Obama on small-town voters: Bitter, xenophobic, religious; Update: McCain camp unloads; Update: People “don’t need a president who looks down on them,” says Hillary; Update: Audio added; Update: Obama camp responds — weakly

posted at 4:44 pm on April 11, 2008 by Allahpundit

An outrageous Kinsleyan gaffe? Sure. But give it a day or so, to let the Jedi mind trick work its magic. Then the left will tell us what he “really meant”:

You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them…And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

What’s most offensive? The condescension displayed here by the intelligentsia’s candidate of choice? The sheer breadth of the stereotype, which would send Team Obama screaming from the rooftops if a white politician drew a similarly sweeping caricature of blacks? The crude quasi-Marxist reductionism of his analysis, which he first introduced in his speech on race vis-a-vis the root causes of whites’ “resentment” — namely, exploitation by the bourgeoisie in the form of corporations and D.C. lobbyists? Or is it the shocking inclusion of religion, of all things, in the litany of sins he recites? What on earth is that doing there, given His Holiness’s repeated invocations of the virtues of faith on the trail? Note the choice of verb, too. Why not just go the whole nine yards and call it the opiate of the masses?

If you missed the Standard’s post a few weeks ago on the various complaints about “distractions” that creep into Obama’s rhetoric, read it now. This is of a piece with it. Everything in the Obama universe, including gun rights evidently, that doesn’t fit his agenda is a byproduct of external forces conspiring to manipulate the masses to keep his agenda at bay. Exit question: How does Hillary leverage this? Does she dare get the video and stick it in an ad?

Update: She’s not going to get a video ad out of it. It wasn’t delivered as part of a speech; how could it have been, given the obnoxiousness of the rhetoric? He said it to a bunch of megarich donors in San Francisco last week. This is how he talks to the liberal elite.

Update: The best part of this story? It’s HuffPo, of all sites, that broke it. His disciples can’t even claim bias in the reporting.

Update: Here we go. Your move, Hillary.

Asked to respond, McCain adviser Steve Schmidt called it a “remarkable statement and extremely revealing.”

“It shows an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking,” Schmidt said. “It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans.”

Follow the link for Jonathan Martin’s assertion that Republicans are itching to “play the elitism card” against Obama, which is journo-speak for “itching to show the public just how elitist Obama is in reality.”

Update: Score. Go for the throat, shameless liar!

“It’s being reported that my opponent said that the people of Pennsylvania who face hard times are bitter,” Clinton said during a campaign event in Philadelphia. “Well that’s not my experience. As I travel around Pennsylvania. I meet people who are resilient, optimist positive who are rolling up their sleeves.”

“Pennsylvanians don’t need a president who looks down on them,” she said. “They need a president who stands up for them, who fights hard for your future, your jobs, your families.”

Update: An intriguing quote from KP:

“It comes off very badly,” Democratic strategist Kirsten Powers said of the small-town America remarks. “They are things that I think in a liberal world sound totally normal, and outside of that world I don’t know that he appreciates how it sounds. And it just sounds very elitist, and it sounds like he’s looking down on people.”

Update: HuffPo’s posted the audio. Sounds like an accurate transcription to me.

Update: Obama answers. No denial, no clarification, just an awkward change of subject to McCain. When does he deliver the Great Speech on Condescension to get himself off the hook for this one?

“Senator Obama has said many times in this campaign that Americans are understandably upset with their leaders in Washington for saying anything to win elections while failing to stand up to the special interests and fight for an economic agenda that will bring jobs and opportunity back to struggling communities. And if John McCain wants a debate about who’s out of touch with the American people, we can start by talking about the tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans that he once said offended his conscience but now wants to make permanent,”


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You mean Temple, I am not a Christian. I have been attending Temple more lately, with my parents and our family, and also because I am planning my wedding.

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:32 PM

Congrats, even though you seem misguided, hopefully your future husband can help straighten you out. :)

Chakra Hammer on April 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM

And so do people in NYC and in Milwaukee, and in Dtroit, and in Chicago and in Los Angeles and in Philadelphia and other large cities across the country.

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:14 PM

No, city people and the rest of America are not just the same. One isn’t necessarily better than the other but they are certainly different. You must have already known this or else you wouldn’t be defending Obama’s stereotypically negative view of rural America. You can’t successfully argue Obama is right, that rural American’s are different from the rest of America, (being worse), then turn around and argue that they are the same when it suits your purposes.

FloatingRock on April 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM

The real Obama as arived !!

thmcbb on April 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM

Thanks Nozzle. =)

linlithgow on April 11, 2008 at 11:36 PM

FloatingRock on April 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM

I saw the flaws in the argument, also.. >:}

Chakra Hammer on April 11, 2008 at 11:39 PM

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:32 PM

I’m not calling you out, April. Just an example of how words should be taken at face value. Spin is for dKos.

jaime on April 11, 2008 at 11:44 PM

I don’t now whether Jamiel Shaw’s family is on the Right, but they have the death of their son to squarely blame on illegal immigration.

baldilocks on April 11, 2008 at 11:25 PM

I am not pro illegal immigration, however I have to agree with Bill O’Reilly on this one, and I haven’t agreed with him allot of late.

There are many on The Right who would prefer less people coming in from other places, illegally or legally, and it tends to become a major beef akin to the way the Left spins out about W.

Even Ann Coulter’s reference to being a snooty wasp in her last column was spot on in dealing with those of a different stripe.

Here’s a little inside scoop about white people: We’re not thinking about you. Especially WASPs. We think everybody is inferior, and we are perfectly charming about it.

She’s correct in some cases.

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Barry, maybe just maybe if they were political elitists who made millions from using their public noteriety to write best-selling books and their wives had 400K/year jobs doing next to nothing then maybe they wouldn’t be bitter…As it is they are making 50-70K/year and giving thirty percent of that to various taxing authorities while they send their kids to failing schools and are generally afraid to walk the streets of their local communities at night because of fear of criminals who should be behind bars but aren’t because of pick your reason…liberal judges, police hand-cuffed by excessive rules and regulations, revolving door justice…I could go on but I think you get it…At least, that is what everybody says. Or, do you get it Barry?

Nozzle on April 11, 2008 at 11:46 PM

Now if he was wrong to assume that small town folks don’t have jobs, then he would also be wrong to attribute their bitterness, gun tottingness, and religious zeal to such.

PresidenToor on April 11, 2008 at 9:35 PM

BO was wrong on so many levels that is is staggering. first people do not cling to the 2nd amendment because of bitterness they cling to the 2nd amendment because they understand it is what protects all the rest. People do not cling to religion because of bitterness but because that is how they were raised, it is what they believe, in fact most small town people think it is the evils of city life that has caused most of the problems. Ask 10 people from small town America how to solve the Nations problems and 9 will tell you to get rid of New york, LA and DC. Reglion is not something we cling to it is something we embrace to better our lives, to share in the greatness that is God. He is wrong about anti-immigrant small towns. Small towns accept immigration even welcome it when it is done legally and when those immigrants do not try to come in and change the way of life of the small town. Assimilation of both cultures is the norm in small towns. Small towns understand that you can not have two, three, four different cultures in a small space and coexist in a peacefull way. Unlike a big city with is space, cultures can not carve out their own special enclaves. For the small town to function and grow everyone must pull in the same direction. If not you get gangs, crime, hate. He is wrong about the economy of small towns. Most small towns are less expensive to live in, and have a less stressful lifestyle. People are far from bitter in small towns because of economics. Those that are tend to move into the cities or immigrate to other places within the country for a better paying job. In fact it is the big cities that are populated with the bitter rejects of small towns.

unseen on April 11, 2008 at 11:48 PM

688 comments and counting over at the Daily Kaos on this one. I didn’t even make it to number 20 and my profanity meter was already pegging out. It’s not looking good Hilly.

labrat on April 11, 2008 at 11:49 PM

Obama and Michelle: two Affirmative Action parasites in love

It’s interesting to hear Obama make fun of the working people who didn’t get race-based advantages to enter Ivy League universities and cushy Law Firm jobs.

Like I said: a true, legally verifiable bastard…

TexasJew on April 11, 2008 at 11:49 PM

April has me confused. Is this a big deal or not?

chief on April 11, 2008 at 11:50 PM

BO was wrong on so many levels that is is staggering. first people do not cling to the 2nd amendment because of bitterness they cling to the 2nd amendment because they understand it is what protects all the rest. People do not cling to religion because of bitterness but because that is how they were raised, it is what they believe, in fact most small town people think it is the evils of city life that has caused most of the problems. Ask 10 people from small town America how to solve the Nations problems and 9 will tell you to get rid of New york, LA and DC.

Actually many of my parents friends in other smaller towns always comment on how low our crime rate is in NY thanks to Rudy.

You guys have much worse crime, so NYC is not a factor in that debate crimewise.

Maybe people still have that Tennessee Ernie Ford idea that if you come to visit the Ricardos you’ll get vamped by a big city woman…

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:54 PM

She’s correct in some cases.

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:45 PM

No she is not.

whites are no more racist than blacks, than asians, than arabs, than Indians. Until the other cultres and races come to grips with this fact and stop blaming whitey for all of racism we are doomed to have racism in this world. Most people I know of every race sees people as equals at first. It is only their actions that cause people to loss respect for the individual not his/her skin color. I have lost respect for BO, for McCain and for Hillary because of their actions not because one is black, one is old and one is a woman. It is because they are all liars, cheats and political whores.

unseen on April 11, 2008 at 11:58 PM

The problem is you guys are the elitist, you choose to believe that he said what you think he said so you can prop yourself up as better than the rest of the country.

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Apparently you’ve never seen the district level electoral maps from ’00 and ’04. We’re not dealing with absolutes here, but there is certainly a difference. It’s a fact.

Defending Obama’s elitism by accusing the subjects of his statements, (the victims, to use popular liberal terminology), of being the real elitists is beyond absurd.

FloatingRock on April 11, 2008 at 11:58 PM

April has me confused. Is this a big deal or not?

chief on April 11, 2008 at 11:50 PM

Only if ShillBilly becomes the next President….

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:00 AM

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:54 PM

I never mentioned crime rates. Crime was not the point. It is the lifestyle that people in NY, LA and DC try to ram down our throats like PCcorrectness, like seperation of God from our daily lives, like trying to dictate our gun rights, like trying to bring your social norms into our sphere of influence. Basically the big cities way of life is not ours and instead of respecting that difference those in the ciies act like a bunch of know-it-all busybodies that just need to prove that their life has meaning.

unseen on April 12, 2008 at 12:04 AM

Maybe people still have that Tennessee Ernie Ford idea that if you come to visit the Ricardos you’ll get vamped by a big city woman…

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Heh. You mean I won’t? Dang.

BTW, congrats on the forthcoming nuptials. Hope you have a long happy life together.

It’s been fun but time for bed. 7:30 tee time, then couch potato all afternoon watching the Masters.

BacaDog on April 12, 2008 at 12:06 AM

The problem is you guys are the elitist, you choose to believe that he said what you think he said so you can prop yourself up as better than the rest of the country.

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Apparently you’ve never seen the district level electoral maps from ’00 and ’04. We’re not dealing with absolutes here, but there is certainly a difference. It’s a fact.

Defending Obama’s elitism by accusing the subjects of his statements, (the victims, to use popular liberal terminology), of being the real elitists is beyond absurd.

FloatingRock on April 11, 2008 at 11:58 PM

That’s your opinion and I have mine. Having values and believeing in God and Country is not just indigenous to Middle America, sorry.

And that is not at all what Obama said, I was answering a commenter here.

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:06 AM

But I thought that The Messiah was supposed to “bring us together”.
Wait a minute – wasn’t that Nixon’s theme in 1968? And how did that work out?

In fact, all BHO has done with this horrific out-of-his-league campaign of his is to have exacerbated the whole tedious racial theme and whipped a lot of people into a frenzy. And there’s a lot more coming; this latest gaffe will prove to be a real disaster for him. Watch those negative numbers explode over the next 2 weeks!

At least Obama may have buried the Clintons for good. However, I feel that he is, in the end, far more dangerous than those scumbags ever were, since he adds an additional layer of stupidity, unpreparedness and racial tripe that even the Clintonoids could never quite match.

TexasJew on April 12, 2008 at 12:09 AM

For those participants clinging to just reading what Obama said – do yourselves a favor and listen to the audio of what he said – and hear the condescension in his voice and his delivery. He clearly was speaking off the cuff and it reflected his true feelings. Given the rule against any attendees recording the meeting, he obviously didn’t fear that his words would be captured and disseminated.

In addition to lacking judgment, what he lacks most of all is respect for his fellow countrymen. And in my mind that disqualifies him from ever being President.

in_awe on April 12, 2008 at 12:09 AM

People are far from bitter in small towns because of economics. Those that are tend to move into the cities or immigrate to other places within the country for a better paying job. In fact it is the big cities that are populated with the bitter rejects of small towns.

unseen on April 11, 2008 at 11:48 PM

And a lot of city people, bitter about the hectic rat-race of city life, move to the country and take a cut in pay in trade for a less stressful life.

FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 12:10 AM

FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 12:10 AM

Agreed, most people that are in small towns after ages 18-22 have chosen that lifestyle and are far from bitter.

unseen on April 12, 2008 at 12:13 AM

Maybe people still have that Tennessee Ernie Ford idea that if you come to visit the Ricardos you’ll get vamped by a big city woman…

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Heh. You mean I won’t? Dang.

BTW, congrats on the forthcoming nuptials. Hope you have a long happy life together.

It’s been fun but time for bed. 7:30 tee time, then couch potato all afternoon watching the Masters.

BacaDog on April 12, 2008 at 12:06 AM

Come on up here my Middle American friend, my man and I will take you out on the town and get ya vamped by one of them evil city women…you know the kind with no morals, no values, no religion, no honesty, no patriotism, no integrity, no sympathy, no agency, no scruples, no hope, no faith, no charity, no direction, no future… :)

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:14 AM

BTW, congrats on the forthcoming nuptials. Hope you have a long happy life together.

Thanks BacaDog, sweet dreams, good game tomorrow!!

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:15 AM

That’s your opinion….

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:06 AM

Yes it is. After reading your comments here my considered opinion is that, like Obama, you are an elitist.

FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 12:19 AM

FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 12:19 AM

“elitist” has a ring of truth to it.

unseen on April 12, 2008 at 12:21 AM

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:14 AM

Hotair has been hijacked.

sheesh on April 12, 2008 at 12:26 AM

Yes it is. After reading your comments here my considered opinion is that, like Obama, you are an elitist.

FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 12:19 AM

FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 12:19 AM

“elitist” has a ring of truth to it.

unseen on April 12, 2008 at 12:21 AM

Oh my, for the love of pete, I guess I better find myself an exorcist….

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:27 AM

Asked to respond, McCain adviser Steve Schmidt called it a “remarkable statement and extremely revealing.”

“It shows an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking,” Schmidt said. “It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans.”

That coming from the McCain camp?

Gag me with a pitchfork.

“Americans wouldn’t pick lettuce for even $50/hour”

Murmurs from the crowd turned to booing. “Pay a decent wage!” one audience member shouted.

“I’ve heard that statement before,” McCain said before
threatening to leave.
. . .
But he took more questions, including a pointed one on his immigration plan.

McCain responded by saying immigrants were taking jobs nobody else wanted. He offered anybody in the crowd $50 an hour to pick lettuce in Arizona.

Shouts of protest rose from the crowd, with some accepting McCain’s job offer.

“I’ll take it!” one man shouted.

McCain insisted none of them would do such menial labor for a complete season. “You can’t do it, my friends.”

ROFLMAO!!!

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 12:33 AM

What’s the big deal?
Small town voters ARE xenophobic and religious.
Bitter? Uh, maybe not.
But for fu**’s sake the other two are truer than true.

Dave Rywall on April 12, 2008 at 12:34 AM

Oh my, for the love of pete, I guess I better find myself an exorcist….

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:27 AM

Nah, I would prescribe regular trips into the country with plenty of exposure to regular folks. I think you’ll find that although they may be different, they aren’t nearly as backwards as you think.

FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 12:39 AM

Oh my, for the love of pete, I guess I better find myself an exorcist….

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:27 AM

That would be a little extreme at this point. We should probably try some less drastic treatment plan first. And you must get over this Pete fellow. He probably never really loved you back anyway.

Sigy on April 12, 2008 at 12:41 AM

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:54 PM

I never mentioned crime rates. Crime was not the point. It is the lifestyle that people in NY, LA and DC try to ram down our throats like PCcorrectness, like seperation of God from our daily lives, like trying to dictate our gun rights, like trying to bring your social norms into our sphere of influence. Basically the big cities way of life is not ours and instead of respecting that difference those in the ciies act like a bunch of know-it-all busybodies that just need to prove that their life has meaning.

unseen on April 12, 2008 at 12:04 AM

You can thank Koch and then Rudy and now Bloomberg for the silly gun laws up here. And going to our range is very common and it’s quite popular, you all would be surprised.

As for the religion thing, my sibs and I went to Yeshiva, I had friends and neighbors that attended Catholic School and Episcopal Academy. We all grew up with religion in our lives.

You are referring to many of the transplants that come here from your neck of the woods. Like the gay people/gay youth that leave Middle America on a daily basis and flock to NY and SF for acceptance. Or those who move her to attend college from very Conservative homes.

Most Native New Yorkers do not espouse the values that you are painting us with using a broad brush.

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Hotair has been hijacked.

sheesh on April 12, 2008 at 12:26 AM

Perhaps, it’s starting to read like the Daily Kos or DU or HuffPo.

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:46 AM

M

ost Native New Yorkers do not espouse the values that you are painting us with using a broad brush.

Or rather those lack of values

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 12:48 AM

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 12:33 AM

It’s over dude. Hit the Music!

Tequila for everyone. Yaaaaaaahhhhh…

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 1:06 AM

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 12:33 AM

Glad someone pointed that out. I too thought it was more than a little hypocritical. Of course, look who we’re talking about…

Grayson on April 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 12:33 AM

Man it feels great to rub victory in your salted wound. I’m gonna make a pinatta of Obama stuffed with zvisas just for you and destory it tomorrow while having Margarita and Carne Asada. For months I’ve heard your paranoia, scare tactics and how we should round up thirty million people that we basically told to come here and do our dirty work. Enjoy the fiesta jerkoff. Hope that Straight Talk Express didn’t run you over too bad.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 1:22 AM

I don’t get this whole “country people are hicks” thread.

Are we supposed to agree with that idiot Obama, now that he has just committed political suicide?
Or is everyone not living in a large city supposed to be a bitter gun-caressing holyrolling hillbilly?

TexasJew on April 12, 2008 at 1:22 AM

I’m gonna make a pinatta of Obama stuffed with zvisas just for you and destory it tomorrow while having Margarita and Carne Asada. For months I’ve heard your paranoia, scare tactics and how we should round up thirty million people that we basically told to come here and do our dirty work. Enjoy the fiesta jerkoff. Hope that Straight Talk Express didn’t run you conservatives over too bad.

Latest quote from the McCain campaign.

jaime on April 12, 2008 at 1:51 AM

This quote and subsequent non-appology is the very reason Hillary is still in it and taking it all the way to the convention.

The Supers will be idiots not to throw it to her over this catastrophe waiting to happen.

SuperCool on April 12, 2008 at 2:06 AM

Enjoy the fiesta jerkoff.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 1:22 AM

It’s widely known that liberals resort to personal attacks for lack of valid arguments.

FloatingRock on April 12, 2008 at 2:06 AM

It’s over dude. Hit the Music!

Tequila for everyone. Yaaaaaaahhhhh…

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 1:06 AM

Don’t you ever get tired of me telling you that only two kinds of people make such firm predictions so far out – geniuses and complete fools and you aren’t in the first group and never will be?

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 2:07 AM

I am not going to say anything. I just don’t need to.

Wadda ya know!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

winemkr on April 12, 2008 at 2:11 AM

Glad someone pointed that out. I too thought it was more than a little hypocritical. Of course, look who we’re talking about…

Grayson on April 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM

HELP PICK LETTUCE AT $50 PER HOUR FOR SENATOR JOHN McCAIN

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 2:12 AM

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 2:12 AM

Zzzzz… Ain’t going away..

Obama insulted the whole country.

Bunch of religious rednecks.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 2:31 AM

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 2:12 AM
Obama could really use your support after again insulting the very people you supposedly represent. Why not head to Pennsylvania or Indiana to work those phones? Because Mav’s got it locked up. Him and Lindsey are probably talking about how they are gonna have an new interior decorator give Air Force One a new look. Something more “Maverick”. lol

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 2:33 AM

I’m so confused…

I was born in Mpls MN, lived on a farm in rural MN, lived in Germany, Sicily, The Azores, Jacksonville FL, Memphis TN, Chicago IL and now in Los Angeles CA. I am married to an Asian, I have a Spanish (no, for reals, from Madrid) sister-in-law, a Guatemalan brother-in-law and a niece who is half black. Oh, and a few white in-laws too. I’m German/Irish myself.

Someone please help me. Which pandering POS politician am I supposed to pull the lever for? I was rural for a while, so am I one of those hicks Obama was talking about? Or am I a victim now that I live in Los Angeles? Am I a warmonger because I served in the military like my grandfather, my uncle, my father, my brother and my oldest son?

Am I an evil exploitive capitalist overlord because I have a business? Does trying to succeed make me evil? Would that put me back into the victim class by circular logic?

Come on people, give a brother a chance. Help me out here.

What about you AprilOrbit? You seem to have a handle on everything. Who am I?

TheCulturalist on April 12, 2008 at 2:34 AM

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 2:31 AM

Dude it took me close to three months, but I figured it out over Natural Light and good Jams via Oasis. Here it is.

MB4 is so obviously for Obama.

Michelle Barack 4 Years

It’s them dude.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 2:41 AM

Let me help you out “THE CHOSEN ONE”. If you can ever get a brain and a clue maybe you can keep up with me a little better. It would be more interesting for both of us that way.

Please spend lots of time, you will need it, at this web site.

http://www.GetClueAndBrainHere.com

or if you prefer, which you probably will, this one.

http://www.ObtenerCerebroUunaPistaAqui.com

BTW, what were you chosen for anyway and by whom?

As an exhibit by P.T. Barnum or as a confused lab rat trying to make it’s way through a maze by a scientist with far too much time on his hands?

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 2:49 AM

MB4 is so obviously for Obama.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 2:41 AM

“THE CHOSEN ONE” is so obviously in ever more desperate need of a brain and a clue.

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 2:52 AM

Even Republican politicians have mixed feelings.Right now they are wining:

“Damn’t, how am I supposed to gain support if I can’t include some Pork?”

“I guess we’ll actually have to think of new ideas and better ways of governing.

“But, that’s hard! I came to congress to sleep with high dollar call girls and be worshiped. What’s this caring about my constituents, crap?”

“I know. Looks like there is a new Maverick in town. He won’t sign any of these pathetic bills that have passed in recent years. Don’t worry Mitch, you’ll do great back in Kentucky in your private practice!”

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 2:52 AM

TheCulturalist on April 12, 2008 at 2:34 AM

“That’s plain hokum. If you can’t convince ‘em, confuse ‘em: It’s an old political trick.”
Harry S. Truman

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 2:56 AM

Vote for Checks & Balances. Vote Republican.

Power Corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 2:59 AM

“That’s plain hokum. If you can’t convince ‘em, confuse ‘em: It’s an old political trick.”
Harry S. Truman

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 2:56 AM

It’s working. I’m completely befuddled.

LOL

TheCulturalist on April 12, 2008 at 3:02 AM

Michelle Barack 4 Years

It’s them dude.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 2:41 AM

No, no, THE CHOSEN ONE, it’s Michelle Barak 4 You.

Entelechy on April 12, 2008 at 3:03 AM

The problem is you guys are the elitist, you choose to believe that he said what you think he said so you can prop yourself up as better than the rest of the country.

You paint this canvas highlighting us big city folk as never going to church, having no values and disregarding the Constitution. Like we have no idea how to be good Americas and law abiding citizens.

Please, get off your high horse for heaven sake, we’re equal.

AprilOrit on April 11, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Wait, were you not the one on another thread who claimed to be the authority on all things Florida because some third cousin of yours works in the state now? You pretty much stated that my state was full of freaks if I recall, but I am the elitist?

Sorry, but people who choose to live in filth covered cities are usually insecure, narcissistic individuals who take every opportunity to remind everyone what city they live in. They are the ones that usually proclaim to be the most educated about the environment yet have spent 90% of their lives on carpet or concrete. Basically just phony people in MY experiences and I have been to every major city in this country and several outside.

Oops…there is that small town bitterness bubbling up…

ClassicCon on April 12, 2008 at 3:05 AM

Vote for Checks & Balances. Vote Republican.

Power Corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 2:59 AM

You’re joking, right? You are partisan to the end.

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 3:08 AM

Obama insulted the whole country.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 2:31 AM

Why do some people insist on feeling so insulted all the time?

Why is that?

Is it a cousin malady to being a victim?

I’m not insulted and I grew up, in part anyway, in a place so far out in the sticks that not even God could find the place.

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 3:12 AM

You’re joking, right? You are partisan to the end.

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 3:08 AM

I’m a former Rudy supporter, not sure what that means..

Yes, i’m a Republican.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:12 AM

Why do some people insist on feeling so insulted all the time?

Why is that?

Is it a cousin malady to being a victim?

I’m not insulted and I grew up, in part anyway, in a place so far out in the sticks that not even God could find the place.

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 3:12 AM

Well to say that people in small towns “cling” to religion and guns because of economic strife is pretty offensive.

Its not even observable, its just idiotic.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:17 AM

What’s most offensive?

For me it’s the hypocrisy. The guy’s website claims he wants to “secure the border” and re-negotiate NAFTA. I guess he’s feeling some of that same frustration he attributes to rural Pennsylvanians.

John on April 12, 2008 at 3:19 AM

Need to see video of a guy that just lost his job moping in his house hugging his shotgun and reading the bible.. :rolls eyes:

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:21 AM

And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them

There we go.. everyone is a racist..

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:25 AM

Pelosi: “Listen hear Barack. We supported you, we gave you cover, you said you could deliver. Now we find out your pastor is a racist and your wife is one too? Not to mention she can’t keep her mouth shut about us you hating this god damn country america”.

Obama: “Nancy babe, relax. Try this(sniff sniff), it’ll keep you loose and ready for Hope and Change. We got these cracker capitalist right where we won’t them.”

Pelosi: “Your right Barack, that tastes good. China White? I thought so, it’s been a few months since I quit. My last time was the State of the Union. Anyways, Ok we’ll dig it for a while dude, but I’m a little worried about that damn McCain war criminal”.

Obama: Nan, your too tense, relax already. Here let me give you a shoulder rub. You’ve been working too hard. Michelle’s off hatin’ on white people down south. Let’s me and you retire to a late night Black Panther Party with lots of mad as hell brothers.”

Pelosi: Wow, Barack, you really know how to sweep a girl off her feet!”

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 12, 2008 at 3:26 AM

antipathy

1. a natural, basic, or habitual repugnance; aversion.
2. an instinctive contrariety or opposition in feeling.
3. an object of natural aversion or habitual dislike.

Synonyms 1. disgust, abhorrence, detestation, hatred.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:27 AM

You’re joking, right? You are partisan to the end.

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 3:08 AM

define “partisan” in the context of your statement please.

TheCulturalist on April 12, 2008 at 3:28 AM

And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to hate people who aren’t like them

Fixed, so us uneducated retarded rednecks can decipher it.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:32 AM

And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to hate people who aren’t like them

BTW, is that why Obama while in the City of Chicago purposefully segregated himself and his family into an all back church, that pay homage to Africa?

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:37 AM

Also, this brings Michelle Obama’s thesis into question.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:38 AM

Its not even observable, its just idiotic.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:17 AM

Then why are you so all fired “Obama insulted the whole country” insulted then?

Repeat after me.

I am not a victim!

I am not a victim!!

I AM NOT A VICTIM!!!

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 3:43 AM

Also, this brings Michelle Obama’s thesis into question.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:38 AM

Really? I found it quite clear.

Only my opinion, but I think she has played a big part in helping her hubby establish his urban street cred. Including which church they should (read: will) belong to. She wears the pants in that family, no question. IMHO… of course.

TheCulturalist on April 12, 2008 at 3:44 AM

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 3:43 AM

Obama’s is an Idiot, Obama’s an Idiot.

He can call me a racist all he wants, doesn’t make it so.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:47 AM

TheCulturalist on April 12, 2008 at 3:44 AM

That is one sick woman, race this.. race that.. race.. race .. race.. race… blahh…

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:48 AM

its like an obsession with those two.. :{

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:52 AM

That is one sick woman, race this.. race that.. race.. race .. race.. race… blahh…

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:48 AM

as they say… “you are what you eat”

TheCulturalist on April 12, 2008 at 3:52 AM

You guys crack me up.

But, Metalocalypse is over. Dethklok cracks me up too. Like South Park with a deathmetal sound track.

Some of us have to work tomorrow. Oh, wait, it is tomorrow. Damn…

TheCulturalist on April 12, 2008 at 3:56 AM

You’re joking, right? You are partisan to the end.

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 3:08 AM
define “partisan” in the context of your statement please.

TheCulturalist on April 12, 2008 at 3:28 AM

I am a Republican but when Republicans are wrong I speak up.

There has been so much corruption in the GOP, I was startled by Chakra’s statement.

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 3:59 AM

Its not even observable, its just idiotic.

Chakra Hammer on April 12, 2008 at 3:17 AM
Then why are you so all fired “Obama insulted the whole country” insulted then?

Repeat after me.

I am not a victim!

I am not a victim!!

I AM NOT A VICTIM!!!

MB4 on April 12, 2008 at 3:43 AM

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

AprilOrit on April 12, 2008 at 4:01 AM

Message to Obama: Those of us in “flyover country” are bitter and frustrated about clueless gits like you that run for president… that purport to be able to “Unite America” – balkanizing America is more like it.

Mainstream media, you’re carefully chosen candidates in this presidential race are sure zeros.

electric-rascal on April 12, 2008 at 5:54 AM

Just like his nasty honky granny, small town trash has been bred to have this antipathy.

JonRoss on April 12, 2008 at 6:23 AM

Isn’t affirmative action wonderful that a man so shallow and silly can get a law degree, run for the senate and now stand for POTUS?

sabbott on April 12, 2008 at 6:43 AM

This isn’t getting the coverage you might think…they still have Cheney’s sunglasses leading the news.

tomas on April 12, 2008 at 7:46 AM

I see the MSM is actively implementing their mind control mechanisms . . . I’ve seen nothing of this in the New York Times, LA Times, CNN web page, Washington Post, ABC web page, etc., etc., etc. It’s still early so I’ll keep looking but I’m not very optimistic about seeing it reported. If they can control your thoughts then they can influence your attitudes and ultimately your behavior. This insidious control and conditioning is the worst kind of tyranny.

rplat on April 12, 2008 at 7:52 AM

Lookr at this Bush picture

tomas on April 12, 2008 at 8:10 AM

rplat on April 12, 2008 at 7:52 AM

You’re right, but the MSM’s main function is no longer to present the news, but to present the spin after information they don’t want publicized is revealed. You have to get your news from places like this, or Rush (although, if it had been something about Hillary, they prob. would have gone with it, as they have chosen Obama.)

The MSM willingly ceding the news function to the alternative media is another amazing aspect of the culture wars. CBS news shutting down, newspapers in free-fall, liberal cable channels with no viewership, Hollywood liberals forced into silence as their careers tank (where’s Steisand and Clooney and Penn and Rosie and Oprah and Dixie Chicks and Affleck?)

It’s all great. The more they don’t cover news that people know about from other sources, the more their credibility fades. It’s a win-win for us.

JiangxiDad on April 12, 2008 at 8:19 AM

I just saw his Youtube response, and I have to say… he makes a lot of good points on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow

He worded the original statement in California clumsily but I think his overall point is fair, that often people will attach themselves to an issue or a specific cause because they’re disillusioned and don’t believe politicians will ever follow through on their economic promises.

Typhonsentra on April 12, 2008 at 8:26 AM

Funny we have such short memories here being that if we look at the posting and comments during the MCSHAMNESTY immigration fiasco…

His point would be proven.

HYP-O-CRITS R US strikes again.

TOPV on April 12, 2008 at 8:29 AM

but I think his overall point is fair, that often people will attach themselves to an issue or a specific cause because they’re disillusioned and don’t believe politicians will ever follow through on their economic promises.

Typhonsentra on April 12, 2008 at 8:26 AM

It’s been said many times tonight. Religion is the opiate of the masses. Why do you repeat it, but not give credit to the author. Barry was simply paraphrasing Karl Marx.

JiangxiDad on April 12, 2008 at 8:34 AM

Funny we have such short memories here being that if we look at the posting and comments during the MCSHAMNESTY immigration fiasco…TOPV on April 12, 2008 at 8:29 AM

You’re confused. That’s illegal immigration fiasco. Americans favor controlled, orderly, legal immigration.

When your own government no longer enforces the laws passed by the representatives of the people, it’s your right and duty to resist. T. Jefferson said words to that effect in the Declaration of Independence.

JiangxiDad on April 12, 2008 at 8:39 AM

I’m not buying this as a major gaffe. Sorry but does this come as a surprise as to how liberals think? There really isn’t anything untrue about what he has said here. The most inartful (to use the current favourite word) thing, perhaps, is to include religion in a list of things that might otherwise be taken as negatives. But it isn’t frankly incorrect to say that people in times of trouble or need turn to religion. In this regard this is much more of a “mis-speak” than Hillary telling us how she dodged sniper fire, or thumb-wrestled the emperor of Japan to win world war 2 or once drank a gallon of yak’s milk for a bet.

schiehallion on April 12, 2008 at 8:45 AM

I’ll take my religion and my guns, before I let the government
take total control.

tengger on April 12, 2008 at 9:08 AM

I’m not buying this as a major gaffe. Sorry but does this come as a surprise as to how liberals think?

It’s only a gaffe if you have a general election to win and need the support of the people you are insulting.

There really isn’t anything untrue about what he has said here. The most inartful (to use the current favourite word) thing, perhaps, is to include religion in a list of things that might otherwise be taken as negatives. But it isn’t frankly incorrect to say that people in times of trouble or need turn to religion.
schiehallion on April 12, 2008 at 8:45 AM

He said religion is the opiate of the masses. He said the desire to own and use a gun is the result of bitterness. His comments prove him to be out of touch with many Americans, but as you say, perfectly in touch with liberals. He is also out-of-touch with our founding principles with regard to a lot of things, but esp. the 2nd amendment and the reasons/need for it.

JiangxiDad on April 12, 2008 at 9:12 AM

Everyone in the MSM has been talking about how McCain could lose the “Mountain West,” like Nevada, New Mexico and especially Colorado.

I’d admit Colorado especially looks kind of shaky for Republicans this year.

But Obama may have just lost the entire “Mountain East” with this one comment.

This will damage him severely in West Virginia, Kentucky (he’s already hopelessly behind in this formerly trending blue state), Tennessee, Arkansas, North Carolina, middle Pennsylvania, and even Virginia.

Yes, Obama will suffer from this comment from Plain States Mid-Western voters. But I think the biggest fall-out will come from rural Whites in the Eastern Mountain states.

ericdondero on April 12, 2008 at 10:06 AM

You all think this story is being ignored?

Obama made a far more offensive statement the other day at a Pennsylvania Senior Citizens home, essentially threatening the Seniors with their SS checks if they didn’t subsidize the education of minority students now. This from the Chicago Trib.:

This morning his argument was about self-preservation, though, when he told a mixture of senior citizens and high school students that their future depends in large part on young people of color.

“Half the work force is going to be black or brown” in a few decades, the Democratic presidential candidate said at a townhall meeting at Great Valley High School. “If those kids are not educated . . . They’re the ones who are supposed to be paying our Social Security.”

On Wednesday, the argument was practical.

“If we haven’t taken care of them,” he said of minority students, “they won’t take care of us.”

Eric Dondero, Publisher
Libertarian Republican blog

ericdondero on April 12, 2008 at 10:10 AM

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