Newt Gingrich: Obama just doesn’t get Americans
posted at 7:18 pm on April 12, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Now that Barack Obama has issued the requisite non-apology apology in the usual form — he “deeply regrets” that he offended people not with his sentiments but with his sentence structure — the media will likely let Obama off the hook. Not Newt Gingrich, who makes a rare foray into the presidential campaign from the bleacher seats with a searing analysis that hits a bullseye, and one obvious to anyone who hasn’t just focused on the word “bitter”:
If you go to the most expensive private school in Hawaii and then move on to Columbia University and Harvard Law School, you may not understand normal Americans. Their beliefs are so alien to your leftwing viewpoint that you have to seek some psychological explanation for what seem to be weird ideas.
They can’t really believe in the right to bear arms.
They can’t really believe in traditional marriage.
They can’t really believe in their faith in God.
They can’t really want to enforce the law on immigration.
Therefore, they must be “bitter” and “frustrated.”
This is the closest Senator Obama has come to openly sharing his wife’s view that “America is a mean country”. Not since Governor Dukakis have we seen anyone so out of touch with normal Americans. It makes perfect sense that it was in a fundraiser in San Francisco that he would have shared the views he has so carefully kept hidden for the entire campaign.
This distills the Obama viewpoint about middle America to its essence. He assumes that gun ownership, religious faith, and a desire to enforce border security grows out of a mental defect or simple petulance. He cannot understand any of it as deeply held values or beliefs because they are all so foreign to him. His cure is a huge, whopping dose of government intervention to replace all of it. That’s the hubris, the condescension, and the elitism rolled up into a precise point.
The one sentence wasn’t the only point that offends here. Ben Smith at Politico has a video clip of a portion of this appearance. Ask yourself this: isn’t Obama implying that middle America is, well, racist in this quote? Emphases mine:
Here’s how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn’t buy it. And when it’s delivered by — it’s true that when it’s delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism.
Update: Rick Moran discusses Obama’s Allentown Syndrome, and why it’s a mirage.
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What did he lie about?
JiangxiDad on April 12, 2008 at 10:00 PM
McCain or no McCain, all those who are running for president, in my opinion, are not worthy to bear the title of ‘President’ of this nation.
I never thought I could live and see the great title of ‘President of The United states’ being carried by any of these candidates who lack honesty, leadership, experience, and especially on the Right, strong conservative values.
Did you know that the Democratic Party was once representing the Conservatives?
Did you know that America was a Conservative nation, in a sense that both parties Democrats and Republicans shared same values?
Did you know that Conservatism what the norm? Was what defined America as a nation?
That was the time when America was at the top of its greatness.
Of course, the media will never tell that.
Indy Conservative on April 12, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Yea, that makes him “Garbage”. Of course he is just a piece of garbage because he had an opinion.
I’m glad we have all that “Garbage” fighting in Iraq. You know, The uneducated dupes that could not find a job picking lettuce…Those guys..
Nelsa on April 12, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Its on! When they start paying $50 per hour to pick lettuce, no one will be eating lettuce.
cjs1943 on April 12, 2008 at 10:04 PM
OT indeed.
Shouts to Entelechy for keepin the ship tidy.
:)
The Race Card on April 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM
At a time like this any true conservative would have to be pretty damn drunk not to be.
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Planes, phones, internet, email, etc. Socialism arrived on our shores. Should have anticipated it, of course. Shows how dumb we are. Let’s hope it’s not too late. Keep fighting.
JiangxiDad on April 12, 2008 at 10:08 PM
“Comprehensive Immigration Reform”.
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Well, I thought you might say that, and you might be right. But I can’t honestly remember him ever saying that he was in favor of closing the border or stopping illegals, or of not giving amnesty. I disagree with him completely. Am I misremembering?
JiangxiDad on April 12, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Roger that.
We have the best government money can buy, and “we” probably deserve it.
wccawa on April 12, 2008 at 10:12 PM
I hope I’ll be around in 2012 to witness the fulfillment of your prediction.
I’m not that old anyway, so maybe I’ll be bugging you here for a while.
And I won’t blame you if McCain don’t win this year :-)
Thanks for the hug buddy.
Likewise.
Indy Conservative on April 12, 2008 at 10:12 PM
I think he did say that he would not allow a nuclear Iran. That might be a good example. However, it’s OT, so better quit.
JiangxiDad on April 12, 2008 at 10:13 PM
The light at the end of the tunnel is a train.
Murphy9 on April 12, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Lately it seems to just about always be what Obama said.
Maybe http://www.hotair.com
should have it’s name changed to
http://www.WhatObamaSaid.com
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Is it me, or is Newt the guy who shows up after the fire to point out there was a fire?
mylegsareswollen on April 12, 2008 at 10:20 PM
It was the opinion that he had, and almost certainly still has, about his fellow Americans that makes him smell, not the simple fact that he had/has an opinion.
Where did that come from?
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 10:21 PM
See Michelle’s site. She has it all there and she is more articulate than I am.
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Leave it to you frigging geniuses to turn this, what should be a death blow to the most dangerous man to run for office in my entire lifetime, into a debate about McCain. Some of you really deserve 4 years of Obama.
TheBigOldDog on April 12, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I don’t think population was a determining factor, though; it was the alleviation of boredom. Seriously.
Where once men would while away their free hours reading, studying, theorizing, experimenting and inventing or otherwise engaged in some other worthwhile activity, now people spend a couple of hours every day caught in traffic, get their chores done, including dinner, and then vegetate in front of the TV. Where once men would leave the majority of housework and child rearing chores to their wives or servants, freeing up their own time for other pursuits, now both parents have to work. Where once children would learn self reliance and an appreciation for freedom and liberty while playing with friends in wide open spaces where the only rules were their own imaginations, now children are coddled, monitored and spoiled like never before in human history.
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 10:29 PM
He said that CIR was not amnesty, when it was in fact amnesty plus. If it wasn’t lying it was close enough.
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Fixed………….
Seven Percent Solution on April 12, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Trust me on this one anyway. What goes on in
VegasHotair stays inVegasHotairDon’t worry about what the rest of the world thinks about what we are saying as they are not listening to us.
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 10:36 PM
I also think Washington has been taking over by money and influence. I’ve been seeing the HBO series John Adams and reading our founding lately. In the last episode John and Abigail Adams walk into the ‘White House’ when he gets elected President and it was a trashy place. It’s very clear in the show that people didn’t get into politics for money (because there was none) but out of a sense of duty.
terryannonline on April 12, 2008 at 10:42 PM
It came from yor post saying:
It just struck a nerve when I remember Kerry saying, “You know, education - if you make the most of it - you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq,”
It was the use of your word stupid in your response to my reply about your calling McCain garbage…
Unless I missed your point. Which could happen on rare ocasions.:)
Nelsa on April 12, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Considering the context of the original quote that likened McCain and the other candidates to garbage, my interpretation was that the candidates fall so far short of the position of POTUS that, as candidates, they are garbage. I don’t think it’s correct to read it as a personal attack.
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 10:46 PM
That is true. When the country was founded, the founding fathers didn’t foresee that this country would not be an agriculture based economy. That is why they did not put in term limits. Their thinking was that people would do their duty and serve 1 or 2 terms and get back to running their businesses, farms, or whatever. They never foresaw the ‘career politician’.
cjs1943 on April 12, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Maybe Obama has a point. I did google search for Pennsylvania Gun Waiting Periods,because I want to buy a gun ASAP. And guess what Google did in Its Infinite Wisdom? I suddenly started seeing ads for Conservative Republican Pennsylvania websites.
thuja on April 12, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Maybe this has already been covered, but I want to know who the hell are these Pennsylvania people who have been “people have been beaten down so long, and [...] feel so betrayed by government”? Obviously, they aren’t going to Senator Arlen Specter’s gym, but I’ve not even seen them at Walmart.
thuja on April 12, 2008 at 10:51 PM
You may be right. Maybe I should not take things so seriously. But(There is always a but)it just struck me the wrong way. Garbage is a strong word when attributed to someone. I think a better word may have been used. But(another but) as a provocative tool it works just fine. :)
McCain does need to understand that conservatives are serious about their objectives..
Nelsa on April 12, 2008 at 10:57 PM
I think the reason China trades with America is to increase their influence and affect change in our government. You know, the reverse of the Nixon doctrine.
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 11:00 PM
You late to the party?
When the GOP was still in primary mode, HA was all about what a wonderful candidate John McCain is and how vile and evil Thompson, Romney, Huckabee, etc. are.
To this day, those of us who have problems with McCain calling himself a conservative are told to shut the f**k up and support McCain as the lesser of three very bad choices. Frankly, I want to scream from the rooftops that none of the candidates are acceptable. If the GOP insists on running a rat bastard political traitor like John McCain for the Presidency, they damned well better listen to social conservatives and evangelicals in picking the VP nominee- an important factor considering McCain is likely to keel over at any moment. Sadly McCain’s “shut the f**k up” forces are leaning to like-minded liberal rat bastard traitors instead of taking real Republicans seriously.
IN MCCAIN’S WORLD THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES AND FRED PHELPS.
highhopes on April 12, 2008 at 11:01 PM
We’re about to be taken over by China, so it really doesn’t matter who says what.
eaglesdontflock on April 12, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I think MB4 would be more comfortable on Kos.
ArmyAunt on April 12, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Actually on the “garbage”‘, I was seconding someone elses observation. My own word would be “smells”.
As I said, it was McCain who implicitly said Americans were too lazy and/or too inept and/or too stupid and/or too whatever to pick lettuce even for $50 an hour. Whichever combination it was, it shows a clear and profound contempt for Americans in general and the American worker in particular.
And I guess I just must have somehow missed how you went from this -
to this -
as I don’t see any connection.
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM
That’s harsh.
Grayson on April 12, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Newt says:
Or to put it another way:
“[I]t’s not surprising, then, that elitist liberals get bitter, they cling to gun control or secularism or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-U.S. sentiment or anti-patriarchal sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on April 12, 2008 at 11:14 PM
That one kind of made me groan. Does Gingrich really think he’s in a position to make remarks on marriage?
Grayson on April 12, 2008 at 11:16 PM
No kidding. The irony there is astounding.
SnarkVader on April 12, 2008 at 11:18 PM
If I would be “more comfortable” at KOS I would be there.
Do you want this place to be just a lock step Charlie Juliet?
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 11:18 PM
The subject is not about the picking of veggies, but the truth is that they have had to use prison labor in Colorado to do just that. Other than the Great Depression when the Okies went to California to work the fields, Americans have not done migrant labor in great numbers. They will pick the veggies when they own the land, not as migrant labor. To pretend that paying more money will get them to do field work is just stupid.
And btw Bush is not a liar. I saw in the thread that someone wondered why a few million could produce the founding Fathers and now we are stuck with what we have today. I have to admit George Washington is my favorite president, but I doubt if the men of those times could have survived in today’s political world. I doubt that Lincoln could have for that matter.
Obama is guilty of regional snobbery. It is common among elitist liberal. They think they are being kind to the little people.
Terrye on April 12, 2008 at 11:19 PM
I really wish people would quit saying that. Over at KOS people often resort to personal attacks for lack of a valid argument; or so I’ve heard. For people here to suggest that MB4 would be more comfortable there, (which is insulting and thus a personal attack), simply because they can’t refute his arguments shows that, if anything, the people making this suggestion would probably in actuality be more comfortable over at KOS.
The best thing to do is try to come up with a good argument to put MB4 in his place the old fashioned way.
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 11:22 PM
The thing that sometimes strikes me is how amazingly alike some of the McCainiac commenters here are to the Obama lovers. It’s eerie.
Grayson on April 12, 2008 at 11:22 PM
And McCain is a far better man than Obama. He is not as conservative as Newt Gingrich, but then again Newt Gingrich could never get the nomination or win the White House either.
Terrye on April 12, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Dave over at LiberalLand saved me some typing:
fred5678 on April 12, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Despite what you may have heard or believe, words have meaning. The man is running for president of the United States, not Glee Club treasurer.
SouthernGent on April 12, 2008 at 11:24 PM
MB4 = Moon Bat 4
Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Liberals think average Americans are stupid and need the government to make decisions for them and take care of them. Conservatives believe average Americans are smart and the government needs to stay out of their way as much as possible.
TheBigOldDog on April 12, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Excellent point.
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 11:28 PM
You are absolutely correct. There is no continuity in my response. I totally misread your post. I had a thought there initially but it got lost in translation.
I still think calling McCain garbage is an insult.
Nelsa on April 12, 2008 at 11:28 PM
The rest was good though.
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Maybe, seeing as how I am such a “KOS Kid” and all, I will go over to KOS and post one of my KOS type ditty’s these days -
Able to guzzle more energy than dozens of normal men! Producing more hot air than a locomotive! Able to pile up carbon credits higher than a tall building in a single bound!!!
Look UP in the sky! It’s ChickenLittle! It’s FlyingSnakeOilSalesman! It’s the Sultan of Chad! It’s the Ayatollah of Heat! No, it’s CarbonMan in a private jet painted green! And now following in the tradition of
other great men such as Jimmy Carter and Yasir Arafat, he is the proud recipient of a Nobel Prize!!!
CarbonMan, strange visitor from an alternate reality who came to Earth with claims and scary predictions far beyond those of mortal men, disguised as Fat Albert, and now joined by other members of the Royal GreenLeague such as BioFuelHummerMan and EcoCleaningWoman, they all fight a
never ending battle for Science-fiction, hypocrisy and the Hollywood way!
or maybe this
Global warming might kill me, this I know,
Though my thermostat is turned down, oh so low.
Though my lights are all set on dim,
Still Al bids me to scrimp more for him.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
Though my Honda is oh, so slow,
With my brain in his hands I’ll go.
On through life, let come to me what may,
He’ll be fling in a private jet going his own way.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
Though I am no longer young,
I have learned so much which He’s begun.
Let me live in a cave like my ancestors did for the Oracle with a
smile,
Go with him the extra carbon credit pile.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
When the days are hot and long,
In my hand He puts a bong.
Telling me in words so clear,
“Have no fear, I am the Oracle and I am near.”
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
When his work in America is done,
And his bank accounts weigh a ton.
He will take my roof above,
Then I’ll understand all about his love.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
I praise the Goracle, does he know?
Have I ever told Him so?
The Goracle loves to hear me say,
That I will buy his carbon credits every day.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
What do ya think? Will they like what their fellow “KOS Kid” has to say or what!!!
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 11:30 PM
For instance, if we are to call Bush a liar for believing the intel passed onto him by others, should we then call the UN weapons inspectors liars? Are the people in German Intelligence and British Intelligence liars? I would ask if Clinton was a liar..but we know the answer to that..so how about Zinni? He was after all the one who said that Saddam was our number one threat. And how about Bill Richardson? He was the one who was pushing the AlQaida/Saddam links back in the previous administration.
I mean at some point we have to stop making this personal, or all kinds of people are liars. If you get my drift.
The problem is that too many people are guilty of magical thinking.
We can bring back the old days in the rustbelt. No we can’t, and if we could people probably would find out is was not so good after all.
Saddam could have been contained. No he could not have and if we had turned him loose we would have only have been putting off the inevitability of dealing with him.
And so on.
Terrye on April 12, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Well it is, and for good reason, it’s just not as insulting as you initially thought. :)
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Kos kiddies don’t really like anything. They just hate certain things less.
Grayson on April 12, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Hey guys,
How about we not be like DailyKos and go after people just because they don’t agree with us on every topic. We should be open to dissenters.
terryannonline on April 12, 2008 at 11:35 PM
MB4 may have his quirks, but this and some other anti-MB4 comments on this thread seem more than a little excessive. Let’s play nice.
thuja on April 12, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Fixed it for ya’. :)
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Actually, technically MB4 is a geographical location at Ft. Sill, Oklahoma. No bats there although I recall a lot of fireflys.
Are fireflys related to moonbats?
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Indeed, from the left, to the center, to the right.
Yes, we will. And the world will deserve the. Then the world will cry after the “rotten overlord” they had in America.
p.s. some of you have highjacked this thread. You deserve Obama, and his Marxism, more than all the others.
Entelechy on April 12, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Exactly.
Grayson on April 12, 2008 at 11:37 PM
It didn’t need fixin’
TheBigOldDog on April 12, 2008 at 11:38 PM
I have not noticed MB4 being all that nice. But what the hell.
I used to farm and I can tell you that most people will not do that kind of work for any amount of money. They just won’t. And besides, if it costs more to pick up the hay than the hay is worth, what is the point? We are capitalists are we not?
Terrye on April 12, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Cut him some slack. He’s one of the few left around here who hasn’t been taken by the McCain pod people.
Grayson on April 12, 2008 at 11:40 PM
MB4, do you wish for Obama to win?
If you say “no, I wish for McCain to lose”, who’s left? Are you for Hillary?
Entelechy on April 12, 2008 at 11:43 PM
BTW, MB4…I was born in Duncan, just a stone’s throw from Lawton and Fort Sill. I have still have a lot of family down there in Okieland. I am third generation Okie myself.
Terrye on April 12, 2008 at 11:43 PM
is “condescending, crypto-Marxist, elitist liberal poseur”
too long to be a “oogleGa ombBa”?
SocklessJoe on April 12, 2008 at 11:44 PM
I am not a McCain pod person myself, but I don’t want Obama to win. I think it would be bad for the country and that is more important than my personal preferences. Just think about it, people are complaining that McCain is not conservative enough for them and a guy like Obama might actually win the White House. Maybe conservatives need to learn to do a better job of convincing Americans that they have the right policies, rather than just whining and complaining when their guy does not win.
Terrye on April 12, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Oh, come now, Entelechy. it’s Saturday night. How many Fred threads did yourself, TickleDragon, MadisonConservative and the others highjack in your day? Wasn’t it you that used to advocate for a Hot Air lounge area? :)
Besides, I wouldn’t worry to much. In spite of all of the criticism of McCain from the right he is still the best Democrat in the race and I’d be surprised if he lost the election. If he does it will be his own fault, not any of ours here.
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Apparently he has a history of making comments like this.
Just look at the smug jerk, how could someone who hates his fellow citizens so much get so far in this election?
Typhonsentra on April 12, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Well said.
It’s not like our comments here matter much, so let us knock him around a little. We need to get it out of our systems.
Grayson on April 12, 2008 at 11:52 PM
OK, that’s fair… I hate it when people do that to me too. :)
FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Why are they laughing? I’m at a loss as to what was guffaw worthy about that comment.
It’s as if they are in a live theatre audience where someone is performing and there’s a big sign that says “laugh” that gives them a cue what to do, but it all sounds very fake to the viewer.
Buy Danish on April 12, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Right now I think that the End of Days may be our last and best hope. Either that or we are taken over by the Klingon Empire.
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 11:53 PM
I was there for 8 months.
I liked Lawton but mostly just visited the Impact Zone when they let me out once in a great while.
Do you remember the “Under water bridges”?
MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I think this country can and has survived worse than anything it is facing right now.
Maybe the 24 news cycle has made us all a tad melodramatic.
Terrye on April 12, 2008 at 11:57 PM
When we hear something said by a 46yr old black man we are more skeptical, a new layer of skepticism. Clearly this is a case of Obama calling Americans racist. It can have no other meaning. Imagine if McCain had said this.
Dollayo on April 12, 2008 at 11:59 PM
MB4:
The under water bridges? I am not sure what you mean. I left home some time ago, but my brother and the rest of my family is still there. My brother said that since the military has become all volunteer it has attracted a lot more family types and so the brothels were run out of town.
He also said that whatever might be happening in the economy elsewhere, Lawton is growing and business is good. Unemployment is about 4%.
My folks were both from a small farm town called Konowa up by Shawnee and Ada.
Terrye on April 13, 2008 at 12:01 AM
It’s not a matter of being nice; it’s a matter of civility. It’s one thing to trounce your opponent in style or substance but it’s something else to resort to unjustified personal attacks.
FloatingRock on April 13, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Are you an elephant, great Floating Rock? :)
Yes, and I still am, though much less interested in it today. Heh, I just became a lizard yesterday. I can hardly keep up with this “
zooloungeshipblog” :)FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Entelechy on April 13, 2008 at 12:05 AM
“Under water bridges” is what they had at a number of places at Ft. Sill instead of culverts. Kind of a dip in the road located at a small creek that could become a big creek in a down pour, where water would go over the road instead of under it.
Some people used to wash their cars there.
MB4 on April 13, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Don’t you find it at all odd that he is so fixated on hunters and churches? Did he read about them in an anthropology book somewhere?
No one is saying he “hates” his fellow citizens. Elitism is not about hate, it’s about arrogance and living in a bubble which floats above small town America but isn’t actually a part of it.
To an Obama, America is filled with people who need to taken care of by smart people like him, and if he could just take over their lives they would no longer need to go hunting or go to church.
Entelechy,,
I didn’t get a chance to respond to your comments about Obama not mentioning his trips to Pakistan last night.
That is curious and I don’t have a reasonable explanation for it, especially since he talks about his Pakistani roommate with the expired tourist visa while at Columbia. Something about that story just doesn’t ring true.
Buy Danish on April 13, 2008 at 12:16 AM
MB4:
Oh yes, I do know what you mean and they are still there. That is just someplace for the water to go.
The last time I went home I flew into Fort Sill and the whole country was flooded. A lot of under water bridges then.
Terrye on April 13, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Maybe Americans just don’t get Obama.
Terrorist Fundraisers 4 Obama
Connie on April 13, 2008 at 12:24 AM
No, but I love elephants, whales and dolphins and am an animal lover in general.
FloatingRock on April 13, 2008 at 12:26 AM
I have to wonder why you feel the need to invalidate a prayer. I mean, what do you get out of this? Why is it the need of so many to convince the faithful that their peaceful faith is nothing but fables and mythology? Even if Jefferson was correct, I don’t really see the upside in convincing the faithful this. Certainly you can agree that a peaceful faith brings comfort and security to those who hold it. Belief itself can bring peace and comfort if the faith itself is true or not. A placebo affect can be proven, it is a fact. Would you tell a dying 90 year old patent that the doctors can’t do anything for them so they are giving the patent a placebo? What do you get out of destroying ones power of belief? For the record I am a agnostic.
Dollayo on April 13, 2008 at 12:36 AM
“…a 46 year old Black man…”
Isn’t Obama forgetting he’s half white?
The half of his family who didn’t abandon him as a child, by the way.
What a schizophrenic, ungrateful little liar.
profitsbeard on April 13, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Like many religions, Atheism simply wants to try and invalidate the others so as to be king of the hill.
Grayson on April 13, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Look:
I am a rock-solid McCain basher, but this Obama is so dangerous, so horrific and so WRONG for this country, that I am willing to let my passionate disgust with McCain go by the wayside, at least for the next 6 1/2 miserable months.
Of course, that means I will have to endure much more stupidity, many more lies, Miz Lindsay Graham and many more confused thinking processes from that tiny shriveled-up peanut that McCain calls his brain.
Call it patriotism, I guess…
TexasJew on April 13, 2008 at 12:41 AM
It’s a game.
I don’t think that I have the power to destroy someones belief system.
If I actually thought that I would destroy someones belief system, I wouldn’t do it, well unless it was Islam. When I, or others, make our atheist case it seems to just strengthen believers.
Maybe that is part of God’s plan.
MB4 on April 13, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Terrye on April 13, 2008 at 12:01 AM
When I was living up in Lawton back in 1981, besides the highest bar/population count in the entire world, and the incessant all-night boom-boom-boom of the range, I remember a plethora of hookers at the motels we oil field types were staying in. Not too family-friendly..
I was working between Cyril and Fletcher, a consultant on a 23,000′-deep well in the Fletcher field.
TexasJew on April 13, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Uhhh…What? You can’t be serious.
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MCCAIN ‘08: AT LEAST HE DOESN’T HATE AMERICA!
misterpeasea on April 13, 2008 at 12:56 AM
HE JUST LIKES MEXICO MORE!
Grayson on April 13, 2008 at 12:58 AM
As well he should Gringos. About time you woke up and olia el cafe. El amor que Juan!
VinyFoxy on April 13, 2008 at 1:04 AM
Drinking and Blogging…………
Meh…………..
A lot safer than Drinking and Driving……………
Seven Percent Solution on April 13, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Entelechy on April 13, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Same here, indeed.
Entelechy on April 13, 2008 at 1:11 AM
Dear
DorothyBuy Danish :), stay tuned, it will get curioser and curioser, just like in the land of Oz. It’s still early.Entelechy on April 13, 2008 at 1:15 AM
How far exactly has he gotten?
Entelechy on April 13, 2008 at 1:17 AM
Your nonsense is a non sequitur.
If calling McCain “garbage” is out of line, then HotAir should sell their domain and shut down now. Much of what I read here, even in the comments, is very informative. However much of what I read, especially in the comments is really vile.
I’ve read comments accusing elected officials of sedition, treason, murder, bigotry, corruption, etc. Is it really OK to suggest Hillary may have Obama killed, but out-of-line to call McCain “garbage?”
Pull up your little red tutu and deal with it.
Next time McCain or anyone calls me a nativist or racist for wanting to protect my country’s sovereignty, I will likely respond with a long string within which the word “garbage” would be considered nice.
The Race Card on April 13, 2008 at 1:17 AM
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