Open thread: Pennsylvania; Update: Fox News calls it for Hillary
posted at 5:51 pm on April 22, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Drudge says it’s 52-48 Hillary as of 5 p.m. ET; Fox News should have exits by demographic group at 6 p.m. I can’t find the data Marc Ambinder’s citing but I’ll take his word on it: “25% of Clinton supporters say they’d vote for McCain in the general election; 17% of Obama supporters say they’d vote for McCain in the general election.” Plus, a whiff of Chaos from the AP:
One in 10 voters changed their party registration since the start of the year so they could vote in the hotly contested primary, which was open only to registered Democrats. About half of the party-switchers had been registered Republicans and the rest had been unaffiliated with either party.
One in five say race was a key factor in their vote, another one in five say gender was. Standby for updates galore.
Update: Here’s the complete exit poll data set from CNN.
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Keep in mind most of the voters in this contest are democrats so chaos isnt an operation its a way of life in that party.
William Amos on April 22, 2008 at 5:54 PM
52-48 is not good news
I’ll be praying for a 10-point Clinton lead which is what we need to keep this slugfest going until the convention.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 5:55 PM
I wouldn’t put much stock in exit polls. The polls are open until 8:00 and a lot of people vote after work.
My husband is a Democrat and we got a robocall this a.m. from Michelle Obama and a visit at midday from an Obama volunteer making sure he votes. Pretty impressive. We also got a ton of mail from Obama, a little from Hillary, and a few calls from Hillary. There were even Obama signs at my daughter’s elementary school this morning and it isn’t a polling place. This is in Bucks County.
I’ll wager that Obama kicks ass in Philadelphia and Bucks County, does pretty well in Montgomery and Chester Counties, and gets massacred everywhere else in the state.
rockmom on April 22, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Snoop Dog in German…Fo’ Shizzlbergen my nizzlhosen!
JetBoy on April 22, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Hillary does an Ohio and get a double digit win. Then we get to hear for 2 weeks about how racist White people are! YAY!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM
I made a pledge…..one beer per Hillary point. Here is hoping for a hangover tomorrow.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 6:04 PM
That’s a good one. I think I’ll stop at the store on the way home! I think she needs a minimum of 12 points. Coincidence? I think not!
RushBaby on April 22, 2008 at 6:08 PM
We have truly gone through the looking glass into bizarro world when remarks like this are being made here:
and
INC on April 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM
The commenters there are sure blaming the
debate“ambush”.RushBaby on April 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM
lol INC, so true.
trailortrash on April 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM
I feel queasy!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Excuse my French, but he has to be f-ing with us here. No way I’m believing this until the results are in.
Typhonsentra on April 22, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Trying to decide if it is age (cough-creak) or genuine curiosity but I can’t think of another election where I was so wrapped up in the Dem’s primaries.
It is probably age. That’s what my wife tells me anyway.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 6:16 PM
OK…Who’s the real Allahpundit?
JetBoy on April 22, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Geraghty’s exit polls may come from the same people who had McCain losing Arizona to Romney.
CK MacLeod on April 22, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Drudge:
Women
Clinton 55%
Obama 44
Men
Clinton 47%
Obama 53
EXIT POLL DRAMA 5 PM ET: CLINTON 52, OBAMA 48
bnelson44 on April 22, 2008 at 6:26 PM
TOUCHE’!!!!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 6:31 PM
I won’t believe she’s done until there’s a stake in her heart and her mouth is stuffed with holy wafers.
JayHaw Phrenzie on April 22, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Hillary’s voters are working.
Little Boy Obama’s voters came in their jammies (sounds like bloggers, huh)
faraway on April 22, 2008 at 6:33 PM
In fact, there are more reasons to distrust exit polls on this race than usual - including a magnified “in-person” Bradley-Wilder effect, and also including an enthusiastic Obama-voter vias. Bitter people like Hillary voters and Operation Chaoticists bow their heads and walk on when they spot an exit poll interviewer.
CK MacLeod on April 22, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Julie NIXON EISENHOWER is supporting Obama.
I can’t take any more. This is nuts!
stenwin77 on April 22, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Pennsylvania Department of State results, for later.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 6:40 PM
In Pennsylvania, from CNN
McCain was seen grinning sheepishly.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Operation Chaos,is there any new information coming in from the front!
In the fog of voting,has there been a clear cut slaughter,
or is it turning into a slow political bleed!haha.
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Obama had decamped to Indiana for the result tonight.
Thats your exit poll.
jjshaka on April 22, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Cnn says its getting serious,and the longer it goes on
for Democrats its going to get more serious,said by
Wolf Blitzer!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Makes no sense why a Rep. would go through the trouble of crossing over, only to vote for Obama. WTF?
That is unless they really are for him in the long run.
Vigilante on April 22, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Split camp…like everything else in this country….depends on who they think the weaker candidate is. Ran into a lot of that here in Texas.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 6:54 PM
And Denver gets closer…still no clear winner…
DNConvention bracing for unknown…tick tick tick!!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 6:58 PM
ABCNews story today:
You go, grrrl.
leftnomore on April 22, 2008 at 7:00 PM
So it sounds like on CNN,that the longer the Political bleeding continues its going to cement each side more,
so at this rate,maybe in Denver each side Obama,Hillary
won’t be speaking to each other!
That would be priceless!TICK…TICK…TICK!!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Meanwhile Ohio governor Ted Strickland still trying to become VP candidate
William Amos on April 22, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Denver = Circus City(SM)
ParisParamus on April 22, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Chug! Chug! Chug! Chug!
forest on April 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/live_blogging_pennsylvania_exi.php
Well-informed observations, esp. on exit polls - including that they’ve disproportionately favored Obama in 18 of 20 contests, and that at approximately this relative time in Ohio, for instance, they had him up 2 - he lost by 10.
CK MacLeod on April 22, 2008 at 7:14 PM
I just heard Paul Bagala say Hillarys lips to Gods ears,
and I just about upchucked my supper!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Yeah, if past over sampling of Obamessiah supporters is any guide, Her Thighness could have eight + more points. 60-40 would be sweet!
Iblis on April 22, 2008 at 7:19 PM
if we are relying on exit polls, remember the Bradley Effect. Look for actual published numbers
Sekhmet on April 22, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Donna Brazile…good lord!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Well here we go,complaint’s of polling machine breakdowns!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Bill will probably attack Michelle’s Obama’s fashion sense, next, and Barry will be discovered to have given Arafat a foot massage after a particularly grueling intifada.
profitsbeard on April 22, 2008 at 7:24 PM
CK MacLeod, I was about to post exactly what you did. I don’t think Operation Chaos voters are nearly as likely to participate in exit polls as young, enthusiastic, newly-registered Obama supporters. The OC voters are probably trying to get out of there asap so they can go home and shower.
Missy on April 22, 2008 at 7:24 PM
I would imagine the MSM Obama line will be to have him close early and declare a moral victory for the Lamb and ignore the story as Hillary slowly piles up votes in the “bitter” areas.
If not, this is gonna be great.
jjshaka on April 22, 2008 at 7:30 PM
I always love how people in the media say “The media has done such and such…to create such and such”. You are the fricking media for crying out loud!
Vigilante on April 22, 2008 at 7:32 PM
They will surely, especially on pMSNBC, say that White people ARE bitter and racist, too!!!!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 7:37 PM
“Operation Chaos” is one fat bigmouth sitting in Florida.
If he and his slavering acolytes did something positive — such as support McCain for such positions as conservatives find palatable like patriotism, honesty and character — they might have an effect.
Megadittos, El Rushbo. DLTDHYOTAOYWO.
MrScribbler on April 22, 2008 at 7:42 PM
I’m in the door.
steveegg on April 22, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Calling Indy Conservative!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 7:50 PM
It’ll be called around 8:45…as Hillary does surprisingly well in the Philly burbs and pulls WAY ahead as that infamoust “T” region comes in.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Can it be that exit polls are the only thing it the world that doesn’t get leaked?
What makes them so sacred?
Why even TRY to not leak them?
If I did/funded some and didn’t hold them until the polls closed why should I be criticized?
Pythagoras on April 22, 2008 at 7:52 PM
I wanted to ask people’s opinion here about my Penn. voting experience today. I went to a vote in an overwhelmingly liberal district, but for some reason there was a guy who happened to be black who was trolling for any evidence that some bigotry happened at my precinct. I’m just so sick of the racism-mongers that I just said “F*** you” when he approached me with concerns that I’m a victim of discrimination. What was going through my head is Ezra Levant’s statement that we shouldn’t be nice to the fascists who wish to control us. Perhaps, I should have been more eloquent in my disdain for him. I suppose if I had it do over again, I probably say “I have only utter contempt for anyone stupid enough to look for evidence of racism in this most leftist of districts. Nor do I think you’re going to find evidence of discrimination in voting in central PA.”
thuja on April 22, 2008 at 7:53 PM
That’s exactly what Barone says she needs to keep her chance at winning the overall popular vote alive.
Go Hillary! Chaos in Denver!
Nichevo on April 22, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Thanks, Allah, for taking one for the team!!!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Well, “F*** you” is a statement, maybe not quite as eloquent as you might have wished in retrospect, but a definite statement. Did he get the message?
Nichevo on April 22, 2008 at 8:05 PM
I made a pledge…..one beer per Hillary point. Here is hoping for a hangover tomorrow.
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 6:04 PM
That’s funny!
Keemo on April 22, 2008 at 8:05 PM
I read at Politico where early exit polls should favor Obama cuz they are in Philly and Pitt, If Hill is ahead at this point big win for her
windansea on April 22, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Well, that’s just the problem with my lack of eloquence. I’m sure he had no clue where I was coming from.
It occurs to me that I didn’t my fear that our tax dollars are probably paying for these efforts to find someone mentally unstable enough to claim to be the victim of racism, sexism, or some-ism in voting. I do know our tax dollars go to harass small time landlords with lawsuits about discrimination.
thuja on April 22, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Hillary wins by double digit numbers. Obama is sliding down the Liberal sewer rapidly…
Keemo on April 22, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Will there be riots in Philadelphia?
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 8:12 PM
That exit poll is utterly bizarre!
In a Clinton v. McCain matchup, 26% of those Dems voting McCain are supporting Clinton today?? Looks like Operation Chaos is on the radar.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 8:12 PM
I wanted to ask…
thuja on April on April 22,2008 at 7:53PM.
thuja: Liberal democracy in action against Liberals,
and while your there to vote,your getting harassed
by a walking telemarketer!
And even waiting to vote,liberals have an ongoing
agenda,how nice!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Has anybody been noticeing how giddy CNN is becoming
over talking about Hillary!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Obama wins men by 6 - very bad news.
That’s not going to be more than a 4 point win for Shrillary at best.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Operation Chaos!
Keep her in so we can win!
Big Orange on April 22, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Obama is sliding down the Liberal sewer rapidly…
Keemo on April 22,2008 at 8:12PM.
Keemo: “Obama is sliding down the Liberal sewer rapidly”
to the boiling pit of sewage,that being H!LL!
Fixed that for ya!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 8:19 PM
umm, didn’t cnn report totals quicker in previous primaries? they don’t have any results yet….
dish on April 22, 2008 at 8:21 PM
I can’t believe I’m sitting here pulling for Hillary. I feel like I need therapy.
God help us all.
Big Orange on April 22, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Which is why the debate in NC was cancelled. He’s scared…
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Hope Hildabeast expoits this in the upcoming days.
Vigilante on April 22, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Looks like the polls in Philly were not allowed to stay open late. HEH!
From..gulp…DKOS
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Obama’s vote:
Philadelphia: 69%
Philly suburbs: 62%
Pittsburgh: 38%
Rest of state: 42%
?????
MB4 on April 22, 2008 at 8:31 PM
What’s the source?
Nichevo on April 22, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Clinton 1,416 65% Obama 748 35%
From that CNN link.
Paul! over Huck on the Rep. side…haha.
Vigilante on April 22, 2008 at 8:37 PM
I think Hillary’s numbers are suffering from a bit of primary fatigue settling in. You can’t blame Democrat voters for feeling a bit shell-shocked and weary of the bruising primary season. I wonder if a certain weary resignation isn’t settling in… they might feel a bit queasy about Barry O, especially after the last couple of weeks, but they’re tired of the circus and they’re ready to settle on him as their candidate. Call it the Bob Dole Express, and we all know what the last stop on that particular railroad is…
Doctor Zero on April 22, 2008 at 8:39 PM
From..gulp…KDOS
SouthernGent on April 22,2008 at 8:31PM.
SouthernGent: After visiting KDOS,I hope you showered
in rubbing alcohol!Haha.
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Those early numbers are from PHILADELPHIA county, per Politico. THat’s excellent news for her.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 8:42 PM
KOS. They should be on top of this $hit as it is theirs.
MB4 on April 22, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Maybe we can annex Canada so we can have more primaries.
Chuck Schick on April 22, 2008 at 8:45 PM
No wishful thinking either, of course.
Nichevo on April 22, 2008 at 8:45 PM
the cnn website shows philadelphia county at 65/35
dish on April 22, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Brit Hume just said, with less than 1% reporting, Hillary wins. But by how much? So far, she’s 65% to Obama’s 35%
JetBoy on April 22, 2008 at 8:46 PM
HEll yes! I was right! I predicted at 8:45 they’d call the race! What’s my prize?!!?
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Rush, you magnificent Ba$tard !
stenwin77 on April 22, 2008 at 8:46 PM
That’s huge for her…shocka!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 8:47 PM
heh…right on the money!
JetBoy on April 22, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Ah man, they called it for McCain already.
Vigilante on April 22, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Check out the live stream of the Strategy Room on Fox’s website. Lot’s of great discussion with McGlowan, Powers, steele, and Beckel plus lots of behind the scenes footage of Chris Wallace, LOL
D0WNT0WN on April 22, 2008 at 8:48 PM
LOL, Wallace makes lots of odd breathing sounds when he’s waiting for the break to end.
DaveS on April 22, 2008 at 8:51 PM
msnbc calls it for hillary
heddly_lamar on April 22, 2008 at 8:52 PM
CNN playing chicken…no call yet.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Chaos!
spmat on April 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM
A genuine Obama poster. You’ll find one lying on any streetcorner in Philly.
Nichevo on April 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM
LOL! I feel your pain.
myamphibian on April 22, 2008 at 8:56 PM
CNN is making a play for the conspiracy theory vote.
DaveS on April 22, 2008 at 8:56 PM
And MSDNC goes into Obama spin mode!
Now she has to win by alot- too funny.
Senile Brokaw touting the Lambs ability to bring in Republicans- these deluded nuts are priceless.
jjshaka on April 22, 2008 at 8:56 PM
Hillary is up 65 to 35 in Philadelphia? For real? That can’t be right.
SoulGlo on April 22, 2008 at 8:57 PM
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