Video: Fred rips Obama
posted at 4:16 pm on April 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
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From last night’s H&C. It ran too long to cut the whole thing so consult the transcript if you want to read him touting McCain and acknowledging the painful reality of which we’re all already aware as regards the fire in his belly. But here’s the reddest red meat: FT on the vice presidency and Obama. Needless to say, he doesn’t think much of either one. Nice to see a prominent Republican “troubled” by Obama’s associations, though, especially with Maverick in such a lather over that NC GOP ad. Hannity should have asked Fred whether he’d have run it.
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Allah - redlasslo FAILS constantly. Please dump this crappy software.
wordwarp on April 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM
I remember when Fred was running. Back when I was an optimistic young man (of 47). Those were happy times.
Now I’ve got three liberals to choose from. What to do?
It’s a shame the voices in my head won’t shut up (the guns are ALREADY clean).
Squiggy on April 25, 2008 at 4:22 PM
“Now I’ve got three liberals to choose from.”
If you actually read the transcript, Fred strongly endorses McCain.
But don’t get that in your way of electing Obama.
NoDonkey on April 25, 2008 at 4:24 PM
I wish we had a conservative candidate.
PBoilermaker on April 25, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Vote for President Obama, Squig. Go ahead.
wise_man on April 25, 2008 at 4:26 PM
And why does that make John McCain not a liberal? All that tells me is Fred’s willing to compromise. Willing to settle for the lesser of two evils. Doesn’t make McCain a conservative.
Zetterson on April 25, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Same to you, PBoilermaker.
wise_man on April 25, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Right Said Fred
Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 4:28 PM
At ease, crapweasel.
PBoilermaker on April 25, 2008 at 4:29 PM
By the grace of God, you will.
Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 4:29 PM
The Creature from the Black lagoon!
Chakra Hammer on April 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM
I hate redlasso… can never see what the video is.
upinak on April 25, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Electoral Compass: Who Is The Most Conservative?
Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 4:31 PM
He’s not clearing his throat all the time anymore I see. Did he have some kind of problem during his campaign that caused him to clear his throat all the time?
apollyonbob on April 25, 2008 at 4:32 PM
He’s probably much more rested and in better health now. When campaigning, these guys have really long days and sometimes have to fly to three different states in a single day.
Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 4:34 PM
It looks to me like McCain knows how to deal with the media. It’s not only the MSM that I’m talking about, but the “alternative” media of blogs and talk radio. I’m sure he knows that he doesn’t have to attack Obama or Hillary directly, since the various scandals will surface anyway in our current media environment. He can stay “above the fray” by denouncing attack ads, etc. That kind of “stick to the issues” talk is like catnip to independent voters, who will decide the election in November.
Big S on April 25, 2008 at 4:35 PM
It was good to see Fred last night. AP, I wouldn’t use the royal we quite so frequently. The fact that he didn’t have anymore patience with the BS that was shoveled out is probably more to his credit than anything else.
He thinks Obama would be dangerous in the WH and he has thrown his support behind the candidate nominated by the media and the crossover voters. He knows the country has moved to the left and that McCain may be useful in bringing it back to the center, albeit not to the right of center where Fred thinks it should be.
I’m glad I had the opportunity to cast my vote for him in the primary.
Connie on April 25, 2008 at 4:35 PM
It was hard for him not to blurt out “The Vice Presidency involves sitting in chairs nodding your head at what the President says”.
His question is so simple, yet still has not been answered this late in the game.
Keep the low profile for a couple more years, Fred, then pick up the pace. Do what you did last time times a thousand. You have the potential. Prove it for 2012.
I never have a problem with it.
MadisonConservative on April 25, 2008 at 4:35 PM
Ding ding ding! We have a winnah!
MadisonConservative on April 25, 2008 at 4:36 PM
I love Red Lasso. Keep it coming!
Mormon Doc on April 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM
But with McCain I’m afraid we don’t have a winnah. Hillary is so ready to defeat McCain. It’s all part of Hillary’s 2008 Game Plan.
Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Is the fact that she can’t win the Dem primary part of her game plan as well?
Zetterson on April 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM
It’s too bad. It really threw off his public speaking game when every other word was interrupted by a throat clearing noise. And I think his public speaking not being so hot and the trepidation in attacking his opponents disappointed a lot of people who wanted him to run (myself included).
apollyonbob on April 25, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Hey dude, did you see the chart? Why don’t you vote for Obama, if McCain is such a horrible, horrible liberal. That’s a good boilermaker.
wise_man on April 25, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Put him on the Supreme Court.
- The Cat
P.S. And MM as the Secretary of Homeland Security.
MirCat on April 25, 2008 at 4:46 PM
I keep looking around for you-know-who to give this thread some perspective.
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 4:46 PM
We barely zinged in the primaries. But I do think Fred would have been smart enough to not say anything and let the NC GOP take the heat (and raise the dough).
seanhackbarth on April 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM
McCain likes to appease liberals. He’s slamming the GOP in N.C. over the Rev. Wright ad. If he keeps it up, I’m going to vote for Pat Paulson.
Travis1 on April 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Hehe. Funny, you know who hasn’t been around much since Fred’s demise. Mission accomplished I guess.
Zetterson on April 25, 2008 at 4:53 PM
I’m here dude. Or did you mean someone else?
TexasDan on April 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM
What a thoroughly decent and mature man. No self-deception or self-aggrandizing. I will never stop loving him — or his beautiful Jeri.
RushBaby on April 25, 2008 at 4:56 PM
If you are referring to csdevin, I too miss him. If you are out there cs, please just type a small comment, please.
Weight of Glory on April 25, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Wow, am I tired of this. Quit getting getting your panties in a bunch and calling others Obama supporters just because they point out pro-amnesty, pro-taxes, pro-spending, anti-free speech, anti-gun McCain.
MadisonConservative on April 25, 2008 at 4:56 PM
He’s posted once or twice. I think the stinging shame of losing it over Fred’s wife has been too much to overcome.
Still praying protection for your son, CSD. God bless.
TexasDan on April 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Aren’t Fred threads like a family reunion? Professor B will be in eventually too, I bet.
TexasDan on April 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Zing.
RushBaby on April 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Fred! ‘12?
Fred: Telling truth to power.
I still want to believe we could someday find a candidate like this.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM
RedLasso is more like RedAsso. These videos work for me maybe 20% of the time.
Savage on April 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Thank you!
Weight of Glory on April 25, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Fred for Dictatorship! screw all the headaches of elections and what not, hail Caesar!
/sarc
jp on April 25, 2008 at 5:02 PM
I just had a Fredgasm. Almost forgot what it was like!
ggoofer on April 25, 2008 at 5:03 PM
I don’t think it was that strong of endorsement of McCain. He said there were some things he agreed with him on and some he didn’t. Thompson said McCain was particularly good on security and trade. It’s clear he likes McCain personally and strongly
agrees with him on some things but he wasn’t asking conservatives to get behind McCain and pull the wagon or anything.
Hannity should have asked Thompson what he thought McCain would do on illegal immigration but Hannity likes to talk too much. He’s not much of an interviewer.
thatcher on April 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM
“Pat Paulson” Geez Travis, I haven’t remembered that one for years. how old are you dude?
bbz123 on April 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM
“I WANT TO BELIEVE.”
leftnomore on April 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM
About the only thing I disagree with Fred on is the Human Life Amendment. He said it is a states’ rights issue. I say it is a God-given unalienable right. Other than that one issue, I love Fred.
Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Oh, there’s more to it, but that’ll do. McCain isn’t trying to stamp out political pornography like the NC ad. He can’t. He’s just saying that he wants there to be a campaign - his campaign - where people can go who don’t care for political porn, and who want a national discourse that isn’t overwhelmed by it - because wants it’s starts seeping into the mainstream, it will be impossible to pay attention to anything else. You might get elected that way, but you won’t have much of a chance of achieving anything.
Too many people think that the role of the presidential candidate is to stick it to the people they don’t like and bump chests with the people they do like. It’s not about that. It’s about getting elected. So, look for more, not less keeping the far right roiled - though not out of malice or even cynical calculation - alongside pushing the issues most of us on the right do care about most. Sure, a small percentage of you who might otherwise have voted for McCain won’t do so, but what keeping you happy would cost just isn’t worth it, isn’t close to worth it - even if he happened actually to believe in forty meter kill zones on both sides of the border and a race war to the finish.
Maybe most of us see the NC Wright ad as a slightly dramatic way of making fair point, but anyone who thinks that, given NC’s history, that ad doesn’t get interpreted as race-baiting of the worst kind is either lying or too dense to be taken seriously. If the NC Reps wanted to go after Wright, or the real issues about Barack’s association with him, there are a lot of other ways they could do it.
The only thing I fault Mav on in this is not showing how to raise Wright in a more, as they say, elevated way. At some point, he could still take up the invitation for a “national dialog” on race, and take Obama’s plantation liberalism and repugnant evasions apart piece by piece, while laying out an authentically post-racial political vision. More likely, he’ll continue trying to do it piecemeal, but he won’t be able to do it at all if the entire mainstream and left of the country is shouting at the top of their lungs about those race-baiting Republicans up to their old tricks.
That’s the trap that too many self-style “real conservatives” want to push McCain into. Fingers crossed he keeps on pushing back - I’m blad to think that by now he’s committed.
CK MacLeod on April 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM
The sad thing is the only way the Republican party can lose this year is if McCain gets elected. He will ruin the party for years to come.
If Obama is elected, the Republican party will rise from the ashes stronger and more successful than ever.
Sadder still is what is good for the long term prospects of the Republican party is bad for the country.
Thanks Fred, you are a big part of the reason have McCain as our nomine. Thanks for nothing.
EJDolbow on April 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Obama was only “friendly” with geriatric domestic terrorists. Fred helped murderous Islamic terrorist avoid justice for years.
Terrorist enabling pot, meet terrorist enabling kettle.
tommylotto on April 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM
A real question is — does McCain have the ‘nads to go after Iran? I think things are being lined up for it, especially with the nomination of General David Petraeus as the next Commander for U.S. Central Command.
I think that a war with Iran will be more like Clinton’s war on Serbia — an air war with lots of cruise missiles and UAV’s taking out the Iranian infrastructure: hydropower dams, oil and gas fired power plants, transformer stations, high voltage towers, plus oil refinaries and major bridges. And of course their Navy and missile infrastructures. Such a war would be a US Navy and US Air Force war. US land forces would not get involved except defensively in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The goal will be to destroy Iran’s ability to develop and deploy nuclear weapons. Can’t run thousands of centrifuges and do warhead and missile industrial development in major underground bases without electrical power. No electrical power — no nuclear infrastructure development.
What do you think?
SunSword on April 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Wow. Here come da playa hatuhs.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM
I am a NC voter, and I plan to vote for Mike Huckabee in the May 6th primary.
At the very least, my vote will represent my conservative values, which McCain does not. I think it would be a wake up call for McCain to lose the NC primary to a man who isn’t even running against him anymore.
Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 5:13 PM
The Ron Paul people feel exactly like you, and use your same words - they just don’t have Huckabee in mind.
Entelechy on April 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM
What filthy accusations. You’ve got a poison pen.
RushBaby on April 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Where ya been, sugar pie??? So you’d rather have Obama than Fred? Great! Anyone else want to join the ranks of the utterly deranged? :D
MadisonConservative on April 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM
If Obama is elected, say hello to more liberals on the Supreme Court…John Edwards, perhaps?
Perish the thought.
Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Yep, sounds like a guy who is just panting to raise your taxes.
funky chicken on April 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM
I for one hope it never comes to war with Iran…but in the worst case scenario that it does I would feel very comfortable with General Petraeus handling the orders…thats for damn sure
SoCalInfidel on April 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Man, it’s only been three months since he dropped out and it feels like six.
CP on April 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Black Lagoon
Chakra Hammer on April 25, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Douglass Cassel will be on Obama’s SCOTUS short list, as will be Harlod Koh, and a radical law prof named Patricia Williams at Columbia U. John Edwards would be the best possible Obama nominee we could even pray for.
If anybody thinks McCain would even look at somebody from that list, well, all I can say is that it’s really sad to see people willfully delude themselves.
funky chicken on April 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Sorry for the late reply Tex…beer run was a priority.
Yeah. CSD. I believe(IIRR) he has three serving.
Without Rosie and Fred we have been stuck with Obama and Hillary. :)
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 5:19 PM
In past, he has been. Get the picture yet?
MadisonConservative on April 25, 2008 at 5:20 PM
I wish I was exaggerating. Some of our local immigration hawks have discussed pretty much exactly what I referred to (kill zones in particular) on HotAir.
CK MacLeod on April 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM
He watched the Obama campaign make lots of electoral hay out of turning Bill Clinton, of all people, into a racist. He doesn’t want to give them that advantage.
Ayers is an actual terrorist, and is white. It’s really easy to see why he is more politically comfortable using the Ayers connection than the Wright one.
And frankly, you guys who are pummeling him on the Wright thing want him to lose anyway. You have wanted him to lose from day one, and this kerfuffle hasn’t changed anything.
funky chicken on April 25, 2008 at 5:23 PM
I will agree with that…but even if I wasnt decided on who i was going to vote for, and I saw a man who went to his church for 20 years and donated over $20 k to that church…I can gaurantee you that it would change my thinking…and not change it in a favorable way at all
SoCalInfidel on April 25, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Being rational and dissecting again? :)
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM
I’d pay good money to see Fred(!) and BamBam in a debate.
Good, hard, American money.
yo on April 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM
No, he hasn’t madcon. He didn’t want to cut taxes without getting spending cuts first. I don’t agree that it is possible to get congress to cut spending without forcing them, so it was a silly position to take on McCain’s part.
Actually, even if revenues were halved congress would happily just run massive deficits, so tying tax cuts to spending cuts just means you get neither. I get it, perhaps McCain still does not. With Bush we got tax cuts, expansion of the economy, and still got increased deficits because of obscene spending that Bush didn’t veto until he had lost both houses of congress in 2006.
I’m not looking for perfection in a candidate because there is no such thing. All McCain has to be is better than Obama on the first Tuesday of November to get my vote. As a military wife, it’s a no-brainer.
funky chicken on April 25, 2008 at 5:29 PM
FDT as VP would be the only way i could vote for McCain.
Since he declined, I’m just gonna write in FDT, as many times as I can.
VolMagic on April 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Exactly. That’s the problem.
MadisonConservative on April 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Big S, I’ll agree with you that he is making the right move politically here but I’m not going to give him credit for that because that is just a coincidence. Take the SC attack ad for instance. At first glance it appears he is making a calculated political move to distance himself from the ad. But in reality that is not at all what is happening. This is a man who has made his bones by sticking his finger in the eye of the conservative base. Every time we have had a chance to grab hold of lower taxes, John McCain reaches out and pokes us in the eye. When freedom of speech is on the table McCain’s comes over again and damages our right eye. When we were demanding secure borders and standing up against amnesty John McCain walked over and jammed half his arm into our left eye. The truth of the matter is, in the case of the SC ad, John McCain is just doing what he has always done. Its not a political calculation. Its who he is. Its who he is going to be. Quite honestly, sometimes I wish I was blind to all of this.
Zetterson on April 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Sorry, my parents paid a lot of money to get me that master’s in biochemistry. I should use it for something :).
funky chicken on April 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM
I don’t blame Fred for not wanting the VP position. Would you like to babysit Reid and Schumer for four years?
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM
I’ve never once been able to access a redlasso video on this site.
obladioblada on April 25, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Your HotAir handle is quite the misnomer. I didn’t realize criticism of McCain=Fawning support of Obama.
Are you capable of independent thought?
PBoilermaker on April 25, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Playing an ad with Wright shouting god damn America in order to associate Obama endorsers with him is obviously a stretch.
For those of you born yesterday, North Carolina is the same state where Jesse Helms once upon a time defeated Harvey Gant, a black candidate for Senate, after running the infamous “hands” ad (a white man shown by his hands, receiving a rejection notice and frustratedly balling it up) against racial quotas. Helms came from behind to win the election, but Republicans were forced to defend the ad, and defend themselves against accusations of racism, for at least a decade.
And some of you wonder why blacks vote 90% Democrat, year in and year out, despite the devastation wrought on the black community by Great Society liberalism. Regardless of what African Americans should see when they see that ad, I think a large number of them rightly see themselves painted in the worst possible light, and see a political party trying to inflame a white racial response to the Democrats and their black frontrunner.
CK MacLeod on April 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM
The last time we had a weak GOP presidential candidate, I voted Libertarian. I thought in ‘96 Harry Browne was the best choice. Bod Dole is a great guy, but he was not the right man for President. It looks like in ‘08 it will be none of the above for me. I will just vote for the Senate and lower.
Dasher on April 25, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Apropos of nothing:
The Huckster is not a conservative. Socially, the Huckster is conservative with a little fanaticism thrown in. Economically, he’s more of a moderate. Government-size-wise, he’s a liberal.
In my book, that makes him an unprincipled opportunist.
And immigration? Don’t get me started.
misterpeasea on April 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM
CK MacLeod on April 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM
How laughable. If you want to buy the democrat talking point that southern republicans are racist, be my guest. Don’t expect thinking people buy into that bilge, though.
VolMagic on April 25, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Well, then why was he spouting all that class warfare crap when he was arguing against them?
Watcher on April 25, 2008 at 5:42 PM
There is no excuse for ignorance. Then again, perhaps they vote Democrat because Democrats keep them happy by making promises that will neither lift them up out of their self-imposed victimization nor come to fruition.
Hard truths are hard to accept. Democrats pander to blacks, throwing out race cards like beads from a Mardi Gras float and promising more entitlements while simultaneously stoking the fires of racial divisiveness to obtain desired electoral results.
Quit making excuses.
PBoilermaker on April 25, 2008 at 5:45 PM
They rightly see that? How can you say that? There is absolutely nothing about race what-so-ever in that ad. Nothing. The ad is tapping into the hatred Obama’s preacher of 20 years has for his own country. Rev Write hates America. He says “God Damn America!” Obama sits in the church listening to this garbage with his wife (who’s just now proud of her country for the first time ever) and children. There is no mention or insinuation about race anywhere in that ad. Would African Americans see racism in an ad attacking Obama’s desire to raise taxes? According to you, probably. How about an ad exposing Obama’s lack of desire to seal the borders? Ooooh, that would be a fat heaping pile of racism there I bet!
What your mindset is doing CK MacLeod is making it impossible to go after Obama for anything. We cannot question his character without upsetting black voters. We cannot question his positions without upsetting black voters. We certainly cannot question his patriotism without upsetting black voters. And you think black voters are right to see racism where there is so obviously none? Give me a rope now.
Zetterson on April 25, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Good job totally missing the point. If Republicans want to sustain the Democratic talking point - and the Democratic constituency - indefinitely, then they can keep on pretending that everyone will see things your way after they’ve been insulted and scapegoated enough times.
CK MacLeod on April 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Uhm. I have to disagree. Wright is an America-hating, conspiracy-spouting, hypocritical lunatic, who also happens to be one of Obama’s closest friends and mentors for the last 20 years. Obama has given him tens of thousands of dollars, he baptized Obama and his kids, he’s the “inspiration” for Obama’s book title. They’re as intimate as two non-homosexual men can be.
You endorse Obama, you’re endorsing Wright. And Ayers. And Dohrn.
It might be different if Obama wasn’t a doctrinaire leftist, but he is, and he associates with even more radical leftists than himself.
Wait. They don’t see what they “should” see, they see, in your opinion, “rightly,” racism.
Not every black person identifies with every other black person. To think so is another example of the soft bigotry of low expectations: those black people just aren’t smart enough to realize it isn’t an attack on black in general, riight?
There is not a SINGLE THING racist about it, other than Obama’s racism in intentionally picking out a black church with a racist black minister preaching black liberation theology.
The Obamas and Wright are the racists, not the GOP.
misterpeasea on April 25, 2008 at 5:53 PM
CK MacLeod on April 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM
No point was missed by this sharp eyed commentor. Basically, because Deomcrats tell the black community that any Republican point is masking the barely vieled racism that boils in white america, Republicans should stop making valid points?
I don’t think so.
VolMagic on April 25, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Whoa there pardner! There are many here who believe that this is an issue of judgement on Obama’s part. That is completely seperate from race. You also threw out the ‘kill zone’ strawman in an effort to lump McNo’s in with that nonsense. I’m from a racist family background. I’ve heard every ugly disgusting argument there is from the white perspective. You are trying to lay white guilt on people who see the Wright, and the fence, as valid talking points.
There are plenty of ‘us’ who are neither racist or genocidal. What you are asking of us is to keep quiet so we can aquire political correctness.
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM
When his mom found what he’d been typing there was hell to pay! Actually, I came to the conclusion he was on his LDS mission and this type of activity is verboten so he got in trouble.
Beto Ochoa on April 25, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Really? A stretch? Who do you see advising Obama? Who do you think would be his advisers, cabinet members, and Supreme Court nominees should he (perish the thought) win?
Hanging around with a bunch of anti-Semite, anti-American, black racist plus assorted Weathermen and other crazies does not speak well for Obama’s powers of judgment.
When watching Obama I can’t help thinking “Manchurian Candidate…Manchurian Candidate…Manchurian Candidate!” After all, if not to destroy us, why else would someone who so obviously and openly hates America want the top job?
landlines on April 25, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Wishing that it was Fred running against Obama - I miss hearng that voice I so much wanted to be coming from my Commander in Chief.
ApartforHaShem on April 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Well, VolMagic and misterpeasea, you may have noticed that there are immigration hawks who are still upset about Lindsey Graham referring to “bigots” on the other side of the immigration debate. He didn’t say that all of the opponents were bigots, he just said that there were bigots among them. Immigration hawks felt that they were all being tarred with that brush - that it was pure inflammatory guilt by association diverting people from the real issues.
The North Carolina ad isn’t even aimed primarily at Obama. It’s aimed at people who endorsed him. So it’s not even guilt by association. It’s guilt by association with guilt by association.
I agree with you both about Wright, and I agree that Obama should be made to take responsibility for associating with him. But that’s not what that ad does or can do. Instead, it over-dramatizes its point with sadly familiar visual - inevitably racial - cues and the most incendiary statement of all of the ones Wright made (and one of the few where the “out of context snippet” defense almost makes sense if you’re not pre-disposed against Wright and Obama).
Look at how Fred responded to Wright in the Hannity interview. Raising questions is enough, more than enough, on this one. Overplaying the hand in an obviously unfair, overtly confrontational and inflammatory way cedes the game to the Democrats too easily.
CK MacLeod on April 25, 2008 at 6:09 PM
You’re a self-respecting black person in North Carolina or anywhere for that matter, or a white Obama supporter - and you turn on your TV and see that ad, or, more likely, the most inflammatory “out of context snippets” - god damn America and white politicians next to a smiling Obama - and what do you think?
Now, if I’m willing to forget a long history of particularly foul expressions directed at white people who were too close to black people, and a long history of particularly foul depictions of black people’s supposed intellectual and other tendencies, then I might say, sure, thank you Republicans for pointing out this very important political information to me. On the other hand, if I’m just a little bit human, maybe I’m thinking, “There they go again.”
CK MacLeod on April 25, 2008 at 6:19 PM
CK,
Your post is good, until:
Because the man spewing that filth is black, that is a “racial cue” to all us honkey racists?
Whatever. Like I said, you can buy into the dialogue that Republicans cannot talk about racial issues or a black person without being racist. I think that’s incorrect.
As for this:
It obviously isn’t “enough” to raise questions, or the 9/11 truthers would not be a lauhgingstock. I think it is fair game to show the type of person Obama gravitates too, in all his self-righteous insanity. To the extent this was an ad against a gubernetorial candidate, you don’t think Republicans get hit, the nation over, with Bush? They don’t all follow in lockstep with Bush, but if you have an R next to your name on the ballot, the Dems have no problems laying W’s issues at your feet.
VolMagic on April 25, 2008 at 6:22 PM
So the ad associates Wright with Obama, and you say Obama should take responsibility for associating with him.
“Over-dramatizes its point” - By playing clips of Wright?
“Sadly familiar visual - inevitably racial - cues” - Uhm, playing clips of Wright. The only racial cue is that Wright’s skin is black. Should they have put him in whiteface?
“Where the “out of context snippet” defense ALMOST works” - Uhh, but doesn’t.
“Overplaying the hand in an obviously unfair, overtly confrontational and inflammatory way cedes the game” - Again, by playing clips of Wright? Clips that his church sells? What in the world is unfair about that? And Obama needs to be confronted. And they’re inflammatory because Wright was intentionally inflammatory.
Tell me, the church members who’ve bought the DVDs and play them at home: are they being racist? Obviously unfair? Confrontational? Inflammatory?
Not convincing.
I refuse to talk down to black people, or handle them with kid gloves, on the assumption that they aren’t smart enough to know any better. That smacks of racism, to me.
misterpeasea on April 25, 2008 at 6:22 PM
That’s a perfectly legitimate option. However those conservatives saying they’ll spitefully vote Dem because they don’t like McCain? Freakin’ insane.
Hollowpoint on April 25, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Not everybody notices, and gives the greatest import to, skin color.
Wright is black. Who’s fault is that? Eeeevil racist Republicans?
It’s not the color of his skin that’s objectionable, it’s the content of his character.
Again, it seems a bit racist to assume that black people aren’t going to be able to grasp this.
misterpeasea on April 25, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Case in point. Republicans are racist, and any valid point they make is just a mask for their racism. Dem talking point.
VolMagic on April 25, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Our logic, once again, is irrefutable.
VolMagic on April 25, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Here we are again, VolMagic.
“…we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender…”
- W.S. Churchill
misterpeasea on April 25, 2008 at 6:28 PM
As bizarre as your campaign? I can excuse Barack; he’s a Democrat and doesn’t know any better.
You screwed the Republican pooch. See you on L&O you flaccid wusstard.
The Race Card on April 25, 2008 at 6:28 PM
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