Hillary: If Iran nukes Israel, I’ll obliterate them

posted at 7:30 pm on April 21, 2008 by Allahpundit

Sure you will.

Clinton further displayed tough talk in an interview airing on Good Morning America Tuesday, ABC News’ Chris Cuomo asked Clinton what she would do if Iran attacked Israel with nuclear weapons.

“I want the Iranians to know that if I’m the president we will attack Iran,” Clinton said. “In the next ten years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.”

I find myself in the very curious position here of being to the left of Hillary Clinton on Iran. Rather than have another debate on whether the U.S. needs to add to Israel’s already impressive deterrent capabilities, let me ask you this: At whom is this very heavy-handed pander directed? Pretty obviously it’s aimed at Israel’s lefty supporters, but are there so many undecideds among them that the net gain from this will offset the net loss among less ardent Israel supporters who’ll be predictably freaked out by it? That is to say, what’s the point of this latest push — starting with the “get out of the kitchen” ad this morning — to frame her as tougher than Obama? The left isn’t exactly crying out for a more muscular foreign policy. All I can guess is that they think Obama’s whining about the debate has legs insofar as it taps into a greater overall wimpiness on his part, which is a fine strategy for the general but sort of … stupid for a Democratic primary. What good does this do her?


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Right. Like the USSR was contained and it ultimately dissolved only after the US invasion.

Wait…

The USSR, for all its faults and for all that it “looked like” it was animated by a religion, was ultimately a state that was supposed to bring the good to people in this life. That’s why the “kitchen debate” was so powerful, as it showed the inability of the USSR to deliver on its promises. Islam, being of an otherworldly nature, promises its adherents rewards in the hereafter for pursuing goals that advance Islam in this life. You can’t have a “kitchen debate” with Islam because they don’t care about god-damn kitchens, they want to die in ways that get them to Allah’s Brothel and Bar.

Comparisons to how the USSR was rolled back don’t work. Plus, you seem to have conveniently forgotten all of the proxy wars that went on during the Cold War.

People are grasping at straws when the clear endgame here is total annihilation, as someone mentioned above. History and logic both point that way.

venividivici on April 22, 2008 at 12:06 AM

We won’t need KBR-Halliburton as if we also shoot congress we can use the oil in Canada and off our shores. That doesn’t mean that we still can’t nuke them just for good measure.

rgranger on April 22, 2008 at 12:14 AM

Hillary calling out the nukes..

I guess Iran isn’t going to stop those centrifuges anytime soon. :\

Chakra Hammer on April 22, 2008 at 12:38 AM

Sounds to me like the best thing she’s said in the past ten years. Send a message straight to Teheran that America is not screwing around here.

And people are jumping on her case over it? I don’t get it.

She gets my vote tomorrow in PA. Then I re-register again as a Republican and vote for McCain in the Fall. He’s way too liberal for my tastes but he just might keep the Dems out of the White House.

Still, for her concise and straightforward stand on defending Israel, great job Hillary.

DaMav on April 22, 2008 at 12:49 AM

People who still do not understand Islam just leave me dumbfounded. You’re not going to buy them a coke and sing in perfect harmony. Never, ever, ever. I think a lot of people do not want to confront countries like Iran because it will take them out of their triple latte comfort world. If we came to the brink of a nuclear war with Iran, you’d find out just how innocent their precious public is.They would either rise up and put an end to their government, or let it happen. Im not bettin on the former.

gator70 on April 22, 2008 at 12:58 AM

She statement is just bluster. Not spoken for its literalism, but more to shore up her hawkish image.

Hillary knows she’s lost the radical leftist/pacifist crowd. She has nothing to gain by looking weak on defense & foreign policy. However, by looking tough on Islamofascism, she might inspire a few more Republicans to vote for her Democratic nomination (operation chaos).

uptight on April 22, 2008 at 1:05 AM

where’s the edit button?

HER statement is just bluster. Not spoken for its literalism, but more to shore up her hawkish image.

Hillary knows she’s lost the radical leftist/pacifist crowd. She has nothing to gain by looking weak on defense & foreign policy. However, by looking tough on Islamofascism, she might inspire a few more Republicans to vote for her Democratic nomination (operation chaos).

uptight on April 22, 2008 at 1:06 AM

venividivici on April 22, 2008 at 12:06 AM

venividivici is correct.

Islam cannot and will not fail on its own terms like Communism did. Islam is not an economic system and the failure of Muslims in the financial sector has not in the past, does not in the present and will never in the future discredit Islam in any way.

Russia lost 20 million men in WWII, a population deficit from which they are still trying to recover. Islam faces no such problem.

This isn’t WWII nor is it the Cold War. There is very little to be gained by trying to understand a contemporary conflict with reference to history alone.

aengus on April 22, 2008 at 1:26 AM

Seems pretty obvious what’s going on here. Obama is as far left as it gets and the far left of the Democratic party are solidly in his corner.

Pennsylvania has a primary where you can vote for any party no matter how you are registered. She is banking on Republicans casting votes for her by sounding tougher on foreign policy than Obama (which would be hard not to do) and get the votes in PA.

Still, her rhetoric seems a bit much. Isn’t it the GOP who are supposedly hellbent on destroying the world?

MannyT-vA on April 22, 2008 at 2:03 AM

The problem with the theory that this was done to encourage Republican crossovers is that Republicans had to re-register as Democrats at least a month ago to vote in the Dem primary.

I would agree however that she seems to be positioning herself to pick up the votes of Dems who are not part of the Moore/MoveOn/Obama ‘activist’ crowd. And on Iran, I think she has laid down the gauntlet for Obama. Is he going to endorse her position, or come up with some kind of mealy mouthed split the difference Kumbaya nonsense?

Either way, I don’t see a downside to her remarks.

DaMav on April 22, 2008 at 2:21 AM

Riiight. She knows about as much about pulling the trigger on a handgun as she knows about launching a missile.

Shes full of crap and, when the time came, she would simply say; ” I said we would be able to, not that I WOULD. “

tx2654 on April 22, 2008 at 3:30 AM

I like the idea of blowing up iran…but before they hit israel

sko17 on April 22, 2008 at 5:07 AM

People are grasping at straws when the clear endgame here is total annihilation, as someone mentioned above. History and logic both point that way.

venividivici on April 22, 2008 at 12:06 AM

Well said. So that leaves us with only one option or cure as it were, Selective Biological Erradication.

Since there is no living with those crazy bastards, you have to go all in.

TheSitRep on April 22, 2008 at 5:46 AM

Ha ha, Rush’s plan now has here pandering to the ditto heads.

TheSitRep on April 22, 2008 at 5:47 AM

The Iranians will simply contribute a cool billion to Hillary’s campaign coffers, and supply Slick Willie with nubile young women…problem solved….then they nuke Israel and we do nothing!

sabbott on April 22, 2008 at 7:42 AM

It’s the Jacksonian response. She’s got primaries in PA, IN, NC and WV, that message will resonate well among large segments of those populations when contrasted with the effete, equivocating, “I’ll have to think about it” response they see from Obama.

Dudley Smith on April 22, 2008 at 7:46 AM

Pantsuit on fire

Wade on April 22, 2008 at 8:03 AM

I didn’t have time to read all the comments so, perhaps someone pointed this out.

If she says she would nuke Iran if they nuke Isreal then she already made a big mistake. She let them get the bomb in the first place. That’s not a good defensive policy. That also tells me she doesn’t plan on doing anything about Iran…period.

boomer on April 22, 2008 at 8:17 AM

Listen, even a blind squirrel finds an acorn…she said the right thing, make a move on Israel and you are dust, period, and their won’t be a move…as Qaddafi (Kadafi or whatever) after Reagan had some of his boys pay him and his family a visit.
I have to agree on this, she said the right thing…if only I was confident she meant it.

right2bright on April 22, 2008 at 8:35 AM

At whom is this very heavy-handed pander directed? Pretty obviously it’s aimed at Israel’s lefty supporters

Huh? Maybe I misunderstand, but isn’t it aimed at Israel’s righty supporters and not members of groups like Peace Now and their Jewish American sympathizers?

The J Street Project supports a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, dialogue with Syria and opposes any use of force against Iran.

Anyhoo, is this tough talk the unveiling of The Hillary Doctrine? Wait until a country is nuked and then show your nuclear muscle?

No sale.

Buy Danish on April 22, 2008 at 8:41 AM

McCain wanted to go and talk to the allies, and see if we couldn’t come up with a bi-partisan approach that would be embraced by our allies, the French. If we could get a UN Resolution, he agreed we might need to condemn them.

Hillary vowed to Nuke the crap out of them. Who’s more conservative now guys?

Hillary the Conservative Candidate. You know she is. When foreign issue crop up she’s going to swagger in there with a six gun on her hip like Josie Wales. She’s not going to take a soft approach for fear of labeling all women as too soft and wimpy to be President. Fear drives Democrats, you know that. Use it.

Snake307 on April 22, 2008 at 8:49 AM

If she says she would nuke Iran if they nuke Isreal then she already made a big mistake. She let them get the bomb in the first place. That’s not a good defensive policy. That also tells me she doesn’t plan on doing anything about Iran…period.

boomer on April 22, 2008 at 8:17 AM

None of the candidates running for President are willing to commit to preemptive action to prevent that. McCain said he wanted to work with the other side to get some bi-partisan support for a UN Resolution asking Pretty Please instead of just Please.

Snake307 on April 22, 2008 at 8:51 AM

This just PROVES how stupid she is. “Let’s wait until Iran attacks, THEN do something about it.” MORON. Remove their nuke ability now.

dogsoldier on April 22, 2008 at 8:56 AM

What good does this do her?

It helps her with the white male vote in PA, many of whom were once Reagan democrats. That’s all that matters to her now: winning big in PA. After that she will switch her rhetoric to whatever the next target population happens to be. Which is a good strategy, because words are soon shoved out of the way and forgotten by regular people in our 24/7 news mileux.

argos on April 22, 2008 at 8:58 AM

panderer in a pantsuit! this won’t sit well with the Move – on crowd. I think she is setting Obama up to be outed as a drug dealing Mooslim terrorist again.

Fortunately 51% of the population will take their chances with a drug dealing mooslim terrorist before they will with another LYING, Chicom enabling Clinton.

Pennsylvania drive a stake through the heart of the beast operation chaos has kept her alive far too long for my liking she will beat McCain like a drum. She will out-lie even John.

dhunter on April 22, 2008 at 9:14 AM

We, along with the UN, should sanction Iran if such an attack occurred. Then place additional sanctions on top of the previous sanctions. Repeat second sentence over and over.

Only that will show them the power of sanctions.

trs on April 22, 2008 at 9:23 AM

Clinton is trying to lock in the anxious jewish vote that can’t get behind Obama and at the same time strike a more hawkish stance relative to Obama’s “talk at any cost” foreign policy.

moxie_neanderthal on April 22, 2008 at 9:38 AM

I view the Dem primary as a microcosm of the general election, with Obama controlling the left wing, Hillary the right, and them fighting over the middle. It’s easy to envision; just draw a line through the left-right continuum, and picture this whole scenario on the left side.

Hillary can’t lose the whack-job left vote – she doesn’t have it. And the pro-Israeli Dems mostly exist on the right side of the left; the whack left is anti-Israel, even the Jewish ones.

She doesn’t lose anything with this.

Jaibones on April 22, 2008 at 9:39 AM

He really did drink the communist koolaid; Hillary only pretends she did, when the polls indicate it would be useful.

Splashman on April 21, 2008 at 7:46 PM

Hillary makes the koolaid. I’m not kidding. She doesn’t buy socalism. She just wants everyone else to buy it so she has the power. End. Of. Story.
I’m sure Sigy would back me up on this.
The strangest thing is, BO really believes this stuff, and thinks everyone else does to, even if they ‘don’t realize’ it yet. It’s so creepy…. really, really creepy.

venividivici on April 21, 2008 at 11:57 PM

Excellent post.

shibumiglass on April 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM

We, along with the UN, should sanction Iran if such an attack occurred. Then place additional sanctions on top of the previous sanctions. Repeat second sentence over and over.

Only that will show them the power of sanctions.

trs on April 22, 2008 at 9:23 AM

I was thinking about sanctions earlier re: something else, and since you brought it up, I have to ask:
Anyone more versed than I, can you tell me if sanctions ever really achieve anything against oppressive governments? My intuition tells me no. Someone will always deal. (China/Mugabe, anyone? among others…)

shibumiglass on April 22, 2008 at 10:27 AM

There is only one primary reason why she or any other presidential candidate or president should have to say this and that is unlike most of our other allies, we refuse to tell the world that we will unequivocally protect the Jews and that is because we have always kowtowed to the Arab and Muslim Oil money and interests.

Hillary if full of BS and her word means nothing because if anything ever did happen should would immediately qualify her statement to mean not what she actually said.

But clearly the real target here are that folks that know that Obama is even more of an Islamist appeaser than Hillary and she just wants to reassure them and resend that message. These are the Reagan Democrats… They support Israel and they believe that we should unequivocally support Israel, as a opposed to folks that have the point of view that Israel should just take our orders as it does now and not get the same benefits as countries like Norway or Saudi who continually supports Islamist terrorists

georgealbert on April 22, 2008 at 10:32 AM

Depends on how you define attack.

shaken on April 22, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Meanwhile…. in the Straights of Taiwan….

OldEnglish on April 22, 2008 at 10:45 AM

AUNTIE HILL would NUKE Iran… Get the F–K out of the way HILL old girl, ISRAEL can take care of itself. Besides, by the time you stop to get UN approval, IRAN will be GOOONE!!!

pueblo1032 on April 22, 2008 at 11:01 AM

If HillyBilly need(s) to use ‘weapons of mass distraction’ as they did in Serbia, you bet she’ll obliterate Iran or whatever country was handy. Bombing countries from high altitudes is a great form of rage therapy.

Christine on April 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Come to think of it…the majority of American troops would desert if HRC is elected. ‘Am I so wrong’ to make this assessment?

Christine on April 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM

I find myself in the very curious position here of being to the left of Hillary Clinton on Iran

The solution to this is to immediately stop typing and grow a pair.

pabarge on April 22, 2008 at 12:43 PM

I don’t know about nukes, but Sen Clinton probably would attack Iran if it attacked Isreal. Democratic regimes are typically just as “war mongering” as Republican administrations.

Weebork on April 22, 2008 at 12:44 PM

What good does this do her?

It gets her the male democratic white vote in PA.

unseen on April 22, 2008 at 12:59 PM

We won’t need KBR-Halliburton as if we also shoot congress we can use the oil in Canada and off our shores. That doesn’t mean that we still can’t nuke them just for good measure.

rgranger on April 22, 2008 at 12:14 AM

Heh. Now you’re talking.

funky chicken on April 22, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Oh, and thanks Cthulu. It’s nice to know you’re on my side. As I’ve read elsewhere that means you eat me last, right?

funky chicken on April 22, 2008 at 1:48 PM

we would be able to totally obliterate them.

…and then six months later I’ll say I was misled.

RobCon on April 22, 2008 at 1:54 PM

I find myself in the very curious position here of being to the left of Hillary Clinton on Iran

The solution to this is to immediately stop typing and grow a pair.

pabarge on April 22, 2008 at 12:43 PM

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I second that !!

georgealbert on April 22, 2008 at 3:10 PM

Maybe she meant:

“if iran nukes israel, I’ll bomb our Christian Serb allies to help the muslims and show them we’re not against islam….just like Bubba did.”

SaintOlaf on April 22, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Obviously there are a lot more Jewish votes out there then just the NY Hassidic community

Hillary, the un-Obama

Obama wants to bomb the establishment, if his friends are any indication

At least Hillary is going to toss them outside the 600 mile limit

My question: is Hillary still joined at the hip to Bill? Bill’s biggest blast was the Yugo factory. I am still not certain about his motives there since he made our pilots fly so high they were almost in orbit

Hillary Rod-Bomber sounds a lot better than Obama-unabomber-Kaczynski

entagor on April 23, 2008 at 4:02 AM

It is for the upcoming general election, hillary clinton knows she can’t out McCain McCain…but she needs to come off as credible at weilding the power of the U.S Military. This is for domestic consumption I don’t think Iran has anything to worry about. How come people don’t get that Politician’s manipulate them constantly in order to get elected? There is some real critical thinking lacking here..when deciphering Clinton speak first ask “Personal Motivation” it is pretty easy to figure out from there out.

Dr Evil on April 23, 2008 at 10:33 AM

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