Before I signed off for the nite I thought I’d ck back to see if anything else was said on this thread. To find it I had to hit the little white arrow in the blue circle a million times!
Not worthy of archiving….gee, I wonder why?
Please don’t tell me you caved to persons unnamed!
I know, it didn’t go beyond a page.
You guys should be running threads like this all the time.
It’s the only way we can ward them off…awareness!!!!

Thank you

Not in any detail…suffice to say…they tried to recruit me.
After the 93 WTC bombing I contacted someone I know in the Gov, someone from active duty days.
The rest… I can’t talk about.
Make no mistake, none of them can be trusted.
They are hard core, enablers or consenters. Period.

jerrytbg on April 23, 2008 at 9:19 PM

Can you describe your experience with the Muslim Brotherhood?

Ramadan got stripped of his US visa for donating money to Hamas front groups, losing a prestigious position at Notre Dame.

I think it’s only fair that you mention the fact that Ramadan donated to this organization only before it was ever designated by the Treasury Department as a Hamas front group in 2003.

AJB on April 23, 2008 at 9:28 AM

Well, that just makes it all better! Let me ask you something, do you expect him to donate after the front group’s designation? When the accounts have been frozen?

You know, if you were sitting on the jury for the Holy Land Foundation trial, I’d just bet you’d expect to see Hamas written in the memo section of the donated checks. Sucker.

Can this work? It did in Turkey, but that took a specific set of circumstances and a leader with the power to impose the solution.

It didn’t work if you were an Armenian or Jew in Turkey.

Can this work? It did in Turkey, but that took a specific set of circumstances and a leader with the power to impose the solution.

No, it can’t work. Attaturk was an anomoly. He saw Islam as a losing proposition for greatness, and went with Nationalism. Just how many Islamic societies now are running from Islam? Not many. Pan-Islamism is the great dream that drives these countries and their various global-Islam-at-all-costs terrorist organizations. There are few internal forces pushing to alter this perception, and fewer still with any power to try to enforce it.

Christianity came to terms with secular power and modernism via some very bloody wars between Catholicism and Protestantism; that threatened to destroy both. Islam, one could hope, would soon encounter such a conflict capable of eventually neutralizing their conviction that religion must rule at every level of existence, but that seems quite unlikely to occur.

Islam’s reforming force won’t come from within, it must come from without, as did Attaturk’s inspiration, which was loss of empire and the stultifying effects of Islamist rule. Right now Islam is convinced it can enjoy the fruits of modernity while remaining in it’s intellectual and cultural cave, and only failing soundly in that fantasy will shake some sense into them. Right now, the West refuses to help them arrive at that enlightened state.

My $.02

You can’t be a little bit pregnant, a little bit Muslim, or a little bit Sharia.

Which means “stuck” Europeans unable to flee to the US will end up fighting with Muslims over what rules, Sharia or Western Law.

Simple as that. I predict that a certain movie, “THERE WILL BE BLOOD.”

Convert them to Christianity

Make sure to pray for this man Zakaria Botros.
http://www.fatherzakaria.net/

His TV and web based ministry has made him public enemy #1 for the islamists.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTUwY2QyNjA0NjcwMjExMzI2ZmJiZTEzN2U1YjYyZjE=

They have a $5 million bounty on his head already.

Vatican Watcher on April 23, 2008 at 9:25 AM

There’s a story going around now that in 2004, Sarko wanted “all religions to live side-by-side in peace.” I think the story is being pushed disingenuously to take him down a peg in the eyes of the West.

Men like Ramadan are a thousand times the danger of decoys like Osama.

…but they kill their own that do convert. I’m sure missionaries reaching out to Islam in Europe would face violence or death. Muslim communities isolate themselves for the host culture, and get away with threatening all that enter.

I was impressed with the Pope’s visit to the US, and he is the only spiritual leader in Europe with the brass to stand up. The AOC strikes me as the typical example of a Euro and American Liberal church leader. Just imagine the Episcopal Church in the USA trying to stand up to Islam?

Great idea, but Islam has been making Christian martyrs since the first year it was invented. It rolled over the Christian Middle East and Northern Africa like a hot knife on butter creating genocide and mass slavery from village to village.

Obviously, the intent is to make it easier for Brits, Germans, Greeks, and the French to come here to visit, but it seems we’re also opening the door to Islamofascists…

They could just come in from Mexico or get a student visa from Saudi Arabia if they wanted. Whats needed is a discriminatory exclusion policy against Muslims but in the age of liberalism they can’t even be searched at airports.

talking_mouse on April 23, 2008 at 10:50 AM

Great suggestion but I think the powder keg is going to ignite a lot faster than in 20-25 years. Whenever the imams in the UK (as seen in Undercover Mosque) feel that they have the strength to take over they’ll try. I’d sure like to get a look at their timetable.

BROTHER TARIQ

http://www.amazon.com/Brother-Tariq-Doublespeak-Ramadan/dp/1594032157

Hit the books, Ed. This guy has form.

It’s the difference between throwing a frog into boiling water and slowly heating the water it’s in. The end result is a boiled frog in both cases; you just don’t feel the latter happening.