Iraq vet: Reid and Boxer walked out of briefing with general
posted at 5:34 pm on April 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
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So says Army Reserve Maj. Will Breazale to John Hawkins, claiming that the dynamic duo were so frustrated with the general’s use of military jargon that they stormed out in a huff. I don’t doubt Breazale’s story, but could there have been a miscommunication? Maybe they left for some other reason and he simply misunderstood? Just seems like a totally gratuitous headache for them to bring upon themselves by behaving so rudely to someone in the military. Patrick McHenry ate buckets of crap for less.
On the flip side, not that it would excuse the rudeness, but doesn’t the military typically dial down the jargon when conferring with civilian leaders? Click the image to watch.
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Hard to tell.
Didn’t Bob Kerrey and Lee Hamilton walk out of the Oval Office in the middle of Bush & Cheney’s testimony? Strange things happen some times.
And I would also guess that the Military wouldn’t fill a report with acronyms in a briefing to civilians. No way to know unless you speak to someone directly there.
wise_man on April 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Allahpundit, I don’t know what’s the point of this topic, seriously.
It’s like an equation with a zero result.
Indy Conservative on April 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Which general?
Neither Reid nor Boxer set any records for intellect or manners toward those they don’t find useful or who bring unwanted messages. It could have been the jargon or it could have been a message they couldn’t stand to hear, not a “useful” message.
Or it could be some kind of misunderstanding somewhere in the loop.
Harry Schell on April 18, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Love that everyone wants to go shake the hand of Benny – the new American citizen, not the people running for office. Bangin al Dosakee thank you for your service, welcome to the greatest country in the world, we’re very glad your part of us.
talking_mouse on April 18, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Perhaps their frustration was the failure of the brass to use the phrase “total failure”.
eeyore on April 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Perhaps it is more of a CYA? As in, if you are willfully ignorant of the facts you cannot be accused of lying?
bbz123 on April 18, 2008 at 5:49 PM
The jargon he was speaking was plain English and they didn’t understand a word of it, so they left. Typical lib asshats, don’t like what they hear, so they leave.
Torch on April 18, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Military jargon???
Like what – win?
subbottomfeeder on April 18, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Walking out looks way more dignified than sticking thier fingers in thier ears and yelling “LALALALALA! I’M NOT LISTENING! LALALALALA!”
Besides, when did either of those classless douchebags ever show ANY respect for ANYONE in the military?
SuperCool on April 18, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Maybe he’s trying to draw us away from the Expelled thread.
the goddess anna on April 18, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Boxer and Reid were looking for a dictionary. The General was using hard words.
pat on April 18, 2008 at 6:02 PM
SNAFU?
Buy Danish on April 18, 2008 at 6:07 PM
You nailed it sub
Ltmousseman on April 18, 2008 at 6:07 PM
You can only dumb things down so far.
ReubenJCogburn on April 18, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Comes here legally, speaks the language, becomes a citizen and gets involved in the political process. I’m bitter but I kind of like the guy.
Les in NC on April 18, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Hell even the varying branches of the military don’t even speak the same language.
One reason the Military Services have trouble operating jointly is that they don’t speak the same language. For example, if you told Navy personnel to “secure a building,” they would turn off the lights and lock the doors. The Army would occupy the building so no one could enter. Marines would assault the building, capture it, and defend it with suppressive fire and close combat. The Air Force, on the other hand, would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy.
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Boxer walked out probably because she hasn’t got the brains to understand words of more than one syllable, slowly strung together.
Not that I dislike here or anything….
irishspy on April 18, 2008 at 6:30 PM
After what Boxer pulled this week why would you expect anything else AP?
Typical nose in the air elitist — she and Reid.
Domino on April 18, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Military jargon? These individuals live their life in a military world 24/7 365. I, for one, would prefer they use such jargon. It is, IMHO, for the uninitiated in such to learn it . After all, all reports, assessments, logistics and strategic plans are in such jargon. These tools in the Senate don’t do anything constructive anyway, let them learn a “language” that means something.
MB4
Heck, I always understood squids and they always understood jarheads.
MNDavenotPC on April 18, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Oh and the terms FUBAR and BOHICA accurately describe what the liberals are doing, more so than the Republicans
MNDavenotPC on April 18, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Battery adjust, watch for cook offs, azimuth 4750, shell HE, charge 6, fuse VT, number 4 one round, battery 1 round in effect, deflection 2990, quadrant 650, number four fire!
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 6:52 PM
DEROS was my personal favorite military acronym.
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 6:58 PM
The problem with this thread is the same problem as the Expelled thread – not enough information to form an opinion.
That ever stopped anyone, mind you.
Merovign on April 18, 2008 at 6:58 PM
DEROS yeah all we’d say is “I’m short!”
MB4 what ship were you on? We had cookoff’s with M-60s.
MNDavenotPC on April 18, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Barbara Boxer sounds dien cai dao, Harry Reid smells like nuoc mam and both are xau lam.
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 7:21 PM
David Bellavia is not amused.
ScottMcC on April 18, 2008 at 7:22 PM
No ship. 105 and 155. Strictly land luber.
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 7:23 PM
well, you used the same commands as Navy and the Corps…. I was on an FSB when I was in Nam… heard those terms alot…. so Boxer and Reid could learn , too dontcha think?
MNDavenotPC on April 18, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Boxer and Reid would make number ten GI.
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 7:31 PM
No! number sittynine GI… con biet? I’d love to be able to stand in front of them and say du dit. Oh sheesh, we gotta stop this……lol
MNDavenotPC on April 18, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Barbara and Harry would be xau lam (number ten thousand) GI’s.
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Come on…we are talking Boxer and Reid here. What is the mystery ? They are both rude and nasty beasts. We have known that for years.
JonRoss on April 18, 2008 at 7:55 PM
MB4
You gun bunnies always dealt in mils instead of degrees.
But dammit when I say fire for effect I want more then one round.
Just A Grunt on April 18, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Ask and you shall receive.
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Umm,couldn’t they just get a translator!
(I’m kidding of course!)
canopfor on April 18, 2008 at 8:34 PM
No ship. 105 and 155. Strictly land luber.
MB4 on April 18,2008 at 7:23PM.
MB4: Awesome.So your in Howitzer Heaven!
Thats pretty cool,MB4,artillary rocks!
Hey,MB lobby AllahPundit for War Porn
Fridays!
canopfor on April 18, 2008 at 8:42 PM
sorry MB4,forgot the 4!
canopfor on April 18, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Reid and Boxer? Come on, they’re democraps. Of course they would walk out. Heck, I’d wager if a “donor” were on the phone, they would walk out on the Pope.
Zorro on April 18, 2008 at 8:59 PM
I know this is slightly off topic, but the red leg talk brings back old memories. The reason all those services talk the same is that they all learned at the Commanche College for Confused Cannon Cockers (Ft. Sill, where all the services are integrated). For all you incogncenti, there are 6400 mils in a circle, thus the high angle numbers. When the exec says battery one round, he means all six guns. You don’t adjust with 6 guns, wasteful, and confusing to the observer. The next sound you hear after “quadrant” is kachunk as the projo is rammed home. If you are on the other end, you don’t hear a next sound. Finally, for you who do not know military terminology, Infantry is the Queen of battle. Artillery is the King,because they place the ir balls where the queen wants them. I ramble on, but this is good for an old man.
Old Country Boy on April 18, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Probably past their bedtime, 1800 hours and all.
2Tru2Tru on April 18, 2008 at 9:10 PM
If you hear a whomp-whomp (fire is usually adjusted with two guns, used to be anyway)) in one direction and then a whomp-whomp in the other direction, you know that it is time to bend over and kiss your a$$ goodbye.
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Was it high, was it low?
Where the frack did that one go?
As those Caissons go rolling along
Was it left, was it right?,
Now we won’t get our beer tonight
And those Caissons go rolling along.
Then it’s hi! hi! hee!
In the field artillery,
Shout out your numbers loud and strong,
For where’er you go,
You will always know
That the Caissons go rolling along.
MB4 on April 18, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Was it high,was it low?
MB4 on April 18,2008 at 9:15PM
MB4: An artillery poet,now thats a dangerous combination!
Ha Ha.
canopfor on April 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Was one of the phrases they heard “Haze gray and underway”? If Fat Boy Kennedy was there and he heard the “The Sun is over the yardarm” that would explain him leaving quickly.
Mooseman on April 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM
So, now we’re into accusing vets of lying so we can give Reid and Boxer the benefit of the doubt? No can do.
funky chicken on April 18, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Having lived for a few years with a USAF professional, I can attest to needing to get out of earshot for a few, once they get going. They often revel in the mil-tech talk, and it gets tedious. That being said, Reid and Co. should have handled it differently.
leftnomore on April 18, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Dude, I’ve been in the military for twenty seven years and I sit in on briefings from other shops and have no idea what they’re talking about because of the jargon. Fortunately, when I’m leaving and ask others if they got it, they say they have no idea either. At first, I thought I was just stupid but even in the military, different sections use different jargon so I can see an ordinary civilian (but maybe not a congress-person, especially on a military commitee) not getting it. Just my two cents worth.
Big John on April 18, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Had to leave early to get their marching orders from AlQeada and Hamas.
Traitors!
dhunter on April 18, 2008 at 10:11 PM
That has not stopped them so far.
Johan Klaus on April 18, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Here’s some jargon for Boxer and Reid…
F.E.T.E.
JetBlast on April 19, 2008 at 1:18 AM
General:
“Excuse me, sir / ma’am. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn’t we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? ’cause if it leaks to the V.C. he could become a M.I.A. and then we’d all be put out on K.P.”
*Reid and Boxer walking out*
labrat on April 19, 2008 at 1:23 AM
Our military has young men and women dying and being seriously injured in Iraq and Afganistan and these two pricks walk out on them over terminology? And the American people keep voting Democratic…
sabbott on April 19, 2008 at 8:16 AM
From recent Mark Steyn article:
[Emphasis added.]
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on April 19, 2008 at 3:48 PM
D.C. has its own language anyway; there’s Hillary’s form of lying which is “not always accurate.” And a reduction in the percentage of the increase of a line item’s funding becomes a “cut in funding.”
And the top middle class paying the bulk of taxes is “progressive” instead of “oppressive.”
It’s a whole other world, D.C.
Neo on April 19, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Reid and Boxer had a very important meeting with Megarich San Francisco donors to attend. Why don’t you cut them some slack. you bitter gun-toting religious nut?
BKennedy on April 19, 2008 at 11:27 PM
It’s just as well that they left as they aren’t fit to sit in Maj. Breazale presence anyway.
MannyT-vA on April 20, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Another pointless apology from Allahpundit
WoosterOh on April 20, 2008 at 3:13 PM
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