7All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, 8but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God’s likeness. 10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. 11Can both fresh water and salt[a] water flow from the same spring? 12My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water. – James 3:7-12

Brings to mind another scripture verse about the Word of God being a double-edged sword…

To what religion does Obama cling? To Jeremiah Wright, who asks God to d@mn America and only love black people? Is Obama’s “god” an avenger, like a gun?

How about a T-shirt idea:

Obama for Dummies, God-Clingers for McCain!

Perhaps what frustrates Obama and the fellow liberals is that most believers follow Psalm 31:6, and would rather trust in the Lord than cling to the statists that promise Utopia through government control of their lives.

How can we get rid of statist cling?

Well! Controversy over! There is no mystery here. Except for people who have been hiding in caves or living in denial, it’s pretty widely understood that a substantial number of those voters — in Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia and elsewhere……

Period.

1) Typical White Person Too Stupid to Vote for Obama.

2) Typical White Neanderthals for Clinton.

3) Typical White Knuckledraggers for McCain.

4) Typical White False-Consciousness Republican.

“Obama’s not spinning out of this one, this isn’t a skid, it’s not hydroplaning; this is a head-on collision with a tree at 75 mph.”
SuperCool on April 15, 2008 at 6:54 AM

Maybe. But Obama will claim the tree bamboozled him.

Guns – Bad
Religion – Good
Racism – Bad
Anti-Immigrant – Bad
Anti-Trade Sentiment – Bad

Which of these things is not like the other? The only way this squares is if Religion is also considered “Bad”, which confirms the suspicion small-town voters have always had about the Liberal elites. Doctrinaire Leftists have always derided religious faith as counter-revolutionary, and have sought to replace the individual’s faith in God with reliance on the State, but when they need to pretend to be faithful for politcal purposes, they are willing to do so. From the racist/religious hash of Black Liberation Theology to the rationalizations of the Sandanista’s Liberation Theology to Bill Clinton carrying around a 10-pound Bible through Monicagate, the Left has been only too happy to exploit religious symbols and sentiments for short-term gain. But small-town voters see these things, compare them to the faith they cling to, and know that they are false.

Of course, Obama further confuses the issue by labeling anti-immigrant and anti-trade sentiments bad, when about half the time he is using anti-immigrant and anti-trade rhetoric, depending on whom he is talking to at the time.

===I’ve made misstatements in the past and I’m going to make misstatements in the future===

Now, THERE’s a level of judgement and capability to look for in presidential timber…. /s

Cowardice is such a tiny word, no cause for discomfort.

The law can be objective, judgments on good and evil are always rather subjective and prone to bias.

You can enforce the law without being a Church Lady, techno.

alphie on April 15, 2008 at 1:53 AM

Church Lady? Not making the connection. I didn’t dance, mention… SATAN?!

What’s the matter alph? That cowardice remark make you uncomfortable?

Step away from the bong, lil’ alphie. Sounds like you’ve had enough.

You got some ’splainin’ to do, Obama!

Keep ’splainin’, Barry.

It gets better each time.

You can enforce the law…

alphie on April 15, 2008 at 1:53 AM

Absent the concepts of good and evil there is no need for law, only anarchy.

Include me out of your circle of snobs, please.

alphie on April 15, 2008 at 12:47 AM

By all means. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

There is evil in the world. Wishing it were not so, or denying it exists is unwise at best. And appeasing it due to cowardice and ignorance to try to claim moral superiority is dispicable.

Anyone who passes moral judgment on other people, divides humanity in good and evil…they’re elitists.

alphie on April 15, 2008 at 12:47 AM

My Websters dictionary defines Elitism as:
Elitism: 1. a. Belief in rule by elite. b. Domination or rule by an elite. 2. A sense of being part of an elite.

Elite: 1. a. The best or superior members of a society or group. b. A small, privileged, and often powerful group. 2. A size of type on a typewriter, equal to 12 characters.

It doesn’t mention anything about passing judgment on or dividing people into good and evil. Elite and elitism is a matter of power and privilege. If it’s about dividing people, it’s about dividing them into a small group of people that matter and the rest that don’t.

Anyone who passes moral judgment on other people, divides humanity in good and evil…they’re elitists.

Include me out of your circle of snobs, please.

I think dmann is not necessarily disagreeing with us,

Vntnrse on April 14, 2008 at 11:44 PM

No, I don’t thinks so. I’ve got nothing against dmann, I just think that a lot of people here seem to prefer to overlook McCain’s faults or are hesitant to voice them because he is better than the alternative. They don’t want to diminish his chances… however I’m not sure this is necessarily a correct appraisal of the circumstances.

If McCain believes that conservatives have already ceded their support to him then he is likely to move even further to the left, but if he knows our support is grudging and conditional he may conclude that jumping back on the liberal bandwagon to embark on a new adventure is a risky proposition that may do more harm than good.

McCain isn’t entitled to my vote; he’s going to have to earn it. And if I end up voting for McCain I want him to understand that it should not be mistaken as an endorsement of McCain and his policies, especially amnesty. If everybody is silent about their objections it will only strengthen his inevitable claim, in the event that he wins, that he has an amnesty mandate.

Let’s make him work for our votes. I’m far from ready to fall into line behind McCain.

My definition of “bitter”… how I feel about the fact that they both can’t lose.

On the language front, I believe “cling” is at least vaguely negative, unless rescued by context. It’s interesting that the King James translators never once used it. Many of the given references above use the word “cleave” instead. But then, I’ve noticed the King James translators were generally more precise in their work than most modern translations.

Obama said last week at a fundraiser that decades of lost jobs and unfulfilled promises from Washington have left some Pennsylvanians “bitter.” He said they were “clinging to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”