Pelosi, Dean, and Reid — Oh my!

posted at 9:24 pm on April 24, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Many people have speculated as to which Democrats have the standing in the party to demand an end to the primary contest before the convention. Some have suggested Al Gore might have the influence to either push one candidate out of the race, or to convince superdelegates; others believe that Jimmy Carter might do it, or they did until he decided to hug Khaled Mashaal. Now it looks like Harry Reid, Howard Dean, and Nancy Pelosi will try to gin up enough courage to demand that superdelegates adhere to a deadline that doesn’t exist:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Thursday that he may have to push undecided superdelegates to make their decisions in the Democratic presidential race, if the contest stretches into June.

Reid said he would consider writing a joint letter with Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) demanding that superdelegates make their endorsements public.

“The three of us, we may write a joint letter [to superdelegates],” said Reid. “We might do individual letters. We are in contact with each other.”

Reid’s comments suggest that the party’s top three officials are contemplating a high-level intervention if the primary season concludes in June without a nominee and many superdelegates still undecided.

Even as Reid said this, his office tried downplaying it immediately — and for good reason. People can demand a decision from the superdelegates until they are blue in the face, but it simply won’t work. By rule, the superdelegates aren’t committed until the convention votes on the nomination. They can declare support whenever they want, but they can also change their minds as often as they like until they vote in Denver.

Now, Reid, Dean, and Pelosi could take a superdelegate count and confront the apparent loser in June or July, demanding that they drop out. That would likely produce a laugh and nothing more. Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama can spend a few weeks wining and dining superdelegates and inducing them to change their declarations until they’re serving dinner at the Pepsi Center in August.

Perhaps this trio thinks they have enough juice to force Hillary or Obama to accede to their will. That would be Harry “We’ve already lost the war” Reid, Howard “Yeeargh!” Dean, and Nancy Pelosi, who couldn’t even stand up to the Congressional Black Caucus to kick William Jefferson out of his House seat. Gore and Carter probably couldn’t do it either, but the notion of these three stooges sternly telling either candidate to get out of the race would make for some great — and momentary — comedy for everyone else involved.


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Ed! You, sir, are spot on! This is comedy gold!

SouthernGent on April 24, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Oh goody! Another letter from Harry Reid. Maybe this one can be auctioned off on EBAY too.

Buy Danish on April 24, 2008 at 9:35 PM

The irony, of course, is that Reid and Pelosi are both uncommitted superdelegates.

vonspringer on April 24, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Man, they are all a bunch of weenies, and Hillary has more balls than any of them. And Obama has to keep going because people are cramming money down his throat, and if he wants to have a political future (i.e. future money), he has to soldier on.

Good times, good times.

meep on April 24, 2008 at 9:36 PM

the Three IDIOTS Stooges

custer on April 24, 2008 at 9:39 PM

. Some have suggested Al Gore might have the influence to either push one candidate out of the race

Well Al is the worlds greatest con man and charlatan inventor and scientist, so if he can’t I can’t imagine who could.

MB4 on April 24, 2008 at 9:39 PM

By rule, the superdelegates aren’t committed until the convention votes on the nomination.

True, however democrats have a history of trying to change the rules mid-stream when it suits them.

I wont be surprised if they don’t try it in this situation.

F15Mech on April 24, 2008 at 9:39 PM

OT…

Thompson just said he won’t be veep for McCain on Hannity/Colmes.

SouthernGent on April 24, 2008 at 9:42 PM

only to a democrat; does acting tough mean writing a letter.

lorien1973 on April 24, 2008 at 9:43 PM

It must take a special kind of idiot to walk into a voting booth and choose Harry Reid.

WisCon on April 24, 2008 at 9:46 PM

ROFL this is all toooo funny. I want to be there with my minicam when they try to talk to the harridan….

dogsoldier on April 24, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Anybody who thinks that Democrats should be running our government should just take a look at the gigantic mess they’ve made of their own party’s nominating process. The Democratic leadership decided to have proportional representation, arbitrarily selected “super” delegates, no delegates seated for Florida and Michigan, etc. — all the stuff they are now moaning about and trying to find ways around. These are the same people who hope to take the White House and gain a larger majority in Congress so that they can massively increase the size of our federal bureaucracies and inflict more idiotic rules and regulations on the rest of us.

Anybody who votes for one of these people needs serious psychiatric help.

AZCoyote on April 24, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Pelosi was incredibly honest when she said, upon becoming Speaker of the House, that the gavel was “passing into the hands of the children of America…”

I thought she was talking about “for the children” and that kind of rot.

She was talking about Democrats, and herself as the Number One Child.

Silly me, and I thought she always lied. I guess not always.

Harry Schell on April 24, 2008 at 9:55 PM

but the notion of these three stooges sternly telling either candidate to get out of the race would make for some great — and momentary — comedy for everyone else involved.

posted at 9:24 pm on April 24, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

You’re talking as if that’s what the Democratic Party or the Superdelegates are thinking about the trio.

Words like “stooges” and “comedy” don’t resonate with the Democrats. It’s more of a compliment.

How do we know? Maybe the trio have a say and the Superdelegates will listen to them.

I can’t put myself in the Democrats’ shoes but I know that they cry when every election results are close and accuse everybody of voting fraud, and demand that every vote should count. Now, because of their internal Party rules, they are throwing the democratic process into shambles.

Kinda like McCain and his “Campaign Finance Reform.”

Some people like to shoot themselves in the foot.

Indy Conservative on April 24, 2008 at 9:59 PM

Look (tongue in cheeck,with a smirk)Pelosi failed at
getting it done,that being a clean house.

Pelosi ran a campaign on cleaning up corruption,that idea
backfired,Pelosi had to contain damage control with money
in Jefferson’s freezer,Spitzer got taken down with love
(client)potion #9!

Polesi had squatters on her front lawn,praying the Anti-
War moonbats would just bug out episode!

Maybe the only hope is to get Silky,Global Warmist and
the Peanut farmer up on the stage in Denver for a touchy
feely bleeding heart Liberal passionate speech to save all mankind that being the Democratic Liberal Party so all
will be right again in their own minds of what their
world should be!

But if the appearance looks like Obama has to back down,
than oh my,me thinks that atoms will begin the accelerating
process to a Political Chernobyl!

And don’t forget the Hope and change hipe is being directed
at the Liberal Party,as Barrack Obama often says It’s our
turn!

canopfor on April 24, 2008 at 9:59 PM

Craven, stupid and crazy is no way to go through life. (It’s pretty easy to guess which is which.)

baldilocks on April 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM

The irony, of course, is that Reid and Pelosi are both uncommitted superdelegates.

vonspringer on April 24, 2008 at 9:36 PM

You know….you are correct. I hadn’t thought of that. They need to show some leadership and commit asap.

And what happened to the mantra of 2000 of “every vote should be counted” in Florida. I would think that nothing should be decided until the last primary it complete.

JonRoss on April 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM

That’s it, we’ll right a LETTER!! Ooooooh!!!

Your Jewish Master on April 24, 2008 at 10:08 PM

And if you don’t respond to that letter, we’ll write another one, with even stronger language!

Heh. I wonder if this will somehow end up in the Supreme Court a la 2000?

innominatus on April 24, 2008 at 10:12 PM

If they could just get all the superdelegates to sit in a feng shui pattern the party would have a nominee.

Limerick on April 24, 2008 at 10:13 PM

The irony, of course, is that Reid and Pelosi are both uncommitted superdelegates.

vonspringer on April 24, 2008 at 9:36 PM

This cannot be quoted enough.

Purple Fury on April 24, 2008 at 10:13 PM

vonspringer on April 24, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Here’s the set of questions I’d like asked of Pelosi/Reid.

You are superdelegates. Who are you pledging your vote to?

And, Pelosi since you do not want to see both on the ticket, why don’t you want {Hillary/Obama} on the ticket at all?

To {Hillary/Obama}: Pelosi said she supported your opponent and she does not want to see you on the ticket in November. Your reaction?

And let the fun begin! True blue on blue would commence.

lorien1973 on April 24, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Let’s see…the last time Harry Reid wrote a letter

Not a good track record, Dingy Harry.

fossten on April 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Pols like Reid are a great example of what happens when the shallow end of the gene pool is allowed to vote.

irongrampa on April 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM

And if you don’t respond to that letter, we’ll write another one, with even stronger language!

Heh. I wonder if this will somehow end up in the Supreme Court a la 2000?

innominatus on April 24, 2008 at 10:12 PM

It would be delicious if so because the Supreme Court would certainly refuse to hear the case, thus causing the Left to explode with more rage and bitterness. This has nothing to do with the Constitution. It’s merely a bunch of loons being loony. The best part for me is that the democrats, by trying to be “fair” in awarding proportional delegates, has made it very unfair. Heh.

SouthernGent on April 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Craven, stupid and crazy is no way to go through life. (It’s pretty easy to guess which is which.)

baldilocks on April 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM

You’re right; that was easy! I must be learning something here :)

mikeyboss on April 24, 2008 at 10:16 PM

And what happened to the mantra of 2000 of “every vote
should be counted” in Florida.I would think that nothing
should be decided until the last primary it complete.

JonRoss on April 24,2008 at 10:00PM.

JonRoss:I’m sure the Dems have contingency plans a la
Broward County “hanging chads,part Deux!

And I’m sure they already have the court papers
drawn up for the absentee Military voters abroad!

But ya,(sarc)the Democrats will make sure they
count all Liberal votes!

canopfor on April 24, 2008 at 10:17 PM

This reminds me of Team America,where the Nuclear inspector
says to Kim ill,well you’ll get a letter expressing how upset we are!

Kim ill,a letter,thats it!

canopfor on April 24, 2008 at 10:20 PM

If one needed any more evidence that the Liberal Leftists and the Democrat Party were only concerned with their own immediate gratification, as opposed to long term positive results for their cause, this is it.

They created the superdelegate idea in response to a “setback”, but that setback happened 3 decades ago. Just as they wanted to gain power so they can change laws and appoint judges, they figured that their losses in legitimate elections were not because of the faultiness of their ideas, but because the laws and the system were “rigged” against them. This despite the fact that they had no complaint when they were being elected.

Never mind the fact that Al Gore would have been President in 2001 if he had simply won his own home state of Tennessee (he wouldn’t have even needed Florida). Even though he lost his own state and even lost Byrd-land (WV), his party tried to get a partisan (all-Democrat) State Supreme Court to change established election laws after the election, simply because they didn’t agree with the result of said election and the subsequent recount results. As it turned out, Gore would still have lost.

However, if Gore had prevailed at SCOTUS, he would have been the only President of the United States to have been “appointed” by TWO Supreme Courts.

Of course, this decision, had it happened, would have been spun-by the same “objective” media that called Florida for their selected candidate in 2000 an hour before the polls closed in that state-as a “triumph for the rule of law and the electoral process in America”.

Of course, Gore’s attempt failed by a SCOTUS 7-2 vote. The fact that there were actually 2 SCOTUS Justices that disagreed with the established rule of law that had been in force for over 200 years is enough to scare anyone.

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2008 at 10:25 PM

Read the update on Politico.

Pelosi surrenders already LOL:

UPDATE: Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said Pelosi has no “specific plans for a letter” to superdelegates.

“She is not opposed to the idea [of a letter] but does not have any plans to do so,” said Daly. Like Dean and Reid, Pelosi has expressed her desire to see the nomination wrapped up before July.

lorien1973 on April 24, 2008 at 10:26 PM

I think it’s time we called the UN in to intervene. And if not that, The Elders.

Together we will support courage where there is fear, foster agreement where there is conflict, and inspire hope where there is despair.

Fits like a glove, doesn’t it?

Pablo on April 24, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Almost split a seam at the Wiki bio on Harry…

Harry Reid

2nd paragraph of ‘Nevada Political Career’.

Leslie Neilsen needs to play the part in the movie.

Limerick on April 24, 2008 at 10:34 PM

canopfor on April 24, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Here ya go, one of the best scenes in a pretty funny movie!

Kim Jong Il: Hans, Hans, Hans! We’ve been frew this a dozen times. I don’t have any weapons of mass destwuction, OK Hans?

Hans Blix: Then let me look around, so I can ease the UN’s collective mind. I’m sorry, but the UN must be firm with you. Let me in, or else.

Kim Jong Il: Or else what?

Hans Blix: Or else we will be very angry with you… and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.

dmann on April 24, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Rush is right. He was making the case a few days ago that this primary has so split the democrat party, that these two candidates are so evenly matched that the party has split into two factions who have gone to war, or are threatening war over the nomination.

The only responsible thing the super delegates can do is select a third candidate. One the party can support as a party rather than two waring factions. Someone widely respected, well known, whose qualifications are unquestioned.

To do anything else would be dereliction of the duties of a super delegate.

The super delegates, and the elected delegates must come together behind a respected candidate. It is the only fair thing to do, since it would be so unfair to select Obama or Hillary.

So end this bitter competition between these two people. Find a third, impartial, respected, and qualified candidate that will unite the party. There is so much talent in the democrat party to choose from, so draft someone, and put an end to this hostile bickering between these two factions.

rockhauler on April 24, 2008 at 10:58 PM

I find it truly amazing that this is the greates country in the world, in all of history, and we have one half of the population who vote for these numbskulls.

cjs1943 on April 24, 2008 at 10:59 PM

They can set a date to end the Iraq war, but not the Dem war.

jgapinoy on April 24, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Here ya go…
dmann on April 24,2008 at 10:44PM.

dmann: Yup,thats how it goes,thankyou for that,LOL.

canopfor on April 24, 2008 at 11:05 PM

cjs1943 on April 24, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Yeah, you would think that McCain would be destroying both of these liars right now in the national polls…but not the case.

WisCon on April 24, 2008 at 11:25 PM

I’m getting nervous. This is no way to run a country.

ronsfi on April 24, 2008 at 11:26 PM

A lot of those super delagates won’t vote until they’ve gotten every last cent they can for their vote. And voting early doesn’t increase the vote’ value.

snaggletoothie on April 24, 2008 at 11:54 PM

As with the last batch of promises from Pelosi after Dems claimed the Congress this will amount to a hill of nothing, too. We’d really be screwed if they could actually accomplish anything beyond holding press conferences.

Neo on April 24, 2008 at 11:56 PM

Why Al Gore? Because he is the highest ranking loser in the party?

EJDolbow on April 25, 2008 at 12:29 AM

We should arm both camps and watch the fun!

I’m thinking paintball, with pink pellets, of course.

Maquis on April 25, 2008 at 12:31 AM

So then we basically get to watch the “top 3″ Democrats publicly emasculate themselves as Obama and Hillary ignore their pleas for unity? Classic.

blankminde on April 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM

Well Al is the worlds greatest con man and charlatan inventor and scientist, so if he can’t I can’t imagine who could.

MB4 on April 24, 2008 at 9:39 PM

MB4:
Al keeps telling me to go green.
The last time I went green was when I got a bad batch of Aunt Clara’s oyster stew. Green me.

Travis1 on April 25, 2008 at 12:44 AM

SECOND LOOK AT KUCINICH!

Weebork on April 25, 2008 at 12:56 AM

The is Identity Politics Chickens…Coming home…TO ROOST! (sorry Rev. Jez but that was a great line).

The Democrats picked two polarising characters whose defining characteristics are not their experience or abilities but their gender and race. Then they stacked the deck against democracy by making 20% of the delegates selected members of the great and the good.

This is only going to end one way for them – badly. There is some fun to be had watching them eat their own, however, as they try to botch some sort of compromise solution. Kos in particular is looking ever more desperate to see a forced coronation of the Messiah.

Ares on April 25, 2008 at 4:10 AM

The only thing Pelousy has proven herself able to “stand up to” is another Botox injection.

SwabJockey on April 25, 2008 at 4:39 AM

There are no rules in the dem party.

Talon on April 25, 2008 at 6:54 AM

Let’s see now.

Food prices are going through the ceiling.

Gas prices are now going into the astronomical range.

Working class families are seriously looking for relief.

And The Three Stooges here are involved with pushing the superdelegates to announce their allegiances.

Good to see the Democrats working for the change we voters asked for when we voted them into power.

Think maybe it’s time for another change?

pilamaye on April 25, 2008 at 6:58 AM

So, basically, they want to force a date for withdrawal?

Typical.

Conservative_SAHM on April 25, 2008 at 7:33 AM

It just goes on and on and on…….

Jimmybob on April 25, 2008 at 7:36 AM

maybe the superdelegates can redeploy to Okinawa until Reid secures their surrender?

davecatbone on April 25, 2008 at 8:25 AM

And if you don’t respond to that letter, we’ll write another one, with even stronger language!

And we might just use BOLD FONT AND underlining! Be afraid…be very afraid.

Trafalgar on April 25, 2008 at 8:43 AM

Democrats are scared little children in everything they do.

Grafted on April 25, 2008 at 9:35 AM

This is great. It reminds of the time when Reid, Dean and Pelosi were trying to escape the cops, so they posed as plumbers and then had to work in an old mansion. Hillarity.

Please someone photoshop this for me.

Squarestate on April 25, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Re: paint ball. Pink pellets for one side. Brown for the other.

Let the games begin.

MSimon on April 25, 2008 at 10:28 AM

CAGE MATCH! WE WANT A CAGE MATCH!!

mojo on April 25, 2008 at 10:32 AM

Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama can spend a few weeks wining and dining superdelegates

Don’t you mean whining and denying?

rmgraha on April 25, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Reid to Hillary: “You’ve lost the war.”

Hillary: “That requires a willing suspension of disbelief.”

Obama: “I hope for change, if you’re for Hillary”.

Rush to super-delegates: “Vote often, not early.”

Steve Z on April 25, 2008 at 11:20 AM

Reid and Pelosi do not understand leadership. Leaders take action, setting a course for others to follow. In this case, that would mean declaring their support for a candidate, and inviting other superdelegates to join them in bringing this sordid saga to a united end.

Instead, they threaten to write a letter urging others to take a public responsibility they themselves shrink from.

Unfortunately, as I noted in another thread, I still think we’re gonna end up with a united Hillary/Obama ticket (or maybe vice versa) cleaning McCain’s clock. Especially if he continues antagonizing the base, like he is with the NC GOP mess.

cs89 on April 25, 2008 at 3:50 PM

Reid said he would consider writing a joint letter with Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) demanding that superdelegates make their endorsements public.

I say, “Try appealing to the U.N. But, whatever you do, don’t take unilateral action!”

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on April 25, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Maybe if they get Kofi Annan to have a word with the candidates . . .

seanrobins on April 25, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Ed,

You do a great disservice to Larry, Moe and Curly by calling Reid, Pelosi,and Dean The Three Stooges. They’re treading water at sub stooge level.

freebird on April 26, 2008 at 8:17 AM