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Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do. –Benjamin Franklin Jimmy Carter to meet Hamas leader The former U.S. president who justifies Palestinian violence as a reaction……

I have never understood the reluctance to call Islam out when they’re wrong.

TooTall on April 9, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Talk to Robert Spencer, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Geert Wilders, Wafa Sultan,…oh and Theo Van Gogh could probably have shed some light on the subject.

Who was responsible for the 9-11?

jmarcure on April 9, 2008 at 4:22 PM

No problem, dude.

The ACLU says they are actually looking into this I’m absolutely shocked they would even make a statement like this. I’ll be even more shocked if they actually file suit on this. They usually only apply seperation of church and state issu…

If so, perhaps the ASPCA should be informed when the little hellions decide to act on their religious beliefs.

That’s not what I meant at all.

You started off by presenting this viewpoint on Islam without commentary as if it were your own. People were confused and wanted to know if you, jmarcure, held these liberal beliefs. Clearly you did not and I wanted to point this to awake. I wasn’t trying to trivialise your point.

aengus on April 9, 2008 at 4:13 PM

I have reread what I wrote and you are correct. It was stated in such a way that it looked like a statement of my beliefs. My most humble apologies for the confusion.

I would think Michigan shouldn’t be far behind. Aren’t there loads of Muslims there too?
The double standard is disturbing.

Geronimo on April 9, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Michigan already has one. It’s called “Central Academy.” It’s a Muslim charter school (i.e., a madrassa). And it’s in…Ann Arbor, of course, where there is absolutely no objection to it whatsoever. But when an Ann Arbor high school student tried to read Bible verses a few years ago at lunch during an “open mic” event for “Diversity Week,” well the ACLU was all over that one trying to shut it down. Yup, there’s a double standard, and it’s sickening.

jmarcure on April 9, 2008 at 4:01 PM

That’s not what I meant at all.

You started off by presenting this viewpoint on Islam without commentary as if it were your own. People were confused and wanted to know if you, jmarcure, held these liberal beliefs. Clearly you did not and I wanted to point this to awake. I wasn’t trying to trivialise your point.

Sarcastic? Hardly. I was only expressing what I have been told by a number of liberals, Muslims and my daughter’s history teacher.

jmarcure on April 9, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Umm, it’s not sarcastic only if you believe and buy into what you are being told.

The sentiments you speak of obviously exist and are more prevalent than is given attention to, but your lack of clarification drew you unneccesary attention here.

Get used to it.

So you were being sarcastic, right?

awake on April 9, 2008 at 3:30 PM

Yes

aengus on April 9, 2008 at 3:35 PM

Sarcastic? Hardly. I was only expressing what I have been told by a number of liberals, Muslims and my daughter’s history teacher. I am only trying to point out a very large problem in perception of Islam by liberals. The other problem may be that when I relate what I have been told I am asked if I’m being serious or sarcastic. The mere thought that people could be that ignorant just isn’t taken seriously but the sad truth is that there are far too many who think that way and that is why we get foot baths, approved religious foods and Muslim week in the schools. As long as Islam is not thought of as a religion we will continue to get laws that allow cabbies to turn away customers and people arrested for koran desecration.

Instead of reverting to fins, you should think of expanding your lobes. You look a fool pontificating from a position of ignorance. Learn the basics of the ideology of Islam.

So you were being sarcastic, right?

Yes

jmarcure on April 9, 2008 at 3:22 PM

So you were being sarcastic, right?

Are you serious, you must be joking, right?
Liberty or Death on April 9, 2008 at 2:26 PM

Dead serious.
That is how a couple of co-workers explained Islam to me and how it was explained to my daughter in high school last year.

The way I see it is that stuff like this and what is going on in Europe will continue until we reach a critical mass of liberals that realize that Islam is a religion. My hope is that it will be realized well before serious damage to western society takes place. I would be willing to bet money that Osama didn’t have any idea that he would be so successful with his attack. All he needed to start the fall of western society was a handful of dedicated holy warriors and an abundance of guilt ridden first world liberals willing to embrace anything to ease the pain of living well. 10 years ago only a handful of people knew Islam even existed and now a few years after 9/11 we have liberals falling all over each other to be the first to embrace the quaint culture of Islam least they be labeled racist. Heck, we even have fashion designers creating burkinis and Islamic evening ware. As a co-worker but it, Muslims are a race of people that come from the nation of Islam and we should not deign them their culture. When I told her that Islam was a religion I was accused of being a bigot and nothing more than Bush lackey. To make matters worst there was a Muslim as part of the conversation who pointed out to her that it was bigots like me that he had to face every day. She apologized to him and said that I didn’t represent all Americans, only the close minded conservative ones.

lexhamfox on April 9, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Also, learn to recognize CAIR propaganda when you see it.

lexhamfox on April 9, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Muslims view Jesus differently than Christians. Muhammad had no choice but to include him in his little stories, but he stripped him of his divinity so he wouldn’t be more revered than himself. Christians are not grateful.

http://www.nisnews.nl/public/090408_2.htm

Were you being sarcastic with your first comment here on this thread at 1:14 PM?