redistributionalist policies, totalitarian impulses, “big man” leadership, government projects as ego-boosters rather than to benefit the nation, notion that participation in government leads to participation in profits…yes, there’s a lot of cultural issues that have lead to Africa being the backward region that it is.

But it’s not because of black men — after all, these are pretty much defining characteristics of Democrats here in the US.

They probably want to get their hands on the photographs taken by MDC members of the polling station results posted in each precinct. Those photos prove that Morgan Tsvangirai won the election, and it has kept Mugabe from creating fictional numbers to steal yet another election in Zimbabwe.

Hopefully the photographs in their offices (if they were there) weren’t the only copies. If Zimbabwe’s internet access is anything like it was when I was there a few years ago, digital pictures would be too large to send out. If they are hard-copy pictures, lets just hope they got the film out of the country to a friendly party.

“The President of South Africa issued the following statement this morning following press reports of arrests in Zimbabwe.

Mr. Mbeki views with concern the reports of ongoing violence in Zimbabwe. “Opposition reports are unconfirmed” he said, “and we regard it as unhelpful that foreign media, who are not on the scene, continue to repeat unsubstantiated rumours. Our preference would be that these reports, which continue to concern us, be constrained so that they may no longer concern us.” He added “Imagine what these “journalists” would report if they were actually permitted to be inside Zimbabwe!”

Mr. Mbeki observed that the recount procedure is being undertaken despite the logistical difficulties involved. He said he was aware of suggestions that the delays in the recount are the result of breakdowns of government printing presses which have overheated (from the printing of currency) and are therefore unable to print fresh ballots and characterized such remarks as “unhelpful”.

Mr. Mbeki also commented on the run-off election which he said ought to be allowed to continue. He said that comments by analysts to the effect that, in the absence of official results, it was impossible to assess whether a run-off was actually merited as “agenda-driven”. He also indicated his disappointment in the rejection of his suggestion of a national unity government with President Mugabe at its head. “Commentators who suggest that Zimbabweans voted in droves against Mr. Mugabe and that, in effect, the real national unity government is the MDC are doing so in the absence of the official results. Their remarks are, therefore scurrilous.”

Mr. Mbeki concluded that this is not the time for precipitous action. “We must wait and be paitient” he counselled. “Don’t worry. Be happy.”

What do you think? Do I get the job?

Does anyone here have communications with the MDC? If so, they need to understand the potential to focus world attention through that photographic evidence.

And as a sidenote, I have never read Mein Kampf and never intend to.

After much research and critical thinking, I have come to the firm conclusion that the black man is unable to rule a nation unassisted. Surely there are great black leaders and accomplished men, but blacks cannot, unassisted, bring a country to prosperity. And if they suddenly posses a prosperous nation they run it into the ground.
– Dark-Star

You’re right, I do consider that racist. I also think that not much critical thinking went into that rambling discourse, or that if that’s what passes for critical thinking for you, you might want to read a book or two other than Mien Kampf.

Just a thought.

But there I go thinking evil thoughts again. Order out of chaos isn’t in anyones best interest, is it?

—warning— you may consider this racist.

After much research and critical thinking, I have come to the firm conclusion that the black man is unable to rule a nation unassisted. Surely there are great black leaders and accomplished men, but blacks cannot, unassisted, bring a country to prosperity. And if they suddenly posses a prosperous nation they run it into the ground.

For evidence I first point to the continent in general. Human beings of all colors have had ~6000 years to get their acts together and build a civilization. Knowledge in general was once almost nonexistent from king to peasant. Most Africans remained illiterate, ignorant, and fearful of malignant spirits around every bush until missionaries came on the scene and risked their lives to help them. Only a few notable all-black civilizations (like the Isonghee) have been observed in the Dark Continent and none of them left behind much of interest – where are the great structures and massive fortresses that so many other once-great civilizations left behind?

As poor as the African accomplishment record is on it’s own…it is far worse when they took over countries formerly ruled by whites. Zimbabwe was once the jewel of grain-growing for all of Africa. Now it is the all-time inflation record holder and a joke to the world. South Africa’s apartheid was unfair…but the ‘Rainbow Nation’ is a dangerous cesspool to everyone in general and whites in particular. Their industries are dying and their leaders are corrupt beyond comprehension.

After the minority was forced out, as it should have been, Mugabe took control and has managed to turn a once prosperous and relatively peaceful country into one of the world’s premier hell holes. The left in our country participated in the destabilization of Zimbabwe/Rhodesia with the same politics of identity that they are using to dismember America. The elite Donks in our country think that they can live in their enclaves and avoid most the mess that they are creating. This is not Zimbabwe however and some of us will not let them off the hook so easily.

At some point, Africa has to quit seeing everything through the lens of a colonialism long past and start taking responsibility for itself.

Bingo, BK. Africa is an economic cesspool into which money and the good will of a liberal Western world disappear. Their people, who as individuals represent the greatest value of the dark continent, are also the most despicable plague upon the place.

The casual disregard for each other and human life in general is apalling. We need to profile the entire continent politically, and – as the leftists here keep whining about Iraq – assign extremely short and tight strings to every penny of aid that we send there. Clearly these maggots don’t know how to behave, so we should tell them: “Behave like this, and we will send more money and food and medicine; behave like you normally behave and we will abandon you to civil war, butchery, malaria and dysentery.”