Gingrich on the Pelosi ad: Conservatives need to be part of this debate
posted at 6:30 pm on April 23, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Via Newsbusters. Conservatives demand an explanation, and an explanation they shall have:
I completely understand why many of you would have questions about this, so I want to take this opportunity to explain my reasons. First of all, I want to be clear: I don’t think that we have conclusive proof of global warming. And I don’t think we have conclusive proof that humans are at the center of it.
But here’s what we do know. There is an important debate going on right now over the right energy policy, the right environmental policy, and making sure we do the right things for our future and the future of our children and grandchildren. Conservatives are missing from this debate, and I think that’s a mistake. When it comes to preserving our environment for future generations, we can’t have a slogan of “Just yell no!”
I think it’s important to be on the stage, to engage in the debate, and to communicate our position clearly. There is a big difference between left-wing environmentalism that wants higher taxes, bigger government., more bureaucracy, more regulation, more red tape, and more litigation and a Green Conservatism that wants to use science, technology, innovation, entrepreneurs, and prizes to find a way to creatively invent the kind of environmental future we all want to live in. Unless we start making the case for the latter, we’re going to get the former. That’s why I took part in the ad.
As I’ve said before, this is just the sort of logic lefty environmentalists should be encouraging. But, er, isn’t he being disingenuous in saying the jury’s out on man-made global warming when he called for “urgent” steps to reduce carbon emissions in his debate with Kerry last year? The two positions aren’t contradictory — he may simply be taking a “better safe than sorry” approach — but doubtless many of the people e-mailing him are global warming skeptics and he’s leading them to think he himself is more skeptical than he probably is.
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AMArtinez,
“why pray tell at this point in time are so many name brand Republicans jumping on the lefts bandwagon of global warming, giving illegal alieans a home here, and some gun restrictions?”
I don’t know – you tell me.
Why don’t you answer these questions:
Do you think that significant changes should be made to the nation’s energy policy?
Do you think that the energy policy will be part of this issue?
Do you think that the conservatives or the liberals have better ideas on energy policy?
Do you want to leave the decisions on the energy policy to the liberals?
exhelodrvr on April 23, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Newt Gingrich should have watched this Startrek episode.
The U.S.S. Enterprise is sent to planet Ekos to investigate the disappearance of an old Academy professor of Kirk’s — historian John Gill {aka Newt Gingrich]. The Enterprise is attacked by an armed probe with a thermonuclear warhead, technology that is too advanced to be from Ekos or the nearby Zeon. Captain Kirk destroys the probe before it can do any damage, then takes the ship into orbit around Ekos out of range of the planet’s detection devices. Spock tells him that, according to their records, the Ekosians are primitive, warlike people in a state of anarchy; Zeon has a relatively high level of technology, and its people are peaceful.
Kirk decides to beam down to Ekos with Spock; and Dr. McCoy fits them both with subcutaneous transponders. Scotty is ordered to use the transponders to locate and beam them back if they fail to make contact in three hours. When Kirk and Spock arrive on the planet’s surface, a Zeon man urges them to hide. They watch as the man is arrested by officers wearing swastika armbands. Spock reminds Kirk that the Prime Directive prohibits them from interfering.
A viewscreen in the street plays news footage revealing that Ekos has adopted a military regime similar to that of Nazi Germany, and is now at war with Zeon. Kirk is puzzled that another planet could independently develop a culture identical to one that once existed on Earth. They watch a female Nazi officer called Daras receive a medal of honor, and learn that the planet is committed to the death of Zeon. The broadcast ends with a salute to the Führer — John Gill {aka Newt Gingrich].
Kirk and Spock steal uniforms and assume the identities of Nazi officers in order to infiltrate government headquarters, but they are arrested before they can find Gill. Their phasers and communicators are confiscated, and they are tortured and interrogated. In jail they meet Isak, the man they saw being arrested earlier. Isak tells them that the Nazi movement on Ekos began when Gill [aka Gingrich] arrived a few years earlier, and it is only a matter of time before Ekos invades Zeon.
Spock uses his subcutaneous transponder to make a crude laser that cuts open the cell door. They find their communicators in pieces, but Spock takes one and they escape. Isak takes Kirk and Spock to an underground resistance group led by his brother Abrom. Kirk explains to Abrom that he needs to find John Gill [aka Newt Gingrich] in order to end the war. But then the resistance cell is infiltrated by Daras, the high-ranking Nazi woman seen in the newsreel, who shoots Abrom. Kirk and Spock overpower and disarm her, but then they learn Daras is really a member of the underground, and the shooting was a ruse to test their loyalty. Isak and Daras explain that Deputy Führer Melakon [aka Gore] is the one in command. Gill [aka Gingrich] sees no one, but he is making a speech from the Chancellery. Daras agrees to help Kirk, Spock and Isak get past the guards. They dress as members of a Gestapo film crew and make their way into the headquarters. Isak wants Kirk and Spock to kill Gill [aka Gingrich] as soon as possible, but Kirk refuses.
They find Gill [aka Gingrich] in a booth surrounded by guards. Spock observes that he seems to be ill, or perhaps drugged. When Spock contacts the Enterprise with a repaired communicator, Kirk tells McCoy to put on a Nazi uniform and beam down. Watching Gill [aka Gingrich]make his speech, McCoy confirms that he has been heavily drugged. Kirk, Spock and Isak overpower the guards so that McCoy can administer a stimulant to Gill [aka Gingrich], but he fails to revive him. Spock performs a mind probe on Gill [aka Gingrich] , which brings him to consciousness. Gill [aka Gingrich] tells them he used the example of Nazi Germany to bring order to Ekos. It worked at first, but then Melakon [aka Gore] seized control, drugged Gill [aka Gingrich] to use him as a figurehead, and started the war with Zeon. With another, potentially fatal dose of stimulant, Kirk keeps Gill [aka Gingrich] conscious so he can make another broadcast from the booth. Gill [aka Gingrich] announces that he has recalled the fleet and that the war must stop; he also tells the people that Melakon [aka Gore]is a traitor. Melakon [aka Gore] opens fire on the booth, and Isak shoots him. Gill [aka Gingrich] is fatally wounded, but before he dies, he tells Kirk he was wrong to break the Prime Directive. But now he hopes the damage has been undone, and the Ekosians and Zeons will now work together.,/i>
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 8:52 PM
exhelodrvr on April 23, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Yeah, more drilling. Then drill some more. Mix in some refining too.
English please. Can’t compute what you’re saying.
Liberals ruin everything they try to fix. As stated previously: individual ingenuity is much better equipped. Keep least-common-denominator, low-bid, pork-barrel governments on a short leash. Definitely keep libs out of any heavy-lifting policy decisions.
It’s called filibuster. Two-pronged attack: shout them down with white noise and/or shout them down with logic.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Extremely disappointing.
Rush often points out that “cooperation” with the Dems is always a one-way street, with the conservative having to move all the way across to join the Dem (who hasn’t had to move at all).
What, exactly, did conservatives get out of this. What, exactly, did Pelosi have to modify or give up? Sure, they’ll be glad to have us join them, as long as THEY don’t have to change anything they want to do!
Bah!
bofh on April 23, 2008 at 8:56 PM
bofh on April 23, 2008 at 8:56 PM
She had to sit on the right side of the couch (her right). Couldn’t you see her clenching?
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 8:59 PM
exhelodrvr, well we have tapped wells from Fla, Ga,Al,Ms,LA, Tx, and so on since the 70’s we’ve got the resorces to feed ourselves. 2 all the dems blame Bush and Chaney for our woes now,(because there oil men)3 Neither at this time 4No but with Newt and a few others we(Republicans) are left to wonder. I’ve been self employed foe 20 years and at this time in my voteing career I’m left wondering!
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:01 PM
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 8:52 PM
The gospel according to Star Trek. You were right…. it really is too easy.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Ah, no…..we don’t.
The Ugly American on April 23, 2008 at 9:03 PM
I used to like this guy. Now he has proved that he is just another fool/oportunist. Just another life politician out there trying to make a living.
SIJ6141 on April 23, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Matthew 12:30 He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters.
Not endorsing Bush here. I just find it odd that Bush rips some of his best lines straight out of the Bible no one ever seems to notice or comment on it.
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 9:03 PM
sorry for the spellin, Crown’s kickin in
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Also, to describe Bush as “put upon” just because everyone in the world didn’t automatically go along with his radical foreign policy seems a bit of a stretch. Poor fella.
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 9:05 PM
So you don’t just clutch Bibles and guns?
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:07 PM
aengus, I still back Pres. Bush, and state often how this is a christan man , and he has been treated far worse than Saddam, Yassir,Iddi Amin, and Castro, go figgure.
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:10 PM
cold steel, got my Bible handy, carry all the time and shoot quite often. Love my new used 454 casull.
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:12 PM
True of the Dems. It might not be true of everyone who is concerned about AGW, or ocean acidification, or various other issues. Right now, those people can only look to the Dems to have their concerns represented. Give them another choice and some will take it. Maybe not many, but maybe enough to force the Dems to splinter their message further and worry about holding their constituency.
njcommuter on April 23, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Is Newt morphing into Jimmy Carter?
Wade on April 23, 2008 at 9:17 PM
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Good on you. Keep a tight grip on those constitutional rights…. it’s all about the pursuit of happiness.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Many of you are using the same line of thinking as “I don’t like McCain, so I’m not voting in November.”
Not getting involved in the process means having no say in what the outcome of the process will be.
And MB4, the Democrats are NOT Nazis, even though they don’t agree with you.
exhelodrvr on April 23, 2008 at 9:19 PM
The only good that can come from “global warming” is if it gives a runaround the liberal loonies on nuclear power.
Well, and it will make for some good mockery when we have another cold winter/year.
funky chicken on April 23, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Well Saddam Hussein was hung by a braying mob so I’m not sure how Bush was treated worse. I mean I know Chirac peed in his cornflakes and everything but still.
BTW, just before everyone goes mad I know that Saddam Hussein was an evil tyrant and that Bush is a decent Christian man.
I just don’t buy that he was ill-treated because the entire world didn’t act like Tony Blair (a great Western leader whose stern commitment to yadda yadda yadda will be cherished for generations to come etc.) and acquiesce to his policies.
Bush is a big boy and he got his way in the end so I see no need to cry any tears for his treatment at the hands of those who disagreed with him.
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Do you not understand a metaphor?
Actually on HA, some folks sometimes think that I am a democrat.
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:24 PM
I agree with Newt. Why should this issue be “owned” by the libs. We live on the planet too and maybe input from the right can temper some of the really far out ideas.
jeanie on April 23, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Its was an analogy, a sci-fi analogy no less. MB4 was not being literal.
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 9:26 PM
aengus yes President Bush is a big boy, all I’ve stated is the left has ridiculed him at every turn. Now I dont agree with his non responce with our boarders, on the war with the terriosts he’s been hampered by the left. All I’m saying is this ain’t the America of my youth.
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Absolutely. I’ve never heard anyone put it in such a proper context.
SouthernDem on April 23, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Newt has lost his mind!!!!
thmcbb on April 23, 2008 at 9:26 PM
exhelodrvr on April 23, 2008 at 9:19 PM
What is the motivation for involvement in flawed processes? I’m busy enough trying to change the sky to green. The Oxygen molecules won’t cooperate.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Metaphor or simile.
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:28 PM
I metapor i married her and all I got was 19 years of child support
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM
I got mostly D’s in English.
But if was one of those analogy/metaphor/simile thingies.
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:32 PM
I think I lost my key?
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Is that the Crown again A? Next time be sure to use the rimshot tag.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:33 PM
MB4,
Sorry.
exhelodrvr on April 23, 2008 at 9:33 PM
They say commenting to yourself is the first sign of madness.
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 9:35 PM
what’s
a rimshot tag? Cold Steel
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:38 PM
No problemo.
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Where does cursing Carbon Dioxide fit in?
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:38 PM
I get that a lot.
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I got a B+ in my overall grade but I may have used the wrong term. In mitigation, I’m a little drunk.
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 9:39 PM
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Just playing A. The rimshot tag is right next to “strike” tag…..
Rimshot is what the houseband drummer does for the punny comedian.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I think that aengus was just pulling my leg.
Was that a metaphor?
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:42 PM
You can’t be too drunk as I am still only seeing one of you.
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Geez o peetz Cold Steel I gotta get high speed?
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 9:43 PM
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Unless you two are rendezvousing at your local Starbucks-hot-spot.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Now that I’ve read through the comments…
Yes, conservatives are missing and no, there is no debate.
There is only blind obeisance to the theory and the attitude many conservatives take towards people’s concerns (example: this thread) is why you’re excluded.
Granted, the dismissive and condescending attitude from the true believers is disgusting, but to scoff in return is no better.
Sadly, this divide causes a disconnect from any real issues from either side. The global warming fanatics overlook more urgent problems in deference to “carbon reduction” while the deniers, in turn, dismiss any relevant environmental issues.
I’m very skeptical about global warming because, as many of you argue, there is no conclusive proof. I’m certain that pollution and other environmental issues are real and cause immediate health concerns (smog=asthma).
It’s a clusterf*** and neither side is fostering honest debate.
SouthernDem on April 23, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I have never been to a Starbucks, can’t stand coffee.
Is that what they do there? Figuratively, or actually literally?
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Gingrich is being scientifically silly and disingenuous.
Weather forecasters cannot predict the climate’s behavior five days out. (SEE: “Chaos Theory” and “strange attractors”.)
Prognostications of global doom are an ancient human mental urge, whether religiously or “scientifically” motivated.
It may be a kind of soothing psychological form of secret revenge upon the indiffferent world for the shortness of the forecaster’s own life, whereby the person predicting bad-tidings-to-come in reality only wants to see the future worsen so that their departure from this “vale of tears” is less troubling to them. (”I’ll be dead, but you’ll wish you were!”)
In either case, since the climate never does anyhing BUT change, the new catchall phrase “climate change” is a perfect Catch-23: whatever happens, we’re covered! / we predicted it!
The history of the planet is one of alternating Ice Ages and warm periods, occuring inexplicably (as far as our hard knowledge of the reasons goes), but a certain self-loathing / human-hating mindset is more than willing to latch onto any blame-mankind slogans to promote their political agendas / social causes.
Scientists should be ashamed of themselves for promulgating this weak theory as anything but a provisional and very sloppy mass of guesswork, because regular humans have to live with the brutal consequences of their hysterical proclamations.
As the unintended consequences of the current corn for ethanol use = increased world hunger-via-grain-shortages folly demonstrates.
Science should tread slowly and carefully, not stampede- like lab lemmings in tiny white coats- over the cliff of their own theoretical dogmatism.
In ten years, it may turn out that a passing cloud of Dark Matter or solar cycles were be behind the “climate change” phenomenon and nothing humans have done, or could do, would have changed anything.
Meanwhile, reducing pollution into the land and waterways and seas, and preventing overfishing, and taking a cautious approach to genetically-modifying our food, and not blindly proceeding with the creation of chimaera animal life are more to the point than fatuous answers to what may not even be a “problem” we can affect.
Ruining economies and starving people in order to placate a shaky theoretical construct (”global
warmingclimate chage” is absurdly self-defeating and dangerous to the stability of our world.profitsbeard on April 23, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Agreed to an extent. Labeling as deniers is a back handed compliment, however. How is celebrating moral agency and individual responsibility a dismissal of relevant environmental issues? That should be the focus of conservatism. Rewarding ingenuity and hard work, promoting sound thought and logic, these will naturally lead towards true problem solving. This junk science is a vapid means toward more government enabling.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Politicians get ridiculed – it goes with the office. You ought to trawl through old newspaper archives if you think Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR had it any better. They had it worse if only for the fact that journalists were wittier back then.
The original point that I was trying to make is that trying to attain the reverence that should be properly accorded for Our Lord Jesus Christ to deflect criticism from the Republican Party, the US, the Bushes (or whatever GWB intended) is arrogant.
It is NOT arrogant because, as the left tried to claim at the time the statement was uttered, it ignores the nuanced, grey complicated situation, alternative perspectives blah blah etc.
I object to it because this certainty is reserved for Christ alone – which GWB, as a believing Christian, must have known when he paraphrased it to suit his political objectives.
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Good point.
In addition to trying to spread mass hysteria, Al Gore does cause a lot of pollution and other environmental issues with his multiple big mansions and private jetting all over tarnation.
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 9:53 PM
No, they aren’t. They’re the ones asking for proof of man-made global warming BEFORE committing trillions of dollars to fighting it.
misterpeasea on April 23, 2008 at 9:54 PM
profitsbeard on April 23, 2008 at 9:51 PM
What else do you expect from someone with profit in the name. Greedy capitalist pig.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Gosh…I luv Newt..!
J_Gocht on April 23, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Comrade 4. The Politburo always has the shorter bread lines.
Cold Steel on April 23, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Starbucks? Only coffee I drink is black as the night sky. I would never frequent any establishment foolish enough to add milk to coffee. Heresy I say!
Oh and death to anyone who adds sugar to their tea.
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 10:00 PM
But profitsbeard why have we Americans reached this point in time where we would even question that as Americans and the most prosperous people in the world we would allow ourselves to be captured by some slang term about global temptures fluctuating that we would stop our own economy’s cycle.
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 10:02 PM
LOL!
All because I spelled “change” [chage] wrong, once, and forgot to close a parenthesis?
As someone once said:
“What profiteth it a man to gain the world but lose his soul?”
Scientists should be the most cautious in this realm, and remember things like “phlogiston“, “Aristotelean aether” and the “Ptolomeic planetary shells” before bowing at the altar of any new Green deity or demiurge.
profitsbeard on April 23, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Yes, I was exaggerating on purpose. Notice I called the other side fanatics. It wasn’t meant to be offensive.
Agreed, which is why I liked Newt’s statement so much:
Preaching to the choir my friend.
Say, aren’t you a lib?
SouthernDem on April 23, 2008 at 10:10 PM
All animals are created equal, some are just a whole lot more equal than others.
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Some folks do think so sometimes.
Have I ever got them fooled.
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 10:15 PM
The entire premise of this “debate” is flawed. Once we admit that there is a debate to be had and and an argument to be made, we legitimize the issue. There is no evidence that the climate is changing, and certainly no evidence that any change is anthropogenic. Further, if there were any evidence that the climate is changing, who are we to say that it’s a bad thing? The notion that we can somehow control the climate is disingenuous at best.
Rather than validate the environmentalists’ argument by responding, the wise step is to ignore it. It works for trolls, and it works in real life.
When you start with faulty assumptions, you end up with flawed conclusions. It’s as simple as that.
fourstringfuror on April 23, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Pathetically-compliant science students (not taught the basics of critical thinking / skepticism / epistemology) and incredibly lazy science teachers in the related fields (throwing themselves onto/under the Juggernaut of “Climate Change”, which they mistake for a righteous bandwagon).
aengus-
.
How about orange blossom honey?
profitsbeard on April 23, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Is Newt morphing into Jimmy Carter?
Wade on April 23, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Both are boring sanctimonious hypocrites, to be sure.
I think that Gingrich is being cute with his phraseology, and that he has bought this GW crap, hook, line and sinker.
He just doesn’t have the balls to openly admit it and lose his conservative connections.
What a scumbag!
TexasJew on April 23, 2008 at 10:21 PM
The Earth has been warming since 1850. All this Global Warming hysteria is just an attack on America. Want to reduce carbon? Build nuke plants. Otherwise, shut the F up.
fleiter on April 23, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Very well said…er written…typed. You get the picture.
Weight of Glory on April 23, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Actually, I impressed it directly onto the internet with my carbon-covered feet.
profitsbeard on April 23, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Well as Americans their is good debate here, the rest of the world is still in limbo!
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Sheesh! He’s become our very own Jesse Jackson. Don’t come between Newt and a camera!
thatcher on April 23, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Who’s the more foolish: The fool, or the fool who follows him?
Not that that has anything to do with anything, I just like Obi Wan.
SouthernDem on April 23, 2008 at 10:28 PM
I don’t know what to think about global warming… too much noise on all sides. But I do know that if we don’t get our conservatives fingers in that quagmire we will have nothing to complain about when the lefts ideas get rammed down our throats. I do think we have a lot of very wasteful energy technologies that are in desperate need of replacement with more efficient ones.
We need to inspire and encourage the development of those new technologies. Preferably invented here in the good ol’ USA. So Newt is right in that, regardless of what you think of his other views. Is he the right cheerleader for this? Maybe not, but I don’t see anyone else stepping up to the plate!
Paladium on April 23, 2008 at 10:28 PM
It’s amazing that ‘reaching across the aisle’ always begins with Republicans accepting the Democrats premise on the issue du jour.
Newt’s participation validates the notion that man CAN do something about global warming and that government is the only acceptable instrument by which to accomplish it.
BD57 on April 23, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Unacceptable. Tea is a bitter drink, as it ought to be. To flavour it in any way diminishes the taste. Its not hot sugar water or orange blossom honey water for crying out loud!
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Polluter! Now the internet is dirty.
Weight of Glory on April 23, 2008 at 10:29 PM
The only way that drinking tea is ever justified is when it is flushed out by equal portions of either coffee or beer.
Tea, naaaaasty stuff.
Weight of Glory on April 23, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Ah sun tea one gallon of spring water from my own home, 4 bags, caffenated, pull that damn paper off, where did that staple come from. Run 4 miles, love spring, only in America.
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 10:34 PM
I like Newt, and I think we should give him a little bit of room to maneuver here.
He was the Speaker of the House, and knows how dysfunctional Congress is.
But, I agree with Rush, when you have to totally obliterate the Left’s solution on “Climate Change”.
It is the biggest hoax ever brought upon the citizens of this planet.
The platform should be, “Climate Change? It’s a Hoax, Stupid!”
Seven Percent Solution on April 23, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Drink nothing but properly made tea with nothing mixed in and no equal portion of anything else for two weeks and you’ll know what I mean. Great taste. ;)
I’m off to bed. Goodnight.
aengus on April 23, 2008 at 10:37 PM
aengus must be a Bostionian!
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 10:40 PM
hell I need to go to sleep also can’t read what’s typed befor Ido.LOL
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 10:41 PM
This is pure bullcrap. Many of us do not dismiss relevant issues. WE ARE DISMISSED simply because we want to include science in all environmental debates.
blink on April 23, 2008 at 10:41 PM
No, no, no, no, no. It’s not just a matter of conclusive proof. You should be skeptical because the AGM theory is critically flawed!
But I dare you to question the theory.
blink on April 23, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Yes, yes, yes, yes. And it would be good to focus on innovative methods for reducing smog. However, this can’t happen as long as we are told that reducing CO2 is more important.
Doncha know notin’? You won’t die from asthma, but the whole world will die from AGW.
blink on April 23, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Yes, I agreee. And it would be good to focus on developing these new technologies without the stupid constraint of having to worry about CO2 emissions.
blink on April 23, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Somebody please tell me why the left isn’t pushing this idea????
It’s the only viable solution to their CO2 problem, and it will not receive any resistence from the right?
blink on April 23, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Same as he ever was, unfortunately. Scumbag’s a bit strong. Narcissist? yeah.
Again, if he can bludgeon lefties into admitting that building nuke power plants is a good idea, more power to him. And it’s going to be soooooo much fun making fun of these people when we’re all dealing with global cooling because of the sun cycle. All the laughter will help keep us warm.
funky chicken on April 23, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Ya right. Good luck using the latter method for reducing CO2 by the “necessary” amounts. Study the science and run the numbers. It won’t work.
Besides, I’d rather offer valuable prizes for innovators to solve real problems.
blink on April 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM
I don’t know what to think about global warming… too much noise on all sides. But I do know that if we don’t get our conservatives fingers in that quagmire we will have nothing to complain about when the lefts ideas get rammed down our throats. I do think we have a lot of very wasteful energy technologies that are in desperate need of replacement with more efficient ones.
We need to inspire and encourage the development of those new technologies. Preferably invented here in the good ol’ USA. So Newt is right in that, regardless of what you think of his other views. Is he the right cheerleader for this? Maybe not, but I don’t see anyone else stepping up to the plate!
Paladium on April 23, 2008 at 10:28 PM
You sound very confused. One one hand, on the other hand…
In other words, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
Let me set you straight: IT’S ALL A BIG SMOKING PILE OF CRAP!
TexasJew on April 23, 2008 at 11:02 PM
I think that Newt is exactly where he belongs these days: Essentially, in academia with his little “foundation” or what not.
I don’t mean to be disrespectful to the Captain of the Contract With America, but he is way out of line on certain things. Rush is right. . .always right: You cannot compromise with pure evil (er, I mean, with the Left).
Engaging in a fantasy debate such a man-made global warming only lends credence to a subject that Newt has got to know is nonesense.
So why does he do it?
seanrobins on April 23, 2008 at 11:02 PM
That’s because sometimes, and lately oftentimes, you act like one. Only us oldtimers know better. We know that you were for, are for, and will be for Goldwater, forever :)
Entelechy on April 23, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Oh, quit it already with the new technologies bunk.
We can’t afford to piddle and twiddle over speculative and very long term goals while drowning in the short term (so to speak) We need to develop what is NOW available: eisting sources of fossil fuels (you know what and where these are),
and revitalize the use of nuclear energy.
seanrobins on April 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM
SouthernDem, would you care to debate the science? If so, then GAME ON, BABY.
I’ll even let you start. Please explain the mechanism by which CO2 will supposedly continue heating the earth.
blink on April 23, 2008 at 11:06 PM
With either lots of fresh lemon juice, or a shot of good Rum.
Your long post is delightful. Please consider writing longer comments now and then. You are our erudite HA brain. It is obvious that you read much, and that you love language. You master it enviably, in a good way. And, as far as I’m concerned, you can make all the profits you’re capable of :) You deserve them all! Glad to be allowed in your e-sphere,
Entelechy on April 23, 2008 at 11:11 PM
If I had inherited the mess that Johnson got into, I would have said to North Vietnam, by dropping leaflets out of B-52s, ‘You quit the war in three days or the next time these babies come over there going to drop some big bombs on you.’ And I’d make a swamp out of North Vietnam … I’d rather kill a hell of a lot of North Vietnamese than one American and we’ve lost enough of them.
- Barry Goldwater
It’s a great country, where anybody can grow up to be president… … … except me.
- Barry Goldwater
MB4 on April 23, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Allright can’t sleep, this is the man that saved us from the presipus of disaster, re newt. Now he’s gone to the dark side. Talk about hope and change?
AMartinez on April 23, 2008 at 11:23 PM
It looks like Barak Obama isn’t the only one with two personalities, Squire Obama and Homie Obama. Now it’s Newt with Patton Newt and Chamberlain Newt. Those politicians with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) are going to be the death of me I fear.
Sigy on April 23, 2008 at 11:33 PM
But here’s a happy thought. You got lefties spending millions on these ad spots with the likes of Gingrich and Pelosi. How many mind do you suppose will actually be changed?
Maxx on April 23, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Scientific debate is fine, Newt surrendered!
RJL on April 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM
and revitalize the use of nuclear energy.
seanrobins on April 23, 2008 at 11:05 PM
A simple
TexasJew on April 23, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Gingrich’s service to the country occurred not when he was Speaker, but when he was that unknown white-haired man railing against the corruption of one-party Democrat rule in Congress. He was the white-haired man who stood alone in the House Well on that new channel called C-SPAN.
Once he got power, all bets were off. Everything became about re-election. He did nothing innovative with power and his Congress caved on Clinton’s budget (gov’t employees turned off the forests!). Once he was out, he just talked the talk for money and ego in the media.
For those inclined to cut Newt some slack, consider: what does the average viewer think when they see Newt and Pelosi together? Here’s Newt, the Con’s Con, and Pelosi, the Dem Queen. Therefore, Global Warming must be true!
Science and economy be damned; there’s money to be made. Newt is on course to becoming the Jimmy Carter of energy.
Feedie on April 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM
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