Prostitution 101: What Colleges Are Really Teaching Students
posted at 11:35 am on April 12, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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After reading my post about Randolph College’s field trip to a Nevada brothel to study American consumerism, Randolph junior Catherine Helsley wrote an extraordinary essay about what such a trip reveals about the decline of values in Academia. Ms. Helsley allowed me to share it with Hot Air readers.
As a contemporary American college student, I am rarely shocked by the daily dose of leftist viewpoints that I am exposed to, but nothing prepared me for an Associated Press story detailing a recent field trip to a
While liberalism and radical feminism are nothing new to me given my campus surroundings, I am frankly stunned that a college that once stood for traditional values and morality for so many years has succumbed to the liberal disease and reduced itself to Vegas field trips as part of the “academic experience.” Since when did prostitution become something to be glamorized and put on a pedestal? How did the “profession” of paid sex become so important that a college in financial crisis can afford to send students to study it?
If the administration of
What has to happen before parents and authority figures will finally stand up and say “enough?”
Allowing money to be spent on field trips to observe prostitution at work and ask such intellectual questions as “Do you still give a military discount?” teaches our nation’s young people that behaviors like those demonstrated in the sex industry are “OK” and an acceptable means of work. Did no one think to ask “How does your family feel about your occupation?” or “What are the emotional consequences of your behavior?” or even “Is your unwillingness to reveal your last name to us indicative of your embarrassment or shame?”
I believe that the American Culture Program at
I believe wholeheartedly that the moral fabric of this nation is fast unraveling and field trips to
It certainly appears that Randolph College has at least one clear thinker on its campus. Let’s hope more come forward.
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Gee, and here I was thinking my college was the only one that was screwed up.
Weebork on April 12, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Obviously, Ms. Helsley is jut too unevolved to appreciate the value of this type of education. She probably clings to guns and religion too.
Cicero43 on April 12, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Imagine that. Moral clarity on an American college campus. Who’d'a thunk?
sondiehl on April 12, 2008 at 11:42 AM
A brilliant, concise treatise on the subject and very condemining for the school.
Vntnrse on April 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM
She’ll be failing in a couple of days
Defector01 on April 12, 2008 at 11:46 AM
If I were a parent or Alum of Randolph, I’d want this fine young lady to be the school’s administrator. There is a female member of the Kentucky National Guard- the one with a Silver Star- that I would have work for her as ‘Assistant of Kicking Butt and Taking Names’.
To show the real illness of our society, all you have to do is look at the live poll associated with the original story. Currently running 44% think the field trip was a good idea and 26% not caring.
michaelo on April 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM
She must come from that bitter part of America I’ve been hearing so much about lately. May even go to church regularly, believe in the 2nd Amendment, individual responsibility, a sense of morality, the sanctity of marriage, and the rule of law regarding illegal immigration. In spite of all that dragging her down, she still makes good points.
a capella on April 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM
A lot of college course, going back 35 years or so, seem to be as much about the instructor wanting to delve into the dark corners of their own interests while being both sanctioned by university accreditation, and introducing others into their own way of thinking. Not that it takes much to get students in their late teens or early 20s interested in sex, but it’s not something your average parent expects to be shelling out college course hour or textbook payments for.
On the other hand, Elliot Spizter needs a professorship, now that he’s no longer in political office, so he and Randolph College seems like a perfect fit.
jon1979 on April 12, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Randolph’s response to this will be to schedule next year’s trip to Amsterdam to study how to bring legalized prostitution and drugs to the larger American culture.
eeyore on April 12, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Nah, too obvious, one or two activist professors will shave a few points off your grade to start knocking down your GPA.
doubleplusundead on April 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Great essay Miss Helsley, kudos.
lowandslow on April 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM
She is probably a gun owner, goes to church and is proud of her country. Discount her and her opinion…
al sends
afterdarknesslight on April 12, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Nice essay.
Continuing to publicize this and embarrassing the Randolph College president and board of directors is the only way to combat this. Miss Helsey’s essay is a good step. Continued, unrelenting pressure in Nevada newspapers are needed to upend this practice.
A public campaign directed at the alumni and parents might also help.
indythinker on April 12, 2008 at 12:20 PM
I agree with her, but the point that she’s missing is that this seamy underside of the culture is available 24X7 on the internet, on TV, in movies, in the news etc.
It’s in our face constantly. You can barely escape it.
If a college professor is dim enough to think that this is going to be some kind of new experience for students, he is either ignorant or delusional.
If the professor wants something new, edgy and something that his students haven’t been exposed to, perhaps he can teach his students how to write, economics, history, math or science.
None of which seem to make the Top Ten list of priorities when it comes to our public schools, since they’ve all been crowded out by the social engineering indoctrination, global warming awareness, sex ed and seminars on how to use and to don condoms.
NoDonkey on April 12, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Ms. Helsley, your essay was very good. I hope you will consider presenting more of your writings and opinions to Hot Air. Thanks
Zorro on April 12, 2008 at 12:24 PM
She might want to think about transfering to Hillsdale College.
Wade on April 12, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Yeah there are no ‘values’ on a college campus in 2008. That went out the window during the free-love movement of the 60s.
tx2654 on April 12, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Quite obviously, Randolph College will soon unveil a work study program for prospective new employees.
The Randolph College version of the Chicken Ranch.
The Left is classless. The entire educational system should be gutted.
Mike Mose on April 12, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Who cares. People are too sexually repressed in this country. We are sexual beings. The only ones who object are people who are not comfortable in their own skin yet; they feel they must attack those that are in order to make them wrong and themselves right.
Corey Wayne on April 12, 2008 at 12:46 PM
That has been obvious for years! How long have our children been indoctrinated on how to put condoms on cucumbers!?! ( to put it mildly…. )
Vntnrse on April 12, 2008 at 12:51 PM
She’s not your ‘typical’ white woman.
geminicontender on April 12, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Corey Wayne, thanks for checking in from 1967, and they said time travel was not possible.
NoDonkey on April 12, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Corey Wayne is still high on the ’60’s. Reduce everything to the gay, free lifestyle we should all hold dearly.
geminicontender on April 12, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Wait till Hillary wins and wants the ‘village’ to raise your kid. Everyone will turn out like her husband Bill.
geminicontender on April 12, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Comment of the day.
lowandslow on April 12, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Without wanting to appear judgmental, sounds like you might need to consider a blood test for AIDS,..you know, the disease that just appeared out of nowhere once we discovered we are sexual beings..
a capella on April 12, 2008 at 1:05 PM
This story has been misreported. Yes, students were taken to a brothel. But the purpose of their visit was political — observing Democratic politico activities.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on April 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Yet another example of the “legacy” of Bill Clinton.
Del Dolemonte on April 12, 2008 at 1:07 PM
I think AIDS, syphillis, gonnorhea, chlamydia, cervical cancer, etc. will decide who is wrong or right.
peacenprosperity on April 12, 2008 at 1:11 PM
And an aside, the photo illustrates once again that conservative women are better looking then liberal women. Now that would be a study, kind of the a chicken or the egg. Unattractiveness or liberalism, which is the primary affliction? Although stupidity has to be considered as a factor also.
peacenprosperity on April 12, 2008 at 1:14 PM
POLITICAL SCIENCE 101 FIELD TRIP: Visit Chicken Ranch (Poling place).
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on April 12, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Meh, world’s oldest profession. No need to get all upset. Anyone know if they still have that military discount?
LT Nixon on April 12, 2008 at 1:26 PM
How about this for a great sociology field trip….take them to a church to see how the other half of America lives?
What the hell am I thinking, that would NEVER enter the mind of so progrssive an educator.
SilntThnkr on April 12, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Let’s hope that the school’s equivalent of the student ethics committee doesn’t ring her up on hate crimes charges or some similar garbage. Would anyone be surprised if they expelled her? I hope she is a tough as she sounds, this might get ugly.
Brian Paasch on April 12, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Someone call the whaaaaambulance. I’m so totally forced to get education at liberal, feminist colleges. I couldn’t go to Liberty University… because
it offers crappy education and a degree not recognized by anyoneBill Clinton wouldn’t let me.freevillage on April 12, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Given what I see going down at UT, I don’t know why they’re sending the kids to a brothel. Just join the hookup culture in the dorm and you can get it for free. Man, I remember when you actually had to work at seduction; now all you have to do is show up.
austinnelly on April 12, 2008 at 2:27 PM
I don’t think this trip is likely to glamourise prostitution. In fact, I think many of the students going on this trip will find it a sobering experience – brothels aren’t glamourous.
And like it or not, irrespective of whether the “profession” of paid sex is important, discussing its morality is.
passingtramp on April 12, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Interesting comments about the parents taking responsibility. As the mother of two college students, the only time the colleges want anything from me is our total household income. Because my students are over 18, I can’t get a copy of their course list, their grades, or even a verification of enrollment for insurance purposes. My students have to give it to me.
Chances are the parents didn’t hear about the field trip until after it was over. It’s not like the parents had to sign a permission slip!
March Hare on April 12, 2008 at 3:14 PM
For the next field trip might I suggest a trip to a Detroit crack house. Pass the pipe and see how the other half lives.
Freaking morons. Let’s embrace the things that debase and undermine our civilization at the expense of other worthwhile pursuits. In the name of Woman’s Studies, where going to go watch incredibly balanced and well-adjusted men objectify and denigrate “professional” women.
Cold Steel on April 12, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Her essay probably won’t endear her to the school administration, nor do her GPA any good, but at least she has obviously learned something at school, despite the efforts of her ‘teachers’.
Think_b4_speaking on April 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM
The moral fabric of this country has decayed because of the widespread indoctrination of the non scientific official state religion of evolution/secular humanism.
Until evolution is exposed and not taught in schools, America will continue on it’s path to becoming absolutely corrupt.
If you can’t believe the history/biology/geology/astronomy of the Bible then you can’t believe the message of Jesus Christ and people will continue to commit the sin of idolatry and change God’s standards of righteousness.
Fortunately, true science validates the Bible(worldwide flood/geological record etc.).
Hopefully Ben stein’s new mainstream movie, Expelled:No intelligence allowed, will expose the truth about how the ACLU and these so called “scientists” discredit,defame and even jail, true scientists who publish anything that disproves the evolutionists non scientific state religion.
SaintOlaf on April 12, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Really? Liberty’s not nationally accredited? Hmm… Wonder where this piece of disinformation came from then?
“Liberty University is a member of the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS) having been awarded Reaffirmation status as a Category IV institution by the TRACS Accreditation Commission on September 20, 2000; this status is effective for a period of 10 years. TRACS is recognized by the United States Department of Education (USDE), the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) and the International Network for Quality Assurance Agencies in Higher Education (INQAAHE).”
Let’s see… the Department of Education, the Council for Higher Education Accreditation and more… Sounds legit to me.
http://www.collegesurfing.com/ce/liberty-university/?campaign_id=11207395&
Troika37 on April 12, 2008 at 5:06 PM
I think this question answers itself.
labrat on April 12, 2008 at 5:31 PM
My oldest is off to college in September. We looked at many schools. This is nothing new for colleges and universities – on the frontline of America’s social and moral decay.
hestrold on April 12, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Her essay will no doubt fall upon blind eyes and deaf ears. The number one song in the US right now, is “Touch My Body”. This little ditty gives us the likes of:
Sick, aint it?
bloggless on April 12, 2008 at 5:47 PM
How is doing a visit to a brothel embracing anything? Should students only be allowed to visit the planetarium and the science museum? If they visit a prison, are the embracing crime? If they visit a women’s shelter, are they embracing domestic abuse? How about if they visit a plant that does sodas or candies, are they embracing junk food?
mycowardice on April 12, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Obviously from that other America. (rural)
oakpack on April 12, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Why should they “visit” any of the places you mentioned. Is that what college is about today – fieldtrips.
By the way, they didn’t go to a planetarium, science museum, prison or women’s shelter. THEY WENT TO A WHOREHOUSE. That’s the point.
labrat on April 12, 2008 at 6:31 PM
College is about learning. Learning can take place with books, but it can also take place when going to see a play, or visiting a prison, or listening to music, or doing a survey (as in talking with people), or many other ways. So yes, fieldtrips can be part of that.
mycowardice on April 12, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Got news for youpal, going to a whore house and paying for sex does not make one sexually espressed
bloggless on April 12, 2008 at 6:36 PM
You’re all over the place with your logic. A supposedly reputable college taking a trip to a state that legalizes prostitution for the express purpose about learning prostitution’s in’s and out’s at best mocks higher learning. You’re trying to couch your argument by including women’s shelters and prisons, and then you skip over to junk food. Stick to a common thread. Don’t just pick up your logical feces and throw it just to see what sticks. Prison visits might be good for specialized internship courses, but undergrads who hardly understand Sociology 101 should concentrate on the basics. Museums and planetariums are excellent starting points for budding scientists and artists, and even the GE types. People all excited to learn the vices in life, should first ground themselves in classical virtues….you know, ideals which perpetuate civilization, rather than debase it. Forming minds jumping into understanding moral disease and decay without the comprehension of associated consequences (either societal, or even, if you will religious) in no way fulfills a university’s mission statement.
Cold Steel on April 12, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Yes, college should be about learning. There is no educational value in visiting a House of Ill Repute. I’ve become aquainted with many college professors in my time. Though I may have disagreed with the politics of most of them, they still inspired me to learn. Some, though, took great pleasure in doing things they knew would offend the sensibilities and values of Christians and other religious students in their classes, while hiding behind their title and position. Furthermore, shame – shame on the other students, their parents and other faculty members for not publicly condemning this.
labrat on April 12, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Saw the slam piece on Ms. Helsley you’re so proud of mycowardice. There again you fail to grasp her point. You couldn’t stick to a point with superglue.
oakpack on April 12, 2008 at 7:42 PM
My school used to offer a strip tease class as a PE course.
bookwurm322 on April 12, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Clearly, Catherine Helsley simply doesn’t understand that the whores – excuse me – the prostitutes have chosen to liberate themselves from society’s connubial, sexist oppression by giving hummers to strangers in a trailer somewhere in the deset.
Django on April 12, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Corey Wayne on April 12, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Would you pick that occupation for a member of your family?
Johan Klaus on April 12, 2008 at 8:46 PM
First, I think the word ’slamming’ is way too much for what I am doing. Catherine posted (indirectly) her ideas in the marketplace of ideas, I think it’s only fair to comment on it. Plus, I think she has one good point.
Anyways, I commented on the piece because it creates some kind of barrier around a brothel that doesn’t need to be there.
She makes different kind of points. One I partially agree with is that there are many types of questions that could be asked at a brothel, and some are more profound than others.
The rest, I think it’s moral applied to college, and I don’t think it’s the right approach. I think if I visited a brothel as part of a class, there would be much to learn. Who works there, who goes there, what security measures do workers take to protect themselves, how long do people work there, the history of the place, the legality of it, what do workers do after they leave, how are workers treated by their family, are workers able to have a family on their own, etc.
BTW, we just lost one governor due to prostitution. Don’t underestimate what prostitution represent in our society.
As for my argument relating to the places I cited, this is specifically towards her claim that by going to place X we are glamorizing that place or what is going on there. Visiting a brothel, IMHO, is in no way glamorizing what goes on there. At best, it’s an acknowledgment of the existence of the place, which just grounds you in reality.
mycowardice on April 12, 2008 at 8:50 PM
mycowardice on April 12, 2008 at 6:34 PM
An this particular learning adds to your resume how?
Johan Klaus on April 12, 2008 at 8:51 PM
And
Johan Klaus on April 12, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Since I know we are all interested in a serious discussion, I found the explaination from the school quite interesting:
http://web.randolphcollege.edu/americanculture/message_april2008.asp
It adds to your general knowledge. What you do with that knowledge doesn’t have to directly map to your resume.
mycowardice on April 12, 2008 at 9:06 PM
My son is a college junior, and your comments reflect exactly what I was thinking. Thanks.
Last is First on April 12, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Uh huh, that’s why 12 and 13 year old kids are having sex, 1 in 4 American woman carry an STD, illigitamcy is at an all time high, etc… it’s because we’re all SOOOOOO “repressed”.
If that’s “repressed” I’d hate to see what people like you would call “liberated”.
SuperCool on April 12, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Not too much fear of that with a Mechanical Engineering major; their not into ‘culture’ (though one has to watch the extra-curricular ‘field trips’ not sponsored by the school).
michaelo on April 12, 2008 at 10:22 PM
From their “explanation”
Lets pluck some samples from the course syllabus:
Week 1: Barry Lopez – The Rediscovery of America. An excerpt: “Christopher Dove, came to America and began a process, not of discovery, but incursion – “a ruthless, angry search for wealth”.
Summary: Indians were good, White European’s, bad.
Week 2: The Omnivore’s Dilemma. Eat local hippie food. Anything else is evil.
Week 3: Missing Mountain – Mining is BAD!
Week 4: The end of suburbia. – Fossil fuels are BAD!
Erotic images in media, Naomi Wolf seminar (feminist), the evil of indulgence, Jesus Camp, Outfoxed, A visit to Senator Reid’s office! And lastly, the climax……
This class is gross propaganda and indoctrination.
They deserve all the scorn they get.
DWB on April 12, 2008 at 10:58 PM
.
Let, me reword my sentence. And this helps you how?
Johan Klaus on April 12, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to show a movie,like Debbie does
Dallas!
But on the otherhand,that kind of smut crap shouldn’t
see the light of day in any school!
And is this an episode from South Park!
canopfor on April 12, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Not sure. Maybe after visiting such a place you will be a political activist for ensuring prostitutes have better working rights, or you will advocate for federal laws banning such practice, who knows. Maybe you will push for better sex ed when you join your local schoolboard, or maybe you will decide to stay away from a state that condones this type of behavior.
It’s not like learning additions and substractions, where clearly the ‘helps you how’ answer is easy to spell out.
Also, it’s possible that the people of the brothel have something to learn from the students. Maybe some lives will be changed there as well.
Honestly, I find this a really myopic vision of what learning is all about.
mycowardice on April 12, 2008 at 11:51 PM
HotAireans,
It doesn’t take much imagination to guess what the reaction would be if Randolph’s administration ok’d a trip to see the horrors of an abortion clinic.
But prostitutes? Sure, why not!
macummings on April 13, 2008 at 12:05 AM
freevillage on April 13, 2008 at 12:46 AM
I’ve gone back and read the comments on this thread from top to bottom again. Let me hazard a guess here:
Those of you defending the decision of this institution of lower learning, have no children of your own.
Just curious.
labrat on April 13, 2008 at 12:55 AM
Try again :)
mycowardice on April 13, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Sure there can be, it depends how it is framed. Mycowardice makes several points that are apt, perhaps the most cogent being that a trip to a brothel doesn’t put the behavior on a pedestal. Perhaps it does the opposite.
dedalus on April 13, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Is she calling the teachers pimps or whores?
Either way, bull’s eye.
profitsbeard on April 13, 2008 at 2:23 AM
A course on consumerism involves a trip to the brothel. I suspect I would have failed the class, because I would have refused to go. I understand the consumerism aspect — people sell sexual favors to other people for a lot of money — and, in some cases, more money than the buyer’s family can afford to have spent. This is consumerism dedicated to liberating lonely working class johns from their money — something only libertarians or liberals could love. They should have just seen this.
unclesmrgol on April 13, 2008 at 2:37 AM
I pity your children.
I don’t need to touch a hot stove to know it will burn my hand. I don’t need to visit a whore house to know prostitution is immoral.
Or perhaps, like Obama, you think this is a great opportunity to have a “national discussion,” or “engage in dialogue” so we can move past all this misogynist, sexist sentiment?
Whores, and the johns who support them, need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law each and every time. No exceptions.
One thing we all might be missinng is that Ms. Helsey is writing to demonstrate how far left the academic pendulum has swung at Randolph. If any of you want to visit the ol’ cat house, you’re welcome to do so, but there is absolutely no higher education to be gained that can’t be had at any other place of business. It’s quite obvious what the goal of the inclusion of prostitution in this course is, and like others, I want to know when they’re going to go to a crack house. When are they going to take these kids to cock fights? Dog fights? When, oh when, are they going to put the girls in burkas and leave them in a mosque? After all, it’s all “American culture,” right? It’s all the same, right?
fourstringfuror on April 13, 2008 at 2:40 AM
Okay, well, I suppose I’m just a bit puzzled at how the conversation on this topic has evolved.
I pity those women, to an extent, but my conscience would be violated if I even went near a place like that; not to mention the reproach that I would feel I had brought on my family and fellow Christians.
labrat on April 13, 2008 at 3:28 AM
Perhaps, but I doubt it. They may not be “putting it on a pedestal”, but, they are legitimizing it to an extent.
labrat on April 13, 2008 at 3:36 AM
Agreed. Like the old riverboat captain said: “I don’t have to know where all the rocks, in the river, are; I only have to know where the channel is.”
labrat on April 13, 2008 at 3:42 AM
What the hell has happened to our kids? When I was in college, a long long time ago we questioned authority! When we were told what to believe we didn’t just buy it but actually thought for ourselves as part of the normal process of becoming adults. Kids today seem to just buy this liberal tripe they are being fed with absolutely no rebellious spirit that possibly there is another side to the argument! Glad to see there is one student in the US that disagrees!
sabbott on April 13, 2008 at 3:48 AM
Alas, the letter is so cogent, persuasive and eloquently written, that one is likely to get the impression that the college really is providing a first-class education, notwithstanding the odd field trip.
morganfrost on April 13, 2008 at 8:18 AM
It is an acceptable means of work…the height of capitalism.
I dont thick there should have been a field trip, but her high-horse “morality” lecture is not the right way to look at this.
Squid Shark on April 13, 2008 at 8:49 AM
Its much cheaper in Nevada, only reson it is so expensive everywhere else is because it is a black market industry, like drugs.
Squid Shark on April 13, 2008 at 8:58 AM
““Do you still give a military discount?”
What was the answer? it doesn’t say
Merely one professional to another professional inquiry…..
E9RET on April 13, 2008 at 9:27 AM
They do :)
Squid Shark on April 13, 2008 at 9:51 AM
What is your reasoning for that?
Is the prostitutes body your body to sell? Is the Johns money your money to tell him how to spend it?
OK then. I think that your church is immoral and you should not be allowed to give your hard earned money to it…
Squid Shark on April 13, 2008 at 9:53 AM
I did not know that teaching stupidity could ever become part of curriculum.
Monas on April 13, 2008 at 11:52 AM
The professor may be doing so, but to a lesser extent than the citizens of Nevada who have allowed their counties to legalize it and collect fees from the brothels. Perhaps the field trip could include visits with members of the state legislature who deal with decisions on whether to keep it legal or modify the regulations.
dedalus on April 13, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I wonder how much money comes from those fees.
Squid Shark on April 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM
It varies from county to county. A license to run a brothel can cost $100,000 annually. Also, the owners file 1099’s to the federal government which then collects income tax and probably FICA.
Should states have the right to allow such activity? Should the federal government step in and stop them? Should the federal government profit from the activity? Questions that are interesting enough for a college classroom.
dedalus on April 13, 2008 at 1:55 PM
My reasoning for what? Prosecuting whores for prostitution and johns for soliciting? It’s the law in the vast majority of places – that’s my reasoning. As for your lame comparison of a cat house to my church, I’m not really sure where you’re going with that, and I’m not really sure I care. I don’t visit this site to argue with trolls, and I don’t plan to start.
fourstringfuror on April 13, 2008 at 2:44 PM
I guess those student’s parents are enjoying seeing their hard earn money being thrown down a rat-hole.
oldelpasoan on April 13, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Apparently, the parents of the students in the class didn’t. Probably there were extra travel expenses involved that the students or parents paid.
The school costs about $35,000 a year. I’ve always wondered how many parents weigh the alternative of investing $150,000 into a business that their chilren would eventually own, rather than invest in college.
dedalus on April 13, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Clearly we arent talking about illegal prostitution, sine we are referring to legal brothels in Nevada. You say it is immoral which pretty clearly implies that you think it should not be legal anywhere, let try to keep up with the rest of the group children, dont be distracted by the pretty straw men.
My point is, what other people do with their money and other consenting adults is and ought to be no more your business than what you do with your money is to me, there was no comparison of a cat house to your church, so your indignation wont fly.
Neither will your ad hominem attack on me as a troll. Have a lovely day.
Squid Shark on April 13, 2008 at 4:32 PM
No argument here. You raise a whole other issue. It is legal in Nevada. I certainly don’t agree with it, but as a believer in state’s rights, if this is what the voters of Nevada want, fine. I guess the market will decide if the college has hurt it’s standing and tarnished its image.
We want people of high moral and ethical character coming out of our colleges and universities, and I just fail see where “learning about” this “profession”, however it’s framed, fits into the context of a higher education. I feel that these students were done a disservice on so many levels.
labrat on April 13, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Sounds like my alma mater.
Red Pill on April 13, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Schools run by whores teaching students how to be a whore. Is anyone really surprised?
volsense on April 14, 2008 at 2:06 PM
I find it interesting that feminism and our culture has decided that objectifying women is no longer something to be jeered. How do you juxtapose the idea that women have just as much capabilities as men and should be competitive in the workforce with women have nothing better to do to make money than lie on their backsides? Better yet, that the lie on their backs for a stranger, many strangers in fact, than with a husband?
Sultry Beauty on April 14, 2008 at 2:58 PM
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