From South Park….”Its coming right for us” (insert your personal favorite gunfire report) NEXT!!!!!

I R A Darth Aggie on April 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM

No one in GTMO was caught on us soil if we did catch them there they would be in the civilian system.

These are folks caught on the battlefield or turned over to us by other countries.

krakatoa on April 14, 2008 at 1:18 PM

Excellent plan. This is where most of them were caught.

However the ones we got from other countries could be a problem.

We didn’t. Emphasis above mine, BTW, as that’s the key.

Not for very long, anyway. Since they where captured in civilian garb, they were spies, and treated as such.

FDR gave them a nice military tribunal, then hung ‘em high. That’s what you do with spies, you hang ‘em. No appeals, no review, no oversight.

Where did we house the Nazis we captured on our soil during WWII? I know it was fewer, but we didn’t send them to Cuba, at least I don’t think we did.

funky chicken on April 14, 2008 at 2:31 PM

I know a former German Naval POW from WWII and he was held in a POW camp here in Arizona (middle of Phoenix) that is currently a National Guard Station.

The reason (IMHO) we don’t house them here in the US is because of the left/moonbat insistence on treating the GWOT as a police action and not a war, e.g., insisting the US provide habeas corpus, Miranda rights, and civilian trials as if the detainees are US citizens and are being denied their “rights.”

Bottom line is as long as the left/moonbats insist on labeling the GWOT as a “police action” and not a war and as long as they see the detainees as civilians and not what they truly are (illegal enemy combatants) the detainees should stay in Gitmo and not be brought here to stand trial in a civilian court where they would more than likely be released to do harm to us or our military again.

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My point is, they are already doing all that stuff.

funky chicken on April 14, 2008 at 3:20 PM

Not with the standing they would sudddenly have conferred upon them.

gotta go….

funky chicken on April 14, 2008 at 3:20 PM

Discussion appreciated. Have a great afternoon/evening.

I just don’t see where A leads automatically to B, unless we have a President Obama with Koh and his ilk appointed to SCOTUS.

If we’re going to be stuck with them for life, like I said, we should make it as easy and cheap as possible for ourselves.

funky chicken on April 14, 2008 at 2:54 PM

There is much more potential for waste of money and manpower if they step foot on our soil. I just don’t think you are acknowledging the consequences that the Ed’s post (reread it), not to mention the Supreme Court, warned about. If your concerns are financial and logistical, you should consider who benefits here:

1. Lawyers who will flood the administration and the military with suits on behalf of

2. illegal enemy combatants;

3. Leftist/Pacifist politicians both here and abroad who will invent a bonanza of new opportunities to propagandize this country’s foreign and domestic policies, all on behalf of

4. illegal enemy combatants.

Let them bring their silly protests to Kansas, kind of like they brought them to the area outside of Bush’s ranch for a summer. It’s just not that glamorous, and doesn’t make for such good TV as wailing about gitmo.

I don’t think Karzai, Maliki, or (brain fart) Musharraf’s successor will take them, is the problem. We’re stuck with em. I’d be happy to give them the China treatment (single bullet, base of skull) but that’s just a fantasy. If we’re going to be stuck with them for life, like I said, we should make it as easy and cheap as possible for ourselves.

Afghanistan
Pakistan
Iraq

and let the foriegn fighters take their chances with the justice system of those countries.

I suspect they’ll ask to stay at Club Gitmo.

The important issue is defeating the democrats.

No, the important issue is saving our republic, IMAO!

funky chicken on April 14, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Yeah, but if they’re freed or break out, at least they’d be in SF.

Actually… if we had to let them go free, couldn’t we release them in Guam, or up in Alaskan wilderness.

The guards in the military prison in Leavenworth are US Marines. I believe they can handle this problem. One of my friends from way back did a tour as a guard there.

Yeah, I know a previous guard at Gitmo and 2 marines stationed at Leavenworth. Gitmo Guard NEVER moaned and complained about your assertions

We have to fly/ship food there. The mil guards are away from their families. We have to keep medical personnel there. It’s a headache in lots of ways.

Instead he was darn proud of the job they were doing and they aren’t the only military personnel away from their families.
2 Marine Guards at Leavenworth (massive complex with tons of different operations going on there) laughed at the THOUGHT of having the terrorists there. As the one said, “They are probably have McVeigh type dreams of getting into Leavenworth.”

McCain isn’t gonna had these charming fellows their walking papers and green cards.

Your rose colored glasses about McShame are as destructive as the Obamaites vision of their empty suit politician, imho.

funky chicken on April 14, 2008 at 2:33 PM

OK let me come at it from a different angle. I oppose ceding any point to the libs. It has nothing to do some romance with GTMO. It has do do with swatting the camel’s nose away from my dadgum tent.

The important issue is defeating the democrats. Where we imprison scum doesn’t concern me all that much. They are our “guests” for life from what I can see, so we may as well make it as easy to house them as possible. Keeping them forever in a tiny enclave that is logistically challenging to maintain is more work than they deserve.