Let’s hear how this is Israel’s fault again

posted at 4:15 pm on April 11, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Israel has cut off fuel supplies to Gaza again after Hamas terrorists attacked and killed two civilians yesterday. The last time Israel cut off energy supplies, they received criticism from around the world for supposed “collective punishment” against the Gazans. However, this time they have an even better reason than before:

Israel said Thursday it had suspended fuel shipments to the Gaza Strip a day after Palestinian gunmen infiltrated Israel and shot dead two civilian workers at a distribution center that supplies all the fuel for Gaza’s 1.5 million residents.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Arye Mekel said that he did not know how long the fuel embargo would last but that officials needed time to investigate how the four attackers managed to slip through the tight security cordon that rings the narrow coastal strip. The attack took place at Nahal Oz, a fuel distribution center about a mile east of Gaza City, the territory’s major population center. ….

Gaza is already suffering from a severe economic blockade that has reduced the flow of goods into the territory to only humanitarian essentials. Human rights advocates said Thursday that even a relatively short stoppage of the fuel shipments could have drastic consequences in a place where reserves are nonexistent and basic supplies of industrial fuel, diesel and gasoline are running low.

“Israel has closed Gaza’s borders and doesn’t allow fuel to enter, except through Nahal Oz,” said Sari Bashi, executive director of the Israel-based human rights group Gisha. “So to close Nahal Oz is to choke the life out of Gaza.”

Maybe a better way of putting it is that Hamas is choking the life out of Gaza. Had Hamas not attacked the fuel distribution center that literally keeps Gazan lights lit, the Israelis would not have had to stop the distribution while it reconsiders security issues. Hamas bit the hand that feeds it, and the closure is the proper response.

Perhaps people don’t understand the commitment the Israelis make in providing energy supplies to Gaza:

Every week, 581,350 gallons of industrial fuel for the power plant, 211,400 gallons of diesel fuel and 20,000 gallons of gasoline pass through Nahal Oz, according to the Israeli Foreign Ministry.

Why should Israel continue to provide all of that material to Gaza when it puts their workers at the distribution center at risk? If Gazans want power, then they should see that their terrorists don’t strike Nahal Oz. It’s about time that the risk-reward decisions got borne by the Gazans rather than the Israelis, who deliver food and energy while Gazans deliver Qassams to Sderot and Ashkelon.

The Israelis should cease all exports to Gaza until the Palestinians guarantee security, all across the board. If they want to continue conducting rocket attacks on civilian centers and terrorist strikes on distribution workers, let them suffer the consequences of those decisions. If ordinary Gazans don’t like the consequences of Hamas’ actions, then Gazans need to eliminate Hamas themselves.


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“Collective punishment”?

No, collective (and appropriate) punishment would be expelling all Palestinians in Gaza to Egypt.

MadisonConservative on April 11, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Israelis will still get blamed using the exact same template that was used last time. Doesn’t matter, Hamas isn’t responsible for its own actions, just the jooooos are – which is the biggest racism of all

Defector01 on April 11, 2008 at 4:25 PM

It all started when he hit me back.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 11, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Ordinary Gazans may not know about the attack on the civilians. I would wager they’re told that the Israelis cut them off because they want Gazan men, women, and children to suffer even more.

RushBaby on April 11, 2008 at 4:26 PM

What, pray tell, is an “ordinary Gazan”? Are those the ones who give out candy on 9-11?

VolMagic on April 11, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Carter will fix all this. He has peanuts as an offering to Hamas.
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letget on April 11, 2008 at 4:31 PM

You think Egypt wants Gaza back? Not!

Poor Egypt. They had a nice, peaceful border with Israel to their NE. Now they have the murderous Iran-proxy Gazastan. As that famous statesmen Khadafi recently said in Damascus, Arabs, (and by extension muslims) are their own worst enemies.

JiangxiDad on April 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Please, facts don’t matter when it comes to the Palestinians. They can do no wrong. Israel should cut off all supplies to Gaza, but decades of world ‘leaders’ telling them how evil they are they’ll keep on supplying fuel and weapons to the enemy.

Lance Murdock on April 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM

I can see the banner headlines now:

“Israel concedes Palestine. Hamas and Hezb’allah hardest hit.”

SeniorD on April 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Palestinians will attack Israel right down to the last Palestinian.

Cicero43 on April 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Maybe Jimmuh Carter could ask Hamas how the bad guys got past security. You know, while he’s rubbing elbows with ‘em. Just sayin’.

iurockhead on April 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM

If ordinary Gazans don’t like the consequences of Hamas’ actions, then Gazans need to eliminate Hamas themselves.

Bingo!!!

darwin on April 11, 2008 at 4:33 PM

If you see a reporter blaming Israel for this, punch them right in the mouth.

MILLIONS OF LIVES have been lost because of politically-motivated lies – IT NEEDS TO STOP.

As a culture, we tolerate this constant lying, and as a culture, we need to stop doing it.

Americans have a great tradition of “going along to get along,” but there has to be a limit when a bunch of talking heads when the reporters keep siding with the terrorists – enough is enough.

We DO NOT HAVE a free press, we have a thoroughly corrupt press. It isn’t going to be fixed by changing laws or regulations, it will only change when the culture stops tolerating the constant lies.

Merovign on April 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM

This is really painful to follow.

Israel has to enforce the law and the right to exist unconditionally. They are not dealing with reasonable people and their critics will howl no matter what they do. This all needs to be settled before Iran gets the big one.

Hening on April 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Who run Palestine?

Who run Palestine??

Embargo ON!!

/sorry, had to do it.

wise_man on April 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Why is there a fence between Egypt and Gaza?

Akzed on April 11, 2008 at 4:37 PM

This all boils down to ‘we have nothing against X people, just X government’.

After WWII the West abandonded the concept that people were responsible for their own government. Until we have the GUTS and the GUMBALLS to reinstate that kind of foreign policy then we will continue to be USED AS THE CHUMPS WE ARE.

Limerick on April 11, 2008 at 4:41 PM

I’d like to know how many of the other people that post here that are vets have ever seen a refugee camp that has paved roads and ten story apartment buildings.

Mortis on April 11, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Palestinians are like spoil rich girls who can do no wrong. URGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lance Murdock on April 11, 2008 at 4:42 PM

What, pray tell, is an “ordinary Gazan”? Are those the ones who give out candy on 9-11?

VolMagic on April 11, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Amen to that brother…I’ll never forgive them for celebrating in the streets after 9-11. These “ordinary Gazan’s” hate us and the Israeli’s no matter what we do or don’t do.

What little sympathy I had for them before 9-11 all went out the window and will NEVER come back. They reap what they sow!

Liberty or Death on April 11, 2008 at 4:44 PM

OT: OBAMA what a douche bag, from the Politico:

‘And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations’…

Lance Murdock on April 11, 2008 at 4:45 PM

“The chickens have come home to ROOST in (Gaza)!!!!!”

-Famous Racist Muslim/Christian Pastor that Obama never listens to

Hening on April 11, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Why is there a fence between Egypt and Gaza?

What fence? Oh, you mean the wall not of apartheid.

gabriel sutherland on April 11, 2008 at 4:50 PM

I hate to say this, but sadly, it is Israel’s fault.
It’s Israel’s fault because they allowed themselves to be saddled with a spineless set of frauds like Olmert, Peretz, Peres and Livni.

The Kassams that are daily being sent into Sderot should be amswered instantly by a huge, terrifying and very lethal response. If Mexico sent rockets into the town I live in, less than a mile away, I would expect my government to blast the holy crap out of them. And not “proportionately”, either.

Most Israelis feel this way, and they are helpless while they face attack after attack and their “leaders” do nothing.

TexasJew on April 11, 2008 at 5:13 PM

And Hamas was stealing half the fuel that was being delivered:

China’s Xinhua news agency seemed to stray from the approved script this week in registering complaints by station owners that Hamas was taking a cut of the fuel supplies before releasing the rest to the general public. “They seize the fuel to ensure that their cars will not stop and that [Hamas leader Ismail] Haniyeh’s convoy will continue to work,” one disgruntled driver told Xinhua, whose report also noticed that “instead of lining up for fuel supply, vehicles of Hamas police and security services bypass the long queues and go straight to the electric fuel pump.”

Meryl Yourish on April 11, 2008 at 5:28 PM

Has the call been made yet to Netanyahu?????

chief65 on April 11, 2008 at 5:29 PM

They have a coastline,they have a port, they have lots of Arab friends with plenty of oil. Let them import it and refine it themselves. They wanted Israel out of Gaza, fine they’re out. They still expect the free fuel though? To hell with that. Stop killing and fighting and act like a nation dammit. Can’t bring yourselves to act like a civilized people? Pound sand, bitches.

Sefton on April 11, 2008 at 5:33 PM

If Mexico sent rockets into the town I live in, less than a mile away, I would expect my government to blast the holy crap out of them. And not “proportionately”, either.

But since Mexico just sends criminals, drug dealers, and rapists, our government gets out its kneepads for them. Amirite?

Grayson on April 11, 2008 at 5:35 PM

The Israelis should cease all exports to Gaza until the Palestinians guarantee security, all across the board.

In your wildest dreams!

This is Israel of the 21st century, the creation of Condi Rice and George W. Bush and Olmert.

It’s surrender time baby!

Indy Conservative on April 11, 2008 at 5:46 PM

What do you do with a dog that bites the hand that feeds it?

njcommuter on April 11, 2008 at 6:33 PM

What do you do with a dog that bites the hand that feeds it?

njcommuter on April 11, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Obviously, show it your other hand and expect something different!

Grayson on April 11, 2008 at 6:49 PM

What do you do with a dog that bites the hand that feeds it?

njcommuter on April 11, 2008 at 6:33 PM

I once had a dog that did that to me. I bit its tail – hard- and it never tried that again!

OldEnglish on April 11, 2008 at 8:48 PM

TexasJew on April 11, 2008 at 5:13 PM

Absolutely! BTW, it is obvious that this particular attack was designed to produce this very response, just as Carter goes to parley with the thugs.

OldEnglish on April 11, 2008 at 8:52 PM

Once the security issue is resolved, Israel should agree to “TALK” about resuming shipments if—and only if—Corporal Gilad Shalit is released unharmed.

It’s been almost 2 years, long past time for Israel to put his case front and center.

If he’s no longer alive….well, I guess the Gazans’ don’t have a very good negotiating position. Boo hoo.

jeanneb on April 11, 2008 at 8:58 PM

If the current leadership of Israel does not see the clear and present danger for her survival, I wonder, is it 1941 for her?

jojostan on April 11, 2008 at 9:03 PM

Palestinians are like spoil rich girls who can do no wrong. URGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lance Murdock on April 11, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Funny comparison, considering a majority live under the poverty line.

mycowardice on April 11, 2008 at 9:54 PM

Palestinians are like spoil rich girls who can do no wrong. URGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lance Murdock on April 11, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Funny comparison, considering a majority live under the poverty line.

mycowardice on April 11, 2008 at 9:54 PM

:::Sigh!:::

OldEnglish on April 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM

The Israelis should cease all exports to Gaza until the Palestinians guarantee security, all across the board. If they want to continue conducting rocket attacks on civilian centers and terrorist strikes on distribution workers, let them suffer the consequences of those decisions. If ordinary Gazans don’t like the consequences of Hamas’ actions, then Gazans need to eliminate Hamas themselves.

That would be nice, but it won’t happen.

xplodeit on April 12, 2008 at 12:26 AM

So-called ‘humane’ sanctions, because the people are able to continue existing forever under them, only subject the population of the target government to a neverending misery. The only sane use of sanctions is to make them hit hard with no exceptions, so that the target government must capitulate rather than by its inaction extinguish the lives of its people.

The very idea of sanctions is to hold innocent people hostage…there is no dressing it up in nice-nice, and it’s always better to force an end to them quickly.

James on April 12, 2008 at 11:59 AM

” Murdered Israelis cause hardship in Gaza”

Johan Klaus on April 12, 2008 at 1:52 PM

The Israelis should cease all exports to Gaza until the Palestinians guarantee security, all across the board. If they want to continue conducting rocket attacks on civilian centers and terrorist strikes on distribution workers, let them suffer the consequences of those decisions. If ordinary Gazans don’t like the consequences of Hamas’ actions, then Gazans need to eliminate Hamas themselves.

Capt. Ed: Nice to see another person following these issues agree with me on this. I’d like to see economic warfare come into play here, alongside precision strikes and commando raids as necessary against Hamas & the rest (i.e. Fatah, Hezbollah, al Qaeda) in Gaza for starters. At the most – re-enact the Sherman March and take out the war machine to start repeating a good & emancipating part of American history.

HotAirJosef on April 12, 2008 at 6:40 PM

Actually, I think Israel has the balance right on this. If they cut off all supplies to Gaza it really will be a total disaster area, and no one wants that. It would be a PR disaster, and it would invite the kind of sanctions against Israel that it could do without. By supplying just enough fuel, food and medicine to the Gazans to keep them going without bringing down international ire, the Israelis are striking a balance.

My personal view is that the Gazans should be won over with positive words. Punishing people, particularly when they are ignorant and uneducated and brainwashed like the Palestinians are, does not achieve compliance. Firing rockets into Israel does not make the Israelis compliant; in the same way, punishing Gazans will not make them compliant. Attacks harden opinion against the attacker. Another way needs to be found.

I am of the view that Israel makes its case poorly to the rest of the world. I’ve seen Israeli PR people take many different tacks when dealing with the media over here in the UK, but each time they seem to miss the point. Speaking as someone who lived during the years of IRA terrorism, I know for a fact that it makes you bitter when you are under threat from people who hate you unconditionally and want to kill you. You see things through the prism of someone who is considered a target. The Israelis are seeing things through this same perspective, but cannot understand why people who are living comfortably in other nations don’t see things as they do. They feel that they are being condemned unfairly, but are trying to explain their actions to people who are not living under the same threat and have no concept of what it feels like to be threatened by terrorists.

If I were an Israeli explaining my point of view to the world, I would approach it this way: begin by explaining that Israel wants peace. This may seem like a given, but a lot of people out there don’t get this. Many people think that Israel is happy to live bordering a neighbour in a constant state of war. Make it clear that it is not good for the economy and the psychology of its citizens to live next to a belligerent neighbour. In the same breath, say how nice it would be for everyone if the Palestinians were positive, friendly neighbours. War costs all parties.

Then go on to say that Israel did not start the war with the Muslims. Historically they were attacked first. They were not the aggressor. This is something that is often glossed over by anti-Israel campaigners.

Then go on to say that Israel has been depicted by Muslims for many years as the enemy of all Palestinians, and that Palestinian children are brought up on this view. Therefore Israel finds itself under a real and genuine threat, and one they cannot simply wish away. Then ask the question: how would the people who criticize Israel deal with this threat? Show them the ridiculousness of what the appeasers are suggesting: passively accepting rocket attacks that kill and maim people every year indefinitely.

Don’t say things like ‘this is unacceptable and we must fight back.’ Let the people you are making the case to come to this conclusion. People react better when they reach a conclusion like this on their own, rather than have it fed to them.

Finally – and this is going to be hard – end on a positive note. Always, always end an explanation of your actions on a positive note. Tell people that you hope for a way to reach a peaceful settlement. Let people know you really want to reach out to the average Palestinian to try and show them that you are not their enemy. Let the world know that you do not choose to live in fear and under threat, and do not wish this on the Palestinians either. Even if you can’t see how peace can be accomplished, it plays well when you make conciliatory statements.

Palestinians always tell the story as if they are victims. Israelis, to counter this, should always tell their side of the story as if they are the peacemakers, reaching out but being spurned.

The problem is that Israel seems to be so clumsy when explaining itself. This is made worse by the excellent manipulation of a sympathetic media by the Palestinians. Israel may have a great military, but it has a poor PR wing.

Just my thoughts.

Daniel

dcpolwarth on April 13, 2008 at 1:50 AM