Otherwise, I would have to conclude that you are insufficiently educated to be able to know when you have been psychologically manipulated. And that would make you an unreliable reporter.

This has got to be the funniest part of the whole exchange. The eco-nutter is psychologically manipulating the reporter but telling him he’s too stupid to know when he’s being psychologically manipulated.

That’s genius/evil!

Hi Roger,

polite little twit

… . Your word “debate.”

condescending? given that…

This is not an issue of “debate.” This is an issue of emerging truth.

I don’t think you should worry about whether people feel they are countering some kind of conspiracy, or suspicious that the full extent of the truth is being withheld from them.

no, of course you don’t… best they not think such thoughts

Every day more information disinformation is added to the stack showing the desperate plight of the planet.

fixed it

It would be better if you did not quote the skeptics.

yes, please… it makes our work oh so much harder when people know things we don’t want them to know.

Their voice is heard everywhere, on every channel. They are deliberately obstructing the emergence of the truth.

really? why do you suppose that is? or is it just paranoia?

I would ask : Please reserve the main BBC Online channel for emerging truth our propaganda.

fixed it

Otherwise, I would have to conclude that you are insufficiently educated to be able to know when you have been psychologically manipulated. And that would make you an unreliable reporter.

we will expose you, we will bury you

I am about to send your comments to others for their contribution, unless you request I do not. They are likely to want to post your comments on forums/fora, so please indicate if you do not want this to happen. You may appear in an unfavourable light because it could be said that you have had your head turned by the skeptics.

oh my, how very subtle… not. play ball or we will turn loose the dogs.

Respectfully,

jo.

polite twit again, how pleasant.

From: Roger Harrabin

Have a look in 10 minutes and tell me you are happier. We have changed headline and more.

beta male wags tail for alpha female… England may indeed be finished.

The emerging truth is that the goal is communist control.

Johan Klaus on April 12, 2008 at 10:23 AM

Bingo. Well, we must add to that concept a bit; it is also about getting government funding for pseudo-scientists, who ignore scientific method, and embrace “consensus” – in fact, several scientists who would like to truly study the area are afraid to do so and publish their results, in fear of losing grant money, tenure, or both.
Time to face the fact that Global Whatever is merely a humanistic religion, based on mankind being their own Gods, intelligentsia control over resources, and true science be damned.

I mean, after all, we’re sitting on our dead asses on election day….Aren’t we?

Given, that a non-vote for McCain is an intentional vote for Gore/Obama/Clinton.

What could possibly go wrong?

It would be better if you did not quote the skeptics. Their voice is heard everywhere, on every channel. They are deliberately obstructing the emergence of the truth.

I would ask : Please reserve the main BBC Online channel for emerging truth.

Otherwise, I would have to conclude that you are insufficiently educated to be able to know when you have been psychologically manipulated. And that would make you an unreliable reporter.

Wow.

Smarmy little b… utterfly, isn’t she.

If her pompous arrogance were a dartboard, I’d score every time.

Owl Gore Shows New Evidence That Climate Change May Be Worse Than Predicted

There are now forecasts that the North Pole ice caps may disappear entirely during summer months within five years, he told a gathering at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
…

Dang Chakra, that sure doesn’t look like global warming to me… doesn’t look like any kind of warming.

It’s been in the 80′s around here (love my shorts & tank tops) but we’ll be getting cold again next week (highs in the 60′s, lows in the 30′s). Of course, the flip-flopping weather is nothing unusual for us in N. FL – I remember 20 some odd years ago when I was in high school, going to the beach in February and having snow a few weeks later in March. Global warming/Global cooling – it’s all just part of planet Earth.

Have fun playing in your global warming.

Can someone make a political cartoon with Gore, Obama, and the Clintons trudging down Mt. Everest.

State science research grants these days almost always come attached to a ‘climate change’ research obligation. Witness the frankly ludicrous stories that climate change causes terrorism. http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/2007/09/first_climate_change_was_a.html

Climate Change is about controlling western populations not saving the planet – even if you do buy into the idea that CO2 is the devil and we are his apprentices for producing it.

They are driven by ideology, and don’t give a damn about facts.

They’re more afraid of not being invited to upper-crust cocktail parties in NY and LA and London than they are of being caught lying – there’s no penalty to the latter, but the former is a tragedy.

Your average journalist makes your average ambulance-chaser look decent, kind and noble by comparison.

When will someone finally stand up to these people?

SoulGlo on April 11, 2008 at 6:44 PM

There are many people, including hundreds of scientests, who do stand up to this but they are rarely allowed a market to speak.

Talk radio host ‘Jason Lewis‘ has been hammering global warming for well over a year and there are others who also speak of its falesy.

I have been begging for “proof” of man-made global warming for atleast 8 years, I have not found one piece of proof. However I have found much proof that climite change is normal (a normal temperature differantial of the planet) 1) a farming community under the greenland ice cap 2)false data used in a 30 temperature history used to prove the globe has never been this hot before. 3)50 and 100 thousand year graphs showing we have been this warm many times in the past.

Yes many people are standing up, the msm will not give them a voice.

Romeo13 on April 11, 2008 at 6:48 PM

I was curious myself, so I tooled around her site a little. I think this says all you need to know about Jo. It comes from an attack she posted on her site against a writer’s article on biofuels.

I blame Capitalism, fairly and squarely for the Carbon Positive nature of most of the current generation of Biofuels.

Capitalism will eat itself…it’s doing so already. Hello, Recession ! I don’t need to spend my life fighting the forces of the “evil demon” Money. It’s killing itself.

Apparently, this is the kind of enlightened opinion she gained by becoming “sufficiently educated.”

Excellent point. I just finished Liberal Fascism a month ago and from my understanding, this clearly falls into that category. Certainly, it is a statism and a totalitarianism–all for the good of the whole, to hell with the individual.

second digit

AWESOME! I’m reading that book now. The cover jumped out at me at the airport and i just had to buy it.

isn’t that a tactic of fascism?
El Guapo on April 11, 2008 at 8:32 PM

Excellent point. I just finished Liberal Fascism a month ago and from my understanding, this clearly falls into that category. Certainly, it is a statism and a totalitarianism–all for the good of the whole, to hell with the individual.

Got that headline fixed for you…

Everybody should read the correspondences at the end of the chain of links. Their audacity and arrogance are breathtaking. They know the TRUTH, and anyone who thinks differently needs to be squelched. Why are we quibbling about trivial details like integrity and speech rights when the fate of the planet is at stake?

They’re like Branch Davidians with government grants.

by the way, anyone know if his claim:

For example, the ocean systems of temperature do not change in yearly time scales, and are massive heat sinks that have shown gradual and continual warming. It is only near-surface air temperatures that will be affected by La Nina, plus a bit of the lower atmosphere.

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i thought the ocean currents (thus temperatures too) played a major role along with the jet stream in both el nino and la nina. how do they play a role and yet not be affected by them? let’s not forget about the sun too. after all, sun activity fluctuates and influences everything here on God’s green Earth.

The idea that this is TRUTH, and not a theory in her own words, says all I need to know.

BTW: No one is talking about the crop problem, if the crops don’t make it into the field by about may 15, they won’t grow to full yield by harvest time. It takes about 3 weeks preparation time to get the fields ready for planting, they are now way to soggy for working … tick, tick, tick …

If you want to see how the ice age scare of the 70s went, here is a short video … Notice some of the names are the same, the tactics are the same, the hysteria is the same. It was just about ice, not warm. Funny, no?