But how many dollars exactly? Frederick Kagan takes on that answer with an article entitled “Why Iraq Matters – Talking back to antiwar-party talking points.” We will consider below just how much of a diversion of resources away from more desirable d…

God help the other Vets.

…Don’t you have some ‘beardo the weirdo’ to go instant message to reinforce your deluded and unrealistic view of the world, IMAO?
Branch Rickey on April 9, 2008 at 7:40 PM

In their defense, I think a lot of these guys genuinely believe that they were in Vietnam. They see all the liberal media portrayals of vets as flea-bitten wild-eyed drug addicts, get confused, and think “Hey, that’s me up there! Man, I must’a saw some ba-a-a-ad shit go down, man.”

Branch Rickey on April 9, 2008 at 9:11 PM

Yes and no. One mentions Germans and Japanese and the other spouts off and uses your words against you, which MB does … maybe they are related?

upinak on April 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Or, they are manning both the “rescue rangers” log and the hotair trolling duty from their off-campus pad….

Yes and no. One mentions Germans and Japanese and the other spouts off and uses your words against you, which MB does … maybe they are related?

Fatal on April 9, 2008 at 2:32 PM

My response would have been more terse. Combat operations change over the course of a year. What was true in April ’07 isn’t true in April ’08. If Congress wants to play armchair general, they had better understand that the real world doesn’t follow the Congressional schedule full of breaks where nothing occurs.

In other words, our troops were still serving and stuff was still going on when our idiot Senators went home for Spring Break.

That scenario was not however; my good fortune. The gods’ of war saw fit to visit different violent and disturbing circumstances on my sorry boney arse.

J_Gocht on April 9, 2008 at 8:21 PM

Just me, or does J_Gocht resemble MB4 in some above mentioned ways?

“I asked if YOU served. So answer it or I will just assume you are just another backackwards individual who runs with the Berkely/Code Puke in a pink tutu type. upinak on April 9, 2008 at 8:00 PM”

I’ve haven’t been… “another bassackwards individual who runs with the Berkeley/Code Puke in a pink tutu type.”

Since 1960, I’ve been, well… I actually might have enjoyed running with…

“the Berkeley/Code Puke in a pink tutu type[s].”

That scenario was not however; my good fortune. The gods’ of war saw fit to visit different violent and disturbing circumstances on my sorry boney arse.

Branch Rickey on April 9, 2008 at 7:47 PM

LMFAO you could say that. I am not sure the style… but makes ya wonder.

J_Gocht on April 9, 2008 at 7:53 PM

I asked if YOU served. So answer it or I will just assume you are just another backackwards individual who runs with the Berkely/Code Puke in a pink tutu type.

“…Because I sure don’t remember any “apathy” while serving and waiting for parts… and waiting.. and waiting.
upinak on April 9, 2008 at 7:12 PM”

Check this…

“…Clinton’s only saving grace was that he was more apathetic toward the military than he was openly hostile to it.
logis on April 9, 2008 at 12:19 PM”

Not entirely my thought…!

Just another fine Trooper…!

He was doing this in another post last night. Not sure what his deal is.

upinak on April 9, 2008 at 7:43 PM

Trolling in an “Eliot Spitzer-liberalesqe” style, no?

He was doing this in another post last night. Not sure what his deal is.

e germans and japanese were living in the same neighborhoods as the soldier’s families, may have actually lived in those neighborhoods their whole lives and were not only threateninng those same families if the soliders fought, but were actually killing/beheading family members or soldiers themselves.Fatal on April 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM

For goodness sake MB4 this is not a garden club dispute (which I have to tell you can resemble Fatal’s description at my cousin’s wife’s g.c. in Hoboken). The republicans in the senate can’t get Chuck Hagel to not bash them constantly but you want a full functioning republic built, defended and look clean {and dare I say all the Iraqi children articulate} in 90 days or else? Don’t you have some ‘beardo the weirdo’ to go instant message to reinforce your deluded and unrealistic view of the world, IMAO?

We go live to an emergency address|by Earth President McNeal:

McNeal: “Ladies and gentlemen, our course is clear. It’s time to knuckle under. Get down on all fours and lick boot…”

Lure: “People of Earth. I am Lure of the planet Omicron Persei Eight. Is this thing on? Now then, we want the one you call McNeal. Give us McNeal or we’ll waste your cities with our anti-monument laser. We demand McNeal!”

McNeal: As I was saying, mankind would sooner perish…than kowtow to outrageous alien demands for this McNeal…whoever he is… Am I right?

How about answer my question.

“Are they bitchin’? Let me know when they stop! Then we’ll have a problem1”
General G.S. Patton

Olde soldier sends…

hat did Bruce Willis do to the terrorist at the end of Die Hard?

Would be terrible if Ted Kennedy were to be dropped off of a skyscraper like that. His body hitting the concrete below could injure or kill feed hundreds of pigeons and ants for years.

NoDonkey on April 9, 2008 at 11:14 AM
fixed

BohicaTwentyTwo on April 9, 2008 at 11:27 AM

I wouldn’t say that about a sitting Senator, regardless of who, on a blog.

It makes HotAir look like Huff Po.

“Are they bitchin’? Let me know when they stop! Then we’ll have a problem1”
General G.S. Patton

“Are they bitchin’? Let me know when they stop! Then we’ll have a problem!”
General G.S. Patton

All our initial spec ops success’s in Afghanistan were fought by men and women who somehow managed to “tough it out” under President Clintons so called “apathy” toward the military.
J_Gocht on April 9, 2008 at 7:03 PM

Will you PLEASE stop, and get your lips off Clinton back end! Did you serve under Clinton? Because I sure don’t remember any “apathy” while serving and waiting for parts… and waiting.. and waiting.

If Obama wins, watch military retention rates drop through the floor.
funky chicken on April 9, 2008 at 11:56 AM
If Obama wins, watch those who are in do everything and anything to get out.
upinak on April 9, 2008 at 12:01 PM
“…Clinton’s only saving grace was that he was more apathetic toward the military than he was openly hostile to it.
But with BarackObama, there is no room for optimism. The man is either intentionally opposed to the interests of the United States of America or he is congenitally retarded – or both.
logis on April 9, 2008 at 12:19 PM”

Might I remind all you fine Troopers…?

All our initial spec ops success’s in Afghanistan were fought by men and women who somehow managed to “tough it out” under President Clintons so called “apathy” toward the military.

Probably at least 99 percent of the senior Officers and NCO’s that made General Frank’s “blitzkrieg to Baghdad” successful had to tough it out during the “eight hellish years” of President Clinton’s Administration.

Well hell, after reading your posts; perhaps they should have minted a special medal “Clinton’s-Service in Hell-Medal”. It could have been 8 pink bars on a yellow background.

The “rotund one from West Palm Beach” used to berate President Clinton on an almost daily basis for “bombing from 15 thousand feet”. So he, President Clinton wouldn’t be criticized for losing personal or aircraft to Serbian ground-to-air missiles.

General Wesley Clark was obviously aware of the Serb’s max accurate missile range and would have made that “bombing altitude” recommendation to President Clinton?

I don’t know…but I’d be willing to bet a case of “Sam Adams”… those B-17 pilots luv’ed, that “Command Decision”… and let that “fat-boy”, stay the “chicken hawk” he was and is…!

MB4 on April 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM

You don’t like war, you don’t care for anything concerning it. What about the Soldiers MB? We know you don’t like Petraeus… but what about the little guys?

Because no matter what, tabassco sauce isn’t going to work with the sour taste you left in my mouth. So I am going to say this. I am sorry the Untied States let you down during Vietnam. Possibly spitting, yelling, beating you up. But don’t take it on the people (i.e. younger then you and not fighting YOUR GENERATIONAL WAR) who have had nothing to do with it. Thank you for your service, now can you calm down, please?

MB4 on April 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Ok, we get you don’t like the war…

So, just what is your solution?

I’m sure you can find a quote somewhere.