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Minneapolis might leave sidewalks unrolled for GOP Convention

posted at 7:11 am on April 5, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Ever since the Republicans decided to hold their national convention in St. Paul, readers have asked me about the night life in the Twin Cities.  If New York City never sleeps, I say, then Minneapolis-St. Paul never goes to bed past 10 pm on a school night.  Liquor can’t be sold on Sundays — and for that matter, neither can cars.  Bars close at 2 AM.  Farmers get up at 4 AM.

It’s a quiet place.  Minnesota, recognizing that dry Sundays and fixed closing time for bars might cut into the revenue the state hopes to generate from wild Republicans roaming its streets, offered a bill that would allow Minneapolis and St. Paul to waive the liquor rules and extend bar closing times for 11 days surrounding the convention.  Minneapolis appears ready to take the offer, but St. Paul likes its sidewalks rolled:

Minneapolis now officially supports legislation that allows later drinking hours during the Republican National Convention — but only if the City Council decides where and when.

The City Council’s stance, adopted Friday on a 9-3 vote, rejects its own committee’s advice to take no position and puts the city at odds with St. Paul, whose council rejected later hours on Wednesday.

If the state bill passes, either city can change its mind, since the 4 a.m. closing bill by DFL Rep. Phyllis Kahn requires local approval to implement.

“We can be a cold Omaha or we can stand up and be a 24-hour city,” said downtown DFL Council Member Lisa Goodman.

The debate got somewhat partisan in the Twin Cities.  St. Paul City Council member Dave Thune, a rather notorious DFL crank — that’s Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, the Minnesota version of the Democratic Party — complained about the possibility of “puking Republicans” in the street.  Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak, also DFL, scolded Thune, saying he wanted to roll out the red carpet for GOP convention-goers.

There are some practical considerations, too.  The police forces in both cities will get stretched to the limit by the convention, and expanded drinking hours will mean more enforcement issues.  New York City had an army of police on the streets, but they’re used to dealing with 24/7 revelry.  Minnesota is bringing law-enforcement personnel from around the state to assist during the convention, but they will focus on security for the actual convention.  They may be less worried about Republicans than the thousands of college students who will certainly take advantage of the loosened regulations.

The Twin Cities wanted this convention to show that we are a world-class metropolitan area, and not a secondary market with delusions of grandeur.  If Minneapolis and St. Paul want to play in that league, then allowing the liquor stores to remain open two Sundays in 2008 and allowing a couple extra hours of revelry a night seems like a fairly mild adjustment.


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morning ed
seems like a reasonable request to me…..

tottoritodd on April 5, 2008 at 7:20 AM

Ed gets up early even on Saturdays.

p40tiger on April 5, 2008 at 7:33 AM

“[P]uking Republicans???” LOL!!!

Aunt B on April 5, 2008 at 7:38 AM

The GOP Convention will be one of the most boring one, except for the booze.

The Twin Cities wanted this convention to show that we are a world-class metropolitan area

Does it mean one can get a hooker before 10 P.M.?

I like to sleep early, you know.

Indy Conservative on April 5, 2008 at 7:39 AM

Geeze, it’s not like the Dems are coming to town.

Except maybe to riot protest.

amkun on April 5, 2008 at 7:41 AM

“[P]uking Republicans???” LOL!!!

If the AoSHQ gang shows up, there may be rivers of regurgitated Valu-Rite vodka flowing. Plus, er, nevermind – we shan’t mention the plight of the hobos.

Just sayin’ ;)

jrl on April 5, 2008 at 7:57 AM

…complained about the possibility of “puking Republicans” in the street…

Gotta love it! Reminds me of the West Village at 4am.

I dunno…the way I see it, the GOP knew what the deal was as to late-night partying when they chose Minneapolis. And I suppose it just doesn’t look good to want extended boozing hours for our delegates.

JetBoy on April 5, 2008 at 7:59 AM

Besides, booze isn’t the drug of choice for the little twits who will be there, er, protesting.

bikermailman on April 5, 2008 at 8:06 AM

I have no use/respect for MN since they put a Muslim in CONgress. They now realize what a stupid/foolish mistake they made…

PoliticallyIncorrectSandy on April 5, 2008 at 8:09 AM

Lets get this straight,Dave Thune is concerned
that “Puking Republican’s” just might be puking
up all over his city in a uncontrolable deluge of
puke!

But if Dave is a farmer,I bet he’s a milk farmer,
so whats the difference between cow paddies Dave
might walk in,compared to Daves nightmare of
Republican puke!(Snark!).

canopfor on April 5, 2008 at 8:12 AM

These Minnesotans sure have an identity problem. Think about it, the first muslim lawmaker, no booze on Sunday. I wonder how allah,( not ours ), would FEEL about this? Lol!!

jerrytbg on April 5, 2008 at 8:29 AM

Well, the speeches will be dry…

OldEnglish on April 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM

Yup, Allah forbid (either one) politicians and the journalists who write about them should go without a drink for one day. Yeah, that would be horrible.

doufree on April 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM

Please assure the Democrat-Socialist-Agrarian Reformers Party apparatchik that if there’s any puke in the streets it won’t be from Republicans.

whitetop on April 5, 2008 at 8:55 AM

and for that matter, neither can cars.

damn, so, what CAN they sell on a Sunday?

DaveC on April 5, 2008 at 9:13 AM

They don’t call them square heads for nothing.

RobCon on April 5, 2008 at 9:14 AM

Will the cost of cleaning puke outweigh the revenue gained by merchants? I don’t think so. I can understand both sides positions, but lets not forget that this is a rare opportunity for the cities to make some extra money that they just wouldn’t have seen had it not been for this convention.

Pam on April 5, 2008 at 9:25 AM

Bars close at 2 AM in the twin cities. They close at 1 AM here in Omaha but I’m not a regular at bars anymore so it really doesn’t bother me.

Yakko77 on April 5, 2008 at 9:35 AM

The Twin Cities are fine as middle of the road places go. But it’s a joke that the GOP convention is happening there.

Sugar Land on April 5, 2008 at 9:49 AM

Keep the laws/traditions whatever. Going all metrosexual for the convention for what? A week in the sun? I like quirky communities. I don’t want every American city to be a franchise of the next.

Here in Texas we have all those ‘blue-laws’ too. Here we have a dry/wet law that not a single person can tell you the how or why of it. This side of the street is wet, the other side of my street is dry.

Keep Minnesota Minnesota. If the rest of the States get offended tell em to stuff it.

Limerick on April 5, 2008 at 10:13 AM

wow, interesting I find this whole thing disturbing.

Why should cities be changing their LAWS to cater to an outside Political Group?

I guess its OK for the folks to live this way, but the Princes of the Republican party (who already knew the laws there and chose the place anyway) get the laws changed?

Wow… talk about a lack of equal protection under the law…. for the powerfull…

That this is even being considered tells me that the two political parties have way too much power… and no shame…

Romeo13 on April 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM

I think cleaning puke off the streets is going to be the least of their problems.

They will be way too busy with the rioting, arson and general mayhem caused by the Soros/Turner/Heinz-Kerry financed anarchists and other radical leftists.

Nahanni on April 5, 2008 at 10:57 AM

So you’re saying that the ability to buy a beer at 2:01 AM is the determiner of what is and what isn’t a “world-class metropolitan area”? I got news for you. Even if you keep the bars open, M/SP wrll still be a “secondary market with delusions of grandeur”.

dm60462 on April 5, 2008 at 11:28 AM

I’ve been to two national conventions and it’s my observation that the Rep will have no problem with a 2:am bar closure. Half the delegates will be Evangelicals and the other half will be old ladies in red suits with elephant pins. There will be a good number of politicans and press, however. I’m sure they would like the bars open 24-7.
Repubs are not big party animals and I can recall previous cities complaining because they thought getting a national convention meant huge bucks to the community. It’s probably true if it’s a Dem convention.

thatcher on April 5, 2008 at 11:35 AM

No. Minneapolis and St. Paul should stick to their guns regarding bar closings. It will keep both cities relatively stable during the convention. It will make the convention in Denver look chaotic.

mram on April 5, 2008 at 11:36 AM

I haven’t drank alcohol for ten years but may have to revert to 1/2 gallon of Holy Water…
(1 quart Christian Brothers Brandy, 1/2 quart icewater)
to get sick enough to pull the lever for McLame..
I most certainly will not go to the Republican National Convention and give legitimacy to this party who has abandoned me and much of what I believe in..
Where have all the real men gone?

dhunter on April 5, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Politics of Booze

First candidate that can down a case of Duff Beer gets my vote.

Kini on April 5, 2008 at 12:27 PM

The Twin Cities wanted this convention to show that we are a world-class metropolitan area, and not a secondary market with delusions of grandeur.

Isn’t this evidence that the Twin Cities is the latter, and not the former?

misterpeasea on April 5, 2008 at 1:09 PM

Look, the Republican Party knew about these laws when it CHOSE the Twin Cities. There’s no reason to change ‘em, especially if your drunk driving task force is stuck dealing with protesters. Heck, the only people gonna be put out by a Blue Law are Protesters and the Press, and I say let ‘em stock up if they want a drink. It’s not that hard, and going without a party bar for one night isn’t exactly gonna make the Twin Cities look backwards.

Great Cities are judged on different criteria. Just so you know. ;)

Mr Michael on April 5, 2008 at 1:20 PM

St Paul is a great city. Minneapolis – not so much. It’s amazing how different two cities that close by can be.

Corsair on April 5, 2008 at 2:02 PM

If the AoSHQ gang shows up, there may be rivers of regurgitated Valu-Rite vodka flowing. Plus, er, nevermind – we shan’t mention the plight of the hobos.

Just sayin’ ;)

jrl on April 5, 2008 at 7:57 AM

Let’s just say there won’t be a hobo problem once Aceapalooza rolls through.

steveegg on April 5, 2008 at 2:10 PM

So being able to get drunk on Sunday or past midnight is evidence of a world class metropolitan area? How pathetic.

Rose on April 5, 2008 at 2:26 PM

I hope all goes well for those attending the convention. I have a very soft spot for Minneapolis. I was there on a 3 month business trip when 9/11 occurred.

I was staying at the Hilton, I think. The night of 9/12 some guy came downtown and gave a solo performance of God Bless American on a trumpet after dark on a street corner. It was echoing throughout the entire downtown area. Very haunting and beautiful listening to it behind the glassed windows of the hotel.

Sorry, off topic.

BowHuntingTexas on April 5, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Who cares? If the bars are closed, we’ve all been invited to HA commenter infidel’s house, so long as we wear masks, right?

Entelechy on April 5, 2008 at 3:30 PM

Am I the only one who has no idea what “sidewalks rolled” means?

DaveS on April 5, 2008 at 3:44 PM

I don’t know much about the Twin Cities, but I always thought St. Paul was the more conservative of the two.

rightwingprof on April 5, 2008 at 4:17 PM

Cold Omaha? Ha! Arrogant bastards, we can buy alcohol on Sundays, and cars for that matter.

Peasants!

Vinnie on April 5, 2008 at 4:42 PM

I don’t know much about the Twin Cities, but I always thought St. Paul was the more conservative of the two.

Nope, they’re both equally liberal and completely devoid of any semblance of reality.

I moved here 12 years ago from North Idaho, and am never surprised at the stupidity and utter foolishness of the politicians here. They’d fit right in with Uncle Joe’s cabinet.

The GOP Convention will be a mess outside the Xcel Center, thanks to the moonbats that Soros and Company will bus in.

Blue-eyed Infidel on April 5, 2008 at 8:43 PM

Oddly enough, nobody in recent memory has proposed changing the law to allow Sunday sales of vehicles in MN, if I remember correctly.

Dealer personnel appreciate having a day off. I believe the last time this was proposed 15-20 years ago, the Greater Minneapolis Area Dealer Association opposed it.

Buyers like being able to casually walk the sales lots without being pestered by salespersons the minute they enter.

Believe it or not, this is a good thing.

Dr. Bob on April 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM

Am I the only one who has no idea what “sidewalks rolled” means?

DaveS on April 5, 2008 at 3:44 PM

Ed is doing a flip on the saying that a town is so small “they roll up the sidewalks at night.”

Everything is shut down and there’s nothing to do and you don’t need the sidewalks.

I have no idea of its origin. Perhaps it was originally said by a New Yorker venturing outside of the City…

:-)

INC on April 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM

It’s almost like reading the Onion!

Capitana on April 5, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Yup it sucks here in Minneapolis and St Paul. All you yokels in NY and CA have it really really great and should stay right where you are! It’s really really bad here!!! Don’t move here…EVER!!!

sabbott on April 6, 2008 at 6:43 AM

“We can be a cold Omaha or we can stand up and be a 24-hour city,” said downtown DFL Council Member Lisa Goodman.

24 hours a day is not too long to be Communist.

I wonder what the Red Star Tribune will have to say?

drjohn on April 6, 2008 at 9:44 AM

I’m driving to Minneapolis for the Republican National Convention with a trailer full of NoDoz to sell at the door to the delegates and return home a millionaire.

Tantor on April 7, 2008 at 12:47 AM

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