Chinese send guns and ammo to Mugabe

posted at 9:56 am on April 19, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Talk about bad timing! Just as Thabo Mbeki had begun to attract negative attention around the world for his apologetics for Robert Mugabe after the Zimbabwean dictator had stolen the last presidential election, along come the Chinese to make the situation even worse. A ship full of armaments bound for Mugabe arrived in Durban and set off a series of protests that highlighted Mbeki’s decision to run interference for Mugabe:

A Chinese ship loaded with armaments for Zimbabwe steamed into the port of Durban this week and set off a political firefight, putting newfound pressure on South Africa — and now China — to reduce support for Zimbabwe’s government as it cracks down on its rivals after a disputed election.

Dock workers at the port, backed by South Africa’s powerful unions, refused to unload the ammunition and weapons on Friday, vowing protests and threatening violence if the government tried to do it without them.

Meanwhile, the Anglican archbishop of the province appealed to South Africa’s High Court to bar transporting the arms across South Africa, arguing that they were likely to be used to repress Zimbabweans. The court agreed, and by late Friday the ship had pulled up anchor and set sail.

The arms shipment was ordered from China before the elections, but its arrival amid Zimbabwe’s political crisis illuminated deep fissures within South Africa over how to respond, and brought new scrutiny on China at a time when its human rights record is already under fire for suppressing protesters in Tibet and supplying arms to the government of Sudan.

Wherever peoples are oppressed these days, two constants appear. One is the inevitable chorus of apologists with ready excuses for the oppressors, blaming colonialism from a century ago or Crusades from a millenium past. The other is the Chinese government.

In Iran, the Chinese refuse to meaningfully support the sanctions regime intended on both ending nuclear proliferation and the reign of the mullahcracy. In Sudan, Beijing props up the government that conducts genocides against its own people and allied with Arab Janjaweeds to conduct a parallel Islamic ethnic cleansing. They have kept Kim Jong-Il in power for decades while North Koreans starve to death. Now they want to prop up Robert Mugabe while Zimbabwe melts from a self-sufficient nation to a failed state of starving masses.

Why do the Chinese seem so insistent on subsidizing oppression? It’s not just oil. That could certainly be the reason in Iran and Sudan, but not in North Korea or Zimbabwe. Rather, it seems to be a deliberate policy to support regimes that murder, starve, and oppress people. There is a word for that — evil.

After this latest proof of Chinese policy, the International Olympic Committee has even more reason to hide their heads in shame this summer when they supply Beijing with its propaganda platform.

Update: The ship, An Yue Jiang, has headed for Angola to offload its cargo instead.  The Chinese do not easily give up.


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Brought to you by the folks that manufacture just about everything we use in this country. It is beyond the scope of any answer other than that we’re a nation of idiots. What a laugh the Communist Chinese get that the capitalists whine and moan about their intervention to destabilize Africa as they make profits making everything from lead paint covered baby toy to arms for tyrants.

Hening on April 19, 2008 at 10:07 AM

Alrighty. I am being heavily swayed to the side of those who want the opening ceremonies boycotted. If I were a participating athlete, I’d seriously be considering not going at all.

Connie on April 19, 2008 at 10:09 AM

And their lead bullets are probably the only thing that don’t have lead in them.

Chicom pirates, pandered to by pimps everywhere.

profitsbeard on April 19, 2008 at 10:12 AM

China needs a new PR guy, air pollution and the Olympics, Tibet and now this. They keep this up and communism is going to get a bad name.

lowandslow on April 19, 2008 at 10:19 AM

After tacitly admitting that communism doesn’t work, the Chicom government has four main goals now: 1) remain in power (partly by focusing the people back to taking back Taiwan) 2) make money 3) secure allies against threats (real and perceived) 4)spread its influence around the world (doing their best in Africa). They are essentially what that CNN guy said they are, but not all Chicoms are evil. Some are just as clueless about their activities as the populace is.

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 10:20 AM

I agree its an evil country, but amoral is probably more appropriate — they lack any moral characteristics when it comes to the ways they deal with other nations.

China is also up to their ears in oppressing Taiwan, Hong Kong , and Tibet…they truly are a disgraceful country run by a gang of thugs who deserve every repudiation possible.

What’s pathetic is that people scream up to their ears about Iraq and Afghanistan, two peoples who were under monstrous regimes and are now free…where are the leftist tears for North Koreans? The left is very much like China — they save all their anger for the US…the only country in the world who gives others an opportunity for freedom.

Richard Romano on April 19, 2008 at 10:35 AM

Smart. Real smart. Made themselves indespensible to western business, untouchable militarily, and fatter then Rosie after Thanksgiving. They own us. It is the Opium Wars in reverse. They supply, we buy. They quit selling, western societies go into the DTs.

We took ol’ Mother Russia down with economics. China saw what happened and is now using our own weapon to stick us in the gut. Like I said, smart.

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 10:37 AM

I agree. China learned their lessons well.

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 10:37 AM

I was under the impression that they needed us as much as we needed them. I don’t think its as one-sided as you say. Maybe I’m mistaken.

Grayson on April 19, 2008 at 10:46 AM

While going through the cold war years, I had already come to the realization that China was the real enemy of the West. That regime, since 1949, has had one international policy, with all others serving that end. That policy is world domination, by economic means if possible, or militarily if necessary. It has little to do with Marxism as such, rather a belief in their ancestral superiority, coupled with a mindset that is determined to second to none.

By interfering in the internal affairs of unstable regimes, they help to keep the West occupied in using their resources to support the suffering people of those regimes, thereby restricting the growth in the wealth of the West. The resultant loss of life is of no concern to the Chinese, as they have a long history of placing no value on human life in general.

Consider this, if the West had been free to seek its own fortunes since 1946, without having to support many unfortunates, how rich would it be now?

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 10:47 AM

Grayson on April 19, 2008 at 10:46 AM

They are also dependant on us, at this point. But as their economy booms, they become more and more in the driver’s seat. Also, they believe that we don’t have the huevos to stop doing business with them. Besides that, it is also one of the reasons they are so involved in Africa–insurance.

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 10:50 AM

The South African dock worker unions refused to offload the cargo.

lexhamfox on April 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Grayson on April 19, 2008 at 10:46 AM

True, but we have sure given them a nest egg to fall back on if everything goes south. Sorta like unemployment benefits to get them through the rough spots. Also, we are not the only addict. The EU and the third world depends on them too.

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 10:55 AM

Another point about China’s new manufacturing capability. In WWII we ramped up so quickly because civilian manufacturing was quickly turned over to military manufacturing.

Those plants in China making circuit boards for your i-Phones and HDTVs can just as easily be making circuit boards for ICBMs or EWACS assets.

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 10:59 AM

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 11:00 AM

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 10:37

AM

Excellent point. There is no easy way out of this. We are highly dependent on those products, so we can’t cut them off overnight…and we know they are not going to be made in America ever again. It would be great if India could be brought up to speed and take over more of that role of producing all our cheap stuff. They are a rival for Chinese power on the continent, and they have the most favorable opinion of America of any other country. I know I’ve stopped complaining when talk to an Indian at ech support.

Nosferightu on April 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM

It’s time we all boycott the games! I plan to not watch and I’m also going to do my level best to stop buying anything made in China, period!

sabbott on April 19, 2008 at 11:04 AM

Since the Chinese manufacturing everything else these day, when is Chomsky going to accuse them of Manufacturing Consent?

thuja on April 19, 2008 at 11:05 AM

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 10:47 AM

I agree that their desire to be number one is derived from racial identity more than from Marxism. That is the scariest thing about the Chinese (or Koreans, or Japanese). They consider themselves Chinese no matter what, and no matter where they live. They will be loyal to their country (or their people, which in their mind is the same thing) no matter what.

I don’t agree that they will try to be the new superpower using an offensive military strategy. Historically, they have not been expansionist.

When they were at the height of their power during the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), they had the capability to sail around the world with their navy, however after reaching Africa, they abandoned further exporation because they were only interested in commerce and trade routes. They will be strong, arrogant, and scary. They still feel the sting of foreign powers taking advantage of them and they will not allow it again, but I don’t see them making a first strike on lands that they do not consider their own.

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 11:24 AM

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 11:24 AM

I agree with you in regard to the ancient Chinese Dynasties, but they were a different breed of ruler. They valued education, wisdom, science, arts etc. While still being cruel in nature, they were indeed more concerned with keeping order within their own boundaries, hence the Great Wall – to keep barbarians out and order within.

But, the peasant mob which slaughtered their way into power under Mao are a different breed again. Slowly but surely, those who obtained power after Mao, came to believe in a new destiny of expansion – by proxy at first (still current), and ever more directly as their wealth grows. As I mentioned, they would like to defeat us by way of an economic war of attrition, but since we will jack up at some point, war is not a matter of if.

For the sake of my grandchildren, I hope I’m full of it, but I fear not.

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 11:43 AM

The South African dock worker unions refused to offload the cargo.

lexhamfox on April 19, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Sure did. Good for them.

DrSteve on April 19, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Dealing with the Chinese has been like dealing with the devil. I understand outsourcing. But, making profits while strengthening a murderous enemy is just plain wrong. I always knew this was wrong. The Chinese are not our friends. They are not the friends of any free people.

JellyToast on April 19, 2008 at 11:54 AM

I beginning to believe we’ve made a huge mistake here: The argument that trading with China would both develop a middle class that would force political and economic liberalization and that the extensive economic ties with them limit their actions has been proven (largely) wrong so far.

Instead of limiting Chinese actions, we’ve become dependent on that country for cheap goods and financing of a large part of our debt. And, in turn, it’s limited our ability to pressure them to help us out (Darfur, Iran).

I imagine over time – a long time – that political liberalization will follow economic. But in the long run, as Keynes said, we’re all dead.

SteveMG on April 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 11:43 AM

You are very possibly correct. I also hope not though. I still believe that we can yet turn them into friendly competitors, if not friends.

I don’t think we can simply dismiss them as peasant thugs and write them off as eternal enemies. The British once thought of us as such (maybe they still think we are peasants), and now we are strong allies. As Sun Zi says in The Art of War, one should “understand his enemy,” and he also said “the greatest victories are won without fighting.”

The Chinese (government, I mean) post-Mao have improved on all fronts, albeit not so quickly in terms of human rights.

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 12:03 PM

SteveMG on April 19, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Great post. Perfect example of ‘careful what you wish for’.

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 12:14 PM

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Agreed, they have improved – where it has been expedient. However, granting human rights means giving up some of the rights/powers of the ruling elite – that they won’t do without a fight.

Your second quote from Sun Zi is the one that bothers me the most, since all out war would not achieve their aims, beyond putting us all back into the dark ages, and they are not stupid. But, if taking the West out is what it takes, they, much more so than the Soviets, are quite capable of trying it.

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Agreed. I think they are using that strategy to great effect. My point in using that quote was to make the case that we, if we are smart, can use it to our advantage, and be the victors in the end. It is easy for us to just say, “they are bad, let’s write them off, or wipe them out,” but I think that is the wrong-headed approach. The Reagan was smart enough to win the Cold War without firing a shot (not-directly anyway), and I think it will take brains, and not only brawn to face the threat that Beijing poses.

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 12:33 PM

But, if taking the West out is what it takes, they, much more so than the Soviets, are quite capable of trying it.

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM

The chinese are smart. Why destroy us and the massive amount of income they derive from us? They’ll be content to be the economical vampires they are, feeding off our need for cheap goods.

And they’ll use that economic power to keep us in check while they supply the worst regimes with the weapons they need to completely oppress and control their people. It’s the only way they see to make money from regions of the world still relatively undeveloped.

Short sighted, imho, because if they would encourage consumerism in those same nations, they’d wind up making a lot more money in the long run, and also increase their power and control over said regions.

That part of things seems uncharacteristic of the normally long-view nature of the chinese. Guess they’ve still got a lot to learn about capitalism.

techno_barbarian on April 19, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Wherever peoples are oppressed these days, two constants appear. One is the inevitable chorus of apologists with ready excuses for the oppressors, blaming colonialism from a century ago or Crusades from a millenium past. The other is the Chinese government.

Don’t forget number three: Jimmy the C to kiss them….

The ship, An Yue Jiang, has headed for Angola to offload its cargo instead.

Sink it.

ScottG on April 19, 2008 at 12:38 PM

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 12:33 PM

If we could do as you suggest, it would be the best solution all round. However, in order to defeat them in such a manner we first have to silence our own Left, who seem determined to dumb us all down to the point where we are incapable of being masters of our own destiny. They see nothing wrong with Socialism/Marxism, so would not lift a finger to help us contain China – and China knows it. (Clintons come to mind).

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 12:45 PM

It isn’t about China expanding, it is about China controlling. China hasn’t fought a war of expansion in modern history (exclude Tibet). As SteveMG stated in his post, we expected to knock the warlord society on it’s collective butt. Instead we built them palaces and gave them the means to keep the construction crews busy. Why go thru the hassle of taking when all you have to do is tell? We will let them get away with anything, as long as the golden parachutes keep falling from the sky.

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 12:53 PM

techno_barbarian on April 19, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Granted that their prime directive is to be number one, they will do whatever it takes. Now they are trying the economic method, to wear us down while increasing their own ability to withstand adversity. But when resources become scarce, do you really think that they will go quietly into the sunset?

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 12:53 PM

You’re right, they haven’t tried to expand yet, they have not had the means. But that is fast changing, thanks in part to Clinton.

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 1:06 PM

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 12:45 PM

I agree with what you said. In fact, if you look at modern Chinese history, you can see a lot of similarities to our Left. I view the more radical left in the US as the imitators of what came in China (perhaps it was the same in Russia, I don’t know that). The Chicoms were effective in convincing intellectuals, thereby gaining their writing and story-telling ability; they did a great job of writing plays, movies, and stories that spoke to the common man and convinced them of the beauty of communism; and they always turned themselves into the victims of oppression in the eyes of the public (sometimes they were, but often it was perception), turning their opponents into cruel and heartless people only interested in preserving the rich peoples’ wealth. Sound familiar?

Back on the topic, in my view victory for us does not mean the defeat of the Chinese. I think we can and should work on the relationship. I admire the Chinese people greatly, and also believe would make fine allies. I don’t see them embracing American style democracy, but I don’t think that is necessary for them. What works in America doesn’t always work everywhere else (see Palestine). I don’t even think they necessarily need to dump communist party rule. I think they will always call themselve communist, but in practice they may end up something different. I also don’t see them re-embracing communism. The official line in China is that Mao was 70% right and 30% wrong. I think most Chinese people know, however, that it was more like 30% right and 70% wrong. Nobody wants to go back to that.

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 1:08 PM

This is why Clancy always makes them the bad guys. Life imitating art and all that.

Grayson on April 19, 2008 at 1:13 PM

The fall of the Soviets was over twenty years ago, enough time to forget and enough time for a new generation to grow up without a pervasive reason to understand that communism=evil.

Speakup on April 19, 2008 at 1:15 PM

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Yes, the Chinese people would make good allies, but first they have to rid themselves of their overlords. There are two Chinas, the people, and the elite. We only deal with the latter, and therein lies the problem.

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM

My parents had a “Made in the USA” GE frige that lasted for 34 years. When they got rid of it-it was still working. I had a clock radio that lasted 27 years. Most Chinese made stuff lasts for 6-9 months before it breaks or malfunctions. My niece was hospitalized from their Aqua dot toys.

Little Boomer on April 19, 2008 at 1:33 PM

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Yes. Therein lies the problem. It seems you understand the situation quite well. Knowing how nationalistic the Chinese are, I think we should be cautious not to make enemies of the people there. Change will not come from the outside in, but rather from the inside out. If we start throwing our weight around foolishly, we will only solidify the Communist Party’s positions. The Chinese people have always seen their government as a father figure, and they still do. What we see ourselves as righteously angry, they see us as a bully, picking on the people. The victim card is played all the time here.

I’m not saying we can be strong with them, but I think there are better ways of doing it than coming out in the press making meaningless statements, or boycotting the opening ceremonies. I think we can sit down with their government with frank and open language. If we simply make a loud noise but carry no stick, who do we expect to listen? We can be far more effective from a friendly, but firm position, backed up with economic muscle. For example, if their products do not meet our standards of safety, we end all business with those fields which violate our standards–that means holding American businesses accountable too. Money talks, especially in China.

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 1:34 PM

I’m not saying we can can’t be strong with them

Sorry, misprint.

p40tiger on April 19, 2008 at 1:36 PM

The 2012 Olympics in Tehran are going to be great!

Riposte on April 19, 2008 at 1:45 PM

“s headed for Angola to offload its cargo instead”

Since Zimbabwe is landlocked, Angola, being one of Mugabe’s only allies in Africa, would be the logical offloading point for arms destined to Zimbabwe. You might note that Mugabe’s “royal guard” (for lack of a better term) are Angolan special operations forces.

crosspatch on April 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM

The U.N., the EU, the Pope, international human rights groups condemning this in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…not.

Entelechy on April 19, 2008 at 2:29 PM

Good Lord look at the epsisode of the Chinese jet-fighter
playing Russian Roulette with the United States recon.
plane over international waters,just look how they treated
that one!

As weeks went by,after the 100th draft of an opology that
yes your fighter almost killed the crew of the US Military
plane!

Okay,no where was I ,oh ya and their whinning about negative
press coverage of the Olympics,and now they got their hands
caught in the fortune cookie jar gun running!

canopfor on April 19, 2008 at 2:40 PM

The USA’s Primary Trading Partner.

Egfrow on April 19, 2008 at 2:44 PM

There are two Chinas, the people, and the elite. We only deal with the latter, and therein lies the problem.

OldEnglish

Yes, where are our modern day Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson, to stir the pot of Revolution as they did in France?

Egfrow on April 19, 2008 at 2:47 PM

sabbott on April 19, 2008 at 11:04 AM

I would suggest just becoming aware of what is made in China. It would pretty much be impossible to boycott everything. As a musician, I looked into what is being manufactured in China in terms of guitars and drums, and almost every company has moved their manufacturing there (Fender is an exception and is manufacturing in Mexico, if you can believe that). If you use any electronics it’s all manufactured in China now.

We are riding the tiger based on greed.

Hening on April 19, 2008 at 3:39 PM

We are riding the tiger based on greed.

Hening on April 19, 2008 at 3:39 PM

And as regards electronic components, we ride that tiger based on necessity. That’s probably one of the most worrying things to me about China. We need our own manufacturing facilities built up here in America. We extremely vulnerable as long as we have such a high degree of dependency.

techno_barbarian on April 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM

crosspatch on April 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM

What should happen is a couple of bombs on the hull of the ship. It goes down, before offloading – helps Zimbabwe, makes China look bad.

“To bad. So sad. Must have been an accident on board.” Thank you SEALs

talking_mouse on April 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM

That ship needs to mysteriously sink on its way to wherever. Washington Times has it going to Mozambique this morning.

burt on April 19, 2008 at 4:38 PM

That ship needs to mysteriously sink on its way to wherever. Washington Times has it going to Mozambique this morning.

burt on April 19, 2008 at 4:38 PM

That’s too obvious but I heard that there might be some Barbary coast pirates hijacking and stealing cargo from merchant ships in the area. The Islamists are always robing and stealing ships. , wink wink.

Egfrow on April 19, 2008 at 5:04 PM

The Summer Olympics are the beginning of the end for the Chicoms. You heard it here first.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 19, 2008 at 5:57 PM

I have said here many times that the problems with Zimbabwe will be resolved faster if many of these Western countries butted out and let Africans handle it.

This is a good BBC article that kind of explains why i feel this was.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7349166.stm

There is a reason Mugabe hates the British so much, there is also a reason that many of these countries in the SADC are taking their time with this whole issue. Too much pressure from the West will eventually result in a civil war…as this story shows, but the British don’t want to hear it.

Chudi on April 19, 2008 at 6:53 PM

Chudi on April 19, 2008 at 6:53 PM

Mugabe should be dealt with the barrel of a gun, regardless of who does it. Also, after his death his body should be drawn and quartered. Then each limb should be individually tortured. The arms should be systematically dipped repeatedly in acid and the legs should be sprayed with a flamethrower over and over. The torso should be impaled with rusty wheat thresher until you could throw a basketball through it. Then with the head it should be hoisted off of Kilimanjaro into a pack of wild Hyenas.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 19, 2008 at 7:02 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 19, 2008 at 7:02 PM

Why do I get the feeling that you don’t like Mugabe? :)

OldEnglish on April 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Limerick on April 19, 2008 at 10:37 AM

hit the nail square on the head.

AZ_Redneck on April 19, 2008 at 8:54 PM

That’s it. I was wavering a little because I really enjoy watching some of the Olympic events and rooting for the USA. But I’ve had it up to the top of my head with the genocidal communist muck-raking murder enabling country of China, and especially with the Chinese people who seem to feel that China is somehow just a crackerjack okey-dokey wonderful country.

I’m boycotting the Olympics due to China hosting them. I’m boycotting any and all merchandise I know is made in China (that’s could be a tough one). I refuse to watch the Olympics, I refuse to purchase any Olympics memorabilia and/or merchandise, and I refuse to patronize any and ALL of the advertizers during the Olympics.

And I will strongly urge everyone I know, and I urge everyone else in the free world, to do the same.

SilverStar830 on April 19, 2008 at 9:02 PM

After Mugabe’s head reaches the Hyenas, it should be summarily eaten and stripped of every particle of flesh. Then the skull should be sledgehammered into rock size pieces. Those pieces should be put into a pile in the middle of a field. Then that pile should be pinpointed by a B-52 and hit with a MOAB. That field should be then salted, dug up, shipped to another part of the country, then rebombed.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 19, 2008 at 9:32 PM

With apologies to the Gipper, the Soviet Union Red China is the focus of evil in the modern world.

jgapinoy on April 19, 2008 at 10:55 PM

There are even reports that manholes in Britain have been disappearing to feed the monstrous appetite for scrap steel in the other side of the world.

China is spending 35 times as much on crude oil as it did eight years ago, and 23 times as much on copper.

As it builds gleaming skyscrapers on its fields, China alone consumes half the world’s cement and a third of its steel.

What is happening is so extraordinary that economists have had to invent a new word for it – this is not an economic cycle, but a supercycle, a shift in the world economy of historic proportions.

Entelechy on April 19, 2008 at 11:52 PM

I’m also going to do my level best to stop buying anything made in China, period!

sabbott on April 19, 2008 at 11:04 AM

I’ve been doing that for a while now. It can be a challenge, and you will spend a whole lot more for most of the stuff you buy. I have found quite a bit of good and not overpriced cookware that is made in Italy or Spain. Most of the Calphalon cookware I’ve seen lately (used to all be made in Ohio) was from China. To buy an iron that’s not made in China you can choose from Rowenta (German) or Oreck (USA).

There’s a backpack company up in Minnesota that makes travel bags and kiddie book bags…also not cheap.

You will spend a lot more time shopping in addition to more money. But I find it’s worth it. I’m happy to help you if you like.

funky chicken on April 20, 2008 at 12:01 PM

A study of dictatorship, Robert Mugabe is:

THE KNIFE

Genesis (Banks/Gabriel/Phillips/Rutherford/Mayhew)

For Those that Trespass against us

Tell me my life is about to begin
Tell me that I am a hero,
Promise me all of your violent dreams
Light up your body with anger.
Now, in this ugly world
it is time to destroy all this evil.
Now, when I give the word
get ready to fight for your freedom
Now -

Stand up and fight, for you know we are right
We must strike at the lies
That have spread like disease through our minds.
Soon we’ll have power, every soldier will rest
And we’ll spread out our kindness
To all who our love now deserve.
Some of you are going to die -
Martyrs of course to the freedom that I shall provide.

I’ll give you the names of those you must kill,
All must die with their children.
Carry their heads to the palace of old,
Hang them high, let the blood flow.
Now, in this ugly world
break all the chains around us,
Now, the crusade has begun
give us a land fit for heroes,
Now -

Stand up and fight, for you know we are right
We must strike at the lies
That have spread like disease through our minds.
Soon we’ll have power, every soldier will rest
And we’ll spread out our kindness
To all who our love now deserve.
Some of you are going to die -
Martyrs of course to the freedom that I shall provide.

We are only wanting freedom
We are only wanting freedom
We are only wanting freedom
We are only wanting freedom (“Freedom, freedom, freedom, freedom…”)
We are only wanting freedom (“Things are getting out of control here today”)
We are only wanting freedom (“OK men – fire over their heads!”)
We are only wanting freedom

— WE HAVE WON —

Some of you are going to die,
Martyrs of course to the freedom that I shall provide.

silverfox on April 21, 2008 at 5:10 AM

P.S.

Sad to say that some at DKos and HuffPost would use this very song to describe President Bush.
But that is why they’re crazy and we’re not.

silverfox on April 21, 2008 at 5:13 AM

With the Olympics come exposure. To lose face is not their game, it means losing control. I fear yellow fevr epidemic soon.

Monas on April 21, 2008 at 10:23 AM