However, she seems to have difficulty making up her mind ABOUT the gender of Capitalism, at first. She says:

“….capitalism ITSELF, HERSELF — capitalism HIMSELF!”

Sooooo – does that mean DEMOCRACY also has a Male Gender assignation in HER mind?

Just wondering……..

Why is he even in the senate? We can do so much better America.

Mojave Mark on April 27, 2008 at 11:34 AM

I believe Hillary helped him get his speaking spot at the 2004 Democrat Convention. I believe Hillary helped him get elected. I believe that Hillary intended from the beginning for him to be her VP running mate…someone who could help her win, but who would be to “green” to actually challenge her (or so she thought). She thought the combined identity politics ticket of “First Woman President and First Black Vice-President” would be unbeatable.

marxism and Islam are not mutually exclusive

Buy Danish on April 25, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Moreover, radical Marxists and radical Islamic terrorists both hate us and want to detroy us. They don’t have to share ideologies in order to be allies…

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”

Barak Obama’s chances of ever being president and his chances of keeping his senate seat.

Why is he even in the senate? We can do so much better America.

Believe!

“Who cares how he did it[?]“

and

“Different strokes for different folks, if it works – to me that’s all that matters.”

This is known as “the end justifies the means” and is used by every terrorist gang in all of history to justify the evil that they perpetrate.

The end does NOT justify the means, because the means and the end are indistiguishable; the ‘end’ is never achieved; the ‘means’ just keep going on and on.

When Shillbilly gets in and inacts the Fairness Doctrine immediately, we’ll see how you all feel.

And Rush.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 10:18 PM

When the urban neighborhoods burn after your super delegates overthrow Obama, there will be nothing left of Hillary or the Democratic party to elect.

AprilOrit on April 26, 2008 at 12:32 AM

You are clearly indicating that it does not matter how despicable a person is, or how odious their ideas, as long as they work for the greater good and keep the ghettos running smoothly.

Obama is reproach.

Hillary is a scoundrel.

/here is a hankie to dry your tears, April.

Who has Wright, Obama, even Ayes and Dohrn exteriminated lately?

Barak Obama’s chances of ever being president and his chances of keeping his senate seat.

Howie Dean basically stuck the fork in obama tonight.

Look the guy’s obviously a loon, but this obsession with him is ridiculous.
ArilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Really? Would you say the same thing about a neo-Nazi? You are cutting an extremist an awful lot of slack because you think he got the proverbial trains to run on time.

Buy Danish on April 25, 2008 at 11:17 PM

Who has Wright, Obama, even Ayes and Dohrn exteriminated lately?

Look the guy’s obviously a loon, but this obsession with him is ridiculous.
ArilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Really? Would you say the same thing about a neo-Nazi? You are cutting an extremist an awful lot of slack because you think he got the proverbial trains to run on time.

And Rush.

All the great stuff you are saying the Rev. Wright did may be true, but the same thing can be said about Elijah Mohammed, and Minister Farrakhan, or any Nation of Islam leader.

As for chickens coming home to roost, it was a direct quote from Malcolm X.

Buy Danish on April 25, 2008 at 7:56 PM

You’re right, MLK used it, but Malcolm X used it first.

Look the guy’s obviously a loon, but this obsession with him is ridiculous.

You guys won, Hillary is it, but don’t come crying when she pounds McCain into pudding, because that’s what the Clinton machine does.

1) You excused Rev. Wright’s statements as coming from the experiences of his generation. That’s fine for him, but why would you want your daughters to listen to his divisive rhetoric?

2) Rev. Wright, your pastor for 20 years, believes that the U.S. Government puts the drugs into the ghettos. Do you believe this too? If so, feel free to explain in detail.

3) Rev. Wright also believes that the government created the HIV virus as a means of genocide against black people. Do you believe this as well? Again, explain in detail.

4) Rev. Wright stated that 9/11 was “America’s chickens home to roost”. Do you agree?

5) If you don’t agree with any of these positions, then I must ask again… why would you attend and why would you subject your daughters to these teachings?

6) Your website refers to William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn as respected members of the Chicago mainstream. Both are unrepentant domestic terrorists who still to this day advocate the overthrow of the U.S. government. What is your definition of “respected” and “mainstream”, and how do Ayers and Dohrn meet that definition?

7) In your San Francisco “bitter” comments you implied that bitterness at loss of jobs causes people to “cling” to guns, religion, etc. Has it ever crossed your mind that some of us go to church and worship God in good times and in bad? Perhaps not, given where you’ve gone to church… but my church isn’t all about grievances.

8) Also… is it possible that I support the 2nd Amendment, or have an opinion on illegal immigration, for reasons that have nothing to do with economic bitterness?

9) Many of your comments (bitter people clinging to religion, your capital gains tax position, your support of Rev. Wright’s liberation theology) seem to have a significant Marxist influence. Are you a Marxist?

10) You seem to surround yourself with people who have a low opinion of America (Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, Farrakhan, etc.) Even your wife has made several negative statements that had to be “explained” by your campaign. Why should we believe that you can lead and represent all Americans, not just those with racial, social and/or other grievances?

Big whoop.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 7:19 PM

If he was able to bring one prospective unwed mother and her abusive father or uncle who stands to rape, sodomize and eventually impregnate her and a mother who just doesn’t care about her kids or her family to hold it together, so be it.

You think that’s a problem exclusive to ghetto families?

All the great stuff you are saying the Rev. Wright did may be true, but the same thing can be said about Elijah Mohammed, and Minister Farrakhan, or any Nation of Islam leader.

As for chickens coming home to roost, it was a direct quote from Malcolm X.

Update – This is also from TUCoC’s website. I’m using bold type in case there’s something wrong with your eyesight:

The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.

And -

To have a church whose theological perspective starts from the vantage point of Black liberation theology being its center, is not to say that African or African American people are superior to any one else.
I can understand how you missed this salient truth. To argue that Obama didn’t know this is indefensible.

Buy Danish on April 25, 2008 at 6:14 PM

Look, this was all explained, deciphered and debated on Bill O’Reilly. When Wright got the church the neighborhood was a mess, drugs, illegal guns, child pregnancies etc. In was the late 60s and The Black Power angle was more to try to give this losing Black Population something more to focus on than destroying themselves and their own hood.

O’Reilly knows how to sniff out the bare facts, rather than whine about them like Hannity. While he didn’t agree with the goddamn America bit, he basically got to the bottom of this Black angle, and I watched the facts and came to the same conclusion that he did.

Wright did this to change the dynamic of his neighborhood, he increased the membership, I can’t remember how small the number of members it was when he got there, but it was a small congregation, with no money. And it was 1969, MLK and Bobby Kennedy had been assassinated, the neighborhood was a useless slum filled with uncaring apathetic human flotsam and jetsum.

He used this Black angle as a dangling carrot to bring these people to Christ and into to some kind pf faith based life, which is fine with me if that’s the end result.

If he was able to bring one prospective unwed mother and her abusive father or uncle who stands to rape, sodomize and eventually impregnate her and a mother who just doesn’t care about her kids or her family to hold it together, so be it.

He brought faith, hope and improvement to a backward ghetto and for that I applaud him. Who cares how he did it, these people from the UCC in Chicago aren’t ahouldering rifles looking to attack this country and make it the New Africa. And i seriously doubt he or they hate America, that whole spheil about the chickens coming home to roost was a direct quote from MLK, another angry black preacher.

They are a black church that rose out of the ashes of a filthy broken ghetto, nothing more, nothing less. Black liberation theology was/is a plan to present to a black congregation who refused to assume responsibily for their families, their children and their actions, and as I we can see, a radical racial nightmare to naive whites living in a bubble.

Giving them some place to go to worship God while learning how to be good citizens, how to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and be responsible citizens of Chicago and America is a good thing.

Different strokes for different folks, if it works – to me that’s all that matters.

Update – This is also from TUCoC’s website. I’m using bold type in case there’s something wrong with your eyesight:

The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.

And -

To have a church whose theological perspective starts from the vantage point of Black liberation theology being its center, is not to say that African or African American people are superior to any one else.

I can understand how you missed this salient truth. To argue that Obama didn’t know this is indefensible.

1) You excused Rev. Wright’s statements as coming from the experiences of his generation. That’s fine for him, but why would you want your daughters to listen to his divisive, hateful rhetoric?

2) Rev. Wright, your pastor for 20 years, believes that the U.S. Government puts the drugs into the ghettos. Do you believe this too? If so, feel free to explain in detail.

3) Rev. Wright also believes that the government created the HIV virus as a means of genocide against black people. Do you believe this as well? Again, explain in detail.

4) Rev. Wright stated that 9/11 was “America’s chickens home to roost”. Do you agree?

5) If you don’t agree with any of these positions, then I must ask again… why would you attend and why would you subject your daughters to these teachings?

6) Your website refers to William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn as respected members of the Chicago mainstream. Both are unrepentant domestic terrorists who still to this day advocate the overthrow of the U.S. government. What is your definition of “respected” and “mainstream”, and how do Ayers and Dohrn meet that definition?

7) In your San Francisco “bitter” comments you implied that bitterness at loss of jobs causes people to “cling” to guns, religion, etc. Has it ever crossed your mind that some of us go to church and worship God in good times and in bad? Perhaps not, given where you’ve gone to church… but my church isn’t all about grievances.

8) Also… is it possible that I support the 2nd Amendment… or have an opinion on illegal immigration et al, for reasons that have nothing to do with economic bitterness?

9) Many of your comments (bitter people clinging to religion, your capital gains tax position, your support of Rev. Wright’s liberation theology) seem to have a significant Marxist influence. Are you a Marxist?

10) You seem to surround yourself with people who have a low opinion of America (Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, Farrakhan, etc.) Even your wife has made several negative statements that had to be “explained” by your campaign. Why should we believe that you can lead and represent all Americans, not just those with racial, socialist and/or other grievances?

I never believed the BS about his UCC Church, and I don’t believe it about him. But many do, you included. Black Liberation my ass. The guy is Left Wing and maybe a loon but the very idea that Ayers and Dorn want him elected to overthrow the government is sheer lunacy.

That’s loon babble Ms Thing.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 5:10 PM

You don’t believe it? It’s on their website, as is the great big map of Africa Why do you think that is I wonder? I’m dealing with indisputable facts, unlike your claims that violent freepers are all set to lynch Jeremiah Wright, which I see you have yet to substantiate.

In case you missed it, the topic of this thread is Obama’s judgment. No one has said that Ayers and Dhorn want him elected to overthrow the government. They would not object if he did, but obviously that is not Barry’s goal. People like Barry are more interested in incremental changes than revolution.

From the video:

“Overthrowing capitalism itself…herself…himself.” Damned post-modern feminist trip ups!

Not just “capitalism”…EVIL capitalism. Ain’t nuthin’ funnier than a bunch of old hippies suffering from random flashbacks…