TIZA Headmaster: We’re too incompetent to operate a flagpole
posted at 12:00 pm on April 10, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Yesterday I linked to the Katherine Kersten column about the state-funded madrassa in Minnesota, Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy (TIZA). Today, local ABC affiliate KSTP follows up on the TIZA controversy and uncovers a couple of more issues in its operation within the public-school system. For instance, Minnesota law requires all public schools to fly the American flag, which TIZA does not do. Why?
State law requires the school to fly an American flag during school hours, however no flag flies outside of TIZA Academy.
Zaman told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS he didn’t know how to work the flagpole.
One might think that the first order of business at TIZA is to find teachers who can figure out how to work a flagpole. How much training does it require? Even a trial-and-error approach would produce the correct result after a couple of tries. If nothing else, it serves as an intelligence threshold for the education of Minnesota children. Anyone too incompetent to work a rope-and-pulley system has no business teaching anyone anything.
KSTP also reports that TIZA is sponsored by Islamic Relief USA, based in California. TIZA has insisted that it is not a religious organization or sponsored by any religious organizations. The website of the charity outlines many excellent causes, especially educating women around the world. Given that girls in the US have equal access to public and private education as boys, though, one has to wonder why Islamic Relief would choose to spend its resources in Minnesota rather than Malaysia or Pakistan.
Something doesn’t add up at TIZA, and it’s not just the math program.
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Jeez, my 8 year old can run Old Glory up the flag pole at her school.
This dude is a headmaster?
He’s such a liar…all this school is is a madrassa. Lets call it like it is, mmmkay?
Pulchritudinous Patriot on April 10, 2008 at 12:05 PM
At my kids school it’s the students that put up the flag, and most consider it an honor. I don’t know if they had to take classes on how to do it. /sarc
Once,though, when I was walking in I noticed they were putting the Arizona flag on top. I pointed it out to them and they said it doesn’t matter! The school secretary had a different opinion when I told her!
redshirt on April 10, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Tell her she can light the flag on fire 1st, & she’ll run it up the pole in 30 seconds flat.
jgapinoy on April 10, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Revoke the teacher certifications for all self-identified incompetents!!
Problem solved!!!
landlines on April 10, 2008 at 12:07 PM
shehejgapinoy on April 10, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Actually I believe it. Pulleys can be sooooo complicated.
TooTall on April 10, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Let’s forget that this is a madrassa and not allowed for a minute, OK?
The headmaster, who leads the teachers educating the kids, isn’t smart enough to operate…a flag pole?
amerpundit on April 10, 2008 at 12:09 PM
The fact is, Islam doesn’t allow for allegiances to any but Allah (not the Pundit). This is just a reflection of that fact.
bikermailman on April 10, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Well, the good news is that if he can’t work a flagpole, a pipe bomb is probably beyond his abilities as well.
Think_b4_speaking on April 10, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Get an undercover operative in there. Hundred bucks says they regularly stream video straight from Saudi Arabia.
MadisonConservative on April 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM
If flag-raising instructions ain’t in the Koran, there’s your answer.
corona on April 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM
if they can’t operate something as basic as a flagpole, then file this under another reason to homeschool…
ocbrat on April 10, 2008 at 12:13 PM
BTW, I was honored to raise the flag at my school several times in 5th 6th and 7th grades. Had no instructions on how to work the pole – we figured it out PDQ.
Think_b4_speaking on April 10, 2008 at 12:13 PM
On the contrary, everything adds up quite neatly. I’ll add it to the list of things I try to not let bring me down.
samuelrylander on April 10, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Keep pokin’ at them. Sooner or later, Keith Ellison will have to make a public statement if he wants to retain support. Some of us remember how he took the oath of office.
Sunlight is good. Anyone know where Al Franken stands on the issue?
a capella on April 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Wow. What a moron.
StephC on April 10, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Let me help him out here:
Step 1: Pull rope.
that’s it.
Matticus Finch on April 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM
The smirk on the guy’s face is telling. I wonder what would happen if a child didn’t want to pray? Thanks for keeping the pressure up on this, Ed. Kersten deserves it for her efforts over the past couple of years.
It will also be interesting to see what the follow-up is on any investigation of Islamic Relief. That needs to be done.
No flag raised tells me one thing. They are only interested in furthuring Islamic culture, not American culture.
Connie on April 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I wonder how this guy gets his garage door open in the morning?
Or, for that matter, if he was looking for the remote to the flagpole.
JohnTant on April 10, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Honestly – I know we can see what is going on there – but what’s the excuse for everyone else?? Willful blindness? Frozen brains??? Rampant liberalism??
HawaiiLwyr on April 10, 2008 at 12:19 PM
I’m guessing you probably didn’t need the “no flag raising” thing to tell you that though, right?
samuelrylander on April 10, 2008 at 12:20 PM
My personal favorite.
awake on April 10, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Geez you guys, the Hamas and Saudi Arabian flags are on back order, we will get to it as soon as they come in.
deadbackpacker on April 10, 2008 at 12:28 PM
The technology is too complicated for his 7th century mind…
catmman on April 10, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Yeah, we are just too incompetent to know how to raise a flag on a flagpole, but hey, when it comes to pulling the pin and activating the detonator on a suicide vest, nobody does it better!
pilamaye on April 10, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Not to worry, in a few months Senator Al Franken will take care of the problem! What the hell is going on in Minnesota?
dmann on April 10, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Someone should teach him by running his pants up the flagpole.
With him in them.
CurtZHP on April 10, 2008 at 12:32 PM
First rule of ISLAM, lies and deceit are A-OK as long as you’re helping the pedophile conquer the world.
Hey Minnesota, you lie down with dogs….
..ya get the shaft! (operable or not)
shooter on April 10, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Are they required to Pledge Allegiance?
Side note, this is why ObamaX didn’t know to raise his hand during the Anthem. No US flags while he was growing up.
faraway on April 10, 2008 at 12:34 PM
shirt maybe?
shooter on April 10, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Don’t be so sure about that. Remember, the koran says you can lie to your enemies.
peacenprosperity on April 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM
I’m sure the solution to this will be to get rid of the law.
They can run the Saudi Flag up the pole. Who are we to judge?
NoDonkey on April 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Every clear-thinking Christian and Jew should sue the hell out of the leftos in the Minnesota who run that state. If you’re going to illegally have a state religion, how about one that preaches love and tolerance?
As far as the madrassa Imams, the little slimy bastards know that Minnesotans are nice friendly Scandinavian types and they’ll take advantage of their bighearted decency by spreading their poisonous crap and making Minnesotans pay for it.
TexasJew on April 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Some Muslims say they weren’t smart enough to pull off 9/11 either.
Heres a tip on lying in Islam…
If he knew how to and didn’t want to fly the flag of the great satan, he could lie outright, thats called Taqiyya.
If he didn’t know how to but he knew the vice principal did, he would make no mention of the vice principles ability and still declare the flag raising a mystery. That is lying by omission, that is called Kitman.
If enough fuss is made I’m sure they will raise a flag (subjected to many desecrations no doubt). In the end you will still have a cancerous Islamic tumor in your midst that raises a urine splashed flag to mollify the kaffirs temporarily.
BL@KBIRD on April 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM
You guessed right.
Connie on April 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM
What is minnesota’s explanation for having a religion based school in the school system?
peacenprosperity on April 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM
“It’s evil wizardry! When you pull down on one thing, things attached to it are supposed to go down, not up! Don’t try to tempt me into false beliefs with your socerer’s ways. Ulululululululu!”
James on April 10, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Ed, given the audience this website has, you and Hot Air have done this country a great service highlighting this story. Nothing sanitizes better than the light of day. Well done.
Zorro on April 10, 2008 at 12:40 PM
This is just wrong!
Why is a State funding a so-called private school? And a Islamic one at that?
Flag pole or not… it is still not the State’s responsibility to give money to a private school, which this is.
Does anyone else know if you can get your kid into this school, since it IS supposedly public? If it is a public school, I bet they would welcome you with open arms. If it is a religous one, they will turn you away. Problem solved, State revokes funds and they have to become a Private School…. welcoming the next Ubama.
upinak on April 10, 2008 at 12:42 PM
What is it with you and not allowing yourself to be distracted by side issues? Geeze.
samuelrylander on April 10, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Aren’t there any lawyers in Minnesota? Why isn’t somebody filing a lawsuit over this?
AZCoyote on April 10, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Supposedly ACLU is looking into it and the other thread Ed has about this has a PDF link in it. It was a interesting read.
upinak on April 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM
They’re multiplying.
But we don’t know how to raise a United States flag.
fanderbiles on April 10, 2008 at 12:47 PM
.
It certainly has worked in scandinavian countries, where the moslem minority is taking over, and making the streets unsafe for women.
Think_b4_speaking on April 10, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Reminds me of the taunt from my youth – “Put down that wheelbarrow! You don’t know nothin’ ’bout complicated machinery.”
eeyore on April 10, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Yea, so complicated even the Greeks couldn’t figure it out….
Tim Burton on April 10, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Would forcing them to learn how to use a flagpole be part of the worldwide assault on Islam?
eeyore on April 10, 2008 at 12:59 PM
He can’t work the flagpole? Booshiite. He’s just showing where their allegiance truly lies. As if we had to figure it out.
This better blow up so everyone knows what’s going on. I feel like waaay too many people are just ignorant of what’s going on around this country. My Grandfathers are spinning in their graves, much like John Wayne and other Patriots.
Geronimo on April 10, 2008 at 1:02 PM
We should run some of them UP the flagpole, I bet they’d figure it out then, eh?
Geronimo on April 10, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Why are we having this silly brick-by-brick, slowly-dawning-awareness conversation about this shithole? It’s an Islamic madrassa. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck? You know?
Spare me the faux surprise.
Jaibones on April 10, 2008 at 1:06 PM
samuelrylander.
There is only one important issue at the moment and it is being shielded, obscured and ignored.
I know a few things about Islam that all non Muslims should know. And most people know nothing, why should they?
I go out of my way to portray Islam as darkly as it deserves. I never knowingly lie about Islam, it’s horrific and ridiculous truth is enough to turn any sane mind against it.
I am interested in many things, but here at Hotair my focus is to “poison” minds against Islam with the truth of Islam. And may I add that I believe the Muslims are the main victims of Islam, they have to live it. The ideology is what I disdain and desire destroyed, not the people. Although I would not hesitate to eradicate any adherent who defends or advances Islam.
I’m not American, so I am not voting and I limit my comments on American politics to the odd observation. I know I must come off as cynical about Iraq and Afghanistan but there are deep reasons to be.
BL@KBIRD on April 10, 2008 at 1:07 PM
GARRRRRRRRRRR. As soon as you put “Islamic” in front of “Relief Society”, it becomes a RELIGIOUS entity. That would be like “CATHOLIC” Charities saying “But we’re from OHIO!”
tree hugging sister on April 10, 2008 at 1:07 PM
I was thinking today on the way to work, when are the muzzies going to want their own highway?
Geronimo on April 10, 2008 at 1:08 PM
That’s all wonderful. I agree with you and was with great sarcasm criticizing you. Keep up the good work of poisoning our minds. :)
samuelrylander on April 10, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Instead of suing Minn, how about creating a Christian or Jewish “relief” charity and see if the liberal nutjobs would allow that charity to open a charter school as well.
highhopes on April 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Flagpoles ain’t in the Koran. They aren’t in the Hadith, either.
I guess that school saves a lot of money for the school system, only teaching from one book…
piraticalbob on April 10, 2008 at 1:20 PM
Ditto and exactly!
ej_pez on April 10, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Islam is the only religion(that I know of) that implies in its scriptures that it is ever permissable to lie. This concept is called Taqiyya .
Examples:1) I do not know how to operate a flagpole.
2) We want to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Lunkinator on April 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Instead of suing Minn, how about creating a Christian or Jewish “relief” charity and see if the liberal nutjobs would allow that charity to open a charter school as well.
highhopes on April 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Great idea!
dms on April 10, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I got a brand new sawbuck that says Barack will hold a fundraiser here talking about how he wants to “change” education. Easy money?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM
The savages can’t operate a flagpole, but they can strap homemade bombs onto their children. I guess that it’s just a matter of where you choose to apply your abilities.
OhEssYouCowboys on April 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Wait a minute. The savages, apparently, don’t know how to shave or bathe, or get out of the 6th century. Maybe he really doesn’t know how to work a flagpole?
I have things to think about.
OhEssYouCowboys on April 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM
If it doesn’t involve rocks, dung, or shattered bodies, he’s out of his depth.
LimeyGeek on April 10, 2008 at 2:08 PM
I live just a couple of miles from that mosque, er I mean school. I’ll raise it and give them a class on flag etiquette to boot.
MNDavenotPC on April 10, 2008 at 2:18 PM
I’m guessing they are getting all sorts of offers of assistance this afternoon! It’s never a good thing when your school is “featured” on the Drudge Report.
highhopes on April 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM
highhopes on April 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Oh I’m sure, but I’d just LOVE to be able to explain the parts of the Code that would drive them nuts! For example, no flag or banner higher, no dragging on the ground……nd I’d wear my VFW jacket with a big honkin’ eagle, Globe and Anchor on the back.
MNDavenotPC on April 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM
I’m sure the guys from the local VFW would be happy to help them out.
reaganaut on April 10, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Watching the video at the “KSTP” link, you don’t need no d**n O’Reilly Body-Language Expert to see that the headmaster is dissembling.
eeyore on April 10, 2008 at 2:47 PM
The ironic thing about lying is that the attempt to fool your listener often backfires.
shick on April 10, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Maybe they can ask the ex Governor of Minnesota and (Dusty) Rhodes scholar, Jesse Ventura for help…nope, he’s too busy with the truther’s…sorry
PatriotPete on April 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM
How bout we have a few Marines give em a crash course on flag raising? That’s probably something the students could benefit from as I’m sure they haven’t been taught what the flag is about.
There was also a woman killed in Murderapolis last Sunday taking two children to a Muslim Sunday school. She was hit in her car by a kid running from police. The police chase lasted about half a block. Who do you suppose the Somali ‘community’ is blaming for her death? (hint…it’s not the criminal driving the stolen car)
oakpack on April 10, 2008 at 3:36 PM
As a counterpoint, Christianity and Judaism both indirectly endorse deceiving the enemy. There are numeruous accounts of people who are spoken of highly in scripture who deceived the enemies of the Jews, and of God. A couple of those examples: Ehud, from the book of Judges, and Rahab, from the book of Joshua
Back in Nazi Germany, if you had hidden the Jews in your home, would it be ok to lie to the Nazis when they came looking for them?
I agree with you in believing this madrassa should be taken off public funding, but I have no problem with lying to evil doers (the enemy) to protect those who need protection.
samuelrylander on April 10, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Ed, I want to have Real School Choice, where parents can move public monies from failing public schools to private schools, or from any public school to any school of their choice on a per student basis..
Maybe we should not over react in this situation, and set a precedent.
(The school board should look into these school and make sure that they are meeting the requirements yes… they should be putting up the flag yes.. however the religious component is where we may see a negative implications for School Choice in the future)
What i’m trying to say is for every muslim school 5000 Christian schools… it’s just the market.. >:}
Chakra Hammer on April 10, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Countdown to the next “Great American Armed Stand-off!”
Or maybe they are really that stupid, in which case, let `em be a madrassa. I think we`ll be able to take down anyone who comes out of there as a radical.
ThePrez on April 10, 2008 at 4:40 PM
And they are teachers?
Johan Klaus on April 10, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Islam is either a religion or it is not, they can’t have it both ways.
Johan Klaus on April 10, 2008 at 5:34 PM
I think this one is obvious: Flying a flag that does not glorify Allah is blasphemous to Muslims. So is saluting one.
Hmmm, I wonder whether this applies to a certain candidate’s refusal to place his hand over his heart.
I think you forgot: 3) “Not wearing a lapel flag is even more patriotic than wearing one.”
Al in St. Lou on April 10, 2008 at 5:53 PM
As much as Muslims lie, you think they would get better at it.
Tantor on April 10, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Has anyone considered that they may not have a flag?
I mean, maybe it got burned or something.
29Victor on April 10, 2008 at 6:43 PM
29Victor on April 10, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Ha, ha, ha.
Johan Klaus on April 11, 2008 at 12:07 AM
If he keeps up with that crap he’s going to learn how to extract poles from where he don’t want them.
wepeople on April 11, 2008 at 12:43 AM
By the way, for those of you who think this is only happening in Minnesota, I suggest you start checking out similar activity in your own states.
Connie on April 11, 2008 at 1:09 AM
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