Open thread: Pennsylvania; Update: Fox News calls it for Hillary
posted at 5:51 pm on April 22, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Drudge says it’s 52-48 Hillary as of 5 p.m. ET; Fox News should have exits by demographic group at 6 p.m. I can’t find the data Marc Ambinder’s citing but I’ll take his word on it: “25% of Clinton supporters say they’d vote for McCain in the general election; 17% of Obama supporters say they’d vote for McCain in the general election.” Plus, a whiff of Chaos from the AP:
One in 10 voters changed their party registration since the start of the year so they could vote in the hotly contested primary, which was open only to registered Democrats. About half of the party-switchers had been registered Republicans and the rest had been unaffiliated with either party.
One in five say race was a key factor in their vote, another one in five say gender was. Standby for updates galore.
Update: Here’s the complete exit poll data set from CNN.
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Hillary! Wins! PA!
Rush will be fun to listen to tomorrow.
CHAOS
Good Lt on April 22, 2008 at 8:58 PM
SoulGlo—not anymore–think its about 52/48 for BHO
dish on April 22, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Hey give CNN some credit. They called it for McCain.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Looking good for Hillary.
10 point+ lead still possible.
That’s Coulter’s girl!!
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Barone says 55/45 Hillary/Obama
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Minute by minute tho, Hillary’s huge initial lead is slowly waning. 15 minutes ago, she was up 30 pts. Now it’s 6 pts.
JetBoy on April 22, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Audacious Hope and Change has wandered into
Hillarys nasty 88’s,Obama’s getting Flacked!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 9:01 PM
GET to hear? All I’ve heard for the past few weeks from the “enlightened” people I know is that white people living outside the cities of PA would NEVER vote for a black person. You hear this left and right. Somehow they’ve all met people who have stated out loud that they’d never vote for a black person to be president. I’m from South Carolina, and even the rednecks I know down there are more enlightened than that. I think the Obama-maniacs here in Philly are just getting the excuses ready for when Hillary takes the lead.
kimberly on April 22, 2008 at 9:03 PM
7 % of Philly’s precincts just reported that gave Obama a boost
William Amos on April 22, 2008 at 9:03 PM
All I can say to the Democrat party is good luck with a radical Black candidate who lost almost every big state to a woman with 50% negatives.
John McCain gets karma payback for 5 years in Hanoi.
jjshaka on April 22, 2008 at 9:03 PM
who is that “woman of color” on fox? She looks like that girl from the Apprentice.
dish on April 22, 2008 at 9:04 PM
22 % of Philly has reported and Obama only has a 8 Thousand vote lead there.
William Amos on April 22, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Pittsburgh starting to come in and its going heavy for Obama
William Amos on April 22, 2008 at 9:07 PM
At the story Allah linked to about Operation Chaos, the author of the story wrote
“By some estimates, hundreds of Republicans switched parties to keep the feud going between Clinton and Obama.”
Don’t they wish it was hundreds!! I guess it was hundreds, like in 500 hundred or 2,000 hundred
EJDolbow on April 22, 2008 at 9:07 PM
I can probably beat that just by saying 54/46 Hillary/Obama.
MB4 on April 22, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Ron Paul beating Huckabee into 3rd place!
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Barry can’t close. Hopefully our girl wins by at least 8 points.
phronesis on April 22, 2008 at 9:11 PM
McCain has his karma payback for Hanoi…
it’s called SHAMNESTY, MCAIN _ FEINGOLD, MCCAIN GANG OF 14…
and he will make sure WE ALL FEEL IT TOO…
4 more years of Bush (with McCain), a CinC who is scared to really protect and defend America (like Bush), and a crappy economy…
I thought conservatives already had enough of Democrats in sheep clothing (but I guess not).
TOPV on April 22, 2008 at 9:12 PM
What county is Scranton in? I know Allentown is in Lehigh and Bradford is McKean (I think).
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Interesting that 70% of Democratic voters are over 45. Obama’s yoof vote isn’t nearly as powerful as the MSM would have us believe.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Looks like Hillary’s Titanic has scraped by,
yet once again!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 9:14 PM
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Looking for the Dunder/Mifflin vote tally?
dish on April 22, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Awesome. Shrillary up by 10 after 11% reporting. Keep it up woman!
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 9:16 PM
I don’t understand? I work with someone from Bradford, PA and I remember some song about living Allentown…lol. Those are my points of reference…sorry it’s nothing more.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 9:19 PM
I dunno, but I just heard KP say–of camera–”I’m an adict”.
DaveS on April 22, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Sorry for your bitter loss tonight. Really.
Nichevo on April 22, 2008 at 9:19 PM
I’ll be she meant “addict” though.
DaveS on April 22, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Look for a lot of Chaos in Indiana in two weeks. Probably a double digit win for Her Majesty.
heddly_lamar on April 22, 2008 at 9:20 PM
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Sorry, was just talking to a friend about NBC “The Office” which takes place in Scranton. I think its in Lackawanna Co.
dish on April 22, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Boy is it going to get nastier from here on out. Obama better eat all his waffles now.
Chuck Schick on April 22, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Yes, it’s in Lackawanna Co. I went to college there.
stenwin77 on April 22, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Man the ABC election coverage comments are hillarious they are blaming ABC for backstabbing Obama and causing the loss
William Amos on April 22, 2008 at 9:26 PM
16% and still holding at +6 Hill.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Thanks…! I found it…she’s cleaning his clock there…not even close!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Allegheny (Pitt) tally on CNN borked (shows 175k votes for each candidate)
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:29 PM
LOL…sorry it shows 175k for Obama and 175k for the other Obama
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Ok they just fixed it…55-45 Obama
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Hey RedPill…Huck is making a push up in Pike county.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Actually one I’ve read are Hillary supporters, cheering her on.
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 9:34 PM
It’s begun — the Huck resurgence!
Nichevo on April 22, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:32 PM
The County Registrar site has a 55/44 Hillary/BHO in Allegheny Co with over 43% reporting!!
dish on April 22, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Beckel, off camera, just said that it looks like Hillary should win by 15 points “if these numbers are correct.”
DaveS on April 22, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Thanks….thats another beer on my pledge!
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:42 PM
I wonder if Michelle Obama is proud of Pennsylvania tonight?
stenwin77 on April 22, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Obama is done and should drop out for the good of the party.
Iblis on April 22, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Nevermind RedPill, he is back below Paul and McCain now there too.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:48 PM
That’s a major coup for sure…looks like the Philadelphia suburbs will increase her margins…CHAOS!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 9:48 PM
The glitch on the cnn site seems to have updated Allegheny county now showing 56/44 Hill/BHO with 45%
dish on April 22, 2008 at 9:49 PM
she is down 20 in Philly with 66% in.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:49 PM
sorry, 45% reporting :)
dish on April 22, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Philadelphia:
R Votes: ~16,000 Votes
D Votes: ~290,000 Votes
This is gonna be ugly in november.
lorien1973 on April 22, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Looks as if Ron Paul is going to trounce Huckster. Troofers will be celebrating.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Guess all those rural voters took a break from polishing their guns and thumping their Bibles to cast a vote.
Bishop on April 22, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Yes, but the suburb counties aren’t reporting fully or at all as of yet.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Finally, another person who can see past all the hype. They can discount those 290k all they want, Hills stay home, Barrys stay home, crossovers, bored. It isn’t going to get it close to that 16k.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:57 PM
McCain can’t even pull 3/4 of Republicans even though he is the presumptive nominee. You want chaos? Pop that zit at the convention.
Valiant on April 22, 2008 at 9:57 PM
I take that back.
Look at all those racist Pennsylvanians who have refused to vote for the Black Guy™. I guess they don’t like outsiders.
Bishop on April 22, 2008 at 9:58 PM
No it aint. The GOP candidate is already decided, whereas the Dems are locked in a vicious and frantic struggle to the death. No reason for any GOP voter to bother to turn out unless you want to register a protest vote, and apart from the Paulnuts there aren’t too many of those in PA.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Sorry…should have read ALL your post. My bad.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 9:58 PM
wondered when you’d emerge from your cave. Impressive margin of victory for the Mac tonight.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 10:00 PM
But the Repubs had no reason to get out and vote today.
mikeyboss on April 22, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Exactly, it’s more fun voting for Dems right now, the Republicans have chosen their candidate.
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Me thinks the Liberal Kitchen is getting Hotter!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 10:00 PM
It’s okay! If you look at his margin in Philly and hers in Pittsburgh, he only has about a 22,000 lead. That is really, really the story of the night. Most of the rest of the state is hers for the taking….unless something weird happens in the Philly ‘burbs.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Hillary, that’s my Conservative Girl.
Snake307 on April 22, 2008 at 10:02 PM
McCain can’t even pull 3/4 of Republicans even though he is the presumptive nominee. You want chaos? Pop that zit at the convention.
McCain is the nominee and there are how many of his voters staying home because they are…uhh…aware of that fact?
The Hucksters and RP Troofers are out there voting in vain like the wierdos they are, their fevered imaginations telling themselves there is still a chance.
Bishop on April 22, 2008 at 10:02 PM
You guys HAVE GOT TO WATCH Shep Smith on the Live Stream. That’s one funny dude.
DaveS on April 22, 2008 at 10:04 PM
lorien1973 on April 22, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Where have you been hiding? McCain already won the GOP nomination; most Republicans either stayed home and ate popcorn, or crossed over and voted for BJ’s wife.
McCain will win in November by a landslide. However, the GOP is likely to lose additional seats in both houses. Quite frankly, both parties are a total mess with Democrats having been taken over by radical elements of the Liberal underground, and Republicans having been taken over by blue dog country club power thirsty ego maniacs.
I can’t believe I actually heard a Republican governor tell fellow Republicans that it’s time to put Reagan politics behind us. Real sign of the mindset controlling the GOP right now.
Keemo on April 22, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Pat Caddell predicts Hillary in low teens. He also says that people don’t tell pollsters the truth.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Pat Cadell just said Hill will win by a margin in the mid-teens.
mikeyboss on April 22, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Back to 10 point lead after 52%. Keep it up Shrillary.
No way Obama can spin a double digit loss tomorrow.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 10:08 PM
They are panicking at the comments on ABC News:
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Gee it’s fun watching two people have a conversation you cannot participate in!
Come on H.A. why not give us a chat room forum for monumental days like this!
Weebork on April 22, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Entelechy, not only did you beat me to it, but you spelled Caddell’s name correctly. I salute you.
mikeyboss on April 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Did Clinton’s campaign stuff the bleachers with black voters behind Hillary’s podium? Heh.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Probable that her share of the vote will rise as the second half of results come in. Obama’s strengths were supposed to be in Pittsburgh and Philly, and they are now 75% reporting.
mid-teens would be a big blow for the Messiah
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Obama will be vindicated by tonight’s results, apparently so will Wright. Hope, change and audacity has been dealt a low-blow.
Bishop on April 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I’d fork over some $$$ for that privilege.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 10:11 PM
McCain can’t win without the base. If only a few percent of us sit out or vote third party, it’s over for J-Mac.
Q: When is his campaign to win over conservatives going to start?
A: Never, because he doesn’t want us griping as he governs from the left and redefines the GOP.
Valiant on April 22, 2008 at 10:12 PM
I just asked the HA Gods about Operation Chaos. Let’s see if they’ll bless me with a response!
Weebork on April 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Isn’t it funny how we’re all cheering Hillary on?
Politics doth make strange bed-fellows of us all.
…er Go Hillary!
Mojave Mark on April 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Will be interesting to see how Philadelphia’s mayor does in the next election. I applaud a politician having a spine…even if he’s a democrat.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 10:15 PM
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Leftist wackjobs know all about treason. It’s good to see them caring about the founding fathers, instead of projecting black illegitimate kids on them through revisionist history.
Cold Steel on April 22, 2008 at 10:15 PM
They’re hyperventilating. They can feel the general election slipping and they thought they would win a landslide this year. Although, I’m starting to think (after today) if Hillary wins the nod, they could possibly win big.
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM
HA!
Buy Danish on April 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM
So with Sen Clinton’s victory tonight, Pennsylvania is proving that it is a more racist state than a sexist state!
Weebork on April 22, 2008 at 10:20 PM
The Hillary supporters are booing Obama.
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Chelsea looks happy. I guess she’s gotten over having her ass of life grabbed.
mikeyboss on April 22, 2008 at 10:22 PM
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Triceratops v. Hilldebeast. If it goes this way, it’s going to bore me to tears. Maybe they can have a drink-off to see who passes out first. I’m all for Chaos, but it looks as if we’ve initiated MAD with the dims. They shot our hopes in the face, so we’re knee-capping theirs.
Cold Steel on April 22, 2008 at 10:22 PM
I Love it … What happened to the “O”mentum?
ORrighty on April 22, 2008 at 10:22 PM
I am so giddy watching the democrats do this…lmao.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 10:24 PM
mikeyboss on April 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I love Pat Caddell. He’s an honest Democrat.
Hillary is so full of caca, that I’m puking word-by-word.
The Clintons will ‘rebuild’ the military. What a hypocrite she is. Puke, puke, puke.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Obama’s kung fu is weak tonight
Weebork on April 22, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Does this woman have a genuine bone in her body?
Even when she’s saying she’s happy she’s won, she sounds insincere.
shibumiglass on April 22, 2008 at 10:25 PM
That voice of hers. If one stops looking, and just listens, it’s devastating. Mrs. Screetch.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Is it possible for her to win the popular vote?
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Hey Hillary. Shut up while your ahead.
She started off good in the speech until she started talking about the war and Bush. We won’t have much of a country to prosper in if we have bio warfare in the streets. Get off the troops returns ya idiot.
johnnyU on April 22, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Now she’s holding her first State of the Union speech. Gore me.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Meanwhile…Back at Team Hillarys Ranch,
Hillary is celebrating her win with a fine
glass of Canadian whiskey,having her feet
messaged by Slick,and overhead cackling her
!ss off!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Is she getting misty-eyed over the WW2 soldier?!?!?
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 10:27 PM
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