I am frankly stunned that a college that once stood for traditional values and morality for so many years has succumbed to the liberal disease

Sounds like my alma mater.

The professor may be doing so, but to a lesser extent than the citizens of Nevada who have allowed their counties to legalize it and collect fees from the brothels

dedalus on April 13, 2008 at 12:14 PM

No argument here. You raise a whole other issue. It is legal in Nevada. I certainly don’t agree with it, but as a believer in state’s rights, if this is what the voters of Nevada want, fine. I guess the market will decide if the college has hurt it’s standing and tarnished its image.

We want people of high moral and ethical character coming out of our colleges and universities, and I just fail see where “learning about” this “profession”, however it’s framed, fits into the context of a higher education. I feel that these students were done a disservice on so many levels.

fourstringfuror on April 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Clearly we arent talking about illegal prostitution, sine we are referring to legal brothels in Nevada. You say it is immoral which pretty clearly implies that you think it should not be legal anywhere, let try to keep up with the rest of the group children, dont be distracted by the pretty straw men.

As for your lame comparison of a cat house to my church, I’m not really sure where you’re going with that, and I’m not really sure I care. I don’t visit this site to argue with trolls, and I don’t plan to start.

My point is, what other people do with their money and other consenting adults is and ought to be no more your business than what you do with your money is to me, there was no comparison of a cat house to your church, so your indignation wont fly.

Neither will your ad hominem attack on me as a troll. Have a lovely day.

I guess those student’s parents are enjoying seeing their hard earn money being thrown down a rat-hole.

oldelpasoan on April 13, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Apparently, the parents of the students in the class didn’t. Probably there were extra travel expenses involved that the students or parents paid.

The school costs about $35,000 a year. I’ve always wondered how many parents weigh the alternative of investing $150,000 into a business that their chilren would eventually own, rather than invest in college.

What is your reasoning for that?

Is the prostitutes body your body to sell? Is the Johns money your money to tell him how to spend it?

OK then. I think that your church is immoral and you should not be allowed to give your hard earned money to it…

Squid Shark on April 13, 2008 at 9:53 AM

My reasoning for what? Prosecuting whores for prostitution and johns for soliciting? It’s the law in the vast majority of places – that’s my reasoning. As for your lame comparison of a cat house to my church, I’m not really sure where you’re going with that, and I’m not really sure I care. I don’t visit this site to argue with trolls, and I don’t plan to start.

I wonder how much money comes from those fees.

Squid Shark on April 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM

It varies from county to county. A license to run a brothel can cost $100,000 annually. Also, the owners file 1099’s to the federal government which then collects income tax and probably FICA.

Should states have the right to allow such activity? Should the federal government step in and stop them? Should the federal government profit from the activity? Questions that are interesting enough for a college classroom.

dedalus on April 13, 2008 at 12:14 PM

I wonder how much money comes from those fees.

Perhaps, but I doubt it. They may not be “putting it on a pedestal”, but, they are legitimizing it to an extent.

labrat on April 13, 2008 at 3:36 AM

The professor may be doing so, but to a lesser extent than the citizens of Nevada who have allowed their counties to legalize it and collect fees from the brothels. Perhaps the field trip could include visits with members of the state legislature who deal with decisions on whether to keep it legal or modify the regulations.

Vegas field trips as part of the “academic experience.”

I did not know that teaching stupidity could ever become part of curriculum.

Whores, and the johns who support them, need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law each and every time. No exceptions.

What is your reasoning for that?

Is the prostitutes body your body to sell? Is the Johns money your money to tell him how to spend it?

OK then. I think that your church is immoral and you should not be allowed to give your hard earned money to it…

E9RET on April 13, 2008 at 9:27 AM

They do :)

What was the answer? it doesn’t say

Merely one professional to another professional inquiry…..

This is consumerism dedicated to liberating lonely working class johns from their money

Its much cheaper in Nevada, only reson it is so expensive everywhere else is because it is a black market industry, like drugs.

I dont thick there should have been a field trip, but her high-horse “morality” lecture is not the right way to look at this.

fourstringfuror on April 13, 2008 at 2:40 AM

Agreed. Like the old riverboat captain said: “I don’t have to know where all the rocks, in the river, are; I only have to know where the channel is.”

Perhaps it does the opposite.

dedalus on April 13, 2008 at 1:39 AM

Perhaps, but I doubt it. They may not be “putting it on a pedestal”, but, they are legitimizing it to an extent.

Try again :)

mycowardice on April 13, 2008 at 1:10 AM

Okay, well, I suppose I’m just a bit puzzled at how the conversation on this topic has evolved.

I pity those women, to an extent, but my conscience would be violated if I even went near a place like that; not to mention the reproach that I would feel I had brought on my family and fellow Christians.

Try again :)

mycowardice on April 13, 2008 at 1:10 AM

I pity your children.

I don’t need to touch a hot stove to know it will burn my hand. I don’t need to visit a whore house to know prostitution is immoral.

Or perhaps, like Obama, you think this is a great opportunity to have a “national discussion,” or “engage in dialogue” so we can move past all this misogynist, sexist sentiment?

Whores, and the johns who support them, need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law each and every time. No exceptions.

One thing we all might be missinng is that Ms. Helsey is writing to demonstrate how far left the academic pendulum has swung at Randolph. If any of you want to visit the ol’ cat house, you’re welcome to do so, but there is absolutely no higher education to be gained that can’t be had at any other place of business. It’s quite obvious what the goal of the inclusion of prostitution in this course is, and like others, I want to know when they’re going to go to a crack house. When are they going to take these kids to cock fights? Dog fights? When, oh when, are they going to put the girls in burkas and leave them in a mosque? After all, it’s all “American culture,” right? It’s all the same, right?

Either way, bull’s eye.