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		<title>By: TheSitRep</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheSitRep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things to boycott:

1. Olympics Check
2. Miller Beer Check
3. Absolut Check
4. Landry&#039;s Restaurants Check
4. CBS Check
6. MSNBC Check

anything else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things to boycott:</p>
<p>1. Olympics Check<br />
2. Miller Beer Check<br />
3. Absolut Check<br />
4. Landry&#8217;s Restaurants Check<br />
4. CBS Check<br />
6. MSNBC Check</p>
<p>anything else?</p>
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		<title>By: dave742</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave742</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romeo:
It is true that Israel wanted Iran to be first for their US puppet military to attack, but for several reasons Iraq was going to be a quick stepping stone to that. Iraq turned out to be more than a stepping stone, but the true goal of Iran is certainly on the list. All this is very clear, even to the centrist &quot;morons&quot;/Univerity of Chicago professors Mearsheimer and Walt (I know, they are anti-Semites). More and more people are starting to see this reality, but there will always be extremists who will never be able to.

The Israeli expansion into Lebanon would supposedly start soon after Iran, but I doubt it will get that far. The US will implode after the Iran invasion, and Israel soon after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romeo:<br />
It is true that Israel wanted Iran to be first for their US puppet military to attack, but for several reasons Iraq was going to be a quick stepping stone to that. Iraq turned out to be more than a stepping stone, but the true goal of Iran is certainly on the list. All this is very clear, even to the centrist &#8220;morons&#8221;/Univerity of Chicago professors Mearsheimer and Walt (I know, they are anti-Semites). More and more people are starting to see this reality, but there will always be extremists who will never be able to.</p>
<p>The Israeli expansion into Lebanon would supposedly start soon after Iran, but I doubt it will get that far. The US will implode after the Iran invasion, and Israel soon after.</p>
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		<title>By: jdkchem</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdkchem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Romeo13 on April 13, 2008 at 9:29 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s &quot;dave&quot; logic.  Comparatively blond logic is more intelligent and rational.

To answer your question, dense would be a step up.  Yet dave continues to make moronic comments then complains when he is called a moron.

Note to dave, when you are a propaganda tool for terrorists and dictators do not act surprised when you are labeled a retard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Romeo13 on April 13, 2008 at 9:29 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;dave&#8221; logic.  Comparatively blond logic is more intelligent and rational.</p>
<p>To answer your question, dense would be a step up.  Yet dave continues to make moronic comments then complains when he is called a moron.</p>
<p>Note to dave, when you are a propaganda tool for terrorists and dictators do not act surprised when you are labeled a retard.</p>
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		<title>By: p40tiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>p40tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaky.  Shaky evidence (a photo used from an unrelated event used as evidence), shaky source (an anti-communist activist who lives in Japan--Mr. Ching), and shaky reporting (This &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; be a photo, this guy &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; be a Chinese agent, etc.)  Lots of shaky stuff with this post.

Have conservatives become as dense, close-minded, and &quot;seeing only what we want to see&quot; as the lefties?  This is beneath us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaky.  Shaky evidence (a photo used from an unrelated event used as evidence), shaky source (an anti-communist activist who lives in Japan&#8211;Mr. Ching), and shaky reporting (This <em>could</em> be a photo, this guy <em>could</em> be a Chinese agent, etc.)  Lots of shaky stuff with this post.</p>
<p>Have conservatives become as dense, close-minded, and &#8220;seeing only what we want to see&#8221; as the lefties?  This is beneath us.</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romeo13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;dave742 on April 13, 2008 at 6:22 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, its your contention that we invaded Iraq to help ISRAEL?

Are you dense?  Saddam was in standoff mode against his neighbors, including Iran (who calls for the destruction of Israel).

Why would Israel want to take a weak secular state, and have us invade it?  When the real threat to Israel is coming from Syria and Iran?  You know, the guys who arm Hezbollah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>dave742 on April 13, 2008 at 6:22 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>So, its your contention that we invaded Iraq to help ISRAEL?</p>
<p>Are you dense?  Saddam was in standoff mode against his neighbors, including Iran (who calls for the destruction of Israel).</p>
<p>Why would Israel want to take a weak secular state, and have us invade it?  When the real threat to Israel is coming from Syria and Iran?  You know, the guys who arm Hezbollah?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

I hate to say it but I think Dafydd might have this one wrong. I don&#039;t speak or read any Chinese but I can see that in the background of that shot there are two people with large Tibetan flags draped around their backs. So I&#039;m not sure how that would qualify as a pro-China group.

I&#039;ve highlighted them &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.verumserum.com/?page_id=1823&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>I hate to say it but I think Dafydd might have this one wrong. I don&#8217;t speak or read any Chinese but I can see that in the background of that shot there are two people with large Tibetan flags draped around their backs. So I&#8217;m not sure how that would qualify as a pro-China group.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve highlighted them <a href="http://www.verumserum.com/?page_id=1823" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Seaberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seaberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Chakra Hammer on April 13, 2008 

Is it just me, or does this picture look photoshopped?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It is starting to look like it was photoshopped to me. Add red to the big flag...and, that girl up front sure looks out of place, if not, then that red flag she has could be photoshopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Chakra Hammer on April 13, 2008 </p>
<p>Is it just me, or does this picture look photoshopped?</p></blockquote>
<p>It is starting to look like it was photoshopped to me. Add red to the big flag&#8230;and, that girl up front sure looks out of place, if not, then that red flag she has could be photoshopped.</p>
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		<title>By: dave742</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave742</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vntnrse:
I agree.

Romeo13:
&lt;blockquote&gt;War for Oil?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I never thought the war had anything to do with oil. The war is for Israel. Israel needs to break up any strong states in the region so it can proceed with its expansion. OBL brought this up 10 years ago, and now we are hearing more and more about the partioning of Iraq into 3 smaller states. I guess it was a lucky guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vntnrse:<br />
I agree.</p>
<p>Romeo13:</p>
<blockquote><p>War for Oil?</p></blockquote>
<p>I never thought the war had anything to do with oil. The war is for Israel. Israel needs to break up any strong states in the region so it can proceed with its expansion. OBL brought this up 10 years ago, and now we are hearing more and more about the partioning of Iraq into 3 smaller states. I guess it was a lucky guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Vntnrse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vntnrse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As for the agent provocateur, it definitely looks like that’s what is happening in this case. Of course, because you find one agent does not mean all the violence is due to Chinese agents.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t disagree with you here and I&#039;m not saying that photos don&#039;t lie in the age of photoshop.  Nor do I think that all of the violence is the fault of the Chinese, but in my opinion (as a nurse, not as a photoshop expert) the original photo looks too much like a collusive incident for me to be comfortable believing that of ALL of the violence happening there, that some is not staged, either.  It would be too convenient and I wouldn&#039;t put it past ANY government not to take advantage of a situation like this.  That&#039;s all I&#039;m saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As for the agent provocateur, it definitely looks like that’s what is happening in this case. Of course, because you find one agent does not mean all the violence is due to Chinese agents.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with you here and I&#8217;m not saying that photos don&#8217;t lie in the age of photoshop.  Nor do I think that all of the violence is the fault of the Chinese, but in my opinion (as a nurse, not as a photoshop expert) the original photo looks too much like a collusive incident for me to be comfortable believing that of ALL of the violence happening there, that some is not staged, either.  It would be too convenient and I wouldn&#8217;t put it past ANY government not to take advantage of a situation like this.  That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-tex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex-tex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just curious-- How do we KNOW that this is the case???
&lt;blockquote&gt;only he wasn’t marching with Tibetan supporters.  Dafydd has the photograph that clearly shows him as a supporter of the Beijing contingent in Paris, arriving at the parade under the Communist China flag — wearing his Tibet bandana.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And that &lt;strong&gt;THIS&lt;/strong&gt; is not what we are seeing in the picture??
&lt;blockquote&gt;only he wasn’t marching with &lt;strike&gt;Tibetan&lt;/strike&gt; Chinese supporters.  Dafydd has the photograph that clearly shows him as a supporter of the &lt;strike&gt;Beijing&lt;/strike&gt; Tibetan Protesters (who are entering under the camoflauge of the Communist China flag) — wearing his Tibet bandana.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

just wonderin&#039; how we are &lt;strong&gt;sure&lt;/strong&gt;, exactly??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just curious&#8211; How do we KNOW that this is the case???</p>
<blockquote><p>only he wasn’t marching with Tibetan supporters.  Dafydd has the photograph that clearly shows him as a supporter of the Beijing contingent in Paris, arriving at the parade under the Communist China flag — wearing his Tibet bandana.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that <strong>THIS</strong> is not what we are seeing in the picture??</p>
<blockquote><p>only he wasn’t marching with <strike>Tibetan</strike> Chinese supporters.  Dafydd has the photograph that clearly shows him as a supporter of the <strike>Beijing</strike> Tibetan Protesters (who are entering under the camoflauge of the Communist China flag) — wearing his Tibet bandana.</p></blockquote>
<p>just wonderin&#8217; how we are <strong>sure</strong>, exactly??</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Still, the Tibetan issue should not be part of the Olympics, and it is not China who has made it the issue.&lt;/i&gt;

Really?

Were the Tibetens the ones who massacred dozens of individuals and arrested hundreds of people in a country they&#039;ve been illegally occupying for the past five decades?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Still, the Tibetan issue should not be part of the Olympics, and it is not China who has made it the issue.</i></p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>Were the Tibetens the ones who massacred dozens of individuals and arrested hundreds of people in a country they&#8217;ve been illegally occupying for the past five decades?</p>
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		<title>By: bikermailman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bikermailman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But I don’t think Americans collectively understand the Chinese threat. And I don’t think we will anytime soon.
The Race Card on April 13, 2008 at 4:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The whole won&#039;t understand it until they dump our dollars, move with the Iranians and Venezualans, and block our access to the Panama Canal.  Not going to happen yet, their economy and military aren&#039;t there yet.  But it will...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But I don’t think Americans collectively understand the Chinese threat. And I don’t think we will anytime soon.<br />
The Race Card on April 13, 2008 at 4:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>The whole won&#8217;t understand it until they dump our dollars, move with the Iranians and Venezualans, and block our access to the Panama Canal.  Not going to happen yet, their economy and military aren&#8217;t there yet.  But it will&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dave742</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave742</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vntnrse:
I was not making a comment about the specifics of this thread, but was merely turning the situation around. Anyone who brings up a suggestion about Usrael doing anything similar is immediately branded a &quot;retard&quot;. I have yet to meet anyone who believes the government version of 9/11 who as actually researched the issue. As soon as you ask them questions, they ignore you and call you a retard. I turned it around and played the Chinese government apologist who doesn&#039;t say a word about the issue but simply calls the people who believes the story names.
As for what I think of the issue, I am not too impressed by a photo of the Chinese army with monk robes. Besides the other issues already addressed, I doubt if they would parade around with the robes in public if they were being used for the purposes described.
As for the agent provocateur, it definitely looks like that&#039;s what is happening in this case. Of course, because you find one agent does not mean all the violence is due to Chinese agents. This is another technique used by apologists. (If you can find one soldier who lied about an event in Iraq, that means all negative stories told by soldiers about Iraq are lies). All governments do this type of thing. Not just &quot;evil&quot; ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vntnrse:<br />
I was not making a comment about the specifics of this thread, but was merely turning the situation around. Anyone who brings up a suggestion about Usrael doing anything similar is immediately branded a &#8220;retard&#8221;. I have yet to meet anyone who believes the government version of 9/11 who as actually researched the issue. As soon as you ask them questions, they ignore you and call you a retard. I turned it around and played the Chinese government apologist who doesn&#8217;t say a word about the issue but simply calls the people who believes the story names.<br />
As for what I think of the issue, I am not too impressed by a photo of the Chinese army with monk robes. Besides the other issues already addressed, I doubt if they would parade around with the robes in public if they were being used for the purposes described.<br />
As for the agent provocateur, it definitely looks like that&#8217;s what is happening in this case. Of course, because you find one agent does not mean all the violence is due to Chinese agents. This is another technique used by apologists. (If you can find one soldier who lied about an event in Iraq, that means all negative stories told by soldiers about Iraq are lies). All governments do this type of thing. Not just &#8220;evil&#8221; ones.</p>
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		<title>By: The Race Card</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Race Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would saying &quot;Fuck China!&quot; get me banned? Should it?
***

I have never felt as useless as I do to help my country as I do against China. We have the greatest military in history. We have the bravest soldiers. 

But I don&#039;t think Americans collectively understand the Chinese threat. And I don&#039;t think we will anytime soon. As a nation we are addicted to the conveniences of capitalism. Freedom is another insidious opiate to the masses.

That is not to say that freedom is bad. Rather it is so damned good and such a blessing that we cannot imagine life without it. I would die sooner of servitude than of asphyxiation.

It&#039;s like we get so damned comfortable and set in our ways that they seem unshakable. If we don&#039;t prepare for the long-term Chinese threat, we will be sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would saying &#8220;Fuck China!&#8221; get me banned? Should it?<br />
***</p>
<p>I have never felt as useless as I do to help my country as I do against China. We have the greatest military in history. We have the bravest soldiers. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think Americans collectively understand the Chinese threat. And I don&#8217;t think we will anytime soon. As a nation we are addicted to the conveniences of capitalism. Freedom is another insidious opiate to the masses.</p>
<p>That is not to say that freedom is bad. Rather it is so damned good and such a blessing that we cannot imagine life without it. I would die sooner of servitude than of asphyxiation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like we get so damned comfortable and set in our ways that they seem unshakable. If we don&#8217;t prepare for the long-term Chinese threat, we will be sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>crosspatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A commenter at Big Lizards raises a valid issue:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually, if you read Chinese, you&#039;ll know that the Chinese blogosphere is outraged that the second picture of Chinese soldiers with monk&#039;s robes is being presented as anything at all - it is apparently from a movie set (the movie title translates to &quot;Legend of Tian Mai&quot; - it&#039;s in imdb as The Touch). They also note that the age of the photo - i.e. being from a movie set several years ago and not from this March - is clear from the outdated and inconsistent uniforms on the soldiers, not to mention the fact that they are wearing summer uniforms when in March in Tibet it is still time for winter dress.
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Apparently the picture of the troops with monk uniforms is several years old and from a different context.

Who is spoofing who here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A commenter at Big Lizards raises a valid issue:</p>
<blockquote><p>Actually, if you read Chinese, you&#8217;ll know that the Chinese blogosphere is outraged that the second picture of Chinese soldiers with monk&#8217;s robes is being presented as anything at all &#8211; it is apparently from a movie set (the movie title translates to &#8220;Legend of Tian Mai&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s in imdb as The Touch). They also note that the age of the photo &#8211; i.e. being from a movie set several years ago and not from this March &#8211; is clear from the outdated and inconsistent uniforms on the soldiers, not to mention the fact that they are wearing summer uniforms when in March in Tibet it is still time for winter dress.
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<p>Apparently the picture of the troops with monk uniforms is several years old and from a different context.</p>
<p>Who is spoofing who here?</p>
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		<title>By: shaken</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pacification before the Games. For Tibetans, &lt;i&gt;and Islamists&lt;/i&gt; to take note. It&#039;s important for continuity of trade that the Games proceed without difficult HR issues being played out in front of the trading partners&#039; media. Machiavellian, and pragmatic.

What we should be thinking about is what will China do once it has completed its evisceration of the west&#039;s economies? That China is about done with us will be witnessed by its decreasing need to commit its HR violations covertly. Eventually, they won&#039;t need to bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pacification before the Games. For Tibetans, <i>and Islamists</i> to take note. It&#8217;s important for continuity of trade that the Games proceed without difficult HR issues being played out in front of the trading partners&#8217; media. Machiavellian, and pragmatic.</p>
<p>What we should be thinking about is what will China do once it has completed its evisceration of the west&#8217;s economies? That China is about done with us will be witnessed by its decreasing need to commit its HR violations covertly. Eventually, they won&#8217;t need to bother.</p>
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		<title>By: Seven Percent Solution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seven Percent Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;China is beginning to discover what Americans -- Dan Rather in particular -- learned to their chagrin some years ago: We live in the age of new media; and in this epoch, we know that cameras lie all the time. They lie about the &quot;death&quot; of a Palestinian boy; they lie about exploding trucks and fraudulent Air National Guard memos... and they can most certainly lie about who really attacked a beautiful, young girl in a wheelchair.

But those infernal recording devices have two edges; where one photo lies, another can reveal the truth.

Truth to the Left is like Kryptonite to Superman. All the lackeys, minions, and lickspittles of Hu Jintao will never be able to live down this blow to their carefully constructed public image -- not just the violence itself, but the repugnant way they have tried to shift the blame to the very victims of that violence.

I wonder; are they starting to regret getting the Olympics after all? - Hatched by Sachi on this day, April 13, 2008,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sachi, if your reading Hot Air, you nailed it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>China is beginning to discover what Americans &#8212; Dan Rather in particular &#8212; learned to their chagrin some years ago: We live in the age of new media; and in this epoch, we know that cameras lie all the time. They lie about the &#8220;death&#8221; of a Palestinian boy; they lie about exploding trucks and fraudulent Air National Guard memos&#8230; and they can most certainly lie about who really attacked a beautiful, young girl in a wheelchair.</p>
<p>But those infernal recording devices have two edges; where one photo lies, another can reveal the truth.</p>
<p>Truth to the Left is like Kryptonite to Superman. All the lackeys, minions, and lickspittles of Hu Jintao will never be able to live down this blow to their carefully constructed public image &#8212; not just the violence itself, but the repugnant way they have tried to shift the blame to the very victims of that violence.</p>
<p>I wonder; are they starting to regret getting the Olympics after all? &#8211; Hatched by Sachi on this day, April 13, 2008,</p></blockquote>
<p>Sachi, if your reading Hot Air, you nailed it!</p>
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		<title>By: dedalus</title>
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		<dc:creator>dedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I remember reading someone here comment that it wasn’t all China’s fault and that the Tibeteans were acting out too.

Why anyone would trust the Chinese government is beyond me.

Tim Burton on April 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Tibetans likely are acting out.  It seems natural if you view your country is being occupied by a foreign invader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I remember reading someone here comment that it wasn’t all China’s fault and that the Tibeteans were acting out too.</p>
<p>Why anyone would trust the Chinese government is beyond me.</p>
<p>Tim Burton on April 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>The Tibetans likely are acting out.  It seems natural if you view your country is being occupied by a foreign invader.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Burton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading someone here comment that it wasn&#039;t all China&#039;s fault and that the Tibeteans were acting out too.

Why anyone would trust the Chinese government is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading someone here comment that it wasn&#8217;t all China&#8217;s fault and that the Tibeteans were acting out too.</p>
<p>Why anyone would trust the Chinese government is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chakra Hammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chakra Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://biglizards.net/Graphics/ForegroundPix/ChineseFakeTibetanWithFriends.jpg

Is it just me, or does this picture look photoshopped?

Photoshopped very well, but still photoshopped, especially the woman in the front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://biglizards.net/Graphics/ForegroundPix/ChineseFakeTibetanWithFriends.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://biglizards.net/Graphics/ForegroundPix/ChineseFakeTibetanWithFriends.jpg</a></p>
<p>Is it just me, or does this picture look photoshopped?</p>
<p>Photoshopped very well, but still photoshopped, especially the woman in the front.</p>
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		<title>By: dmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also note the similarity between this guy&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Typical Chinese person.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also note the similarity between this guy</p></blockquote>
<p>Typical Chinese person&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Dr B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;is clear from the outdated and inconsistent uniforms on the soldiers, not to mention the fact that they are wearing summer uniforms when in March in Tibet it is still time for winter dress.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As I noted &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ET0NweFoc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in this video&lt;/a&gt;, there is no difference between those uniforms and the uniforms of soldiers in photos from Tibet. No patches on the right arm and no winter dress coats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>is clear from the outdated and inconsistent uniforms on the soldiers, not to mention the fact that they are wearing summer uniforms when in March in Tibet it is still time for winter dress.</p></blockquote>
<p>As I noted <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ET0NweFoc" rel="nofollow">in this video</a>, there is no difference between those uniforms and the uniforms of soldiers in photos from Tibet. No patches on the right arm and no winter dress coats.</p>
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		<title>By: MB4</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article3724081.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The flame of democracy fading

&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;i&gt;The most significant defeat of all has been in China, where the success of limited capitalism has not been matched by political freedom. Two decades on, and three times as rich as it was, China seems less susceptible to real change than it did when the students lit up Tiananmen Square in 1989.
China’s success is no longer seen as a temporary aberration, a sort of unsustainable balancing act that would sooner or later collapse. It is viewed increasingly by ambitious autocrats everywhere as an alternative model to the vexingly unpredictable Western version. Its biggest recruit is Vladimir Putin’s Russia, which steadily tightens its grip on the reins of political power as its business leaders exploit the lucrative opportunities of free global markets.

Today China, with its vast store of US Treasury bonds has American prosperity in its grip. Russia, with its stranglehold on continental energy resources, can intimidate Europeans. That’s why George Bush would never boycott the Beijing Olympics and why the Europeans, in a cringing genuflection to Russian“concerns”, recoiled energetically last week from proposals to expand Nato.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article3724081.ece" rel="nofollow">The flame of democracy fading</p>
<p></a> </p>
<p><i>The most significant defeat of all has been in China, where the success of limited capitalism has not been matched by political freedom. Two decades on, and three times as rich as it was, China seems less susceptible to real change than it did when the students lit up Tiananmen Square in 1989.<br />
China’s success is no longer seen as a temporary aberration, a sort of unsustainable balancing act that would sooner or later collapse. It is viewed increasingly by ambitious autocrats everywhere as an alternative model to the vexingly unpredictable Western version. Its biggest recruit is Vladimir Putin’s Russia, which steadily tightens its grip on the reins of political power as its business leaders exploit the lucrative opportunities of free global markets.</p>
<p>Today China, with its vast store of US Treasury bonds has American prosperity in its grip. Russia, with its stranglehold on continental energy resources, can intimidate Europeans. That’s why George Bush would never boycott the Beijing Olympics and why the Europeans, in a cringing genuflection to Russian“concerns”, recoiled energetically last week from proposals to expand Nato.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Seaberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seaberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like that picture of Chinese soldiers with monk&#039;s robes is actually from around 2001-2002:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...it is apparently from a movie set (the movie title translates to &quot;Legend of Tian Mai&quot; - it&#039;s in imdb as The Touch). They also note that the age of the photo - i.e. being from a movie set several years ago and not from this March - is clear from the outdated and inconsistent uniforms on the soldiers, not to mention the fact that they are wearing summer uniforms when in March in Tibet it is still time for winter dress.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I wish they would keep protestors and all this Tibet protesting out of the Olympics...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like that picture of Chinese soldiers with monk&#8217;s robes is actually from around 2001-2002:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;it is apparently from a movie set (the movie title translates to &#8220;Legend of Tian Mai&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s in imdb as The Touch). They also note that the age of the photo &#8211; i.e. being from a movie set several years ago and not from this March &#8211; is clear from the outdated and inconsistent uniforms on the soldiers, not to mention the fact that they are wearing summer uniforms when in March in Tibet it is still time for winter dress.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wish they would keep protestors and all this Tibet protesting out of the Olympics&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernGent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernGent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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