Moral exemplar lays wreath at Arafat’s grave; Update: Carter hugs Hamas official
posted at 9:11 am on April 15, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Via Israel Matzav. A painful concession forced upon him by the Palestinian leadership as a condition for meeting with them? Unlikely. He’s doing them a favor by visiting, not vice versa. He probably did it because he sincerely wanted to pay his respects to the modern Middle East’s original archterrorist. And, of course, because George Bush conspicuously refused to stoop to this when he visited Ramallah. Keep fighting the real enemy, Jimbo.
Update: Today’s his first meeting with Hamas, by the way. Not the last. That’ll come Friday when he meets with Meshaal in Damascus.
Update: Brothers in arms.
At a reception in the West Bank town of Ramallah organized by Carter’s office, the former president hugged Nasser Shaer, a senior Hamas politician, meeting participants said. Embraces between men are a common custom in Arab culture.
“He gave me a hug. We hugged each other, and it was a warm reception,” Shaer told The Associated Press. “Carter asked what he can do to achieve peace between the Palestinians and Israel … and I told him the possibility for peace is high.”
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Hell no. Why should anyone rely on the opinions of people who lived through the Carter years when we have alphie quoting stats from the History News Network poll of 109 “historians” …. like liberal historian Doris Kearns Goodwin, I assume. What a joke.
I’m sorry, but just a few more than 109 people lived through the Carter years and you didn’t have to be a historian to know what a poor excuse for a leader he was.
Want to know history? It’s as easy as taking a poll in alphie’s confusing little world.
And we don’t have to predict how history will judge Jimmy Carter. He left office 28 years ago. That makes his presidency history in the here and now, and one we wish never happened and could all forget.
fogw on April 15, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Yeah, he was a peach he was. A regular Georgia peach of a president. About as hard as a peach and about as smart.
Limerick on April 15, 2008 at 12:08 PM
thats sick!
sko17 on April 15, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Carters book tour. Palestine Peace Not Apartheid
Not enough people kissing his ass in this country I guess.
Habitat for Stupid.
Kini on April 15, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I can’t tell if Carter is just ignorant, clueless, just plain stupid, or a blending of all three. All I do know is that he has now done more to embolden not just the enemies of Israel, but the enemies of his own country, while he pursues whatever insane legacy he is trying to make for himself here. You can’t even call this bravery on his part, because what he did here borders on treason. I am now questioning if this man is actually sane or has gone senile. He has already demonstrated he is the epitome of naivety.
pilamaye on April 15, 2008 at 12:22 PM
He’s preparing the ground for the Messiah to do the same next year.
Get ready for Barack Hussein Obama’s Islamic appeasement conference.
Pax americana on April 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Well, there IS something to be said about San Francisco Sour-dough.
franksalterego on April 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Just to add a bit of bonafides to my stories…
A little momento from ‘DaPlane’….
Camel Filters
Limerick on April 15, 2008 at 12:30 PM
He’s creating the same kind of damage to the peace effort that the “pull em’ out now” Congesscritters and street protesters are doing to the Iraq effort. No Iraqi is going to commit to the coalition side without wondering what will happen to him and his family if we pull the rug out from under them. That’s why it took so long for them to step up against al Qaeda,..they remember what George Herbert Bush did to them in ‘91. Every ounce of support we give to Hamas discourages those who might otherwise reject them.
a capella on April 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM
History will say that Jimmy Carter was a wonderful President. Quotes from Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Dick Durbin will be accummulated in beautiful glossy coffee table books on the “Wonderful Presidency of Jimmy Carter” with a prelude by Larry King.
Travis1 on April 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM
For the people who lived through Carter and Bush, Jiang, I think it’s safe to say only a small, bitter minority with a poor grasp of history will rate Bush higher.
Bush, for example drove oil from $26/barrel to $107/barrel and climbing…we’re just starting to see the economic impact of that.
Carter only hit around $30 a barrel oil and it caused a recession…
alphie on April 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM
ROTF….was there. What did I miss? Oh and the bitter part tells it all. You be a peach too alphie.
Limerick on April 15, 2008 at 12:45 PM
For the people who lived through Carter and Bush, Jiang, I think it’s safe to say only a small, bitter minority with a poor grasp of history will rate Bush higher.
Bush, for example drove oil from $26/barrel to $107/barrel and climbing…we’re just starting to see the economic impact of that.
Carter only hit around $30 a barrel oil and it caused a recession…
alphie on April 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Are you Nancy Pelosi in disguise?
Travis1 on April 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM
A friend of mine called that a target-rich environment.
To which I, like, totally objected ‘n stuff.
Niko on April 15, 2008 at 12:48 PM
That’s ridiculous. The inflation- adjusted cost of that $30/barrel would be approx. $150 today. Add in the fact that cars get roughly 4x better gas mileage and last many many years longer, the cost of driving is way down.
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I don’t. Carter is a hero to a small, bitter group of libs, and many terrorists.
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Carter hugs the sworn enemies of Israel & America and lays a wreath at Yasir Arafat’s (known to many as the “father of modern terrorism”) grave. He also wrote the sequel to Mein Kampf.
Two points here.
1. From a secular point of view Carter endangers you because they cannot integrate with the west. Islam sees the West as “God’s Enemy”. The Quran says to kill Infidels, and that would be anyone who is NOT a muslim. Remember after Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. At last, the Palestinians were free to show how they could build their own society. So what did they do with their freedom? They elected the terrorist organization Hamas in 2006. Carter is empowering a group that believe you are an infidel and must be annihilated.
2. From a Christian point of view, if you are an enemy of Israel, you are an enemy of God.
“I (God) will bless them that bless thee (Israel), and curse him that curseth thee” Genesis 12:3
Everyone wants to have a say in what happens with Jerusalem. World Leaders want it as an “International City.” The Arabs claim it belongs to them … But what does GOD say?
“The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine…” Leviticus 25:23
In a nutshell: God owns the land, but you might say that God leased the land to Jews/Israel. (Genesis 12:1-3, Genesis 17:8, Deuteronomy 34:4, etcetera).
So on both fronts Carter is wrong.
apacalyps on April 15, 2008 at 1:07 PM
While I would like to single-handedly credit President Bush with all the economic ups and downs in the world, isn’t it just slightly more likely that supply and demand did most of the work in driving the cost of oil up?
Considering the emerging economies in India and China and their currently insatiable demand for oil combined with all the new products that use oil/oil by-products (like plastics, etc), I consider it a miracle that oil is currently as cheap as it is.
JadeNYU on April 15, 2008 at 1:08 PM
That is some industrial strengh delusion on display right there.
Hey alph, I lived through the Carter years and though I hate to admit it, Carter was the first President I ever voted for. He was also the very last democrat I ever voted for. I’m not bitter at all, just very clear-eyed.
Carter’s presidency truely was the very worst in American history. It kicked off several key events that have metastasized and enabled and encouraged the advancement of the jihadis. That’s just a fact.
Check out carter’s sources of funding. He is completely bought and paid for by the Arabs. Just check the donor list for his presidential library for confirmation.
And for the record, a President has very little to do with oil prices. Oil is a commodity. You know, supply and demand. Free markets. All that evil capitalist stuff.
Also, I’ve had the great pleasure to work with some really bright historians, but every single one of them is an open leftist. Their prejudice does not make them correct.
techno_barbarian on April 15, 2008 at 1:08 PM
I remember Carter. I made the mistake of voting for him in 1976 and I am very bitter about that. That’s the last time I ever voted for a Democrat for president. Historically, our economic difficulties today don’t even come close to the economy that Jimminy Carter destroyed. Gas lines, even-odd days, double didget inflation, stagflation, Jimminy’s fireside chats ala FDR. Foreign policy wise it might have even been worse. Jimminy single-handidly built the foundation of Islamo-terrorism by totally mismanaging Iran and left all his successors to deal with it…including the current Bush. The absolute worst president I have seen in my lifetime, (and I’ve been around since Harry Truman), and what compunds this miserable failure of a president is that he has managed to be an even worse ex-president. The best thing that can happen now is that Jimminy hurries up and gets his final 21 gun salute.
sdd on April 15, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Can’t wait till he endorses Barry.
LtE126 on April 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Barry may not want that endorsement anymore. Or will he?
TexasJew on April 15, 2008 at 1:21 PM
I wonder/worry/fear that Barry is about to go for broke and openly embrace his liberalism and his heroes (Carter,for ex.) This could re-energize his problematic campaign, at least in regards to soundly defeating Hillary to win the nomination.
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 1:25 PM
alphie, history is what happened, not what you, or liberal historians wish would have happened.
Entelechy on April 15, 2008 at 1:28 PM
alphie, the blame for the FUTURE price of a barrel of oil lies on the shoulders of the FUTURES TRADERS.
Pulchritudinous Patriot on April 15, 2008 at 1:35 PM
And, to use a real-life example, my father bought a 1976 F350 new for $4000 around the beginning of the Carter administration. Due to inflation over the intervening years, I would be ecstatic if you could point me to a contemporary equivalent for less than $24000 (a 600% increase, equivalent to oil going from $30 to $180).
That’s only one example, there are many more where that came from.
cs89 on April 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM
Old man or not, he (Carter The Father of Modern Terrorism) needs to be pistol whipped. I would lay a steaming pile of **** at his grave.
americaslaststand on April 15, 2008 at 1:50 PM
“I would lay a steaming pile of **** at his grave.”
Arafat’s grave that is
americaslaststand on April 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM
WTH! is that guy talking about in that video? >:{
Chakra Hammer on April 15, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Here’s one more thing to ‘bring it all back’ for you, and it’s something I do not understand about the liberal/progressive mindset when it comes to their disgust for conservative Christians. Because, as we see with both Carter and Obama, the Christian left does not bother them, if Carter and Obama can even be called Christians. When Carter was President, he was a true abstaining Southern Baptist and, as such, he banned alcohol in the White House for all State dinners, which made having dinner at the White House not something world leaders were jumping at the bit to attend. Now President Bush also abstains, as a result of being a recovering alcoholic, but he does not push his abstinence on others and alcohol has been served at his White House his entire term. Like I said, a liberal disconnect in their anti-Christian agenda.
RickZ on April 15, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Bush drove oil to $107… Riiigghhhttt !!!
It couldn’t possibly be linked to the increase usage by developing nations (read supply and demand)… and the fact that we’re not allowed to drill for oil from our own resources like ANWAR (thank you environmentalists and demoncrats and wussy repubs) … and placing restrictions on the usage of Canadian oil (again thanks to the above idiots)
Nah … that couldn’t be it. It’s all Bush’s fault (not saying he’s managed things well, but let’s not let that get in the way of the narrative).
tripster on April 15, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Ok, I have posted this several times…One of the truly great civilizations on this earth, contributing to the arts, science, medicine per capita far beyond any other group of people, the Jews…and what do they do? Become democrats to support a group that wants to destroy them, I just don’t understand it. As brilliant as a group of people are the Jews, and they are so, so, so stupid about this one thing. They support, avidly, a political party that wants to destroy, or at least a political party that supports people who want to kill every last one of them…I am forever stunned and shocked by this phenomenon.
*
I think I will send money to the DNC, so they can send their spokesperson over to encourage my enemies to kill me…
right2bright on April 15, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Eh…no different from us fence builders and the no fence people. Some get it, some don’t.
Limerick on April 15, 2008 at 2:15 PM
as if we all did not know this already… TRAITOR!
Kaptain Amerika on April 15, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Speaking of people that get it, you might want to read this editorial by Haaretz on the Jimmy Carter:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/974893.html
You will see that not all Jews see him as the devil incarnate.
mycowardice on April 15, 2008 at 2:18 PM
laying down the facts… nicely done. but the facts will get you no where with the left.
Kaptain Amerika on April 15, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Moral exemplar lays wreath at Arafat’s grave, urinates on tombs of Israeli terror victims.
argos on April 15, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Not at all. Most jews are liberals. Kind of destroys the old shibboleth that jews are intellectually superior.
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Why, because there are a few conservative jews? I think you shouldn’t fault the many for the faults of the few.
mycowardice on April 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Fixed it!
Trafalgar on April 15, 2008 at 2:40 PM
I don’t understand your comment.
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Why does Carter’s wife get off scott-free. She’s a POS too. Needs to be said more often or people won’t know that.
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Fool
How many American $$$$$$$ went to the grave with Arafat?
TroubledMonkey on April 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM
I wonder if Jimmah can get a discount deal on a plot next to Arafat?
belad on April 15, 2008 at 3:37 PM
From really bad….
… to even worse.
If you think the Carter administration was better than the Bush administration, in spite of the ridiculously high inflation, recession, unemployment, spiraling (upward) deficits, spiraling (downward) security, and being a patsy to every tin-pot dictator around the world while trying to portray yourself as “the human rights president,” then you just might be a liberal. You’ve certainly abandoned rational thinking, which is the primary requirement.
If you read that a poll of 109 historians has already concluded that the current president is the worst ever, then you definitely lack a healthy skepticism.
If you really believe that 98% of Iranians voted for their current president, then you probably believe that 100% of Iraqis voted for Saddam. A 98% vote is a sign of one thing: a rigged election. But apparently, you’re clueless.
Carter was such a horrible president that people took a chance on Reagan. Reagan represented a complete break with the approach of the last 20 years. People would have never voted for him, except Carter made it clear just how badly that direction had failed. The only reason people fail to appreciate how bad Carter was is that the Reagan administration worked so hard to undo the damage.
tom on April 15, 2008 at 3:47 PM
right2bright on April 15, 2008 at 2:11 PM
I’ve wondered off hand about that as well. I understand the African-American vote perpetuating the “gimme” welfare state as their “right” by voting DNC. As per the generalization linking Jews and liberalism, is must have some natural relationship with emotional compensation and their own culture’s power structure. I was listening to a Jewish scholar regarding their take on their scriptures; their prophet would recognize a social problem and go to God and come back with the answer. And as times changed, God adapts the rules for justice (revised inheritance going to a female child if no male in the family, example). To put the Hebrew in Europe experience in a nutshell, it was painfully uneasy. With the European political uprisings beginning in 1848, it was often Jews leading the charge for change and more power via progressive socialism in each of its embodiments, Marx best known in his constellation of followers. There’s always compensation made to accomodate stability following revolutionary change. And perhaps for the larger political body of Jews, remaining true to socialism is akin to “being” Jewish culturally, just as with the orthodox Jew, remaining orthodox is “being” Jewish. And there is one lesson the world teaches, safety in numbers. So rather than rock the ark, stick together and hold the rudder to determine course.
That Nazi and Italian fascism and Islam were tightly woven has not phased the politically progressive Jew from the Socialist altar. That Islam is becoming fast what the prophets predicted won’t alter someone faithful from their altar.
But prior to WWII, Socialism/Progressivism/liberalism/Communism have improved the lot of freedom for the Jews whom kingdoms and empires had previously tormented.
maverick muse on April 15, 2008 at 3:48 PM
He’s the reason I got out of the Air Force.
oakpack on April 15, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Very well said. But I truly wish, no wished, that American jews would have given America the benefit of the doubt more, and done more to abandon that reflexive attachment to liberalism you describe. It’s out-of-place here, and unnecessary since the conditions you describe never existed here for jews.
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 3:56 PM
You forgot to adjust for inflation. Which is incredibly ironic when talking about the presidency of Jimmy Carter.
Having lived through the presidency of both Carter and Bush, and knowing many others who lived through both presidencies, it’s already easy to rule out your prediction of a “small, bitter minority” that would rate Bush higher. Carter was widely despised while president. Opinions of him improved slightly when he seemed to avoid politics and dedicate himself to Habitat for Humanity. Alas, he threw away his best chance of being remembered positively, and people are rapidly remembering what a disaster he always was.
tom on April 15, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Carter’s next stop: to Germany, so he can have a nice wreath-laying photo op at Hitler’s grave.
jgapinoy on April 15, 2008 at 4:03 PM
I’ve heard this sort of thing from others who were in the military during the Carter administration.
Fortunately, Reagan was president when I was in the Army. The Carter days were dark days for the military.
tom on April 15, 2008 at 4:04 PM
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 3:56 PM
It’s just an opinion based on generalities.
As per the “why still now” element, the only logical answer is that they own and are not about to relinquish what they earned regardless of the cost that comes with their place of momentum in the progressive’s magnificent abuse of power.
Communism seems to excell most powerfully where racism rules unbounded, for example in China; would you agree?
That makes it $.06 now.
maverick muse on April 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM
I don’t know, but I got this e-mail from his wife today.
From: Mrs.Suha Tawil Arafat
Reply To These Mail: mrssuharafat1@jmail.co.za
Dear Intending partner
This mail may not be surprising to you if you have
been following current events in the international
media with reference to the Middle East and
Palestine in particular.
I am Mrs. Suha Tawil Arafat, the wife of Yasser
Arafat, the Palestinian leader who died recently
in Paris France. Since his death and even prior to
the announcement, I have been thrown into a state
of antagonism, confusion, humiliation, frustration
and hopelessness by the present leadership of the
Palestinian Liberation Organization and the new
Prime Minister. I have even been subjected to
physical and psychological torture. As a widow
that is so traumatized, I have lost confidence
with everybody in the country at the moment.
You must have heard over the media reports and the
Internet on the discovery of some fund in my
husband secret bank account and companies and the
allegations of some huge sums of money deposited
by my husband in my name of which I have refuses
to disclose or give up to the corrupt Palestine
Government. In fact the total sum allegedly
discovered by the Government so far is in the tune
of about $6.5 Billion Dollars. And they are not
relenting on their effort to make me poor for
life.As you know, the Moslem community has no
regards for woman, hence my desire for a foreign
assistance. You can visit the BBC news broadcast
below for better understanding of what I am
talking about;
It continues, you get the idea. LOL
chewydog on April 15, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Man, I had never even connected communism with racism. I’ll have to think about that one. Off the cuff, I’m not really sure about China, but in Russia and E. Europe, it seems to me all were treated about equally as long as you belonged to the party.
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 4:23 PM
When Carter got elected, inflation became so AWFUL with 30% credit interest rates, buying a starter home was incredibly difficult–unbelievably difficult compared to now! When Carter determined Iran for Khomeini away from the secular Shah, and when he absolutely FAILED to preserve American security and military support abroad, and gave away the international security that the USA had provided the Panama Canal Zone, there was a lot of ill will that Americans felt for Jimmy Carter. He was a poor American President, probably the worst to date, that coming from someone who voted for him, having since repented. Still, the public did not denounce Carter while he was POTUS, granting him the respect of the office that he is still too small to appreciate. All of his life’s experiences and opportunities have meant no more to Jimmy than means to wield power as the heir of LBJ. But Carter was no LBJ, and though LBJ was “great” in as much as he knew how to push people and force them to obey, LBJ has too much blood on his hands to use as inspiration to emulate. But evidently, that’s how Carter wants to go down in history, with lots of blood on his hands, coercing MORE civilizations than anyone else into his progressive demise.
maverick muse on April 15, 2008 at 4:26 PM
The Left doesn’t love Carter in spite of him embracing evil regimes, but because he embraces them.
Halley on April 15, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Tell the U.S. to allow Israel to be destroyed? Does Jimmy know that the Hamas charter calls for the destruction of Israel?
Negotiate that point away.
ThePrez on April 15, 2008 at 4:34 PM
I’ve often wondered if the US revoked Jimma’s passport, where would he choose to live. I wonder if he would live in Gaza. I actually think he would move to Venezuela or Cuba or perhaps he’s an even bigger hypocrite than I suspect and would move to a western country.
Claypigeon on April 15, 2008 at 4:45 PM
JiangxiDad on April 15, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Each sect of communism sought to eliminate competition. Even when Trotsky ran away and hid in the desert, they had to come after him to assassinate the competition of thought. Russia had so many different races, not just different tribes. Stalin did continue obliterating the Russian Jewish population rather than allow them to escape. All in all, the USSR fell because communism is not the utopia it claims. That, however, is not to say that communism is dead in Russia, as the obvious truth there is that nationalism and communism still go hand in hand in Russia. But Russian “nationalism” seems promoted most strongly around St. Petersburg where the land was wrestled from Sweden, the cradle of socialism, by Peter the Great.
Cuba owed everything to the USSR, and when that went defunk, Cuba suffers. That Cuba is populated by a combination of races, not just tribes, is of interest as once Fidel Castro finally quits breathing, there is no ONE to hold them together any longer. Not to say that communism will fall in Cuba when Fidel passes on, but things will alter to accomodate necessity.
North Korea is the weirdest example of communism strangling its people to death. Perhaps it is a microcosm of China. It seems that in order for the communist experiment to succeed, there can be no variation; all must ascribe to the one way, and that occurs most easily when there is the least variety from the onset.
Communist China is the beast that will consume all. Its success relies upon obedience to its own racism. It tolerates nothing but itself. Whatever one tribe WAS is no longer “relevant” to what one is told to be in order to remain breathing above ground.
Wandering along, that the Olympic Committee chose Beijing as the “host” proves the politics of the Olympic Organization, as the Olympics will not tolerate anything but the Communist Chinese mantra, an endorsement in and of itself. To take “politics” out of the Olympics, build the facilities in Greece from whence the tradition originated, and attend THERE consistently. Then, as humanitarians, spend the billions of dollars wasted rebuilding and relocating on healing the sick and housing the homeless.
I’ve run out of pennies for generalizations.
maverick muse on April 15, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Did Jimmuh make a personal donation to the Arafat AIDs research fund, too?
onlineanalyst on April 15, 2008 at 5:19 PM
My opinion of Carter can be expressed in just two words - Scum Bag.
JonRoss on April 15, 2008 at 5:25 PM
This is just another junket in the Carter Habitat for Inhumanity legacy.
onlineanalyst on April 15, 2008 at 6:02 PM
So you think that the president sets the price of oil? Of course not drilling in Anwar and off the coast, and not allowing new refineries are not a factor?
Johan Klaus on April 15, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Don’t be too hard on Carter. He thinks that he is still president.
Johan Klaus on April 15, 2008 at 6:38 PM
After the pomp and circumstance (and gun fire) that was Arafats free-for-all funeral, I figured he’d have pieces of a broken wood pallet for a headstone.
christophercube on April 15, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Carter’s senior moment is lasting a long time.
Johan Klaus on April 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Carter’s been sufferin’ from Stockholm syndrome since 1979 when Iran held his administration hostage for 443 days.
Oldnuke on April 15, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Congrats… there is a record amount of ignorance crammed into this statement. All I need to say is when there was a referendum on Bush’s presidency, he was re-elected. Carter? Not so much.
Spolitics on April 15, 2008 at 9:17 PM
You know, I danced a jig when this moral and intellectual midget left office…’ding dong, the dipshit’s dead…’, but little did I realize, that he could continue to disgrace my country as an ex-President to a degree that almost makes his pathetic, botton-of-the-barrel, Presidency look good by comparison. I think the phrase ‘…and kept on digging’ was written specifically for this degenerate, fascist dictator and terrorist loving tool.
AUINSC on April 15, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Ed Koch, then and now, always a good guy
Entelechy on April 15, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Traitor.
fossten on April 15, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Jimmy, be careful which one you hug. He might be wearin’ one of those suicide vest thingys…
john1schn on April 16, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Hear bloody hear.
Cheers.
Hawkins1701 on April 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Same here: Pea nut.
argos on April 16, 2008 at 10:23 AM
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