Stage two of rEVOLution begins: Paulnuts forming own gated communities
posted at 4:55 pm on April 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
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David Freddoso spreads the good word. How curious that their plan for the libertarian paradise calls for a quasi-communal organization via co-ops. And what’s with the gates? If the point is to build your very own Manson Family ranch in the middle of nowhere, there shouldn’t be much worry about keeping strangers out. Except, I guess, for the New World Order shock troops Alex Jones keeps warning us about.
And, of course, minorities.
The process is forming a co-op of people buying shares in the community and these people would be granted land use at a minimum of 1 acre per share, for as long as they homesteaded the land. The community would be privately held by the co-op to establish private property for the general community thus preserving the community is 100% freedom and liberty lovers. The community votes on all community efforts, such as utilities etc. However no one is forced to consume these utilities and or pay for them, AKA people can be off grid on their share of land. This is in line with the ideals that you’re free to live your life the way you want and not be forced to do or pay for other people’s life styles you may not agree with.
These communities are not for the faint at heard they will start as undeveloped land in non city locals, as this is the way to secure large tracts of land needed for these efforts.
Serious question: What’s the point? What are they planning or hoping to do in utopia that they couldn’t do simply by buying their own houses in any small town (or big town)? Are zoning laws really so oppressive to the Paulnut heart that they have to start their own tent city in the sticks to get away from them? Or is this less about property restrictions than about, ahem, being with your “own kind”?
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They should’ve been put in “gated communities” a long time ago.
(come on, that was obvious!)
lorien1973 on April 18, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Well, at least we know they’ll be blimp-accessible.
ReubenJCogburn on April 18, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Galt’s Gulch!
But without the philosophy, principles, or integrity!
emailnuevo on April 18, 2008 at 4:59 PM
As long as this keeps them from littering my town with over zealous rEVOL signs. (Which it probably won’t.)
Yoshi on April 18, 2008 at 5:00 PM
The sad thing is that this isn’t at all surprising.
MarkoMancuso on April 18, 2008 at 5:00 PM
WTF?
Agrippa2k on April 18, 2008 at 5:01 PM
I like how freedom and liberty, to paul-nuts, means keeping people out (or in, I suppose, depends on how you look at it)
I got a million of these!
lorien1973 on April 18, 2008 at 5:01 PM
How on God’s green earth did Ron Paul win his GOP primary this year? Even Atlanta democrats knew to kick crazy Cynthia McKinney to the curb.
funky chicken on April 18, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Sounds like a neverending Burning Man…
rw on April 18, 2008 at 5:03 PM
and if Zoning laws and local and state regulations are the real freedom oppressors that actual control us more than the Feds…then why are they so oppossed with national politics.
jp on April 18, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Only until someone decides that other people can’t use his airspace anymore.
pedestrian on April 18, 2008 at 5:03 PM
In Israel, they call it “Kibbutz.”
But with a slightly different concept and purpose.
Indy Conservative on April 18, 2008 at 5:04 PM
As Ace wrote, “We have those already. They’re called asylums.”.
amerpundit on April 18, 2008 at 5:04 PM
P.S.
Am I the only one who burst out laughing at this quote? Makes me think of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
And:
I think it’s a sort-of fantasy, their belief that the United States is broken and, until it gets sorted out, they need a place where they can live the way Jefferson wanted, in an almost anarchocapitalist little enclave.
Meanwhile, Western civilization is desperately fighting for its life, and there’s no “tracts of land” that will be impregnable to the sword of the Prophet without the big, bad U.S. to protect you. But you enjoy your tracts of land.
emailnuevo on April 18, 2008 at 5:04 PM
God help us.
WisCon on April 18, 2008 at 5:06 PM
From these pockets of liberty, peace will flow through out the land. That, and a lot of virgins.
lorien1973 on April 18, 2008 at 5:08 PM
enclave……compound………….tomato…….tomatoe.
omnipotent on April 18, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Sorta like those
‘islamobergs’ that have been poppin’ up in the U.S.
(Which it probably won’t.) – Yoshi
Mori?
Tony737 on April 18, 2008 at 5:08 PM
So, will this be a lefty style hippie commune or a nutty militia compound?
doubleplusundead on April 18, 2008 at 5:09 PM
LOL.
I wouldn’t be too surprised to find out in a few years that the Police need to raid these “gates communities” for some reason or another …
wise_man on April 18, 2008 at 5:11 PM
I read lefty hippy to me. The community owns the property? Not you? Community votes on matters pertaining to individuals? Eh? Far right has met far left.
lorien1973 on April 18, 2008 at 5:12 PM
The prefer to be Called “Libertarians,” and to answer your question – yes.
wise_man on April 18, 2008 at 5:12 PM
A nutty hippie compound. I hope for their sakes Janet Reno doesn’t make a comeback.
steveegg on April 18, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Their little utopia is going to be a lot like Kid Nation. Lots of bickering, infighting, and nothing getting accomplished. They are truly insane.
The reason cities make everyone get on the city electric, water, and sewer is to recover the cost of installing those services. If they ran a sewer line to one tract in the back of utopia, bypassing 100 Paulnuts who did not want to be on the “grid”, they would never recover the cost of installation.
txsurveyor on April 18, 2008 at 5:15 PM
I have to admit that I have always taken a very dismissive view of Ron Paul’s campaign and his supporters. However I respect serious Libertarians and I like a lot of the stuff that comes out of the CATO Institute, the writings of Ayn Rand, even some of the stuff from Reason Magazine. I’m curious what someone like John Stossel thinks about the Ronulans. They don’t seem like actual libertarians to me.
D0WNT0WN on April 18, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Next thing you know, Ron Paul will be the spiritual leader of these communities, making them the next Branch Davidian compound.
ViperPilot on April 18, 2008 at 5:16 PM
How much gold will it cost to live there?
Jim Treacher on April 18, 2008 at 5:17 PM
For the anarcho-capitalist the answer is totally “yes.” Isolation also keeps the unbelievers away from “infecting” anyone.
seanhackbarth on April 18, 2008 at 5:17 PM
The real question is, will they be paying taxes or recieving gubmit funding?
VolMagic on April 18, 2008 at 5:18 PM
And when the people come to the communities, they get a nifty white jacket with long sleeves.
Torch on April 18, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Cuz they aren’t. They never were. Why Reason and other “influencial” libertarian mags didn’t point this out was stunning.
lorien1973 on April 18, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Wait until they start fighting over gold vs. a commodity basket as currency. Gold bars and wheat bushels will be flying.
seanhackbarth on April 18, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Heh. Just wait for it to all fall apart. Problem is, folded into these political movements full of mostly harmless nuts are some harmful nuts, and various folks with various wacko hangups.
a “council” is still a government, and any society of people are going to have some sort of norms, and with this crowd, there’s nothing some folks would like better than to violate norms.
I know these guys.
Sekhmet on April 18, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Paul’s new book “Revolution: A Manifesto” comes out April 30.
CP on April 18, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Eh…..the IRS will seize the properties soon. No taxes filed (for years). They will be gated communities of East Coast libs looking for a bargin. Justice.
Limerick on April 18, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Ok…I’m NOT GOING TO BE PRESIDENT!! I might as well come clean and really let the world know how COMPLETELY INSANE me and my RETARDED followers are….
Can any one say ‘Jones Town’???
Whack-Bag…Wacko!!!
Scary stuff…
BigWyo on April 18, 2008 at 5:29 PM
CP,
I thought the Constitution was their Manifesto?
Just like the Paulbots – living in an interdependent co-op is the same as ‘rugged individualsim’.
Heh.
catmman on April 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM
How many years will it be before they get raided and their kids carted off for DNA testing. Wooo, this takes your breath away. Guess the secret is more KoolAid.
24K lady on April 18, 2008 at 5:40 PM
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I believe you nailed it.
Think_b4_speaking on April 18, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Why am I thinking of the Rev. Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite?
Tazz 55 on April 18, 2008 at 5:52 PM
I’ll pay to see that (cold hard cash only).
steveegg on April 18, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Reminds me of the Spongebob episode where Squidward moves into the Tentacle Acres gated community…
jasnell on April 18, 2008 at 6:02 PM
This crowd is the probably the same bunch behind the floating city (Atlantis project) and the freedoms ship. Nothing like libertarian vagabonds who won’t fight for their freedom, just shut the world out and stick their fingers in their ears.
Haunchie on April 18, 2008 at 6:08 PM
This is a fascinating incite into the beginning of cult communities.
And btw, David Freddoso, an otherwise good reporter, has more than a few screws loose over Ron Paul. It’s sad, actually.
Nessuno on April 18, 2008 at 6:16 PM
When do they drink that specially prepared cocktail? If they don’t drink the cocktail, their souls can’t be detached from their NWO-controlled bodies and they’ll never reach the Paulville mothership (currently orbiting around the 4th moon of Mianus)
uptight on April 18, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Honestly…these truther types really and truly believe that there will someday soon be a police-state, and they’ll all be rounded up and put into FEMA concentration camps, which apparently are all ready to go at a moments notice.
Thus, the gates. And protection in numbers.
JetBoy on April 18, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Cheap pot?
(Not that the marijuana laws shouldn’t be repealed.)
thuja on April 18, 2008 at 6:48 PM
These people are a few fries short of a happy meal, for sure!
Saw a guy pull into the supermarket last week, pick up truck with topper and “Ron Paul” stickers everywhere. He gets out of the truck in a security guard uniform and I notice he has a shotgun mounted in one of those verticle stands like the police use. Scary.
I’m a shooter and would never leave my gun exposed like that.
FloridaBill on April 18, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Hopefully these tracts of land are far enough out on the boonies that broadband access will be difficult to come by… (The Internet heaves a big sigh of relief)
innominatus on April 18, 2008 at 7:05 PM
I predict in a couple of years the Paulnuts will move this community underwater, name it Rapture, and begin hunting each other for DNA and plasmids.
Doctor Zero on April 18, 2008 at 7:34 PM
So does this mean that the official term for Ron Paul followers has changed from “the Ronulans” to “the Paulnuts”? I just want to make sure I’ve got the terminology for these, um, folks… right.
Jill1066 on April 18, 2008 at 8:03 PM
I know just one couple. Nuts are indignant, including coconuts.
They sent a 3-pages long plea at Christmas, to donate, to join, and why. I’m still astonished.
Wouldn’t mind if they moved there, even though they’re not close now.
Entelechy on April 18, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Forgot to mention that most of their complaints dealt with how doctors and politicians lie to us about all sorts of illnesses, symptoms, treatment, maltreatment…it was all conspiratorial, all 3 pages of it.
Entelechy on April 18, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Think there’ll need to be a vote on concealed carry?
thirtypundit on April 18, 2008 at 8:29 PM
Well there is already a community about individualism and personal freedom, but it is just one week a year out in the Black Rock Desert, its “Burning Man”
I dont think any Paul-tard community will ever be as fun as that.
firepilot on April 18, 2008 at 8:43 PM
So this community is called your either.
with us
or against us!
And no it has nothing to do with Bush!
canopfor on April 18, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Umm,whats the point:
There seems to be a lot of good intentioned wackos
that wanted a Utopian paradise!
The episode in Texas is a living example that it’s
not going accordingly to plan!
And the Utopian wacko’s maybe just a tad shy of Heavens
gate.So rather than wait for Utopia,they will biuld their
own paradise!
And Iran is only a few steps short of bring Utopia to the
World whether we want it or not!Ummm!
canopfor on April 18, 2008 at 9:18 PM
You can call them “Paulnuts”, “Ronulans”, “Paultards”, “raging lunatics”, “delusional crapweasels”, it’s all good. All that matters is that you mock them mercilessly, as they deserve.
ReubenJCogburn on April 18, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Sounds like communism to me.
Johan Klaus on April 18, 2008 at 10:40 PM
What a bunch of groupthink. Amazing. It’s like lemmings.
fossten on April 18, 2008 at 10:50 PM
I don’t get it. There are obvious political benefits to congregating a bunch of libertarians together, but not really on such a localized level. It really has to be at the State level to have any real effect, unless the biggest assault on your freedom is that you’re forbidden from buying liquor at 11:59am on a Sunday in your town. That’s what the Free State Project is doing, by convincing liberty-minded Americans to move to New Hampshire and offset Masshole creep there.
And I really don’t get the whole communal aspect. I don’t think this is what Ayn Rand had in mind.
The real stage 2 of the movement is to elect more Congressmen who are pro-freedom. Ron Paul trounced his district opponent, despite the best efforts of the neocons. Libertarian candidates can win on a local level.
Mark Jaquith on April 19, 2008 at 1:47 AM
If it’s Freedom and Liberty…why the gates?
sabbott on April 19, 2008 at 8:06 AM
These people are not real libertarians. They are populist leftwinger anarchists who have infiltrated our libertarian movement.
Real libertarians support fighting Al Qaeda and Muslim Terrorists who want to destroy our civil liberties. These Ron Paul people are pacifist appeasement non-interventionists who want to negotiate with Al Qaeda.
Please don’t confuse them with real libertarians.
Eric Dondero, Founder
Republican Liberty Caucus
Fmr. Senior Aide, US Congressman Ron Paul (1997-2003)
Fmr. Libertarian National Committeeman
25-year libertarian political activist
ericdondero on April 19, 2008 at 9:45 AM
You know, there’s a nice piece of property near Eldorado, Texas that Paul’s supporters came probably get on the cheap. Might have to do some fix-up work due to all the kids that have been running around, though.
jon1979 on April 19, 2008 at 9:48 AM
Will they call it Heavens Gate?
Bicyea on April 19, 2008 at 10:12 AM
It’s a shame, because his opponent was a sharp guy with no hint of teh craaazy.
I live in Paul’s district and made a point of voting because it was important to get him out. Plenty of people I knew were voting for that reason only. Unfortunately, we weren’t enough: 1) 30,000 furious Repubs in our district crossed over to vote Dem; 2) lowest Repub turn-out in forever. Uninspired, uninvolved, and downright pissed off Texans – you can’t force them to do squat.
Redhead Infidel on April 19, 2008 at 1:51 PM
This Paulville project reminds just me a little of the Free Staters in New Hampshire, except less refined, less democratic, and more socialist.
Redhead Infidel on April 19, 2008 at 1:54 PM
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