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		<title>By: TooTall</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070785</link>
		<dc:creator>TooTall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I know. I was being partly sarcastic.

Indy Conservative on April 15, 2008 at 1:19 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I knew that - just chalk it up to my poor writing skills and a bad habit of answering rhetorical questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know. I was being partly sarcastic.</p>
<p>Indy Conservative on April 15, 2008 at 1:19 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I knew that &#8211; just chalk it up to my poor writing skills and a bad habit of answering rhetorical questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Indy Conservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070664</link>
		<dc:creator>Indy Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;TooTall on April 15, 2008 at 10:54 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I know. I was being partly sarcastic.

Worth reporting.

And who knows, we might intervene some day if our national security is at risk for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>TooTall on April 15, 2008 at 10:54 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>I know. I was being partly sarcastic.</p>
<p>Worth reporting.</p>
<p>And who knows, we might intervene some day if our national security is at risk for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070536</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long will it be before South Africa&#039;s only export is white golfers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long will it be before South Africa&#8217;s only export is white golfers?</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo13</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070435</link>
		<dc:creator>Romeo13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mugabe is Shone tribe...

Mbeki is Xhosa...

Anyone know the tribal politics between those two tribes?


My guess is theres also a cultural context we are missing here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mugabe is Shone tribe&#8230;</p>
<p>Mbeki is Xhosa&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyone know the tribal politics between those two tribes?</p>
<p>My guess is theres also a cultural context we are missing here.</p>
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		<title>By: TooTall</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070309</link>
		<dc:creator>TooTall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And what the U.S. has to do with Zimbabwe?

Indy Conservative on April 15, 2008 at 9:47 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely nothing but that doesn&#039;t stop me from recognizing corruption of the worse kind when I see it.

I&#039;m not advocating interference by the United States since we have too much to lose and too little to gain.  Maybe it&#039;s time for the United States to act only when we stand to make a material gain; acting for humanitarian reasons doesn&#039;t seem to be working that well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And what the U.S. has to do with Zimbabwe?</p>
<p>Indy Conservative on April 15, 2008 at 9:47 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely nothing but that doesn&#8217;t stop me from recognizing corruption of the worse kind when I see it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not advocating interference by the United States since we have too much to lose and too little to gain.  Maybe it&#8217;s time for the United States to act only when we stand to make a material gain; acting for humanitarian reasons doesn&#8217;t seem to be working that well.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Schell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Schell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>South Africa&#039;s dominant political class (the ANC) are aiming along the same lines as Mugabe in terms of their jobs and economic policy.  They are not proceeding too quickly but Marxist thought oozes from them. 

They don&#039;t want to hassle Mugabe too much (&quot;Crisis? What crisis?&quot;) as someone might see the parallels and blow the whistle.  It&#039;s about screwing the peons and lifetime employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>South Africa&#8217;s dominant political class (the ANC) are aiming along the same lines as Mugabe in terms of their jobs and economic policy.  They are not proceeding too quickly but Marxist thought oozes from them. </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t want to hassle Mugabe too much (&#8220;Crisis? What crisis?&#8221;) as someone might see the parallels and blow the whistle.  It&#8217;s about screwing the peons and lifetime employment.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, how about an African Divestment campaign?  Instead of some sniveling left wing group seeking divestment in favor of a Marxist insurgency, we could seek divestment from every African government which votes against Israel in the UN, and supports or trades with the governments who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, how about an African Divestment campaign?  Instead of some sniveling left wing group seeking divestment in favor of a Marxist insurgency, we could seek divestment from every African government which votes against Israel in the UN, and supports or trades with the governments who do.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070244</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you&#039;re good, you&#039;re good, and since the left was honest enough about politics to unashamedly honor Karl Rove as a political genius and Enemy #1, I think we can finally step up and applaud the left on this one.  

This was genius:  they have made a Marxist with terrorist leanings -- Nelson Mandela -- into an international hero and patron saint of leftism, such that even his Marxist successor Mbeki, a corrupt bag of scum, gets an almost completely free ride from the international press.

There really isn&#039;t a parallel on the right, since we don&#039;t like corrupt, murderous scum, Marxist or otherwise, and tend to eventually seek their ouster even when they are politically or financially convenient (too many examples to name).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you&#8217;re good, you&#8217;re good, and since the left was honest enough about politics to unashamedly honor Karl Rove as a political genius and Enemy #1, I think we can finally step up and applaud the left on this one.  </p>
<p>This was genius:  they have made a Marxist with terrorist leanings &#8212; Nelson Mandela &#8212; into an international hero and patron saint of leftism, such that even his Marxist successor Mbeki, a corrupt bag of scum, gets an almost completely free ride from the international press.</p>
<p>There really isn&#8217;t a parallel on the right, since we don&#8217;t like corrupt, murderous scum, Marxist or otherwise, and tend to eventually seek their ouster even when they are politically or financially convenient (too many examples to name).</p>
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		<title>By: gabriel sutherland</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070203</link>
		<dc:creator>gabriel sutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: If the old &quot;New Left&quot; were to run a government what would it look like?

A: South Africa led by the African National Congress.

Supporting the Apartheid government in South Africa is still hurting the United States today.  You have to triangulate against the old &quot;New Left&quot; student activists that are now the elected officials in these countries.  If you don&#039;t do it early you end up with the more South Africas in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: If the old &#8220;New Left&#8221; were to run a government what would it look like?</p>
<p>A: South Africa led by the African National Congress.</p>
<p>Supporting the Apartheid government in South Africa is still hurting the United States today.  You have to triangulate against the old &#8220;New Left&#8221; student activists that are now the elected officials in these countries.  If you don&#8217;t do it early you end up with the more South Africas in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: rbj</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070160</link>
		<dc:creator>rbj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;FOR THOSE who argue that democracies are natural allies in international affairs, South Africa poses a vexing challenge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just how much of a democrat is Mbeki?  The ANC was allied with the Soviet Union and holds a lot of power in SA.  Mbeki&#039;s probably jealous of all the power that Mugabe has and would like to have it himself.  Fortunately SA has a somewhat democratic tradition and competing interest groups, so he can&#039;t seize total power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>FOR THOSE who argue that democracies are natural allies in international affairs, South Africa poses a vexing challenge.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just how much of a democrat is Mbeki?  The ANC was allied with the Soviet Union and holds a lot of power in SA.  Mbeki&#8217;s probably jealous of all the power that Mugabe has and would like to have it himself.  Fortunately SA has a somewhat democratic tradition and competing interest groups, so he can&#8217;t seize total power.</p>
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		<title>By: Think_b4_speaking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think_b4_speaking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;President Thabo Mbeki has consistently allied itself with the world’s rogue states and against the Western democracies. It has defended Iran’s nuclear program and resisted sanctions against it; shielded Sudan and Burma from the sort of pressure the United Nations once directed at the apartheid regime; and enthusiastically supported one-sided condemnations of Israel by the U.N. Human Rights Council.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lefties usually stick together - guess the WaPo didn&#039;t get the memo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>President Thabo Mbeki has consistently allied itself with the world’s rogue states and against the Western democracies. It has defended Iran’s nuclear program and resisted sanctions against it; shielded Sudan and Burma from the sort of pressure the United Nations once directed at the apartheid regime; and enthusiastically supported one-sided condemnations of Israel by the U.N. Human Rights Council.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lefties usually stick together &#8211; guess the WaPo didn&#8217;t get the memo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: a capella</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070137</link>
		<dc:creator>a capella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLT with a little Marxist totalitarianism thrown in is always good for a country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLT with a little Marxist totalitarianism thrown in is always good for a country.</p>
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		<title>By: Indy Conservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/15/south-africa-fails-on-zimbabwe-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1070129</link>
		<dc:creator>Indy Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what the U.S. has to do with Zimbabwe?

We&#039;re too stretched out. We can&#039;t send the Marines.

Already Hussein Banana O&#039;Samba in a major speech on Foreign Policy yesterday said that when he&#039;s president, he&#039;ll &quot;pull out the troops from Siberia and send the Special Forces to Switzerland to destroy a nuclear reactor suspected of being used to build a nuclear bomb by that rogue nation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what the U.S. has to do with Zimbabwe?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re too stretched out. We can&#8217;t send the Marines.</p>
<p>Already Hussein Banana O&#8217;Samba in a major speech on Foreign Policy yesterday said that when he&#8217;s president, he&#8217;ll &#8220;pull out the troops from Siberia and send the Special Forces to Switzerland to destroy a nuclear reactor suspected of being used to build a nuclear bomb by that rogue nation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: funky chicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>funky chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thabo Mbeki&#039;s been perverse and immoral for at least 5 years.  It&#039;s nice that the WaPost finally noticed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thabo Mbeki&#8217;s been perverse and immoral for at least 5 years.  It&#8217;s nice that the WaPost finally noticed.</p>
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