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Look into the Big Tan Pills marked “Seroquel/400.”
DrSteve on April 23, 2008 at 1:32 PM

DrSteve, it sounds like you are a member of the Big Science Academy. Here’s a quote from Richard Dawkins, your Class President:

“If you meet somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is ignorant, stupid or insane.”

Perhaps you believe like the folks over at Expelled Exposed who say:

Welcome to Expelled Exposed, a detailed look at the Ben Stein movie Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. We’ll show you why this movie is not a documentary at all, but anti-science propaganda aimed at creating the appearance of controversy where there is none.

Now if they are right, and there really is no controversy, please explain to me why the Hot Air thread about the movie Expelled has been the most controversial thread in the history of Hot Air, producing over 2300 comments from 178 unique commenters.

It’s very telling that you, as a Dr. are implying that I, a born-again, Holy Spirit-filled believer and follower of Jesus Christ, am insane and need Seroquel. That only goes to prove Ben Stein’s point. Thank you for doing so.

S on April 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM

There is nothing more wasteful of everyone’s time and computer memory than you ruminating at length about whether John McCain is disabled.

Years ago, the Department of Veterans Affairs determined whether Mr. McCain was disabled and the percentage of his disability. The only parties to that determination were the Department and Mr. McCain.

You were not asked for your opinion then and your opinion today is not uninformed and unneeded.

Look into the Big Tan Pills marked “Seroquel/400.”
DrSteve on April 23, 2008 at 1:32 PM

No thanks, I don’t do drugs.

But I’ll give you a joke to use with your patients. Look them in the eye and repeat the following:

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I’m schizophrenic,
And so am I.

By the way, a very good friend of mine is one of the 6 people per year who are accepted into the joint MD/PhD program at Duke University Medical School. He and I see eye-to-eye on the things I have posted regarding both politics and religion. But I guess you consider him schizophrenic, too. Nice try.

I question the sanity of people who don’t see the fingerprints of socialism all over McCain’s senate record.

Sheesh. Fight him on the policies. Don’t invent monsters when none are needed.

Sue on April 23, 2008 at 11:08 AM

McCain-Feingold and McCain-Kennedy are monsters in my eyes. I’m not inventing any monsters, McCain already did. And if McCain were become President, McCain-Kennedy will rise from the dead.

Or does it offend you that veterans can get some of their pension free from federal income tax?

Hey pinhead, there are varying levels of “disabled” for any sort of disability pension (not just military), from, say, 10% to 100%.

S on April 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM

I would love for you to say that to Gunny Snarky, who is concidered 100% disabled, yet got a “new leg” and went BACK to Iraq.

Some of you loons seriously think you have to be on the ground slobbering like a 6 month old, to receive any benefits while injured in a War. God Help you all if something happens to you!

The LA TIMES had a recent article that had the following title:

John McCain gets tax-free disability pension
The disclosure of the Navy benefit for injuries incurred as a Vietnam POW may raise fitness questions.
I don’t particularly want to disc…

As to the topic of this post, I hope the liberal media will continue such stupid attacks. This is the briar patch McCain wants to be in. “Attack me on my POW history, please!”

There are enough patriotic Americans to vote for him based on his character and history of service, even if some of his positions are troublesome. IMO.

“if you ARE disabled, you cannot do that (fulfill job requirements and duties for which you apply and are hired, any job, any work), even with the assistance of aids, helps such as equipment and assistive tools.

Being disabled literally means you cannot fulfill work, cannot sustain work, due to mental and/or physical handicaps, due to physical conditions.

If you CAN fulfill work, any work, complete required work duties, you then establish that you can work and are not disabled, even if you require aids/assistances to fulfill that work.

Just having limitations with one’s as McCain does and having pains as McCain does clearly does not prevent him from engaging in work. He fulfills a job for which he’s been hired, has done so for many years, he’s not disabled.

It appears that it’s compensation, more than anything, for the extreme nature of his suffering during service. But it’s very, very generous compensation, and it’s stretching the reality of the disability pension program to such an extent that it puts the entire program to shame for disallowing far more severely veterans a similar pension, even some who clearly are not employable due to physical and/or mental limitations.

IN McCain’s case, it just can’t be argued that he’s “disabled.” If he WAS or IS disabled, in reality, then he isn’t capable of working even if he’s President, or, for that matter, of fulfilling the job requirements of that Office. He’s either disabled or he’s not. If he is, he’s not capable of work. If he isn’t, then he is capable of work. So, which is it?

President Roosevelt had a “disabling condition” such that he required aids/assistance to fulfill work. But the point is that with these aids, assistance, he could complete the job for which he applied and was hired. That means he wasn’t disabled in the legal sense, but suffered from limitations that socially were considered handicaps. Just being handicapped doesn’t mean you are disabled, however, and if you can be brought to a normal functioning level with the assistnace of aids/equipment/whatever is needed, you are not disabled, because you are then capable of functioning in work.

IN McCain’s case, he was disabled years ago, now he isn’t. Or he’s suffering some other conditions that do disable him that he’s not being public about, and for which he’s being paid this pension or stipend. If he’s mentally or emotionally disabled, then he’s not capable of fulfilling (some) job requirements, and that’s a real problem if he’s elected President.

You have to be able to engage in work and fulfill job requirements for which you apply and are hired if you are not disabled. If you are disabled, you cannot do that.

Being disabled otherwise, in general, is what McCain is, in my view. He has limitations that he can compensate for and he certainly has abundantly proven he’s capable of engaging in work. A person can have disabilities but not be disabled, in other words, and that’s what typifies McCain.

He suffered as a POW, yes, but to receive ongoing disability classification income long after he’s essentially recovered from that experience (and he has, despite the lingering permanent effects caused by that experience) and is no longer “disabled”, again, not since he’s established that he’s capable of engaging in work.

His disability is from the military so I don’t know if their terms for continued disability payments are based upon the same terms I’ve described here (which are the terms that the Social Security Admin. uses, as I’ve described here), but what it appears to me is that McCain was deemed disabled and was years ago, after he returned from Vietnam, he then received medical help for his limitations, overcame his limitations and was no longer disabled yet continued to receive a disability pension accordingly. So the military seems to be paying him as a “once disabled” veteran.

I don’t agree that he’s disabled. He’s proven he can and does engage in work, he’s certainly not limited by his pains and arm movement limitations to such an extent that he can’t stand, sit, walk, climb stairs, think, reason, live his life as normally as most people do (with aches, pains and some physical limitations). Physical limitations, aches and pains do not render one disabled; being disabled means you are prevented from engaging in work due to some physical and/or mental condition, and are or are not expected to recover from those conditions any time soon, if ever.

In McCain’s case, he’s recovered to the point that he is functional in work, can sustain work, is capable of fulfilling work responsibilities, etc. So, just having limitations and pains does not mean he’s disabled. IN fact, I think it’s not entirely honorable that he’s receiving this ongoing disability pension, particularly since there are so many Americans who are far more gravely physically and/or mentally impaired who are disallowed similar disability pensions.

I care about the years of communist brainwashing that McCain went through as a POW, and the socialist bills he has sponsored in the Senate.

Look into the Big Tan Pills marked “Seroquel/400.”

DrSteve on April 23, 2008 at 1:32 PM

LOL.

I care about the years of communist brainwashing that McCain went through as a POW, and the socialist bills he has sponsored in the Senate.

Look into the Big Tan Pills marked “Seroquel/400.”