SouthernDem on April 23, 2008 at 9:59 AM

No, they didn’t have an agreement not to have the delegates count, they had an agreement not to campaign in person or run ads, period, nothing more, nothing less.

So that’s a completing unconvincing argument

asc85 on April 23, 2008 at 11:57 AM

You’re talking about a group of people that thought it was a great idea to elect a president by counting ballot with multiple, conflicting votes on them in only certain select areas.

In general though, the more Hillary opens her mouth, the more I am repulsed by her.

Just as the New York Slimes “endorsed” John McCain and later launched the Most Ridiculous Smear Campaign of the season on him, they’ve done it again–this time with Hillary. Remember they endorsed her? LOL.
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Steve Z on April 23, 2008 at 10:36 AM

funky chicken on April 23, 2008 at 10:57 AM

Ditto to both. Exactly right.

Examples of Obama doing anything to win:
- Obama accepted help from former terrorists.
- Obama aligned himself with Rev Wright to gain political power.
- Threw granny under the bus.
- Aligned himself with Tony Rezco.

faraway on April 23, 2008 at 10:23 AM

Agreed. And taking the veep spot would set him up for Potus in 8 years, in demthink. He’d be stupid to not accept the offer. A month ago he slapped the offer away, and since then it’s started to look like he’s electoral poison.

I really don’t think Hillary will make the offer again. Hubris kills the “hero” every time.

Anne, I don’t think there is a 50% chance. Both of these candidates are weak. Hillary because of her constant high negatives; Obama because the mask has alway been bound to fall off sooner or later. McCain’s negs are 8 points below the pretty boy’s, and as more details on Obama’s sleazy associations flow in (and they have only begun to do so), the gap will widen. This race is McCain’s to lose, and the only way I see that happening is if the conservative base abandons him at crunch time.

argos on April 23, 2008 at 9:05 AM

Correct. I’m not sure I’d call most MDS sufferers conservatives though. Yeah, that’s the label they throw around, you know, they are the “true conservatives with principles” and all. Sure, sure. So principled that you think Obama is the same as McCain.

That’s not principled, it’s insane.

The super-delegates WOULD be in a quandary, because state polls have showed McCain leading Obama in OH, PA, NJ, and MI where Clinton is leading, and McCain having a huge lead over Obama in FL where Clinton is competitive. Democrats know that if McCain wins OH and FL, and either PA or MI against Obama, McCain will be President. Do they go along with Obama’s lead in pledged delegates, most of which were obtained in lightly-attended caucuses in Great Plains and Rocky Mountain states that McCain will win easily, while handing McCain FL and MI by refusing to count their votes?

Operation Chaos must continue. North Carolina, with its heavy black population and liberal universities will probably give Obama a boost, and Indiana could be a tossup, with Hillary winning downstate while Obama wins the Chicago suburbs in the northwest corner. Obama now looks like the weaker of the two Democrats, whose chickenssss are coming home to roosssst, whereas Hillary’s baggage is old news.

Let the show continue! Obama will probably win the nomination in a squeaker, but he will come out weaker.

faraway on April 23, 2008 at 10:20 AM

It isn’t what Obama will do,..it is what his groupies/black voters will do. Even if he accepts the VP slot, it will be interpeted by many as being screwed once again by “The Man.” I’m not sure the hard core moonbats will think ahead to the next elections. At least, I hope not. A savage floor fight at the convention will aid things nicely.

With 99% reporting, I think it’s safe to call last night’s primary in PA as an official double digit victory for Hillary Clinton, which the punditocracy was saying she needed to be able to credibly make a case for staying in the race. If y…

Blacks won’t accept anything but Obama on top,

But Obama will. This is a man that threw his poor ole granny under the bus. He has dreamed of being President since he was in grade school. He will do or say anything.

Obama isn’t going to settle for sloppy seconds. He’s got a nice little Senate gig going on, and in 4 or 8 years he could take another crack at the Presidency

There is no better place to run for President than from the VP slot.

For 8 years, Little Boy Barry will:
1. Join a bowling league.
2. Give up arugula.
3. Learn to love waffles.
4. Join a new church.
5. Have the IRS lock up William Ayers
6. Give lots of speeches.
7. Learn the National Anthem.
8. Wear a flag pin every day.

Also, the Clintons are now going to press the “popular vote” argument, which she outlines deftly here. She has surpassed Obama, as Don Surber noted, if Michigan and Florida count — and she tells Lauer that the votes are official, even if Democrats decline to assign delegates based on the results.

She neglects to mention that Obama’s name wasn’t even on the ballet in Michigan. As I recall, the “undecided” vote (or whatever it was called) was a fairly large percentage there. Do you think maybe some of those people were voting for Obama?

1. I keep hearing that on TV from black Obama supporters. It ain’t gonna happen. Where would they go? It’s ridiculous. Are they going to become Republicans? haha

2. Of course Hillary will not become VP. But ObamaX could.

Obama/Clinton will never happen.

Clinton/Obama would be our worst nightmare. 16 years of communism. After 8 years, Obama will attend a different church and gain foreign policy experience.

Obama/(anyone but Clinton) will be cause for celebration. He’s toast.

faraway on April 23, 2008 at 9:47 AM

1) They’ll stay home. They aren’t about to support the person who “stole” the election from their Messiah.

2) Obama is not going to accept a VP slot under a white woman who stole the nomination from him. If he even thought seriously about it his wife would emasculate him. It’s not going to happen. He knows she’ll lose in November and he is young and can run again in four years.

“They’ve learned that they can do ANYTHING to the black voters after promising them the moon for decades, and the black voters always vote for them anyway.”

aero, I have to disagree. Denyng the first black man running for president his earned right to the nomination is a gigantic leap above doing ANYTHING to the black voters, and getting away with it. Rodney King wasn’t exactly a model citizen, but rioting occured nonetheless, driven by their perception that “The Man” overstepped his authority and dished out undeserving punishment on the black victim. There are lines in the sand for the black community. IMO dumping Obama is a line they will cross, with anger, resentment and probably open rioting in the streets.

“I keep hearing that on TV from black Obama supporters. It ain’t gonna happen. Where would they go? It’s ridiculous. Are they going to become Republicans?” haha

faraway, no the Obama supporters aren’t going to become Republicans. They’ll simply stay home on election day. The result will be as if they had become Republicans.

Clinton/Obama beats McCain/whoever in a landslide.

Dream on. Obama isn’t going to settle for sloppy seconds. He’s got a nice little Senate gig going on, and in 4 or 8 years he could take another crack at the Presidency, and he’ll have another 4 or 8 years of seasoning and a record he can point to with pride, and an agenda that has more details than just hope and change.

faraway on April 23, 2008 at 9:56 AM

No no, my friend. NC and IN are still coming up. Plenty of time for more chaos.
There is much work to be done!

Operation Chaos is not just Rush. All the conservative blogs and pundits are blasting Obama with both barrels.

I was only referring to the plan to cross over to vote for Hillary. As far as blasting Obama goes, I do that on my own–it has nothing to do with Rush or O.C.