Open thread: Pennsylvania; Update: Fox News calls it for Hillary
posted at 5:51 pm on April 22, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Drudge says it’s 52-48 Hillary as of 5 p.m. ET; Fox News should have exits by demographic group at 6 p.m. I can’t find the data Marc Ambinder’s citing but I’ll take his word on it: “25% of Clinton supporters say they’d vote for McCain in the general election; 17% of Obama supporters say they’d vote for McCain in the general election.” Plus, a whiff of Chaos from the AP:
One in 10 voters changed their party registration since the start of the year so they could vote in the hotly contested primary, which was open only to registered Democrats. About half of the party-switchers had been registered Republicans and the rest had been unaffiliated with either party.
One in five say race was a key factor in their vote, another one in five say gender was. Standby for updates galore.
Update: Here’s the complete exit poll data set from CNN.
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I just vomited up a perfectly good dinner watching this speech.
johnnyU on April 22, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:24 PM
I fondly remember my military days from CINC Bill. We had lots of paint rounds and blanks to train with. Remember though, you’ll need more than the National Guard and ATF to enforce global warming initiatives and universal health care. Hill will keep the boys guarding our interests in ANWR.
Cold Steel on April 22, 2008 at 10:28 PM
What was the margin predicted for Hillary a few weeks ago in PA? I don’t remember…
dish on April 22, 2008 at 10:28 PM
johnnyU on April 22, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Regurgitated regurgitation: a 3rd Clinton term.
Cold Steel on April 22, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I think they told Bill to sit the hell down and stay out of the picture. He ruins it for her too much and I think they finally know it.
johnnyU on April 22, 2008 at 10:31 PM
dish –
I did think it would be more than this. You?
shibumiglass on April 22, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Her speech is not inspiring. It’s a propaganda. She talks down and nothing will ever change.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Someone in her camp was listening to Rush today…talking about America in a good light.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Keemo on April 22, 2008 at 10:06 PM
You all would have a point; if the vote margins weren’t the same (or greater) when the republican nomination wasn’t decided.
lorien1973 on April 22, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Someone should tell her to NEVER turn her back to a camera.
heddly_lamar on April 22, 2008 at 10:33 PM
She just knocked down all of Obama’s campaign. Yes We Will!
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Sorry I meant:
She just knocked down all of Obama’s campaign slogan. Yes We Will!
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:34 PM
shibumiglass on April 22, 2008 at 10:31 PM
I would have liked double digits…
dish on April 22, 2008 at 10:34 PM
dish
me too!
shibumiglass on April 22, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Has the cackler mentioned another debate with the Him yet?
dish on April 22, 2008 at 10:36 PM
No – the ratio before was about 5:3 – nothing like what we’re seeing now in PA.
CK Macleod has posted several times on this, showing that the only time in recent contests that the GOP had a higher proportion of voters in the primaries was 1996 (for obvious reasons). Check out his stats with a search.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 10:37 PM
C’mon Shrillary – we want double digits!
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Frank Luntz is schnapsed. He finds her speech “the greatest”. She is a lecturer, with no soul. The Gacier will always be very cold. Nothing’s changed.
Indian will be very interesting. NC will probably seal it.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Alas, Indiana.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Hoping for a change in the total count!
dish on April 22, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Shep Smith runs his set like a house party. That looks like a fun gig.
DaveS on April 22, 2008 at 10:41 PM
A bit of OT subject matter to celebrate my pledge….
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Cold Steel, my condolences :) Thank you for your service. I hope the country rids itself of the Clintons and the Bushes. Enough is enough of those cycles. Of course, I love this fight, and wish for it to continue for a while.
Obama will soon say “we’re in singular digits, we’re great”.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Ooops
They Will Win
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Ahhh, the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the NYT! Tomorrow’s gonna be a fun day!
dish on April 22, 2008 at 10:43 PM
‘night all—enjoyed spending the primary with you!
dish on April 22, 2008 at 10:44 PM
nite dish
Limerick on April 22, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Lesson for Barack Obama:
If you don’t have anything good to say about “small-town Pennsylvanians”, or of small-town Middle America for that matter, keep your damned mouth shut!
You can’t say the equivalent of “F*** Middle America!”, even in a “private” setting, and get away with it!
He dicho.
newton on April 22, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Hey! Don’t go that far into the future! Just check the Daily Kos! Ha!
newton on April 22, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Thanks for the laugh. :)
I already sat thru Hil-Rod’s speech. I don’t think I can do Bar-Rocks, too. Night, all.
Operation Chaos! We own the night!
shibumiglass on April 22, 2008 at 10:48 PM
You can say it in a room full of liberals and not only will you get away with it, you’ll probabaly be cheered.
Hollowpoint on April 22, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Here comes the love. Michelle O. is probably thinking “god, I hate this country, and that bitch”.
Just close your eyes and listen to the droning. These two, Hillary and Barry, make me crazy with their lectures, and their propaganda. I bet he’ll bring up the “misery” factor and how worse off we all are. The lies, and the hypocrisy make me sizzle.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:50 PM
What’s Larry David doing in Evansville, standing behind The Chosen One LOL
heddly_lamar on April 22, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Gawd the NYT editorial is acid. They know this result will prolong their agony, as well as the smiles of the GOP voters.
Pax americana on April 22, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Nirvana, Nirvana, Nirvana – that’s what we’re here for.
The agitprop makes me crazy. He’s now delivering his State of the Union speech.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Thank you!! I live in Evansville, and wondered if I knew that guy because he looked familiar. Now my mind is at ease :)
mikeyboss on April 22, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Kitchen tables are indignant.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Don’t you get it? That SF event was off-limits to the media! It was supposed to be a “private” event. And yet, someone recorded him!
In the end, he didn’t get away with it, even with a room full of limousine Liberals.
newton on April 22, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Wow. Obama is really going after John McCain.
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Yeah…and it seems out of place. But alas, so it begins…
JetBoy on April 22, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Obama’s Audacious speech,rambling on about the war,
Bush and McCain,and jobs heading to Tiawan! Oh My!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 10:57 PM
I guess it’s a way to say “I’m still the front runner”?
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Please don’t judge Evansville based on this crowd.
mikeyboss on April 22, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Conopfor,
You mean you’re not eating dirt and leaving under bridge? I thought we all our!
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 10:59 PM
*YAWN*
The man is boring me tears. His cadence is quite odd.
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Ah, he mentioned genocide. Forgot to mention the one his Iraq policy will cause.
thirtypundit on April 22, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Hey, McCain better watch out. Paul is inching up to 16%! He’s beating Huckabee too!
Weebork on April 22, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Larry David is doing better obama…
jp on April 22, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Please don’t judge Evansville based on the crowd.
mikeyboss on April 22,2008 at 10:PM.
Mikeyboss: Agreed,however it did look awfully Liberal to me!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 11:02 PM
hardly any repubs voted vs. Dem in Penn. in hibernation for general I hope.
jp on April 22, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Look at all of those white men behind him.
They must be the ones who hate women more than they hate blacks.
29Victor on April 22, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I don’t want him fighting for me.
29Victor on April 22, 2008 at 11:03 PM
What he heck is Shep doing? A web show?
Guardian on April 22, 2008 at 11:04 PM
The guys standing on either side of him look less than enthusiastic, like they thought they were showing up for a drawing for Colts tickets and ended up being shuffled into this mess.
heddly_lamar on April 22, 2008 at 11:04 PM
How much you want to bet that not a single person at the event so much as blinked an eye in disapproval?
Hollowpoint on April 22, 2008 at 11:04 PM
They’re just there for the free Ambercrombe & Fitch shirts.
Hollowpoint on April 22, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Nah, it’s actually a conservative area. I haven’t seen a single person I recognize at this rally yet, thank God.
mikeyboss on April 22, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Did he just we can make an American that will prosper for all mankind.
Wow, that’s quite grandiose.
terryannonline on April 22, 2008 at 11:05 PM
On Hot Air?
Can’t you guys get the data from a reliable source?
And later everybody cries about CNN being biased.
Indy Conservative on April 22, 2008 at 11:07 PM
It’s an eye opening result that 90% of the black vote still goes for Obama. I’d expect a decent majority–it’s only natural for people to identify with others like themselves. But only Sadam Hussein’s 100% election results can compete with 90%. I really think the Obama candidacy is exposing racism within the black community.
Maybe as the official “bitter” candidate, Obama is an outlet for the hate spewing likes of rev. Wright and other black racists. Though the kind of race based voting we’ve seen would only be described as racism if the vote percentages among white and black voters were reversed.
I repeat what Ms. Ferraro said–would Obama be there if he were not black? I doubt it.
BryanS on April 22, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Hey Indy Conservative,where ya bin!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Howard Dean: “Honey, where the hell is the Jack Daniels!”
Big Orange on April 22, 2008 at 11:13 PM
I feel Pennsylvania a breakin’ and Obama a shakin’
and I’m stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, I’m Stayin’ Alive.
Well now, I get dirty and I get high
And if I can’t win it’s not ’cause I don’t try.
Got the blood of that uppity Obama on my shoes
I’m Bill’s woman and I just can’t lose.
You know it’s all right, it’s O.K.
Even if I lose, Bill and I will live to screw you all another day.
- BG Hillary
MB4 on April 22, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Hey MB4,how about the tune,they want me in Indiana!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I have a photoshop somewhere on a CD of Shep standing atop a car which is in turn parked atop a rival reporter.
I really dislike Shep. It’s almost personal.
Ugly on April 22, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Tired. Has been a long day. Tomorrow too.
I was in the other topics, and will go to bed soon.
I have to get up early to milk my goat.
Indy Conservative on April 22, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Please end up being 12%!!!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Mellencamp’s actually going to do a gig for Clinton in Indy later this month after Obama’s tonight. Brian Willams says: “it’s terrible when even the entertainers can’t commit”
Tooooo Funny
Rovin on April 22, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Tired…
Indy Conservative on April 22,2008 at 11:16PM.
Indy Conservative: Ya I hear ya,long day,well
you didn’t miss much,Hilrod
is still in it!
canopfor on April 22, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Thanks to AP and Ed for liveblogging this event. Must have been stultifyingly boring for you; it’s much appreciated by me.
RushBaby on April 22, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Good for her!
You go girl!
I always dreamt of a cat fight between her and Monica Lewinsky.
Will my dream ever come true?
Indy Conservative on April 22, 2008 at 11:23 PM
It would be like watching a saber-toothed tiger devour a bag of marshmallows. Hardly a dream in my view.
RushBaby on April 22, 2008 at 11:25 PM
She’s got a > 200,000 vote lead! You go, girl!
SouthernGent on April 22, 2008 at 11:25 PM
While this is all going on, more trouble for Obama.
The woman who allegedly tipped off Texas Authorities on the Polygamy sect, turns out she’s a Democrat Precinct Committeewoman, and a pledged Obama Delegate from Colorado.
Mentioned in passing in the Denver Post a day ago, and picked up the Salt Lake City Trib.
Story just breaking all over the blogosphere.
This could be huge!
ericdondero on April 22, 2008 at 11:27 PM
You better watch out,
you better not spout off i’m tellin’ you why,
Hillary is coming to Washington town.
She’s making a list, checkin it twice,
she’s gonna find out whos conservative and whos nice,
Hillary is coming to Washington town.
The boys and girls in blogland will have a new critique
there gonna be censored all around
the internet street.
So you better watch out,
you better not spout off i’m tellin’ you why
Hillary is coming to Washington town
Hillary is coming
Hillary is coming
She’s coming to Washington town
Look out!!!
MB4 on April 22, 2008 at 11:33 PM
If you told me two years ago that I would be cheering any news of any kind of success for Hillary, I would have called the authorities to have you committed, because you were obviously insane.
As it is now, I can only say yay! I won’t capitalize it to Yay. or bold it to YAY.
But, yeah; yay!
LegendHasIt on April 22, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Heh. What an idiot.
Jaibones on April 22, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Looks like 55% to 45% for Hilly over Barry as the
Phillies win.
Keep the HOPE-A-DOPE alive!
profitsbeard on April 22, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Looks like Michael Barone called it early, to perfection. He’s really great on election topics.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Richardson, Reich, Kennedy…and a few other big/small Judases, must at least be thinking about things tonight. This part is hilariously schadenfreudig.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 11:54 PM
I’m trying no to get my hopes up either way. I’m genuinely frightened of conservatives underestimating either one of these two. Yes, I believe McCain can beat either one of them but it’ll take a fight to do it. Noting should be taken for granted.
Yakko77 on April 22, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Make sure you leave it at that.
IC, you’ve become one of the few who entertain me to laughing tears on HA. Your ’sweet’ carmudgeonly nature is extraordinarily apt for these times.
Entelechy on April 22, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Interesting, drove through one of the largest black neighborhoods and I would say probable over 1/2 the signs were for Hillary…that surprised me. We’ll see what happens here in NC.
right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 11:59 PM
There has to be another debate before the next set of primaries. That could be Hillary’s chance to really deliver a blow to Obama, and then there is no way the superdelegates will commit before they absolutely have to.
If Obama refuses…then GO WITH THE CHICKEN AD! It would be absolutely brilliant.
WisCon on April 23, 2008 at 12:00 AM
He is an acquired taste. For the sophisticated only.
Holmes on April 23, 2008 at 12:01 AM
MB4, you’re really on a roll tonight! Liked Stayin’ Alive best.
Rosmerta on April 23, 2008 at 12:04 AM
As a resident of NC, let me say now…watch as the polls close in Hillary’s favor. There are a lot of “conservative democrats” in the western part of the state. Obama may win, but it won’t be double digits…I’ll go with 5% now…maybe less.
SouthernGent on April 23, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Thanks for this terryannonline. I turned him off after a while, as the droning made me crazy. Now I feel more prosperous already :) Btw, I like you, even if I sometimes give you a bit of a hard time. Regards,
Entelechy on April 23, 2008 at 12:09 AM
can someone explain to me why were so interested in choosing the next president to bludgeon our Constitution?
RMC1618 on April 23, 2008 at 12:16 AM
RMC1618, can you be more specific, please.
Entelechy on April 23, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Well, so far, only one of them has actually been successful in bludgeoning it. Guess which one.
But no matter, the other two will no doubt keep trying too.
LegendHasIt on April 23, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Obama can’t win amongst traditional America.
If Hillary wins you have an angry revolt, perhaps riot.
Either way “The War Hero” who America knows very well, regardless of the spineless articles written in the last 24 hours have said, wins easily.
again, PRESIDENT JOHN SYDNEY MCCAIN. Hit the music, its over.
THE CHOSEN ONE on April 23, 2008 at 12:26 AM
So I guess the North Carolina debate is on again?
Bishop on April 23, 2008 at 12:30 AM
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Holmes on April 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Uh oh, Obama has his southern accent on overdrive.
Bishop on April 23, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Holmes on April 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM
You are correct sir, but it’s nice to know that with a Democratic congress that will be larger than the one we have now, will face a fiscally responsible, pro-life appointin’, non-retreatin’ Maverick.
THE CHOSEN ONE on April 23, 2008 at 12:42 AM
You guys blushed my butt cheeks!
Indy Conservative on April 23, 2008 at 6:57 AM
How DARE you use his middle name!!!!
Oh wait…
Darksean on April 23, 2008 at 8:27 AM
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