Judgment now a distraction? Update: “Overthrow” video added

posted at 8:24 am on April 25, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Remember when Barack Obama tried to explain why his lack of experience didn’t really matter? He told rapturous audiences that his superior judgment mattered more than Hillary Clinton’s long years inside the Beltway. Obama claimed that his terrific hindsight qualified him for the presidency much more than John McCain’s 26 years in Congress.

However, now that people have begun to take a closer look at his judgment, especially in his political associations and in his judgment about middle America, Obama has taken to calling that a “distraction”. Charles Krauthammer replies that Obama had better remember the nature of the office for which he’s running:

With that, Obama identified the new public enemy: the “distractions” foisted upon a pliable electorate by the malevolent forces of the status quo, i.e., those who might wish to see someone else become president next January. “It’s easy to get caught up in the distractions and the silliness and the tit for tat that consumes our politics” and “trivializes the profound issues” that face our country, he warned sternly. These must be resisted.

Why? Because Obama understands that the real threat to his candidacy is less Hillary Clinton and John McCain than his own character and cultural attitudes. He came out of nowhere with his autobiography already written, then saw it embellished daily by the hagiographic coverage and kid-gloves questioning of a supine press. (Which is why those “Saturday Night Live” parodies were so devastatingly effective.)

Then came the three amigos: Tony Rezko, the indicted fixer; Jeremiah Wright, the racist reverend; William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist. And then Obama’s own anthropological observation that “bitter” working-class whites cling to guns and religion because they misapprehend their real class interests.

In the now-famous Pennsylvania debate, Obama had extreme difficulty answering questions about these associations and attitudes. The difficulty is understandable. Some of the contradictions are inexplicable. How does one explain campaigning throughout 2007 on a platform of transcending racial divisions, while in that same year contributing $26,000 to a church whose pastor incites race hatred?

What is Obama to do? Dismiss all such questions about his associations and attitudes as “distractions.” And then count on his acolytes in the media to wage jihad against those who have the temerity to raise these questions. As if the character and beliefs of a man who would be president are less important than the “issues.” As if some political indecency was committed when Obama was prevented from going through his latest — 21st and likely last — primary debate without being asked about Wright or Ayers or the tribal habits of gun-toting, God-loving Pennsylvanians.

Remember that one of the campaign slogans for Obama was “Judgment to Lead”. I often use the picture of Obama with that slogan on the lectern just to emphasize that Obama himself opened the debate over his judgment. Now that people want to start asking about the judgment he claims as his superior quality for the election, he wants to label it a “distraction”, but without it he has nothing else to offer except three undistinguished years as a backbencher in the Senate.

With no track record of legislative accomplishments and no evidence of any real engagement in change, judgment would have eventually become a focal issue for Obama anyway, even if he hadn’t brought it up himself. That means his judgment in launching his political career at the home of an unrepentant terrorist like William Ayers becomes relevant and germane, especially since the political connections between the two continued after Ayers announced that he wished he’d gone further in his political violence. Even in 2007, Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn talk about overthrowing the “corporate government” of the United States, to replace it with something more akin to Red China.

What is Obama’s judgment on Ayers and Dohrn? They’re “respectable figures of the mainstream in Chicago.”

For that matter, what is Obama’s judgment on middle America? In what he thought was a friendly crowd among the hard-Left elite in San Francisco, Obama judged small-town voters as bitter xenophobes that “cling” to guns and religion only because — and this is particularly revealing — “government failed them”. His solution was to provide an even bigger dose of government intervention in order to get them to see the Utopia that would follow. That was the point of that speech on Billionaires Row, which later got termed “Crackerquiddick”.

For someone to see Ayers, Dohrn, and Jeremiah Wright as mainstream, they have to be very far out of what the rest of the country sees as normal political thought. Distraction? Obama’s judgment is a revelation.

Update: Via Hugh Hewitt, here’s Bernadine Dohrn speaking at the 40th anniversary of the SDS, talking about “overthrowing” the American government — in 2007:

Barack Obama thinks this is mainstream.

Update II: Stuart Taylor, a self-described admirer of Barack Obama, writes at the National Journal that questions of judgment and character are not “distractions”, but central to the decision voters must make. Scolding journalists who shrieked at the April 16th ABC debate and the questions asked by George Stephanopolous and Charles Gibson, Taylor says the issues raised in the first half of the debate hardly qualify as “gossip”, but go to these paramount considerations:

Burke and Madison might well have approved the judgment-focused questions that pro-Obama journalists have so furiously excoriated moderators Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos, of ABC News, for asking at the April 16 debate between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton. The Washington Post’s Tom Shales accused the two of “shoddy, despicable performances.” The New Yorker’s Hendrik Hertzberg said that they had committed “something akin to a federal crime.” The New York Times’s David Carr called it a “disgusting spectacle.”

Such commentators were especially livid that for much of the first half of the two-hour debate the moderators bored in on Obama’s gaffe about “bitter” laid-off small-towners who “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them”; questioned his closeness to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright through many years of Wright’s anti-American, white-bashing rants; and brought up his more glancing connection to William Ayers, a University of Illinois professor who was a Weather Underground leader and (by his own admission) bomber almost 40 years ago.

Many who have been disposed to admire Obama, including me, see these matters as raising troublesome questions about his judgment and character. Many of us have come to wonder whether the purportedly post-ideological Obama is so close to his party’s business-bashing, pacifistic left wing as to skew his judgment on matters ranging from the capital-gains tax to Iraq. Perhaps our suspicions are mistaken. But Obama has hardly laid them to rest.

To passionate Obama devotees, however, questions about Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, and the like are “specious and gossipy trivia,” in Shales’s words. They wanted Gibson and Stephanopoulos—who also asked about Iran, Iraq, affirmative action, guns, and taxes (not to mention Hillary Clinton’s fantasies about coming under sniper fire in Bosnia)—to spend the entire time on policy issues.

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Words don’t matter; judgement doesn’t matter.
What does matter Barry and do you have it?

RobCon on April 25, 2008 at 8:28 AM

This is a very dangerous man.

pecan pie on April 25, 2008 at 8:34 AM

This clown can’t win……….can he?

D0WNT0WN on April 25, 2008 at 8:35 AM

What does matter Barry and do you have it?

RobCon on April 25, 2008 at 8:28 AM

A question like that is a distraction. Focus on his message of hope and change.

/sarc

F15Mech on April 25, 2008 at 8:36 AM

D0WNT0WN on April 25, 2008 at 8:35 AM

The Congress, and state houses, are full of people who can’t win.

Limerick on April 25, 2008 at 8:41 AM

The problem is for McCain NOT to do or say something so profoundly stupid and anti-Republican for the next 6 1/2 months.

The problem is, the big jerk can’t help himself.

And what is the REPUBLICAN nominee doing taking public finds for his campaign like some damn welfare queen?
Where are the coattails for the rest of his party?

TexasJew on April 25, 2008 at 8:48 AM

Obviously, anything that gets into Obama’s ascension into heaven is a “distraction”.

Look dude, if you win, you’re going to use what passes for your concept of “judgment”, to pick a cabinet.

An unelected cabinet, with great powers over the American people.

Why can’t the media point that out? Why do “journalists” miss the simplest points?

If he picks a freakshow cabinet like he picks his lunatic preacher and his terrorist buddies, the American people will be impacted severely.

NoDonkey on April 25, 2008 at 8:48 AM

Us: Why are you better than Hillary?

O: Judgement.

Us: Why did you judge Rev. Wright a good spiritual advisor

O: I stand for Hope and Change.

Us: What makes you superior on the issues?

O: Judgement

Us: Why do you side with terrorists and Marxists then?

O: I stand for Hope and Change

Us: Why does your “change” sound a lot like the hard left status quo?

O: I STAND FOR HOPE AND CHANGE YOU BIBLE TOTING GUN LOVING XENOPHOBES, NOW LEAVE ME ALONE!

Us: Saying that wasn’t really excercising sound judgement.

O: No more questions.

BKennedy on April 25, 2008 at 8:50 AM

This is a very dangerous man.
pecan pie on April 25, 2008 at 8:34 AM

Yes he is pecan pie! My biggest concern with Obama is simply who/what owns this man. He is a creation, he hasn’t earned the privilege to run for the highest office in our country. This man’s credits/accomplishments are invisible, leaving his supporters no other choice than to fabricate talking points in defense of his lack of qualifications. Playing the people for complete fools? The fact that a man/woman with no qualifications for this position, can be in the race (let alone winning) is a sign of what has become of our political choices.

Quite frankly, who in their right mind would want to make a career in this business when the art of “political assassination” has torn down any boundaries that once existed. Having the media (including television and movie makers) entirely in the same camp with (1) political party has all but destroyed the integrity of the system.

Keemo on April 25, 2008 at 8:51 AM

The thought that people would actually support this clown is an embarrassment to me as an American.

Pachyderm on April 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM

You know I just thought of something.
The reason obama has such an urgency to register new voters is because those of us who have been around awhile can see through him.

ArmyAunt on April 25, 2008 at 8:54 AM

What is Obama’s judgment on Ayers and Dohrn? They’re “respectable figures of the mainstream in Chicago.”

It’s so because he said it. Every liar counts being called a liar a greater offense than his being a liar.

Hussein, as a Typical Liberal Person, has emotional problems involving guilt and envy. Everything he says, every plan he has for us, is designed to assuage his guilt or punish those he envies. Asking hard questions or criticizing his agenda are therefore seen as sharp personal attacks, not just inquisitiveness or policy differences.

Typical Liberal Person.

Akzed on April 25, 2008 at 8:55 AM

I can see the commercial in my mind now, which should air on a continuous loop during late summer/fall:

–string together video, audio, textquotes of Ayers, Dorhn, and maybe even a sprinkling of Wright

–followup with Obama calling them ‘friendly,’ particulary the ‘mainstream’ comment, generally refusing to disavow them

–end with “if that’s his judgement, that is Change we can’t afford”

How much can one get for consulting fees these days?

JamesLee on April 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM

BTW, has anyone ever figured out just what his “community organizing” was all about? Someone here mentioned that a while back, and I’ve never heard more

JamesLee on April 25, 2008 at 8:58 AM

All of Hot Air is a distraction. There’s lots of talent here and a few years in a reeducation camp should be a first step toward earning back your right to freedom of speech.

snaggletoothie on April 25, 2008 at 8:58 AM

Racists! How dare you question The Obamassiah! Come the revolution, er, election you will all be sent to reeducation camps allowed to think about and change your racist ways. Remember, if you vote for anyone other than The Obamassiah, even a white woman, it is because you are a racist.

rbj on April 25, 2008 at 8:59 AM

What is Obama’s judgment on Ayers and Dohrn? They’re “respectable figures of the mainstream in Chicago.”

Reminder #536 that liberals wouldn’t know the mainstream if they fell into it.

Jaibones on April 25, 2008 at 8:59 AM

Thankfully, there is one Democrat who is not starstruck by him.

GO HILLARY!!!

Greenhorn on April 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM

The Jacobins have their candidate and I hope they delude themselves into thinking that Obama’s ultimate defeat is simply a function of racism.

moxie_neanderthal on April 25, 2008 at 9:06 AM

He told us already that he isn’t going to answer our silly distracting questions until he finishes his waffle, so quit nagging!

drunyan8315 on April 25, 2008 at 9:09 AM

Distraction? What the bleep is that?

He ain’t seen nothing yet! Probably most of the people on this site are more qualified and have better judgement to be President (and I mean that seriously!!!!) than this joke. He has no clue what is in store for him as POTUS. Good lord, is he going to sit in the corner and suck his thumb when a crisis hits…on top of all the other serious problems and “distractions” faced by a President?

This is INSANE people! How in the world can a man so clearly not even remotely qualified to be President stand on the verge of doing just that? What a nightmare!

libhater on April 25, 2008 at 9:13 AM

I caught Greta’s show on Fox last night and she played
Ayers speech on America,and this guy is an extreme
leftwing LoonBat nut!PERIOD!

And this guys a professor!

And Obama knows this guy!

And just because you hang out with LoonBats,and Moonbats
doesn’t necessarily mean you hold the same views———-
—————PLEASE!

And add in Rev.Wright’s comments,oh and the latest is Rev.
Wright is saying he was soundbited,correction Rev.Wright
Fox News played the entire comments that you said,with no
editing!

So all in all,Obama, the company you keep,are all extremists,totally out of touch with mainstream America!

canopfor on April 25, 2008 at 9:16 AM

And then count on his acolytes in the media to wage jihad against those who have the temerity to raise these questions.

Exactly. You could palpably feel the restraint of certain writers not writing “Barack Obama (pbuh)” in their articles.

Niko on April 25, 2008 at 9:17 AM

He told us already…
drunyan8315 on April 25,2008 at 9:09AM

drunyan8315: Just great,Wafflegate!

canopfor on April 25, 2008 at 9:21 AM

I can see the commercial in my mind now, which should air on a continuous loop during late summer/fall:

–string together video, audio, textquotes of Ayers, Dorhn, and maybe even a sprinkling of Wright

–followup with Obama calling them ‘friendly,’ particulary the ‘mainstream’ comment, generally refusing to disavow them

–end with “if that’s his judgement, that is Change we can’t afford”

How much can one get for consulting fees these days?

JamesLee on April 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM

Not if McCain is running hisown campaign. He already told the NC GOP to pull a commercial that had that sort of thing in it. McCain wants to run on issues against a man who is running on hope and change. If he keeps that up McCain loses.

johnsteele on April 25, 2008 at 9:21 AM

One of the reasons Obama’s circle of friends, mentors, and acquaintances have been become such an issue is because Obama, himself, becomes boring quickly. There is no real substance to the man. He is not deep. He is certainly no intellectual. Rather, he is shallow and superficial, and, let’s face it, nothing more than an attractive distraction from the real issues this country faces.

Connie on April 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

Obama is a pathetic hack and a traitor to America.

Grafted on April 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

have=has

Connie on April 25, 2008 at 9:26 AM

The thought that people would actually support this clown is an embarrassment to me as an American.

Pachyderm on April 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM

Many people say they would be “proud” to support him.

Just as scary is that there are almost as many who would support and vote for his Demcorat opponent.

Be afraid.

Del Dolemonte on April 25, 2008 at 9:33 AM

I can forgive The Washington Post pretty much anything as long as Krauthammer still writes for it.

mymanpotsandpans on April 25, 2008 at 9:34 AM

Yep Del, I am afraid… VERY afraid.

Pachyderm on April 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Video Update: wow, what a couple of stirring, intellectual public speakers. Are these clowns kidding us?

Jaibones on April 25, 2008 at 9:41 AM

It is extremely relevant who BHO is associated with. All you have to do is listen to his wife talk and realize there is a very clear connection philosophically to these people.
Birds of a feather and BHO is part of the flock!

libhater on April 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM

JamesLee,
Great idea. SCrew waiting for someone to make it though, shold peice it together, put some music in the back ground and put it on you tube.

Wyrd on April 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM

Connie on April 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

Precisely.

a capella on April 25, 2008 at 9:44 AM

…but without it he has nothing else to offer except three undistinguished years as a backbencher in the Senate and being black.

Fixed it for you.

Kafir on April 25, 2008 at 9:45 AM

Of course, everyone in politics ties themselves to MLK.
*
I would love to hear David Horowitz’s take on this. Being as we was at the very formation of the SDS, and knows them better then any other commentator.
*
How about a comment from David Ed…

right2bright on April 25, 2008 at 9:48 AM

From the video:

“Overthrowing capitalism itself…herself…himself.” Damned post-modern feminist trip ups!

Cuffy Meigs on April 25, 2008 at 9:53 AM

Wyrd on April 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM

Just remember, we can’t do this too soon–we don’t want it to flame out and be forgotten come November.

I’m also willing to bet SOMEone is holding onto some video of the Wright Stuff, where he’s saying something even more wackadoodle, with the Obamassiah in the frame.

JamesLee on April 25, 2008 at 9:59 AM

The ‘phants need to play these things long and hard–not necessarily now, before the donk convention, but between then and November. Make sure Americans know what BO considers mainstream. Ignore accusations of “distraction from the real issues,” and hammer home the message: these are the real issues–at least BO’s. Are they yours too?

I don’t think they are, but if people don’t know about it…not everyone blogs. How would they know if the GOP doesn’t spend some cash to educate them?

Bob's Kid on April 25, 2008 at 10:17 AM

Barack Obama thinks this is mainstream.

No, I don’t think he does. He thinks it is the truth, which is far more frightening.

Mr. Bingley on April 25, 2008 at 10:19 AM

The problem is for McCain NOT to do or say something so profoundly stupid and anti-Republican for the next 6 1/2 months.

The problem is, the big jerk can’t help himself.

And what is the REPUBLICAN nominee doing taking public finds for his campaign like some damn welfare queen?
Where are the coattails for the rest of his party?

TexasJew on April 25, 2008 at 8:48 AM

Many people in the Republican party feel the same way you do.

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Do I need to post the quote from Obama’s own speech last year where he makes it clear that Rev. Wright’s “Social[ist] Gospel” is his inspiration to incite rebellion and “bring an empire to its knees”?

I’ve posted that quote at least a dozen times.

It is clear to me that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is a Socialist/Communist revolutionary.

Ask him to denounce Karl Marx.

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Some what OT, but who’s the buffoon who introduced Dohrn?
This guy was in full leftist regalia, beard, long hair, buttons worn prodly on his chest like war medals. Betcha one of them said “No blood for oil,” or had a W with a line thru it. Whenever I see a anti-Bush, or anti-war, or pro-liberal cause bumpersticker, I take a look at the driver. If it’s a dude, 90% of the time he’s sporting a beard. That’s THE madatory part of the leftist uniform.

ernie on April 25, 2008 at 10:30 AM

The drummer was Dustin Fulton, an MSU sophomore from Laingsburg. Fulton, in addition to being a part-time rock and roller, is also a founding member of the revived Students for a Democratic Society, or SDS, at MSU, now all of 15 members strong.

15 members?? Now that’s hilarious.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 10:30 AM

And then count on his acolytes in the media to wage jihad against those who have the temerity to raise these questions.

Obama belongs in a college classroom teaching the children of White folks that are willing to mortgage their guns and trailers to pay 50K as year in tuition, so their kids can listen to this pretender make like the prophetic descendant of Chicken George, kissed by an angel, and filled with answers to change the world.

He and his radical, racist, bomb-throwing buds can then all sit back, enjoy tenure, collect their pensions and dream the dream of destroying what it is that keeps this country going.

Hening on April 25, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Is there anyone here that hasn’t concluded what Obama means when he talks about change?

swami on April 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Do I need to post the quote from Obama’s own speech last year where he makes it clear that Rev. Wright’s “Social[ist] Gospel” is his inspiration to incite rebellion and “bring an empire to its knees”?

I’ve posted that quote at least a dozen times.

It is clear to me that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is a Socialist/Communist revolutionary.

Ask him to denounce Karl Marx.

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Stop the insanity, please. This man is not a Marxist, you are doing guilt by association, and we can play that game on The Right as well, or on anyone for that matter, based on the blogs you read, where you written columns, work is published, i.e., websites. The guilt by association is heresay.

Meanwhile, the New SDS – 15 members strong. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. It’s a joke, like Ward Churchill was a joke, all lies and garbage. The young people of today have evolved obviously, and they are not joining the SDS or listening to these old tired hippies who lost their way long ago.

Barack Obama was never Fit For Command, and as I have been saying since Day 1 – will never win, could never win, this guy is getting no way near the Presidency, period. So relax, he was never going to be President, even if he won the general.

Exit question – and if he’s a Marxist – what’s Lady Cankles??

She’s my larger concern.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM

I’m also willing to bet SOMEone is holding onto some video of the Wright Stuff, where he’s saying something even more wackadoodle, with the Obamassiah in the frame.

JamesLee on April 25, 2008 at 9:59 AM

I’ve always thought Her Majesty’s team is sitting on evidence like this. She may not even publicize it but use it to quietly extort the superdelegates with the threat to go public. It just has a Clintonian ring to it.

a capella on April 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM

I think 20 years from now we are going to look back in utter amazement at how close we came to being flim-flammed by this charlatan.

Of course, Obama would not have been able to get this far if someone other than Hillary Clinton were his main opponent. A great deal of Obama’s support comes from rank and file Democrats who are simply sick of the Clintons and their sense of entitlement, and knew the Republicans were salivating at a general election against Hillary.

The Obama “true believers” have made his campaign into a movement that is something scary and fascistic, but at its heart it is mostly an anyone-but-Hillary effort.

rockmom on April 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Youtube link of Hannity and Wright, with Colmes acting stupid

Ask yourself who would follow a guy like this…he is totally nuts.

Where is the dividing line between the crap this guy talks and what Barry believes?

Coojeechagaleeya, I mean, does Barry believe that?

Fujimamkayak, what about that?

LMAO, he is insane!!!

benrand on April 25, 2008 at 10:50 AM

Hmmm, the SDS, who bore Bill Ayers, who inspired Barack Obama, is considering taking down the Republican convention. How convenient…

MadisonConservative on April 25, 2008 at 10:37 AM

With 15 members?? Now I’ll go along with Rush for the first time in my life – that I want to see. They’re not taking down that convention, this will never happen in 2008 in the United States of America.

I’m sorry guys, I don’t believe it will happen. Lady Cankles will get her wish, it’s her turn, rah, rah, rah and they will march behind her like the sheep.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Well said, Ed. In a vacuum, which accurately describes not only Obama’s legislative career but the voting element of said career (present), judgment is all that’s left. You take on one ‘crazy aunt/uncle in the attic’, I don’t learn much. You’re surrounded by them, I learn a lot. With Barack, the media has barely scratched the surface and I have learned more than enough.

thirtypundit on April 25, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Believe…. believe… believe…!

You are getting sleepy… sleepy… Sleeeeeepy!

Obama, the Mesmer for the Left.

profitsbeard on April 25, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Exit question – and if he’s a Marxist – what’s Lady Cankles??

She’s my larger concern.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Sure he is. Look at his mentors, people with whom he chooses to associate, his concept that taxation is used not to bring in revenue, but redistribute wealth to be fair.
Her Majesty is an egomaniacal elitist and pragmatic politician, who wants increased taxes to do what she thinks is best for her political goals. She is not driven by ideology,..he is.

a capella on April 25, 2008 at 10:53 AM

This clown can’t win……….can he?
D0WNT0WN on April 25, 2008 at 8:35 AM

If Barack Obama wins, he and Michelle are inviting William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn to stay overnight in the Lincoln Bedroom.

A nice payback for starting his political career in their house, don’t you think?

wise_man on April 25, 2008 at 10:54 AM

You know in the very beginning I was more afraid of Ron Paul making it than Obama, actually.

Because he had so many of those anti war/anti government types behind him, I thought he had a good chance of becomimg the GOP candidate for a brief moment. Then I snapped out of it and brought myself back to reality.

There are so many on The Old Right who hate Bush, the war, the way the government has grown and taken excess liberties under this President. His followers seemed very similar to the Obama people, they had/have a general dislike for the govt as it is.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM

Well, at least Barack doesn’t accept money from Big Oil Companies!

TooTall on April 25, 2008 at 11:02 AM

Her Majesty is an egomaniacal elitist and pragmatic politician, who wants increased taxes to do what she thinks is best for her political goals. She is not driven by ideology,..he is.

a capella on April 25, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Well, you all better hope and pray she doesn’t some how Clinton this election and win come November.

That’s all I’m saying. Obama would have never gotten out of the gate against McCain, her, I’m not so sure.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM

It does indeed indicate a stunning lack of judgment when Obama waves away the unrepentant terrorist past of Ayers because he was hailed to be a “sensitive and gifted writer” by… Studs Terkel.

Terkel won the 1985 Pulitzer Prize for The Good War, which challenged the prevailing notion that, in contrast to the Vietnam War era, World War II was a time of unblemished national solidarity, goodwill, and unified purpose.

This is a minor point, but I also found it very funny that Dhorn stumbles in her overthrow America speech in the linked video and says that we need to overthrow capitalism himself then immediately corrects it to herself. Just how vacuous is Dhorn’s feminist manifesto? Very!

Buy Danish on April 25, 2008 at 11:08 AM

profitsbeard on April 25, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Please don’t take the dopamine outta my koolaid. I’d have to kill myself…or sumthin’. The whole world will go to he11 in a handbasket without our Obamessiah. What will happen to hope and to change? Who will take care of me? /s

Connie on April 25, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Maybe if Obama had presented an idea worth discussing we would be talking about that, but we got nothing, so we talk about the ideas of the people he hangs out with.

pedestrian on April 25, 2008 at 11:31 AM

McCain might be biding his time right now, wondering whether Obama would be a weaker opponent in the general election, and if he openly tries to take down Obama using Obama’s ties to these radicals, the super-delegates might panic and nominate Hillary, who has baggage, but not THIS bad.

The other point is that if McCain does take public financing, conservatives don’t have to contribute to his general election campaign, once the conventions are over. Conservatives can then concentrate on 527 groups to run ads linking Obama to these wild-eyed radicals. Those Swift Boat ads in 2004 that re-ran Kerry’s lies before the Senate in 1971 were pretty effective–how about some ads showing what Ayers and Dohrn did in the 1960′s, saying that they don’t regret what they did, and that THEY launched Obama’s political career? Not to mention some Jeremiah Wright ads, some “bitter people clinging to religion ads” in PA and OH, and we don’t know what might come out of the Rezko trial between now and November.

This will be fun next fall…

Steve Z on April 25, 2008 at 11:41 AM

As I wrote to Krauthammer in response to his article:

In regard to Obama’s distractions, I’ve often wondered why so many people claim a political campaign should be a matter of addressing the issues. Certainly, the issues are important and we need to hear what the candidates think about them. But in the future of that candidate’s presidency, there will be other issues. And how are we to know how those issues will be addressed unless we know the character and values of the candidate? Obama says he’s a patriot. In this view, that’s probably true. But does he love his country? If you love someone, you give that person the benefit of a doubt, no matter what is said about him or her. You get offended, if not downright hostile, when someone disparages the one you love. The problem with Obama and the other leftists is that they only love this country if it conforms to their expectations, like the woman who is constantly trying to remake her man into her imagined hunk but remains disappointed that he doesn’t go to the gym. True patriots love this country for all its faults and rather than expounding to the world about America’s wrongs, just quietly try to make them right. That’s the real problem with Obama. He doesn’t love this country and how can you trust a man like that with the issues?

NNtrancer on April 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Without character or experience, B. Hussein Obama is reduced to the value of his fancy suit.

Cicero43 on April 25, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Obama judged small-town voters as bitter xenophobes that “cling” to guns and religion only because — and this is particularly revealing — “government failed them”.

I believe Obama has no clue what middle America thinks or feels. But he does know about his constituency back in the inner city of Chicago, and I suspect it’s fair to say that the blacks there are bitter because they believe the government has failed them by not providing jobs and whatever else they want. Obama probably thinks that’s normal for America. So much for judgment.

NNtrancer on April 25, 2008 at 11:49 AM

B-b-b-b-but, I thought, we were all staying home on election day…’Cause McCain is a poopy-head !!??!!

whut t’do?…whut..to..do?…we need guidance.

franksalterego on April 25, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Let’s also remember that Wright has gotten death threats, which is not cool.

I know the Freeper Loons are salivating about showing up to protest and lynch this guy (they always make honest Republicans look like we all belong to Stromfront et al), but the word on the street is he ain’t speaking there, it’s going to be cancelled.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM

A seditious traitor, gettin’ death-threats?

go figure

franksalterego on April 25, 2008 at 12:00 PM

Stop the insanity, please. This man is not a Marxist
AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Ask him to denounce Karl Marx.

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 12:05 PM

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM
A seditious traitor, gettin’ death-threats?

go figure

franksalterego on April 25, 2008 at 12:00 PM

This is the USA, we are civilized, we do not kill people or threaten to kill them. It’s irresponsible and it paints all of us as racist loons.

What’s the difference between Ayres – a Far Left loon and the Freepers – far Right loons? Nada in my book.

Too much Ted Kaczynski and Timothy McVey make Uncle Sam and Lady Liberty an unhappy couple.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Stop the insanity, please. This man is not a Marxist
AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Ask him to denounce Karl Marx.

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Are you really serious?

Again, we are going down the John Birch Highway on HA and it’s a bumpy road…with a hard right turn at Loonville.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:15 PM

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Hog – freakin’ – Wash

It doesn’t surprise me, one bit.

Republicans NO ONE, except Wright, is responsible for the sh!t comin’ outta’ his mouth.

franksalterego on April 25, 2008 at 12:15 PM

I mean first he was a Muslim, now a Marxist, The Right says he’s too black, The Left not black enough.

The guy was a loser from day 1.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:17 PM

The fact that Benardine Dohrn has a law degree and teaches law and that Bill Ayers is a professor of education grates me beyond words. Where is the justice in the heights these two anarchists/subsersives have scaled? They continue to do their mischief by rotting our society from within.

In a perfect world, those two unrepentant criminals would still now be panhandling on the streets of San Francisco, still in tie-dye rags and beads. Can’t you see them plotting against the evil “empire” outside the Pacific Heights mansion where Obama was expounding his what’s-wrong-with-middle-America speech for the elite?

onlineanalyst on April 25, 2008 at 12:20 PM

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Hog – freakin’ – Wash

It doesn’t surprise me, one bit.

Republicans NO ONE, except Wright, is responsible for the sh!t comin’ outta’ his mouth.

franksalterego on April 25, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Ok, no one is debating that, I never once said the GOP was responsible for him. I said the Freepers are loons.

But let me clarify your position – you are saying you think it’s ok to threaten him with death…like a crazy Muslim would do in the same position against our freedom of speech?

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Well, you all better hope and pray she doesn’t some how Clinton this election and win come November.

That’s all I’m saying. Obama would have never gotten out of the gate against McCain, her, I’m not so sure.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Read Hillary’s 2008 Game Plan.

It’s difficult to say, but I think Hillary may pull it out and win the Democrat nomination. If she does, most of Obama’s followers will follow Obama’s lead. If he decides to submit to Hillary and be her VP, they will be “unified”. If he doesn’t, it’s hard to say what would happen. They may just try to bomb both conventions and try to start a revolution. Seriously, I wouldn’t put it past these people. They want a revolution.

I think that:
In a Clinton vs. McCain match up, Hillary wins, but
In a Clinton vs. Huckabee match up, Huckabee wins.

Hillary likes to talk about what she’ll find under the oval office rug after W leaves, but Huckabee knows first hand the mess left behind by the Clintons.

Hillary used the FBI and IRS against her enemies. I feel certain that she has the dirt she needs to defeat McCain. But she can’t use dirt against Huckabee. If she even tried to, her own skeletons would be brought out of the closet.

Huckabee went up against the Arkansas Democrat machine four times and won each time. Mike Huckabee is the next President of the United States.

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM

“The gov’t gave blacks cocaine, so they could be thrown in jail!”

The president’s power of pardons?

think about it

franksalterego on April 25, 2008 at 12:26 PM

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Don’t put words in my mouth

franksalterego on April 25, 2008 at 12:27 PM

It never ceases to amaze me, how many will defend the Messiah at all cost. Will one of his apologist please give me one fault that Obama currently has. I don’t like to speak for others, but this typical white-winger has been waiting for this fight with the far-left for many years. I am not sure how my fellow right-wingers feel, but I say that it is as easy as “It’s Marxism. Stupid”. Obama was reared on a leftist platform, and has never bothered to distance himself from their outrages American-hating beliefs. Conservatives have had a hard time exposing the far-left because they hide behind their moderate Democratic allies. Hopefully, with the split starting to develop within the Democratic Party (How is that Maddow?) will allow the far-left to be seen for what they really are. Obama’s association with Black Liberation Theology, being an Alinksy inspired “Communist” organizer, “Friends” with an unrepentent radical terrorist, and his moonbat wife, will ,and should be questioned when it comes to Obama’s judgement. I think by the fall, these association’s, as well as many others, will be front, and center. As they should be.

chief on April 25, 2008 at 12:31 PM

The fact that Benardine Dohrn has a law degree and teaches law and that Bill Ayers is a professor of education grates me beyond words. Where is the justice in the heights these two anarchists/subsersives have scaled? They continue to do their mischief by rotting our society from within.

In a perfect world, those two unrepentant criminals would still now be panhandling on the streets of San Francisco, still in tie-dye rags and beads. Can’t you see them plotting against the evil “empire” outside the Pacific Heights mansion where Obama was expounding his what’s-wrong-with-middle-America speech for the elite?

onlineanalyst on April 25, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Thanks to Deep Throat who was the FBI agent in charge, he blew the investigation.

They would never be panhandling, Ayers was the son of Thomas G. Ayers, former Chairman and CEO of Commonwealth Edison. She was a cheerleader in high school, grew up in a good family from Minnesota. She graduated law school in 1967, way before she got involved with the SDS.

They both grew up in good American families, I think Republican. Not much different than Ann Coulter, they just took a different turn and didn’t embrace their parents politics.

They were typical ’60s rich kids who decided to fight the establishment they grew up in.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:31 PM

I’m sure Ayres had a trust fund or two hidden in there somewhere, you can kind of smell it.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:32 PM

Nothing is easier than to give Christian asceticism a socialist tinge.

That applies to Barack Obama.
It applies to Hillary Clinton.

But who said it?

Karl Marx and Frederick Engels 160 years ago…
1848 Manifesto of the Communist Party

With the stark contrast between the poverty of North Korea and the prosperity of South Korea, it is amazing to me that anyone still thinks that Marxist ideas are better than capitalism. Yet, how many Marxists do we have teaching at colleges today?

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 12:50 PM

They both grew up in good American families, I think Republican. Not much different than Ann Coulter, they just took a different turn and didn’t embrace their parents politics.

They were typical ’60s rich kids who decided to fight the establishment they grew up in.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Ann Coulter believes in God. These other two probably accepted the lie of Darwinian evolution and rejected God.

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 12:54 PM

I know the Freeper Loons are salivating about showing up to protest and lynch this guy (they always make honest Republicans look like we all belong to Stromfront et al), but the word on the street is he ain’t speaking there, it’s going to be cancelled.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Your statements are becoming more and more moronic every day.

Connie on April 25, 2008 at 12:57 PM

They both grew up in good American families, I think Republican. Not much different than Ann Coulter, they just took a different turn and didn’t embrace their parents politics.

They were typical ’60s rich kids who decided to fight the establishment they grew up in.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Ann Coulter believes in God. These other two probably accepted the lie of Darwinian evolution and rejected God.

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Well, Ayres is a jew and she was born Catholic, but I am not going to assume what their religious beliefs were, I’m not that looney.

I know the Freeper Loons are salivating about showing up to protest and lynch this guy (they always make honest Republicans look like we all belong to Stromfront et al), but the word on the street is he ain’t speaking there, it’s going to be cancelled.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Your statements are becoming more and more moronic every day.

Connie on April 25, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Maybe to you Connie because you embrace that American following Islamisc standards routine when it fits; and you think it’s ok.

I don’t and I refuse to be a hypocrite because you guys think the streets of Freeperville are paved in rational American behavior, goodwill and truthiness.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Your statements are becoming more and more moronic every day.

Connie on April 25, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Take a look in your mirror, or you better not because under your rational thought you would be wearing a burka.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 1:09 PM

I mean first he was a Muslim, now a Marxist,

Since when are those mutually exclusive? I should think that Muslim dictatorships would be pretty in line with the Marxist points of view. No one owns anything, you get whatevs the government chooses to give you, and you like the rules, not matter how brutal because that’s what it’s supposed to be like. It’s just that Muslim governments enforce sharia law and Marxists don’t believe in God.

mjk on April 25, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Meanwhile Ayres and Dorhn, like Churchhill or worse, by far the biggest publicity whores going, and they are on the front page of every paper in America.

America has now mainstreamed the Left Wing’s worst example of loons since the Unabomber, and they are loving it. They are getting the attention they craved and never quite got enough of. Just watching that loon get together you can see it. The way he’s so self lauding about his past drug use, she’s going on about herself. And they didn’t want Ward Churchill to get any of that attention, they threw him under the bus.

The same with Wright, they’re publicity whores, every last one of them, and the MSM and the bloggers have bit the bullet.

Bill Moyers is an idiot, he wanted on that show for ratings. Wright should not be silenced, he just shouldn’t be booked anywhere to speak.

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 1:19 PM

AprilOrit on April 25, 2008 at 1:07 PM

You accused Freepers of wanting to lynch Wright. That is a blatant lie. I’ve held off posting to you, but that went way over the line and I stand by my original post.

Your statements are becoming more and more moronic every day.

I will also add that your continued arrogance at HA is not doing McCain any favors at all, which is something you don’t seem to understand. There are many here who will vote for him whether they care for him or not. Your posts do him more damage than good.

Connie on April 25, 2008 at 1:20 PM

OT folks, please forgive me but I’m having an annoying computer issue…

Anyone out there use Firefox? I rebooted this AM & now HotAir looks WRONG when using Firefox although when I click on “Headlines” comments everthing looks normal. HotAir comes in fine in IE – which I hate. This happened before & I somehow got it fixed but don’t remember how.

Anybody got any encounter this problem? Any ideas?

Again, I apologize for going OT.

Pachyderm on April 25, 2008 at 1:23 PM

As the layers of this “empty suit” get peeled away, I’m not likin’ what appears inside.

It’s more, than just an empty suit.

franksalterego on April 25, 2008 at 1:27 PM

Mr. Krauthammer, in the HA headlines article “…the just-arrived pretender”. Only one word needs to be changed, magically…If only the Platters knew how clairvoyant they were…

Oh yes, I’m the great pretender
Pretending that I’m doing well
My need is such; I pretend too much
I’m lonely but no one can tell.

Oh yes, I’m the great pretender
A drift in a world of my own
I play the game; but to my real shame
You’ve let me to dream all alone.

Too real is this feeling of make believe
Too real when I feel what my heart can’t conceal.

Oh yes I’m the great pretender
Just laughing and gay pouting like a clown
I seem to be what I’m not; you see
I’m wearing my heart like a crown
Pretending that you’re still around.

Too real is this feeling of make believe
Too real when I feel what my heart can’t conceal

Yes I’m the great pretender
Just laughing and gay pouting like a clown
I seem to be what I’m not you see
I’m wearing my heart like a crown
Pretending that you’re still around

Entelechy on April 25, 2008 at 1:34 PM

How much does Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. know about the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States of America?

Red Pill on April 25, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Krauthammer’s an idiot.

Typhonsentra on April 25, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Krauthammer’s an idiot.

Typhonsentra on April 25, 2008 at 1:54 PM

He thanks you for the compliment, considering the source.

Entelechy on April 25, 2008 at 2:13 PM

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