Hamas in Iraq: Iran funds al-Qaeda
posted at 8:45 am on April 9, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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MEMRI translates a rather jolting interview conducted on March 26th with the leader of the Iraq chapter of Hamas, which has tried to reach out to their potential Sunni insurgent allies in the western provinces. Ahmad Salah al-Din told a Qatari newspaper that al-Qaeda in Iraq has received most of its funding, weapons, and training not from fellow Sunnis but from the Shi’ites of Iran. They have fought AQI and discovered the evidence themselves:
Salah Al-Din accused Al-Qaeda of being subservient to Iran, [claiming] that they had [extensive] evidence to that effect. He said: ‘We found Iranian [currency], toman, at an Al-Qaeda headquarters that we uncovered. We have also captured Iranian weapons, not to mention audio and video recordings containing announcements by Al-Qaeda fighters that they had received training in Iranian military camps and that Al-Qaeda wounded were being transported to Iran for medical treatment.’
This will come as a shock to those who keep believing that Shi’ites and Sunnis cannot cooperate in terrorist activities. Of course, the intelligence and military communities already know that Iran funds AQI as well as the Mahdi Army, mostly to destabilize the elected government of Iraq. They want a theocracy headed by their puppet Moqtada al-Sadr, but they’ll settle for a failed state they can control through violence and collapse.
Tehran, however, has found itself disappointed in its investment, especially since they had to rescue AQI’s leader:
Salah Al-Din claimed that Al-Qaeda’s real commander [in Iraq] was Abu Ayub Al-Masri, and that [Abu 'Omar] Al-Baghdadi [2] was an Iraqi figure to whom many [words and deeds] are attributed solely to create the impression that [Al-Qaeda is a genuinely] Iraqi organization. He said that [Abu Ayub] Al-Masri had been rescued from arrest by an Arab intelligence apparatus using a diplomatic vehicle belonging to the Iranian Embassy… Salah Al-Din explained that as of late, Al-Qaeda in Iraq had considerably diminished in size – so much so that today it can be said to constitute 15 percent of what it was a year ago, [and that therefore, even] if Al-Qaeda has begun launching suicide operations, these [operations] are not proof of its strength…’
Hamas therefore corroborated what the American military has said ever since the beginning of the surge — that the new strategy and tactics has all but defeated AQI. They remain in Iraq, mostly north of Baghdad in Mosul, but their strength is gone. Even suicide operations won’t restore their confidence, and even if it did, they can’t afford to lose more of their personnel. Recruitment has fallen off so badly that suicide operations get left to hostages and women.
And Hamas speaks for many Arabs in the region when Din points out the real long-term threat in the region:
Salah Al-Din stated, in the name of Hamas-Iraq: ‘The U.S. is our main enemy, but a more dangerous enemy is Iran. The U.S. wants [our] oil, and possibly it wants to establish military bases [on our soil], or to remain [in Iraq] for many years to come – while Iran wants to rule, [and] to eradicate and change [our] beliefs and ideas, [and] aspires to alter the demography of the Sunni regions, particularly Baghdad.’
Not even the radicals think we want to colonize Iraq. In fact, Din manages to escape the normal conspiracy-theory thinking of Arab radicals in this analysis. Americans want oil and stability and a governing process that disarms radicalism. The Iranians want to put Sunnis under their thumb and eventually rule the entire region as a new, Persian Shi’ite caliphate. The real danger comes from Tehran and not from Washington, especially for radical Sunnis.
That’s why Din opposes AQ as well. Before Abu Musab al-Zarqawi aligned himself with Osama bin Laden, his goals mirrored those of Hamas: Sunni independence in Iraq and the ejection of the Americans. Afterwards, AQI adopted AQ’s deeply radical Islamist bent and started declaring Iraqis heretics, including most of its Sunnis. When Zarqawi reached room temperature, it only got worse, and Din said that Iraqi Sunnis and not Americans became their primary targets. An alliance with Iran under those conditions not only doesn’t sound impossible, it became completely sensible.
The next time someone suggests a connection between Iran and AQI, perhaps people will take better care not to roll their eyes. Jules Crittenden has more.
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Well now. Comments from the Obama campaign? I’d better not hold my breath.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 9, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Don’t we have some, like, y’know, spy satellites and stuff to like, check this out?
Akzed on April 9, 2008 at 9:00 AM
The traditional Arab-Persian antipathy is an important part of this, aside from the sectarian differences. One of the things we in the West don’t grasp well is that the constantly shifting allegiances among terror groups is the natural way of doing business over there.
a capella on April 9, 2008 at 9:01 AM
While I think there is some uneasy workings between AQI and Iran, the crux is Iran despises and hates Al Qaeda much, much more than they dislike us.
I’m sure there are some elements within Iran that have some contacts, but overall due to the Persian/Arab rift as well as the Sunni -> Shi’ite hardline ones, I’d take the Hamas information with a grain of salt.
Iran and AQI might cross paths occasionally, but have no doubt Iran would obliterate AQI quicker than they would any entity on the planet, including the Israelis.
crscott on April 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM
Can’t be. I read right here on HA just yesterday that any claim Iran supports AQI is a gaff.
TheBigOldDog on April 9, 2008 at 9:05 AM
Does this mean McCain works for Hamas?
I kid, I kid.
I love how whoever they interviewed passed off the US as just this sort of default enemy. Like they’re just fighting us simply so they have someone to fight.
jimmy the notable on April 9, 2008 at 9:10 AM
That’s very sweet. Too bad it’s not true. I can guarantee that if the Iranians had a choice between massacring the Great Satan (USA), the Little Satan (Israel), or AQI, they’d pick one of the Satans.
Sunni and Shi’ite terrorist organizations work together on a pretty regular basis, no matter what the New York Times tells you. I’m always amused by the fact that people are shocked by the alliances between these organizations. It demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding/misconception about the inner workings of the Muslim terrorist mind.
Case in point: In 1948, five nations declared war against the Infant state of Israel (Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan). They were all an array of Muslim belief systems and they all absolutely depised each other. But they all banned together to drive the Jews into the sea. By the logic of “Sunni and Shi’ite never work together”, how did that happen?
P.S. They lost.
mjk on April 9, 2008 at 9:13 AM
I don’t think there will be much shock. There will continue to be a bunch of lefties living in a parallel universe.
snaggletoothie on April 9, 2008 at 9:15 AM
What I’m going to tell you right now, you probably never heard it before:
Iran is holding Ossama Bin Laden’s son and other close relatives and many of Al-Qaeda operatives hostages, not in the litteral sense of the word, but under surveillance.
That’s why Al-Qaeda will never attack Iran.
In fact, Iran is afraid of Al-Qaeda, that’s why it will never let these people go and would help Al-Qaeda in Gaza and elsewhere, to show good will.
On the other hand, Iran has interest in stirring things in the region. The messier, the better for the stability of the Iranian Regime.
Indy Conservative on April 9, 2008 at 9:22 AM
heh
funky chicken on April 9, 2008 at 9:41 AM
“… they had received training in Iranian military camps and that Al-Qaeda wounded were being transported to Iran for medical treatment.”
What? Iran, helping terrorists? Can’t be! They’re such peace-loving people, those mullahs. It must be something WE did to make them angry, quick, somebody call The Obamatron 2008 and send him over there to talk to them about this!
Tony737 on April 9, 2008 at 9:47 AM
“… Al-Qaeda in Iraq had considerably diminished in size – so much so that today it can be said to constitute 15 percent of what it was a year ago …”
15%? It sounds like they’re ’stuck in a quaaaaqmire!’ I wonder what ‘grim milestone’ they’ve reached? I bet they have Senators who say ‘we can’t win’.
Tony737 on April 9, 2008 at 9:53 AM
Hey, didn’t McCain say this same thing a couple of weeks ago–you know, about AQI getting training inside Iran, and a whole lot of people here at hotair wet themselves?
Just like the WMD thing. We’ve flown planeloads upon planeloads of stuff out of Iraq that would make you wet your pants…but Bush keeps it classified.
The military has known for a long time that AQI is getting training and help from Iran.
Before you wet yourself again, or call people with military knowledge “right wing troofers” or senile or whatever, you might want to educate yourself a bit. Otherwise you just look really stupid in addition to way overanxious to play gotcha on the GOP nominee.
I thought McCain was supposed to be the one who got a stiffie from abusing fellow republicans? Isn’t that something you say you dislike about him?
funky chicken on April 9, 2008 at 9:55 AM
With any factions of Islam, “the enemy of my enemy is my enemy”. That ’s in SPADES if the enemy is the “evil SATAN”.
pueblo1032 on April 9, 2008 at 9:56 AM
I agree with your general rant but if it is classified, why is it on HA?
a capella on April 9, 2008 at 10:00 AM
The Left has been spouting this “Persian/Arab rift” and “Sunni/Shi’ite rift” canard ever since their 1960s leftovers college professors indoctrinated them with it.
It’s this type of “thinking” that has screwed us. No matter what part of the world you’re in, or what Middle Eastern religion you believe in, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.
What was it the 9/11 Commission said? That in fighting terrorism we had a “lack of imagination”. That’s what’s being perpetuated by the Left and their refusal to consider the possibility that groups that have hated each other in the past can possibly work together now. By clinging to this fallacy, they doom us all.
Del Dolemonte on April 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Michael Ledeen has been drawing this connection (and between Iran and AQ in general) for several years now.
irishspy on April 9, 2008 at 11:05 AM
So, McCain did NOT misspeak?
Problem is that WE missed a big opportunity when the Media and left got all over McCain. We spun it as a slip of the tongue, and did NOT use it as an opportunity to set the record straight.
Romeo13 on April 9, 2008 at 11:21 AM
” The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
Johan Klaus on April 9, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Are we waiting for a major consensus before we bomb these turds into outer space? It will not happen. Leadership needs to take to reigns and get this done. All terror roads lead to Iran. We keep running the same program and getting the same results.
Bomb, bomb, bomb…bomb, bomb Iran.
Sunni…Shiite terrorists…..let Mohamed sort them out in paradise.
Hening on April 9, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Hey crscott I have found it much better if you do not wake n’ bake first thing every morning. Iran hates AQ more than the US, and Israel? I am not sure you can say that with a staight face. I would think that in Iran, much like other Countries, the US, and Israel are running a close race to see who is the most hated. Hell, most liberals in our own Country feel this way.
chief on April 9, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Awesome post Ed. Time to keep our eyes on the objective and off domestic politics. Even Hamas-Iraq recognizes, The U.S. is NOT seeking to rule Iraq, but Iran does!!!
‘The U.S. is our main enemy, but a more dangerous enemy is Iran. The U.S. wants [our] oil, and possibly it wants to establish military bases [on our soil], or to remain [in Iraq] for many years to come – while Iran wants to rule, [and] to eradicate and change [our] beliefs and ideas, [and] aspires to alter the demography of the Sunni regions, particularly Baghdad.’
That these pronouncements from a Hamas spokesperson in Iraq doesn’t get more play is exhibit 1A as to why our mainstream media is bias, pathetic and rightfully dying.
Angry Dumbo on April 9, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Why the heck won’t the Admin come out and simply set the record straight on all this???
That Iran is training alQaeda, that we did find WMD in Iraq?
What are those idiots in the Admin trying to prove?
That the leftists and surrender monkeys are correct?
This is the most ’shoot your foot off’ bunch of braindead ppl I’ve ever seen run a country.
auzerais on April 9, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Crossposting from Jules Crittenden’s site:
While the idea that Sunni & Shiite won’t cooperate on terrorism is an intellectual bubble that should have burst long ago, I wouldn’t necessarily take Hamas Iraq’s accusations at face value either. Every militant group needs a Great Satan; what’s really interesting here is that Iraqi eyes are apparently turning toward Iran in that regard.
Unfortunately, the idea that the Shia in Iraq are all Persian proxies is another remarkably resilient bubble — the fact that Iraq could become a pivotal ally with a long reach inside Iran has apparently never occurred to the Dems on the Hill. Indeed, I can’t think of anything that could more effectively alter the current international stalemate on Iran than reversing that particular flow, can you?
JM Hanes on April 9, 2008 at 1:16 PM
The time to strike the Iranian menace has passed; we have already lost this round of the “new crusade”. Iran has positioned itself as the leader of the Islamic awakening and skillfully used Muslim supremacist teachings to manipulate and control most anti-western aggression and propaganda throughout the world. Their continued calls for a new caliphate appeals to a majority of Muslims regardless of sect, they alone have stood up to the Great and Little Satan’s and have re-established Islam as a world power. Liberal Western democracies have slit their own throats with the sword of secular humanism. Lets add the Iranian – Chicoms. (asymmetric warfare) cooperation to the brief and a true Clear and Present Danger looms in the not to distant future.
dmann on April 9, 2008 at 1:49 PM
***U.S.: Saudis Still Filling Al Qaeda’s Coffers:
Despite six years of promises, U.S. officials say Saudi Arabia continues to look the other way at wealthy individuals identified as sending millions of dollars to al Qaeda.
“If I could somehow snap my fingers and cut off the funding from one country, it would be Saudi Arabia,” Stuart Levey, the under secretary of the Treasury in charge of tracking terror financing, told ABC News.
- Brian Ross (September 11, 2007)***
MB4 on April 9, 2008 at 1:55 PM
I guess those 1960s leftovers college professors must have indoctrinated Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald at JihadWatch too as they also seem to be into that rift canard.
MB4 on April 9, 2008 at 2:10 PM
You may be right but you have your work cut out for you if you want to convince the Bush administration as they seem to have other ideas.
***April 8, 2008 -
In an exclusive interview with “Nightline’s” Terry Moran, the American Ambassador to Iraq said he was concerned about Iranian influence in Iraq.
When asked if Americans were in a “proxy war” with Iran, Ryan Crocker said, “It may be that the Iranians see it in that light, we certainly do not.”
But he also added that “we don’t want to have just what you describe as a proxy war with Iran inside Iraq, and that is why we are willing to sit down with Iran face to face for talks on Iraqi security at the invitation of the Iraqi government. We’ve had three rounds of those talks and we’ve told them we are ready to again.”
MB4 on April 9, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Absolutely. Make the sectarianism/tribalism work to the West’s benefit for a change.
a capella on April 9, 2008 at 2:21 PM
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