Hillary ’95 on working-class southern voters: “Screw ‘em”

posted at 4:30 pm on April 16, 2008 by Allahpundit

Any opportunity to bash Hillary is a good opportunity, but is this really a huge deal? Bittergate went nuclear because it tapped so perfectly into the elite left’s condescension about guns and religion. She’s not acting condescending here, she’s acting, well, bitter about having been battered by southern voters in the 1994 midterms. Doesn’t excuse her dismissiveness, but then conservatives have also been known to let their pique get the better of them after a tough loss. People in the heat of anger say rash things. Even the, ahem, defender of the common man:

In January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach.

“Screw ‘em,” she told her husband. “You don’t owe them a thing, Bill. They’re doing nothing for you; you don’t have to do anything for them.”

Follow the link to see how the Clenis replied. HuffPo wants you to believe it’s indistinguishable from what Obama said, but there’s no contempt for anyone’s values or imputation of false consciousness in his comments. Reminds you of just how slick he was before he became an abject imbecile.

Update: I can’t bear the thought of a full-on defense of the Clintons here. Something to cleanse the palate.


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It seems (slightly) different. Obama’s remark actually looked down on them (gun and religion-toting bigots). She’s saying “screw ‘em” because they didn’t vote for her husband.

Neither is good, but one seems a bit more condescending.

amerpundit on April 16, 2008 at 4:35 PM

“They’re doing nothing for you; you don’t have to do anything for them.”

If only the average black voter would face reality and apply that statement to the democratic party.

BacaDog on April 16, 2008 at 4:36 PM

“Screw ‘em,” she told her husband. “You don’t owe them a thing, Bill. They’re doing nothing for you; you don’t have to do anything for them.”

Reminds me of this: These photos were taken at the post-election anti-Bush rally in San Francisco on November 3, 2004. (First photo)

Content warning, language on that link of the photograph.

wise_man on April 16, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Well, well, well. Now we know how hc and bho do really feel about people like me, a southern voter. I have to say, I knew it all along, but it is GREAT for both of them to tell us. Keep giving us all the fun up-dates you can find. hc and mo are on the same wave link, ‘screw’em’.
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letget on April 16, 2008 at 4:41 PM

She was kinda cute during that 92 campaign, wasn’t she?

lorien1973 on April 16, 2008 at 4:41 PM

“Hillary Clinton has a very strong customer view: the citizen is the customer and the government the vender,”

Right. Except us customers keep paying taxes for shoddy goods with no return policy.

BacaDog on April 16, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Everyone played into Obama’s hands by harping on “bitterness” and “elitism” and this is the result. Check out kausfiles.com for the real issues. If you’re going gotcha politics with Obama you have to really focus on the raw issue with primary evidence without drawing bumper sticker conclusions. Team Obama is using the punditry against itself by volleying conclusions and ignoring the evidence used to infer the conclusions.

ninjapirate on April 16, 2008 at 4:44 PM

lorien1973 on April 16, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Funny, I was just thinking how ugly she was. She’s too ugly for that long hair. She looks ridiculous. She has become easier on the eyes as she’s aged (I only wish the same were true for the ears.)

TheBigOldDog on April 16, 2008 at 4:46 PM

From:
NYT Column: “Liberties; Up Close and Personal”
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: March 14, 1996
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E0DF1639F937A25750C0A960958260

The Clintons had decided the best way to clear their name was to open themselves to a reputable journalist. Mr. [James B.] Stewart — the former front-page editor of The Wall Street Journal, a Pulitzer Prize winner for reporting on the insider-trading scandal, author of the best-selling “Den of Thieves” — drips reputability. But the spin backfired when it turned out the Clintons wanted exoneration without examination. They denied their hand-picked author access once they realized he wanted the truth. The account he produced, persevering on his own, ["Blood Sport"] backs up the reporting on Whitewater that the White House had vilified. “I started the book with the premise that there was nothing to hide,” Mr. Stewart told me. “But I ended up writing about a consistent theme of dishonesty and embarrassing bad judgment.”

[...]

Mr. Stewart recounts an anecdote from Susan McDougal, the Clintons’ embittered partner in the Whitewater deal, about Mrs. Clinton trying to help her husband win back the State House in 1982. A woman came up and gave Mrs. Clinton earrings shaped like Razorback hogs. After the woman left, Mrs. McDougal said, Mrs. Clinton told her that this was the kind of expletive-deleted that she had “to put up with.”

RBMN on April 16, 2008 at 4:48 PM

She was kinda cute during that 92 campaign, wasn’t she?

lorien1973 on April 16, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Even Hillary gets the “she’s hot?”. Is an image of any woman safe from critique? Maybe the comment section should have a built in ‘hot or not’ widget.

tlynch001 on April 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM

I know these boys. I grew up with them. Hardworking, poor, white boys, who feel left out, feel that our reforms always come at their expense. Think about it, every progressive advance our country has made since the Civil War has been on their backs. They’re the ones asked to pay the price of progress.

THIS is what most of the Northeast elite don’t understand. THIS is 100% accurate and how most Southerners feel. THIS is the foundation for the hostility Southerners feel toward Yankees. Yankees don’t understand that when they look down their noses at Jim Crow laws and segregated schools and societies. THEY don’t now and never had to deal with the consequences of the ‘changes’ that they forced on us. People in all white areas of the country just looked at us and said, here’s how you are going to do it now – and they NEVER considered the consequences of the changes because they didn’t have to deal with them. Equality and fairness was a necessity. But it’s easy for an all white society to look at segregation as ‘horrid’ when they didn’t have to deal with the societal issues of the time.

Since they marched through South Carolina and burned a mile wide swath through it, Southerners have felt exactly what Clinton said in this statement. And it has nothing to do with what Obama said in his statement about God, Guns, and immigrants.

ThackerAgency on April 16, 2008 at 4:58 PM

The bottom line: Both of these candidates will be pretty bloodied up by the time one is out.

AbaddonsReign on April 16, 2008 at 4:59 PM

“Hillary Clinton has a very strong customer view: the citizen is the customer and the government the vender,”

I’m a customer and the government is the vendor? Great. I want my money back. This product sucks.

AZCoyote on April 16, 2008 at 4:59 PM

“Screw ‘em,” she told her husband. “You don’t owe them a thing, Bill. They’re doing nothing for you; you don’t have to do anything for them.”

And Bill certainly did in more ways than one…

rbb on April 16, 2008 at 5:09 PM

BacaDog on April 16, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Indeed. Miss Hillary ain’t the answer, and neither is Massa Obama.

Neo: What truth?

Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.

It’s OK to stop being a slave. It’s OK to Leave the Plantation.

Red Pill on April 16, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Libs/Dems are working on their own Southern Strategy to get and keep a majority – it’s called amnesty. If you can’t beat ‘em, overwhelm ‘em!

DerKrieger on April 16, 2008 at 5:43 PM

If nothing else, Mrs. Clinton applied her personal brand of tastelessness to the position of first lady. In her case, “lady” wasn’t always accurate.

whitetop on April 16, 2008 at 5:48 PM

“You don’t owe them a thing, Bill. They’re doing nothing for you; you don’t have to do anything for them.”

I`ll be sure to remember this next time I hear her say, “I want-to-serve ALL Americans.”

ThePrez on April 16, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Since they marched through South Carolina and burned a mile wide swath through it, Southerners have felt exactly what Clinton said in this statement. And it has nothing to do with what Obama said in his statement about God, Guns, and immigrants.

ThackerAgency on April 16, 2008 at 4:58 PM

You got it Thack. My family was decimated during the war and for 150 years afterward. We were and still are to a degree the whipping boy for Northern guilt. As Morgan Freeman said when someone asked him why he was moving back to Mississippi, bad things may have happened here but it really wasn’t worse than what was going on in the rest of the country.

JonRoss on April 16, 2008 at 6:20 PM

We’d have been better off if she’d stayed home and made cookies.

petefrt on April 16, 2008 at 7:23 PM

In the video it appeared to me like she might be clinging to something.

moxie_neanderthal on April 16, 2008 at 7:45 PM

She has become easier on the eyes as she’s aged (I only wish the same were true for the ears.)

TheBigOldDog on April 16, 2008 at 4:46 PM

I think our eyes have just gotten worse as we’ve aged.

Patrick S on April 16, 2008 at 8:10 PM

The ’94 midterms produced the Peter Jennings commentary that American voters had thrown a temper tantrum by putting the Republicans in power in Congress. That was elitist condescension in the Obama mode, since it portrayed the voters as childishly lashing out against what’s good for them.

It wasn’t true, but Hillary really was having a tantrum over the midterm votes when she uttered the “Screw ‘em” phrase. It probably stems from the same elitist notion that the voters are dumb, but it’s also Hillary lashing out because the voters didn’t understand the wonderfulness of she and her husband, which is more gargantuan ego than it is targeted disdain. Hillary looks down on southern voters, but she also looks down on 99.9 percent of the people in Washington D.C. and New York and the rest of Blue State America as being her lessers, so she’s an equal-opportunity disdainer.

jon1979 on April 16, 2008 at 8:18 PM

If only the average black voter would face reality and apply that statement to the democratic party.

abcurtis on April 17, 2008 at 9:35 AM

She was kinda cute during that 92 campaign, wasn’t she?
lorien1973 on April 16, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Okay, so it’s shallow as all get out, but there’s something about the late 80′s early 90′s look. Probably has more to do with my age than anything. She was sure butt-ugly back in the 70′s.

UndertheBridge on April 17, 2008 at 2:21 PM