Video: Idiot blows the lid off the Obama/Osama connection
posted at 9:52 am on April 22, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Glanced at this last night on Drudge and wondered why he’d devote space on the Report to something so stupid. Then I watched the clip and it all became clear. We’re not talking stupid; we’re talking viral stupid. Dare I say it, we may be talking leprechaun stupid.
Don’t quit on it too early; the punchline comes at the very end. Exit question: Did this guy actually misspell “hmmm”? Click the image to watch.
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It’s a racist slur against all African Americans? Whaaaa?
As for the sign, it would have worked if he wanted to talk about the brotherhood of humanity (that was my initial impression of the sign). But unfortunately, this guy is just an idiot with a billboard.
Nethicus on April 22, 2008 at 9:57 AM
This is what makes being a Christian so difficult…these “pastors”…is this SaintOlaf’s pastor?
He should learn to read the bible and apply it, church and politics don’t mix, remove his tax status and you will see a “change of heart”…
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 9:57 AM
I agree, this sign is neither “political” or “racist” . . . it’s just plain stupid.
rplat on April 22, 2008 at 9:59 AM
His logic is absolutely mainstream in a lot of places including, I would say, among many contributors to this website. Typically it’s presented in the form of “B. Hussein Obama”.
freevillage on April 22, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Can someone please tell me how this is racist?
Silly, yes? But racist?
Maybe if it said, “are they bruthas?”
badpenguin on April 22, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Yes, and expect the “race” card at every debate, every speech, every waffle, every new story, the race card will drive his campaign…all these (Obama supporters) people see is race that is how they live their life…
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Thank G-d for this pastor, now I can rest easy about not voting for Obama. Man, what an idiot.
I’m not Christian, so I want to ask my fellow HA commentators, is it that easy to get a theology license to preach these days?
Lance Murdock on April 22, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Ehumnmmm…this is just as stupid.
I guess anyone can claim to be offended by anything, right?
The next time Obama speaks, I shall be offended.
fossten on April 22, 2008 at 10:02 AM
BTW, best exit question ever:
freevillage on April 22, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Well, we know how you think, too bad that you think he is a “brother” to Obama…the mainstream thinks he is just incompetent, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar…
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM
This guy single-handedly disproves both evolution and intelligent design.
So, how did he get here?
SteveMG on April 22, 2008 at 10:05 AM
I’m sorry. Could you please speak in coherent grammatically closed sentences? I didn’t understand anything.
Who is a brother to whom? What cigar?
freevillage on April 22, 2008 at 10:07 AM
All I get from this is that those who are protesting are supporting Obama because he’s black.
Connie on April 22, 2008 at 10:07 AM
The great religious minds are so often misunderstood.
ronsfi on April 22, 2008 at 10:07 AM
If I were a member of this church I would be looking for somewhere else to attend…which is more than what Obama ever did.
sdd on April 22, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Hey, he’s “just raising questions.”
Or something…
greenonions on April 22, 2008 at 10:08 AM
The guy is a moron, but how is his point racist?
Someone explain that to me, please.
MadisonConservative on April 22, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Actually, freevillage, your ‘logic’ is no better than the idiot Pastor Byrd.
Buy Danish on April 22, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Is Senator Robert Byrd and Pastor Roger Byrd brothers?
HUMM
davidk on April 22, 2008 at 10:11 AM
And to think of all the crap I took for referring to “redneck hillbilly pastors”. I’m having a brain freeze from too much irony.
ronsfi on April 22, 2008 at 10:11 AM
I’m pretty sure you can get one online. The hard part is, presumably, finding someplace to host you and your lame jokes (see “HUMMM”).
But I do think it’s shocking that we’re going to have a president with the middle name Hussein (who might not be a Muslim, but isn’t much of a Christian, judging by his church, and is absolutely willing to meet with the enemy).
Is it true Muslims trace Muslim-hood through fathers? (I ask because I heard that argument and was unsure how to respond.)
emailnuevo on April 22, 2008 at 10:11 AM
OK, I’ll bite. Paraphrase “my logic” for starters, please.
freevillage on April 22, 2008 at 10:11 AM
This definitely isn’t racist. It’s definitely stupid. This guy is an idiot and if I attended his church I would stop going.
Everything anyone does that’s against Obama in this election is going to be seen as racist. Republicans are going to be called racist because we won’t vote for him.
Erockk on April 22, 2008 at 10:12 AM
I call him B. Hussein precisely and only because I’ve been told I’m not allowed to.
Darksean on April 22, 2008 at 10:12 AM
This ‘pastor’ is more interested in being a jerk than being salt and light…I hope you’re happy Sir.
Richard Romano on April 22, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Muslim is a system of beliefs. You can’t trace that by blood.
freevillage on April 22, 2008 at 10:13 AM
I believe, for your retort to be clear, you would need to add both a comma and a hyphen.
Let’s be polite.
emailnuevo on April 22, 2008 at 10:13 AM
I call him “Osamabama.” Didn’t know I was being racist.
davidk on April 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Methinks the right Reverend Byrd listed to Shirley Ellis’ “The Name Game” too many times while growing up. Or he’s a some sort of relative of West Virginia’s Sen. Robert C.
jon1979 on April 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM
What a “Humm” job.
profitsbeard on April 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM
I’m not asking how you would trace it, as a rational individual. I’m asking if Muslims believe that you are a Muslim if you are born to a Muslim father, like the Jewish-mother thing?
emailnuevo on April 22, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Quite.
I saw this video this morning. Slightly less stupid. It’s new to me, but posted to Youtube April 7
“I Invented The Internet (Episode 1: The Audacity)”
Kinda lame with the ‘Barack hussein Obama’ line, but it seems like a right wing version of Michael Moore who edited the clips together.
wise_man on April 22, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Simple answer: yes.
Connie on April 22, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Fair enough. I’m also kind of flattered I’m held to such a standard considering I started speaking English only in my 20s.
At any case, I genuinely didn’t get the point.
freevillage on April 22, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Is Jonesville a sister city with Jonesboro? HUMM?
RushBaby on April 22, 2008 at 10:19 AM
No.
(Although they do believe that all are naturally born latent Muslims and only fail to achieve it by straying into other beliefs, which is why they say that someone who comes to Islam has “reverted” back to it.)
profitsbeard on April 22, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Oy, what a schmuck this pastor is. Reminds me of the guy who defends the accuracy of Nostradamus’s predictions because he predicted a Hister and we got a Hitler.
He’s just proving Mencken right, you can’t go broke underestimating the intelligence of (some of) the American people.
rbj on April 22, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Yes, some of the comments left on this site have disturbed me greatly.
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Was Barack Obama a Muslim?
Note the past tense.
Connie on April 22, 2008 at 10:21 AM
I can’t paraphrase your logic but I will parse it.
First, your ‘logic’ assumes that the majority of Hot Air commenters refer to Barry as “Barack Hussein Obama”, which is demonstrably false.
Second, Barry’s name actually is “Barack Hussein Obama”. Since that is a true fact you cannot logically compare it to the idiot pastor’s theory which has no basis in fact.
In the interest of fairness, I concur that r2b makes no sense here either.
Buy Danish on April 22, 2008 at 10:22 AM
I see, thanks.
I wonder how much of the left is going off on this idiot and piling him with Republicans in general. I’m going to say a lot.
Lance Murdock on April 22, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Look. The sign IS political. However, we don’t know the minister’s purpose or reasoning, other than to bring up the “fear” factor in order to defeat Obama. He could be doing it tongue-in-cheek ala Coulter for all we know.
Journalists are doing similar things. One campaign is doing it to the other while blaming it on the opposition party.
Connie on April 22, 2008 at 10:27 AM
I thought I understood what r2b was saying, but apparently I misread his comment, as it makes no sense – sorry about that one. I was somewhat peeved by the insinuation that saying Obama’s middle name is the same as being a slanderous (yet oddly soft-spoken) pastor.
If you are reading this, r2b, explain yourself. You need some sort of antecedent for “he” – so who is he?
emailnuevo on April 22, 2008 at 10:28 AM
This is our answer.
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Ok, here we go… Alright folks, no feeding the trolls!
4shoes on April 22, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Islam is the belief system. A muslim is an adherent to Islam.
Pent. on April 22, 2008 at 10:33 AM
I’m embarrassed.
natesnake on April 22, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Apparently.
I’d say this pastor is as dumb as a pile of bricks, but I’d hate to insult piles of brick everywhere.
amerpundit on April 22, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Unless McCain has been attending this Pastors’ church for the last 20 years, who give a rat’s ass what this guy thinks?
there it is on April 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Importing myself from the headline:
Tzetzes on April 22, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Here’s some advice: give it up.
Aren’t there enough real and documented negatives about Obama to concentrate on (including, but not limited to, his association with domestic terrorists, Black Liberation Theology, the corrupt Chicago political machine, and his woeful lack of experience and/or expertise in foreign policy and economic issues)?
Yes, his father was a Muslim; yes, he may or may not have been instructed in Islam, and yes, his African relatives are Muslims. End of story.
Concentrating on the Muslim angle is playing right into the media’s hands — and the idiotic pastor in this video is how they would like to portray all those who can’t let go of the religious angle — drooling idiots.
Nichevo on April 22, 2008 at 10:42 AM
How much you wanna bet he reads his Genesis literally?
Tzetzes on April 22, 2008 at 10:43 AM
“God Damn America” would have been so much less offensive. This pastor’s a piker.
Cuffy Meigs on April 22, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Well, I don’t care who you are, that’s just plain funny!
Weight of Glory on April 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Ugh, that is disturbing. Receiving a religion degree or theology degree should not be that easy. Case in point. People like this dummy use his ‘religious’ background to push his idiocy around.
Lance Murdock on April 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM
Me, I often wonder about Gore, Haig, Abama and Qaeda, the four Als. Are they brothers?
factoid on April 22, 2008 at 10:48 AM
I don’t care that Obama has indirect Muslim roots since his exposure to it was limited to his childhood and kids aren’t responsible for how their parents raise them (unless one wants to count the Islamophilia of Pastor Wright).
However, beyond what Daniel Pipes points out as false (and over and above his silly assertion that because he lived in Indonesia as a very young child means he can make the world safer) there is another evasion here:
What he doesn’t mention is that his grandfather was born a Christian and converted to Islam. He also leaves out the part about his brother Roy, who converted to Islam, an event which led him to say:
“The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.”
I’ve never understood why this made Obama so proud. Is it the fact he gave up pork? Is it the returning to his African roots? Normally a Christian would not be ‘proud’ that one of their brothers converted to Islam, but then again his brand of Christianity is not exactly mainstream.
Buy Danish on April 22, 2008 at 10:52 AM
So what exactly is the reason for calling him B. Hussein Obama?
Seriously? Is it because you were told “not to do it” by some they that needs reminded of the 1st amendment? Who are they? Dems? You think that playing juvenile name games really advances the argument against the Dem candidates?
Because that sounds like an incredibly lame attempt to “stand up to da man!”.
It’s because “that’s his real middle name”? So now the standard is we’ll just call all candidates by their middle name? Funny — haven’t seen John McCain’s (r-McCainland) middle name bandied about.
It was a cute little joke that has become a point of pride with far too many people. It’s ridiculous, and to me, it reflects as poorly on the Republicans and Conservatives who engage in it as this retard-strength Pastor does on Christianity.
krakatoa on April 22, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Any degree is only as good and impressive as the student.
Weight of Glory on April 22, 2008 at 10:53 AM
My only concern is will he appease? Like our State Department is doing, as per the article in the headline section above.
Connie on April 22, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Sometimes I forget that slow learners like you are also on this site look up Freud and cigar…I think even you can figure it out…
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Although Silly it’s is on the minds of many. Is Barack Hussein Obama really a Christian? Sure he’s attended a Christian church but is he really deep down committed to Christianity?
I can only take his word for it. Which lately doesn’t count for much.
roux on April 22, 2008 at 11:01 AM
I don’t get that either. Is every attack against Obama somehow a racist slur against black people?
Those who comment on others’ grammar are usually held to the highest standard. That said, your “accent” doesn’t show.
Esthier on April 22, 2008 at 11:01 AM
He is referring to Osama, there were only two names on the billboard, Obama and Osama.
The next sentence is a little confusing…what I was saying is your reference to “mainstream” is just wrong, the mainstream (whatever your definition is) thinks that he (Obama) is incompetent. In other words, you and the MSM read too much into Obama’s ethnicity…in other words, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar…that is sometimes someone black is not chosen because he is incompetent, not all the other things abscribed to him by playing the “race” card. Sometimes someone is just incompetent, because he is incompetent, not for any other reason.
Plus I was vague because I don’t like your posts…
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 11:09 AM
Boy, AllahPundit you get to show your anti-religion and anti-Southern feelings all in one post.
Please tell me exactly what was so stupid about this cherry-picked video?
The stupidest parts were:
1. The black people there accusing a white pastor of being a racist.
2. The WSFA anchor accusing the pastor of being racist by saying she asked him how many blacks attended his church. She did not ask how many whites attended the “black” church. She did not ask why the blacks accused the pastor of being a racist.
When are we going to stop being “offended”? These were grownups. No children were in the crowd.
The sign said nothing about black people.
There has been much serious discussion here and other places as to whether Obama is or was a Muslim.
Are you calling HA readers stupid too?
faraway on April 22, 2008 at 11:09 AM
I see its WSPA not WSFA.
faraway on April 22, 2008 at 11:10 AM
That would be John Sidney McCain, like his grandfather. Of course you know Hillary Rodham Clinton, and gosh if we don’t refer to George Walker Bush as “W”. But it’s verboten to mention Barack’s full name?
I agree that it can be stupid depending on the context, but the idea that the mere mention of it is demeaning is pretty silly.
Buy Danish on April 22, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Is it possible to misspell an onomatpoeia? Just asking.
fourstringfuror on April 22, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Onomatopoeia. Oh, the irony.
fourstringfuror on April 22, 2008 at 11:12 AM
I agree, but is this guy a pastor, really deep down committed to being a Christian pastor?
He sets Christians back about 30 years…
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 11:14 AM
I like how he got surrounded by a polite, rational church mob. I wish more mobs were like them.
frankj on April 22, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Hey freevillage, and terryann, if the comments are so disturbing why do you spend so much time here? Maybe AP can add an “ignore this poster” button. I for one would love to have the minutes of my life back after reading some of your comments. This is a CONSERVATIVE site. Not a liberal, or moderate site. What causes you to hang out here, despite the disgusting talk that occurs here? My guess is freevillage is a typical troll, terryann is young, impressionable, and totally enamored with AP, and his writings.
chief on April 22, 2008 at 11:18 AM
What was ‘confusing’ was the sentence too bad that you think he is a “brother” to Obama. For all your explanations, that makes no sense since freevillage never said or implied that she (?)thought that.
The only people whom we can state with certainty think that could be true are Pastor Roger and his idiot congregation.
Buy Danish on April 22, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Please give us the exact line he spoke where you came to that conclusion.
faraway on April 22, 2008 at 11:20 AM
what a surprise…you wait for weeks for me to make a poor post, and then jump in…I thought I got rid of you. You
littlelarge obsessed stalker.right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Because Liberalism is a mental disorder.
wise_man on April 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Look, this has nothing to do with Allah being an atheist. The sign is stupid.
Just because Obama is one letter away from Osama, it does not mean that they are brothers, and only stupid people would even suggest the idea based on such a stupid assertion.
Questioning whether or not Obama is a Muslim isn’t stupid unless people are basing that opinion on the fact that his name rhymes with Osama, then it is stupid.
And in case you want to accuse me of prejudice against Southerners, whites and Christians, I’m a white Southern Baptist.
Esthier on April 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM
I would guess not really as he passed the “blame” for the original post to Drudge. ;)
Connie on April 22, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Esthier, maybe the pastor is smarter than you are. He’s not suggesting they share the same daddy. He is asking whether they are brothers in Islam. Fair question to me. I think the members of his congregation have a right to discuss this question – as do we.
faraway on April 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM
My thoughts exactly. By this pastor’s logic, they’re pretty much the same. I actually thought that was going to be the punchline, or at least that Roger was a Democrat.
calbear on April 22, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Yes, I got that, hence the end of my post where I said questioning Obama’s religion isn’t the issue, but questioning it because his name rhymes with Osama is.
No one is saying they don’t have a right to talk about it. I even stated explicitly that it’s not something that should be off limits.
We’re just saying they’re stupid, and they are. Rhyming names do no constitute proof of religious beliefs. If you believe that they do, then you’re stupid, especially since it’s the name Obama was born with rather than one he chose.
Esthier on April 22, 2008 at 11:33 AM
What a surprise! r2b is still off his rocker.
Buy Danish on April 22, 2008 at 11:35 AM
How many articles have appeared in the main stream media claiming Obama’s upbringing was heavily influenced by Islam…. dozens at least. Were they all racist too?
I don’t think anyone accused Hardball of being racist when they showed a picture of Osama while talking about Obama?
How about the LA Times speaking of young Obama going to mosque? Did anyone call them racist?
Debbie Schlussel raised the same question, are we calling her a racist?
So why is this white southern Christian man being called a racist? Is it because he’s a white southern Christian?
I don’t mind telling you that beyond Obama being an obvious hardcore socialist that I find his early association with Islam troubling. He sure won’t get my vote…. am I a racist too? Before you call me a racist, be aware that I would vote for Allen Keyes in a New York minute.
Let this man have his say, and quit picking on him because he’s a white southern preacher.
Maxx on April 22, 2008 at 11:36 AM
“He could see the villagers climbing up the hill, armed with pitchforks of reason and shovels of civil discourse, their way lighted up with torches of logic. Polite torches, he was quick to note.”
Tzetzes on April 22, 2008 at 11:37 AM
I’m sure his “change one letter” comment was cherry-picked.
In the list of stupid things said in this video, that line was probably number 25.
The point of the hit piece by WSPA was to paint anyone criticizing Obama as a racist.
For people here at HA not to instantly recognize that and stand up for the pastor is scary and disgraceful.
faraway on April 22, 2008 at 11:39 AM
headline from news clip: “Questioning his name” seems awfully messianic. How dare someone take “his name” in vain. Rasist no . . . stupid probably.
infidel2 on April 22, 2008 at 11:39 AM
What a redneck. I think people should have to complete a test before they vote, honestly.
I am so sick of these idiots choosing who will run this country. The guy is obviously a loon.
AprilOrit on April 22, 2008 at 11:41 AM
First of all, I’m glad to see that this guy has few defenders. A lot of you seem to be concerned that this is being touted as a racial story. It is strange that the protesters of the sign–at least the ones that the news report shows us–are all African-Americans… perhaps this church has a history that we’re unaware of or there is some other local rivalry that we’re not told about? But setting that aside, I think the racial element might come into play because the sign seems to be aimed at people with racist and bigoted tendencies. In other words, it seems aimed at some of the basest human tendencies. If somebody is ignorant enough to be a racist, there’s a good chance that they’re not too crazy about Muslims either. Conflating the two prejudices might give a person with a bigoted outlook a somewhat more socially acceptable moral justification for disliking a candidate based on racial or ethnic identity. This guy doesn’t really seem intelligent enough to have any well thought out motivations behind the sign, but as I said, it does seem curious (but, to me, not quite the non-sequitur that some of you are making it out to be) that the African-American community as well as the reporter covering the story seem to look at it through a purely racial lens. Maybe they misinterpreted his use of the word “brothers” (again, I don’t think this guy really thought this through enough to intentionally insert racially coded terms).
Second of all, this video is still pretty hilarious in a viral video kind of way.
Yoosaion on April 22, 2008 at 11:41 AM
We allow the most uninformed among us to choose our leader, it’s really so sick.
AprilOrit on April 22, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Actually your question is a sincere one, so I will answer. I was actually responding to him personally. Freevillage wants to be part of the mainstream, he quite often infers that us conservatives are not part of the mainstream, so that was a shot at him. He said mainstream, so I grouped into the mainstream. Unfortunately I chose terrible, ugly sentences to state that. Sometimes you just get in a rush…sometimes a cigar is just a cigar…
And since many of us know each from past posts, we don’t always have to state what we believe in every post to discern what is actually being said.
For instance; you don’t have to say anything about me personally in a post, but I know you are enamored with me…
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 11:43 AM
April, I know you don’t see many Southerners in NYC. But they are not all bitter rednecks.
Please tell us exactly what made you refer to this pastor as a redneck?
faraway on April 22, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Take the ger out of Roger and change it to bin and you get this.
Jeez, that mean he pushes adult entertainment and was in Debbie Does Dallas?
So freaking sick of morons having a platform.
AprilOrit on April 22, 2008 at 11:47 AM
It is difficult, that is what makes being a conservative so special…just because the racial issue is foolish, doesn’t mean we defend a foolish pastor. He is an embarrassment, this is a case where his tax advantage should be reviewed. A church is not their to inject their political views. I regard the issue of race, in this instance, a straw man, I regard this pastor as a pathetic man.
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 11:47 AM
April, you have now called a Southern pastor a “redneck”, a “loon”, a “moron”, and an “idiot”.
faraway on April 22, 2008 at 11:49 AM
His church in on wheels??
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 11:49 AM
right2bright, please inform us when exactly the pastor discussed politics? He specifically stated he was not being political. He is raising a religious question only.
faraway on April 22, 2008 at 11:51 AM
We have rednecks here as well, they all don’t live in the South by any means, they are all over.
A redneck is someone who is misinformed and refuses to accept the truth.
The Truthers are rednecks, this guy is akin to them.
We all know Obama isn’t a Muslim, we all know the USA didn’t fly planes into the WTC, they people refuse to accept the truth and reality.
AprilOrit on April 22, 2008 at 11:52 AM
This was no religious question.
AprilOrit on April 22, 2008 at 11:54 AM
What a knuckle-dragging buffoon. Not political…LOL. It’s about a presidential candidate! How could it be apolitical. Too many rednecks like this in SC.
Constant Parrhesia on April 22, 2008 at 11:54 AM
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