Planned Parenthood protest in DC: Stop targeting African-Americans
posted at 11:15 am on April 25, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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On Wednesday, I asked whether the time had come for an investigation into the practices of Planned Parenthood. They have received millions of taxpayer dollars for their operations through federal grants while profiting off of abortion mills. In at least four incidents, they exploited racist sentiment to accrue private donations for the explicit purpose of aborting African-American babies. Yesterday, a group of pastors and activists primarily from the black community demanded an end to Planned Parenthood’s “genocide”:
The Planned Parenthood Federation of America has perpetuated a “genocide on the black community,” says a group of African-American pastors who claimed Thursday the birth control and abortion provider has had a racist agenda since its beginnings in 1921.
Holding a brief vigil and press conference in front of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Washington, D.C., the group of pastors and activists said they were incensed by the results of recent “undercover” inquiries into several Planned Parenthood clinics across the country.
“Every day … over 1,500 black babies are murdered inside the black woman’s womb,” said Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, of Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny (BOND). “This is a race issue.”
The pastors urged Congress to initiate an audit of the organization and have written letters demanding that money for Planned Parenthood be eliminated from federal Title X funding, of which the group got $65 million for fiscal year 2007, according to pro-life Concerned Women of America. In total, Planned Parenthood received $300 million in government contracts and grants in the current fiscal year.
The national office of Planned Parenthood provided FOX News with a lengthy statement on Thursday in which it said its role in the African-American community is widespread because the need is greater.
The need is greater? The need for what? They point to a study that shows almost half of all black teenage girls carry an STD, but that would indicate that PP hasn’t performed very effectively with the millions it gets already. PP has been targeting these communities for decades, and the problem to which it points highlights its failure — because everyone knows they’re not all that interested in STDs anyway.
People can buy condoms at Walgreens. They get abortions at Planned Parenthood.
Fox had a lengthy report on the protest:
Hot Air readers took some photos of the event, which you can see here:
Maybe the scope of the damage that abortion has wrought has finally come into focus.
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Those protesters are anti-woman bigots… I guess.
AbaddonsReign on April 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM
The fracturing of the Left continues.
Delicious!
Cicero43 on April 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Planned Parenthood, formerly known as the American Birth Control League. They changed their name the same way Eugenics Quarterly changed their name to Social Biology.
Same people, same insane ideas of population control.
MadisonConservative on April 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Talk about chickens coming home to roost.
Jaibones on April 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM
I never really thought of it like that; being male I never really could pick any definitive answer on abortion, as it’s not my choice to make (if its gonna rain, wear the raincoat!) but its pretty absurd that the ulterior motives of PP has gone on so long. Call me one of the blindfolded; I’d always assumed they gave counsiling and had some kind of effect, but apparently not since stats show they aren’t making any difference at all, particularly with these racists overtones that have surfaced recently. Pretty intense stuff
drift on April 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Finally.
OneGyT on April 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Your comments trouble me. The left is so organized and energetic, and without honor, to assume any of this will have an affect on their side is naive.
Our enemy is formidable, and we have McCain.
Agrippa2k on April 25, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Abortion is a pretty easy position to take a stand on because it revolves around one premise. Pro-Lifers start with the assumption of “there are two people, one of which is murdered by a doctor.”
Choicers start with the assumption, “the doctor removes an inanimate growth.”
Only one of those two can be true. Its not about who has a right to answer the question, it about what the answer is.
AbaddonsReign on April 25, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Where can they go to get the pill? Not Walgreens without a prescription.
dedalus on April 25, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Abortion is extra bad when it’s black babies.
Akzed on April 25, 2008 at 11:31 AM
I am in political extacy. To see the Liberal’s identity politics turned against them (first in the Dem primarys, and now against ultra-liberal Planned Parenthood) just makes my heart glad.
As much as I want the protesters to succeed and get Congress to investigate, part of me kind of hopes the Dems running Congress snub the black community again.
NOT because I want more beautiful black babies dead (God forbid!) But because it will CONTINUE to open the eyes of black people around the country to the fact that Liberals in general, and Democrats in particular DO NOT have the bests interests of blacks in mind.
The modern Liberal is simply the grandchild of the early 20′th century fascist eugenicists. The sooner blacks leave the Democrat party and the Liberal mindset, the better off they all will be.
It just breaks my heart at how many innocents have had to die for our stubborn American people to begin to learn this lesson. May God forgive us all.
wearyman on April 25, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Population control sounds mandatory, akin to China’s policies.
dedalus on April 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM
AbaddonsReign
perhaps but it will never be a choice I will have to make. I guess as an individual I can only apply desicions that would affect me to my day to day life. Perhaps it’s a little narrow-minded but I’ve always been torn about the life begins at conception idea; I was raised as a born again christian but I can’t say that I ’subscribe’ to the same ideals that I once did. It’s a tough issue. I would in no way be for partial-birth as the baby has developed, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it has to have a face to be a life. This is something outside my scope of life experience. Really, the only thing I could offer is the fact that I would have always assumed (and you know what they say about assumptions) and in a way hoped, that facilities like PP would have had some kind of effect in the communities they are involved in, such as contraceptives, low cost diagnostic services, education, etc, but now that their real intentions have been revealed, I’m all about shutting them down
drift on April 25, 2008 at 11:34 AM
A protest of this racial substance and the Reverends Jesse and Al are nowhere to be found? Odd.
DCA on April 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Life doesn’t begin at conception? Hmmm… the spermis alive, the egg is alive, they bond and then… there’s no life? Then sometime later it springs to life?
Akzed on April 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM
As they ALWAYS SHOULD HAVE when taking strong hormones. Any doctor will gladly give a non-minor a prescription for birth control, assuming that the doctor feels the woman is healthy enough to take them.
Birth control pills are NOT candy! They should NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER be taken without first consulting with a licensed physician. They cause drastic changes in the chemical and hormonal makeup of a woman’s body, just as ANY OTHER powerful drug would.
There is a reason that strong drugs require a prescription, because taking them improperly can seriously injure or kill you. BC pills are NO DIFFERENT.
If PP is simply giving them out without a physician consultation or a prescription they should be sued for practicing medicine without a license. Just another notch up on the “Evil-o-Meter” for PP if that is the case.
wearyman on April 25, 2008 at 11:38 AM
I believe they should make reparations to the black community for this apparent racist targeting. Typical white baby killers.
trs on April 25, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Endless promises to fix poverty and no results. Almost no shared values. Could it be possible that some blacks are starting to realize that they’ve been used a patsies by the Left and the Dems for all these years?
Cicero43 on April 25, 2008 at 11:41 AM
It’s ABOUT TIME! Another organization defended tooth and nail by liberals turns out to not be helping “the people”.
kirkill on April 25, 2008 at 11:42 AM
At any clinic. The local free clinics in my area base their fees upon a person’s ability to pay. Often, the BC pills are free because you and I have already paid for them with our taxmoney.
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GT on April 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Odd handle. Reference to the Cicero who opposed Caesar?
DocKen on April 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Same question I always ask…
How many of those masses/zygotes/embryos would have turned out to be elephants, tigers, or pine trees?
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Right. Condoms are easy to buy, but if a girl goes to Walgreens and ask for birth control pills she can’t get the pills or counselling. Not every teenage girl has a family doctor or can ask that doctor about contraceptives.
dedalus on April 25, 2008 at 11:45 AM
It is about time.
Johan Klaus on April 25, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Funny how bastardy sky rocketed after birth control became availabile on demand. Then abortion was legalized and it went up further. I don’t get it.
Akzed on April 25, 2008 at 11:45 AM
Now will they start looking at the perpetuation of the democratic liberal agenda on abortion?
xler8bmw on April 25, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Excellent point. It’s too often overlooked.
Don’t hyperventilate. PP offices are medical clinics after all, and have staff licensed to write prescriptions. Here.
Big S on April 25, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Race trumps gender. Is McCain ready to call PP racist like he implied with the NC Republicans.
RobCon on April 25, 2008 at 11:47 AM
John McCain should jump on this issue. Fiscally responsible, pro-life, AND racially progressive.
rockmom on April 25, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Well, that’s about the most clear and concise argument I’ve seen to obliterate the lefty/liberal mindset on when life “begins”. But then, using pure logic like this is casting pearls before the lefty swine. They’re blinded already. Sad.
Fishoutofwater on April 25, 2008 at 11:48 AM
BlackGenocide.org has some good articles focusing on this issue and Margaret Sanger.
(At least I believe that is the proper URL. I cannot verify it right now at work, since it is blocked as “extreme”)
I can access BlackGenocide.com though and it has some similar articles.
Michael in MI on April 25, 2008 at 11:48 AM
I wonder what BO will say about this? I’m betting on “nothing”.
kirkill on April 25, 2008 at 11:49 AM
I’ve become much more “pro-life” since the birth of my son. Seeing sonograms of him even at 15 weeks is simply amazing.
Is the “need” in the black community tied to class in any way? i.e. is it mostly poor black families this happens in?
Dash on April 25, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Or the policies of the United States…
MadisonConservative on April 25, 2008 at 11:49 AM
That puts a dent in the left’s argument.
Johan Klaus on April 25, 2008 at 11:50 AM
The final paragraph after the imbedded story is the most telling.
The need is greater? The need for what exactly?
You are absolutely correct. You go to the store for condoms. You go to PP to kill a baby.
And trust me, I understand the irony of having the name “Mortis” and typing that.
Mortis on April 25, 2008 at 11:51 AM
If fetus could vote, Democrats would surely be anti-abortion.
After all, since Democrats poll well among the deceased, the housepets of America and the illegal guests of America, I’m sure Democrats would poll well amongst the pre-born community as well.
But since the fetus cannot yet cast a vote for an absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrat just yet, it is evisceration for many of them. Hard luck indeed.
Let’s hope these demonstrators also know exactly who the abortion party (aka the Democrat Party) is.
NoDonkey on April 25, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Akzed, Limerick
very valid, tough points to argue. Again my standpoint more on PPs supposid benefit to the community via education and counsiling and whatnot, but that wasn’t the obvious intention. Arguing when life begins is not something I have the knowledge or resources to debate. But I just wanted to say those are very very good points :)
drift on April 25, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Slavery. Genocide. Eugenics. Abortion.
The march of death continues
RMC1618 on April 25, 2008 at 11:54 AM
I guess what logic can’t accomplish, racism can…
right2bright on April 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Attitudes about abortion are a function of worldview and I don’t want to argue that. I simply want to point out that we on the right dislike people concocting charges of racism rather than having a serious political discussion. And here HotAir turns around and takes the issue of abortion in the circus of racism accusations? This is as intellectually bankrupt as an Obama speech.
thuja on April 25, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Guess the source…
That’s right – it’s from the Planned Parenthood website. Even if you think abortion is completely evil, PP gives aid and advice on sexual health and contraception, as well as rotine tests such as pap smears, that should not be overlooked.
Big S on April 25, 2008 at 12:00 PM
PP does not counsel. I know someone who has worked there a long time and she says that the working assumption by staff is that by the time a woman gets to PP, she has already decided in favor of the abortion. So they just guide her right along from there.
Missy on April 25, 2008 at 12:01 PM
I should amend the above to say, “PP does not counsel women on whether or not to abort.” There may be different counseling services available on other subjects such as birth control, STDs etc. But my friend says that at her clinic, no “other options” to pregnant women (such as adoption) are offered by the staff. The assumption is that the decision to abort has already been made.
Missy on April 25, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Equal Genocidal Rights!!!!!!!
Does this mean they will lower the cost for White women to murder their babies to catch-up (even though I’m sure in the forty-plus million of children that have been exterminated, the lioness’ share of murder was by Whites)?
Summer is coming and we can’t have giving birth to a child get in the way of looking sweet in a bathing suit.
Hening on April 25, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Thanks for the link. Governments imposing sterilization on unwilling citizens is wrong. Organizations providing birth control that still allows the possibility for women to have children when they are older is different. At least that’s my takeaway from the article.
dedalus on April 25, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Even if you think abortion is completely evil, PP gives aid and advice on sexual health and contraception
Phew!! I feel much better knowing that. All the death and tragedy is worth it then I guess.
Hening on April 25, 2008 at 12:10 PM
My thoughts exactly. I wonder how many of these protestors/organizers have participated in protests against abortion in all ethnic groups. Some schizo logic going on here. Money is fungible. Money donated to abort black babies just means other money can be used to abort white babies. If one is opposed to abortion in principle, it should include opposition to it in all races. Yet, this event is focused pretty specifically. Makes one wonder about agendas.
a capella on April 25, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I’m surprised that we haven’t already heard that high gas prices are targeted at blacks.
orlandocajun on April 25, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Typical liberalism. Hey, let’s do “some good” so maybe the dumbed down Americans will overlook the “evil”.
Here’s an alternative that helps women even AFTER an abortion if that’s what they’ve done, and no Federal Dollars are received (as far as I know – Democrats would make sure that didn’t happen since they do preach freely the love of Jesus Christ):
http://www.elifenetwork.com/
kirkill on April 25, 2008 at 12:16 PM
May I say it’s about time?
Bob's Kid on April 25, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Call me a liberal if you want; I don’t mind. Note that comprehensive sex education and access to contraceptives is a great way to decrease the number of abortions performed.
Big S on April 25, 2008 at 12:22 PM
PP does offer counseling – the kind of counseling that tells a young, scared girl not to worry, that the fetus is nothing but a mass of flesh, that it won’t hurt to remove it, that she’s exercising her right of choice to be here…
/barf
fossten on April 25, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Pure genius……….I will be borrowing this in the future.
Brevity is wit!
omnipotent on April 25, 2008 at 12:26 PM
It’s not nearly as effective as making abortion illegal and equivalent to murder.
Really, contraceptives reduce the number of abortions? I think I may have heard that argued about FIFTY-FIVE MILLION ABORTED BABIES AGO.
fossten on April 25, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Kind of reminds me of the evolutionary explanation for the origin of life.
fossten on April 25, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Tammy Bruce talks in depth about this in her book ‘The New American Reovolution’. She was the NOW chapter president in L.A., NOW wanted to keep open abortion clinics that had a high rate of patient mortality … WOMEN DYING …why? Because these clinics were in BLACK and LATINO neighborhoods!
Tony737 on April 25, 2008 at 12:30 PM
You will not see Obama at these events. At the end of the day, he is still a house Negro to the rich white lefty power in this country who loves abortion.
Hummer53 on April 25, 2008 at 12:31 PM
The abortion issue aside this is just another senseless cry of racism. These are the same people who would be up in arms crying discrimination if the clinics weren’t convenient to the ghettos.
TooTall on April 25, 2008 at 12:31 PM
But that’s not going to happen in ths country – at least not for quite a long time. Want to keep people from having abortions? Help then stop unwanted pregnancies by telling them the risks associated with certain behaviors, and how they can minimize those risks. Abstinence works for the very strong-willed, and for everyone else there’s condoms and the pill.
Big S on April 25, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Isn’t the anger directed PP a little off target in that no one is forcing these girls to walk through the front door (at least i hope not).
meandchi on April 25, 2008 at 12:41 PM
When my mother and step-father became Christians (in the eighties), part of that was repudiating the pro-”choice” stance held by many of the non-religious. As a result, they evolved into conservatives and voted for a Republican president (Bush 41) before I did (Bush 43). IOW, agreement on abortion opened their minds about looking at the rest of the conservative Republican agenda and becoming Republicans.
It’s a start at undoing the brain-washing.
baldilocks on April 25, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Some point later it may implant in the uterus. Some point later it may become one or two or more embryos. Some point later it may develop organs and brain waves. Some point later it reaches viability. The further along you get the higher the percentage of people who believe that you’ve moved from something that is more like a cell to something that is more like a being.
dedalus on April 25, 2008 at 12:42 PM
The world before Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood didn’t have condoms on the store shelves either.
Comstock Laws
Doctors were also not free to prescribe the Pill or much of any other form of birth control.
United States v. One Package of Japanese Pessaries
Comstock Laws against obscenity were broadly applied to:
Reasonably obscene information (”Hungry Bitches” of which 2girls1cup was meant as a trailer. Yes, there is apparently a full-length film of that)
Pornographic, but non-obscene information (Debbie Does Dallas)
Reasonable, non-obscene information (there are such things as condoms, you can buy them, and this is how you use them)
And abortion information. While many find abortion offensive to their religious or quasi-religious beliefs and decry its impact, the information in and of itself is not obscene. Putting abortion and birth control under the purview of obscenity laws was bad law, and rightfully challenged.
Sekhmet on April 25, 2008 at 12:42 PM
I agree, but “comprehensive sex education” means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. When done with bureaucratic left wingers leading it, it increases the amount of premarital sex.
I also agree it will take a long time to change the culture of death that left wing politics has foisted upon our society.
kirkill on April 25, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Convenient “at some point later” – IF IT’S NOT DESTROYED FIRST! DESTROY IT, BEFORE IT BECOMES THE ONLY THING IT CAN BECOME!
Lunacy.
kirkill on April 25, 2008 at 12:50 PM
GAH, I had a wonderful thing written, but as computers are stupid, it could not tell the difference between my discussing reasonable versus unreasonable applications of obscenity laws and my advertising for such obscenities.
Suffice it to say, for all that PP degenerated into, Margaret Sanger was equally the reason why Walgreen’s has condoms on their shelves, and peoples gynecologists can prescribe the Pill, diaphragms, and other means of contraception. People forget how broadly Comstock Laws were applied, and how tied together legally birth control and abortion information were, at least in the US.
In other words, let’s NOT get the condoms off Walgreen’s shelves in the zeal to stop abortion, mmmkay?
Sekhmet on April 25, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Jay at STACLU linked that same website in an article last year.
ACLU and National Abortion Federation Criticize Decision by U.S. Supreme Court Upholding Federal Abortion Ban
Are you actually serious? Do you know anything at all about the racist beginnings of Planned Parenthood? Or about its Marxist founder?
Connie on April 25, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Obama gets off on babies being killed. How else could you possibly explain someone supporting every single abortion measure that comes down the pipe, including babies that are already born (botched abortion survivors?
This is some seriously evil sh**. It is in the same league as child rape and the Holocaust. I try my best not to hate people, but anyone who supports this atrocity is not a person.
Jungliszt on April 25, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Apparently not.
baldilocks on April 25, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Big S, back in high school a girl got pregnant – the first ever in our school – so PP came in to talk to us about the “dangers” while also telling us about all the free benefits; the following year nine girls got pregnant.
The answer is to take away any incentive, rather than outlaw the practice. If a woman realizes her choices have consequences they may just start to take their reproductivity seriously. Right now it’s seen as a gateway to free stuff like education, food, housing and health care.
We needn’t outlaw abortion, we need to end welfare.
Ciannaky on April 25, 2008 at 12:54 PM
I’d rather have a largely correct, institutionalized (if left-wing) sex education for my kids than an informal and incorrect “street” sex education given by their peers. There are so many harmful misconceptions (no pun intended) out there that I’m confortable with kids learning the right information in school.
Big S on April 25, 2008 at 12:58 PM
I have been telling people about Sanger/PP’s eugenecist history for YEARS. A liberal girl I know was shocked when she checked out the facts on the subject. A national organizer for PP was dating my neighbor, she informed me that since I was male, I had no right to have an opinion on the subject of abortion(that she was the non-aborted anchor baby of illegal aliens to boot, really pissed me off as well). They are a bunch narcissistic baby-killing feminazis.
Lunkinator on April 25, 2008 at 12:59 PM
The Eugenics program in the US was also shut down in the 20’s, due to ethical considerations.
No one, nor country, is perfect. It does not matter so much that mistakes are made, what matters is that we learn from our mistakes.
Wyrd on April 25, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Pregnant.
Isn’t this where the argument begins? It should also be where the argument ends.
What is the definition of a pregnant woman? It perfectly answers the ‘when does life begin’ question.
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Interesting. I don’t disagree. Hard to imagine that being pregnant at 15 and dropping out of high school seems like a good idea. I know it happens and a few people it’s happened to. It’s just baffling.
dedalus on April 25, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Using McCain Campaign thinking….just saying ;^D
Abortion enslaves women into thinking their bodies are good for nothing but sex and if the condom pops; go find someone else to be the “fetus” pop or “get rid of ‘it.’”
How many people go to “Fetus Showers” or do they go to “Choice Showers?” No, they go to “Baby Showers” because ‘it’ is a human being {all races} in there….
Branch Rickey on April 25, 2008 at 1:04 PM
A girl doesn’t have to drop out to have a kid, the fact is that if she knows she isn’t going to coddled by society she will be less inclined to take the risk.
Ciannaky on April 25, 2008 at 1:05 PM
The best way to keep abortion rare is to keep it legal, but socially disapproved-of.
Illegality causes people to try to find ways to legally flout the law. Social disapproval limits abortions to cases where all options otherwise are likely to be worse.
Sekhmet on April 25, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Pregnancy might begin at fertilization or implantation depending on the OB/GYN you talk to. Life can end with the body still alive but the brain dead. What constitutes a “person” is a social definition, not a medical one.
dedalus on April 25, 2008 at 1:08 PM
Dedalus,
It’s baffling to many people, but then again, it also depends on the culture. Some people are raised on media sound bites and stereotypes. For example, if you are an inner city youth you should be in a gang, on drugs, have no hope for a future, a criminal, be kept down by the “man” with no hope to get out away from the oppression of others, and the father of several children, all out of wedlock. This is according to the media/sub culture though. To change this means changing the perceptions people have about themselves and the other sub cultures. This would be a positve thing to do though, so the media might be against it.
Wyrd on April 25, 2008 at 1:08 PM
The government can’t prevent her from being coddle by her family, and families naturally extend themselves to care for a new mother, and, with even more attention, an infant.
Girls can continue their education. Perhaps the majority do. It is certainly significantly harder to achieve academically while caring for a baby, especially if the mother was a child only a few years earlier.
dedalus on April 25, 2008 at 1:12 PM
I was unaware that women having abortions were in the fertilization or pre-implantation stage.
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Yep.
29Victor on April 25, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Notice how Fox used the least offensive example of the responses from PP, “ok, whatever!” Why not play the one where PP said “I’m so excited!” or “that’s understandable, understandable” or “yeah, yeah, it’s a strange time for sure”. “we can definitely designate it for an African American”?? I found it interesting which response Fox chose but at least they did decide to cover it while other News organizations ignored the story.
Dollayo on April 25, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Very fair point. The pre-implantation question is not relevant to abortions, unless you get into the question of some abortifacients–the ones that are designed to prevent implantation.
The conception/implantation question is relevant though if one is making a case for what constitutes a human being.
dedalus on April 25, 2008 at 1:23 PM
I know it isn’t something we all are going to agree on anytime soon. This is going to take decades to work itself out. Just one of those topics I can’t sit back and ignore.
Indifference is what the pro-choice crowd demands. They won’t find that with me, ever.
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 1:29 PM
They wouldn’t locate in the black neighborhoods unless there is demand there. Do the owners of pawn shops, gun shops, strip clubs, cheap taverns, all-night liquor stores, Pentacostal and non-denominational churches, etc. also “target” very low income primarily black and Latino neightborhoods or is this simply going where the demand is highest?
jim m on April 25, 2008 at 1:34 PM
I live in a middle class white neighborhood. There is a PP clinic 3/4mile from my driveway.
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 1:38 PM
This is irrelevant.
The point is that abortion opponents are trying to change the amount of demand for the service in question by pointing out that the original intent was to keep the population of blacks down.
baldilocks on April 25, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Oh, so PP is not “targeting” black neighborhoods, then, limerick?
jim m on April 25, 2008 at 1:40 PM
The conception/implantation question is a disingenuous attempt to muddy the waters of the beginning of life.
This is from the American Academy of Medical Ethics. A paper titled The Woman and the Physician Facing Abortion: The Role of Correct Science in the Formation of Conscience and the Moral Decision Making Process:
INC on April 25, 2008 at 1:42 PM
I didn’t say that. I haven’t expressed an opinion on that aspect of this argument. Guilty of being uninformed on the issue enough to have formed an opinion.
Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM
If you click just on the link for the paper, I forgot to add it is a 23 page pdf document. Some people like to be warned.
INC on April 25, 2008 at 1:45 PM
True, then leave it up to the individuals and their families and strip PP and welfare for minors out of our budgets; as it stands now they simply exacerbate the problem.
What I am saying is if those inner city girls – and some suburban – who think that spitting out a child in order to get out from under the yolk of their parent(s) realize that there are potential consequences and life isn’t all peaches and roses they may think twice before engaging in risky behavior; or at least they may take proper precautions.
As it stands PP is education these girls that they are not going to be held responsible for being irresponsible; on the other hand we as a society go out of our way to destroy the male partner by saddling him with the vast majority of the cost of raising “her” child, regardless of his ability to pay the arbitrary amounts set by society. We even go as far to incarcerate him if he fails to live up to our standards; further burdening society.
Why do we treat girls with kid gloves and banish males to a life in the underground economy or prison, or both.
Ciannaky on April 25, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Here I go opening my big mouth, figuratively of course. After reading only about a third of the comments I have to say this…Why should a teenage girl, of which I have two with a third just a few years away, be able to get BC pills without mom and or dad knowing, what happened to parental responsibility.
midwesternperspective on April 25, 2008 at 1:49 PM
If a woman had a baby harp seal in her womb, there would be no abortion.
OhEssYouCowboys on April 25, 2008 at 1:50 PM
dedalus, THAT is a very slippery slope. It is eugenics. How do you know that a Downs Syndrome person doesn’t enjoy life as much as you and I? But yet, there are many that are so selfish as to say they don’t have a right to live, because they are socially unacceptable.
I totally disagree. A “person”, “human being”, “homo sapien”, whatever term you want to use, is a Scientific medical FACT. Curious how science is conveniently ignored by the left in this case.
kirkill on April 25, 2008 at 1:51 PM
At some point it has a complete and unique human DNA. What point is that?
Akzed on April 25, 2008 at 1:52 PM
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