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	<title>Comments on: Indonesia to YouTube: Pull &#8220;Fitna&#8221; or you&#8217;re banned</title>
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		<title>By: SaintOlaf</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1046587</link>
		<dc:creator>SaintOlaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully indonesia &lt;strong&gt;WILL&lt;/strong&gt; ban youtube access to it&#039;s citizens....half of all the al qaeda and barack hussein obama videos on youtube will disappear overnight. 

I can only stand seeing so many al qaeda and/or Hussein Obama videos on youtube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully indonesia <strong>WILL</strong> ban youtube access to it&#8217;s citizens&#8230;.half of all the al qaeda and barack hussein obama videos on youtube will disappear overnight. </p>
<p>I can only stand seeing so many al qaeda and/or Hussein Obama videos on youtube.</p>
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		<title>By: Capitana</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1046220</link>
		<dc:creator>Capitana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I propose we set up out own video sharing site called &quot;MooTube: Youtube with all the bullcrap filtered out&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I propose we set up out own video sharing site called &#8220;MooTube: Youtube with all the bullcrap filtered out&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tzetzes</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1046119</link>
		<dc:creator>Tzetzes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;kgs_mvs on April 2, 2008 at 4:26 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Well spotted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>kgs_mvs on April 2, 2008 at 4:26 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Well spotted!</p>
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		<title>By: kgs_mvs</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1046048</link>
		<dc:creator>kgs_mvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we&#039;re on the subject of removal of offensive items from the web.  I did a quick search on google for &quot;Why is fitna offensive?&quot;.  One of the top five links was for a Yahoo Answers search, but when I went to check it out, the question had been deleted.  I wonder if someone asked them to remove it.  Could it be that even questions about why fitna is offensive are offensive to some Muslims?  Anyway, Yahoo must have forgotten about Google &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:K04WZHngom8J:answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20080330172854AAIRoS9+why+is+fitna+offensive%3F&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=5&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cached&lt;/a&gt;&quot; link, which is still active.  There was an interesting slip (that some would certainly call Freudian) by one of the posters:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The quotes were grossly taken out of context and it makes ALL of us Muslims look like a bunch of violent freaks. The vast majority of us (9.9999999%) are not violent freaks and that video put a bad image of Muslims and it gives a misrepresentation of Islam. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we&#8217;re on the subject of removal of offensive items from the web.  I did a quick search on google for &#8220;Why is fitna offensive?&#8221;.  One of the top five links was for a Yahoo Answers search, but when I went to check it out, the question had been deleted.  I wonder if someone asked them to remove it.  Could it be that even questions about why fitna is offensive are offensive to some Muslims?  Anyway, Yahoo must have forgotten about Google &#8220;<a href="http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:K04WZHngom8J:answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20080330172854AAIRoS9+why+is+fitna+offensive%3F&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=5&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">cached</a>&#8221; link, which is still active.  There was an interesting slip (that some would certainly call Freudian) by one of the posters:</p>
<blockquote><p>The quotes were grossly taken out of context and it makes ALL of us Muslims look like a bunch of violent freaks. The vast majority of us (9.9999999%) are not violent freaks and that video put a bad image of Muslims and it gives a misrepresentation of Islam. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1046035</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Years ago, when I was a network admin, I used to employ a program called squidguard on Linux to block sites/types of files, etc. It really isn’t very difficult if you have the right tools.

jdawg on April 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Easy to do, if you control the network connections and can force them to go through your proxy server.  But only if you block all SSL web servers, because there are some SSL web servers that exist only to encrypt and proxy the web page in order to bypass all filters.

I think the only practical approach is to try to control DNS so the youtube URL doesn&#039;t resolve to the actual IP address.  But all it really takes to bypass that is to put the IP address for Youtube in your hosts file or change your DNS name servers to use those outside of Indonesia.

The problem with Indonesia changing their DNS servers is that those changes might propagate to other DNS servers and cause severe problems for Youtube around the world.  Indonesia wouldn&#039;t be bothered by that, but everyone else would be.

Of course, all it takes is for someone to download the video and start emailing it.

Censorship in the Internet age is nearly impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Years ago, when I was a network admin, I used to employ a program called squidguard on Linux to block sites/types of files, etc. It really isn’t very difficult if you have the right tools.</p>
<p>jdawg on April 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Easy to do, if you control the network connections and can force them to go through your proxy server.  But only if you block all SSL web servers, because there are some SSL web servers that exist only to encrypt and proxy the web page in order to bypass all filters.</p>
<p>I think the only practical approach is to try to control DNS so the youtube URL doesn&#8217;t resolve to the actual IP address.  But all it really takes to bypass that is to put the IP address for Youtube in your hosts file or change your DNS name servers to use those outside of Indonesia.</p>
<p>The problem with Indonesia changing their DNS servers is that those changes might propagate to other DNS servers and cause severe problems for Youtube around the world.  Indonesia wouldn&#8217;t be bothered by that, but everyone else would be.</p>
<p>Of course, all it takes is for someone to download the video and start emailing it.</p>
<p>Censorship in the Internet age is nearly impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: American Power</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1046030</link>
		<dc:creator>American Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Freedom of Speech and the Islamist Threat...&lt;/strong&gt;

Freedom of speech is under assault ... the threat is so great that Geert Wilders film can not be shown in public .... There is widespread denial, across the political spectrum, of Islams threat to our civilization......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Freedom of Speech and the Islamist Threat&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Freedom of speech is under assault &#8230; the threat is so great that Geert Wilders film can not be shown in public &#8230;. There is widespread denial, across the political spectrum, of Islams threat to our civilization&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tzetzes</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045812</link>
		<dc:creator>Tzetzes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let Indonesia ban them.  It&#039;s called cutting your nose off to spite your face, and only hurts Indonesia (former colony, by the way, of the Netherlands).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let Indonesia ban them.  It&#8217;s called cutting your nose off to spite your face, and only hurts Indonesia (former colony, by the way, of the Netherlands).</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045793</link>
		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While LimeyGeek is right, technically and philosophically, they&#039;re not aiming to stop this physically. To them a victory would mean for YouTube to say that they stopped it. Just like LL was, but then fortunately reversed decision.

It&#039;s no different than the games Microsoft plays with China.

It&#039;s the war of ideas, for &#039;hearts and minds&#039;, they&#039;re aiming to, and easier for them, to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While LimeyGeek is right, technically and philosophically, they&#8217;re not aiming to stop this physically. To them a victory would mean for YouTube to say that they stopped it. Just like LL was, but then fortunately reversed decision.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no different than the games Microsoft plays with China.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the war of ideas, for &#8216;hearts and minds&#8217;, they&#8217;re aiming to, and easier for them, to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045734</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Connie on April 2, 2008 at 11:06 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How do you do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Connie on April 2, 2008 at 11:06 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>How do you do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045731</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;mojo on April 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have lived in Indonesia.  I was treated very well while I was there.  However, that was back when I considered myself an agnostic and I didn&#039;t talk about Christianity at all.  If I were there today and spoke publicly in the same way as I do here on HotAir, how do you think I would be treated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>mojo on April 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>I have lived in Indonesia.  I was treated very well while I was there.  However, that was back when I considered myself an agnostic and I didn&#8217;t talk about Christianity at all.  If I were there today and spoke publicly in the same way as I do here on HotAir, how do you think I would be treated?</p>
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		<title>By: TexasDan</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045654</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasDan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be fascinating to see YouTube actually attempt to throw its own weight around.  What better test ground than a market which cannot possibly have any significant revenue contribution?

Ban &#039;em, SBY, and see what the rakyat have to say about it.  It&#039;s more likely to be distributed by pirated CD copies in Indonesia anyway.

How many churches were &lt;em&gt;diresolusi&lt;/em&gt; and closed in Indonesia last year?  And SBY has the gall to lecture on &quot;a moral obligation to prevent religious or cultural defamation&quot;.  Unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be fascinating to see YouTube actually attempt to throw its own weight around.  What better test ground than a market which cannot possibly have any significant revenue contribution?</p>
<p>Ban &#8216;em, SBY, and see what the rakyat have to say about it.  It&#8217;s more likely to be distributed by pirated CD copies in Indonesia anyway.</p>
<p>How many churches were <em>diresolusi</em> and closed in Indonesia last year?  And SBY has the gall to lecture on &#8220;a moral obligation to prevent religious or cultural defamation&#8221;.  Unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045487</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;LimeyGeek on April 2, 2008 at 11:19 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s actually amusing. Since I posted the above to you, there have been 2 more Fitna hits from Malaysia and one from Egypt. Looks like the citizens are voting for the right to see it, imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>LimeyGeek on April 2, 2008 at 11:19 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s actually amusing. Since I posted the above to you, there have been 2 more Fitna hits from Malaysia and one from Egypt. Looks like the citizens are voting for the right to see it, imo.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045472</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;LimeyGeek on April 2, 2008 at 11:19 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah. Here&#039;s another just in:

Domain Name	 	tm.net.my ? (Malaysia)
IP Address	 	60.50.12.# (Telekom Malaysia Berhad)
ISP	 	Telekom Malaysia Berhad
Location	 	
Continent	 : 	Asia
Country	 : 	Malaysia  (Facts)
State/Region	 : 	Kedah
City	 : 	Sungai Petani</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>LimeyGeek on April 2, 2008 at 11:19 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah. Here&#8217;s another just in:</p>
<p>Domain Name	 	tm.net.my ? (Malaysia)<br />
IP Address	 	60.50.12.# (Telekom Malaysia Berhad)<br />
ISP	 	Telekom Malaysia Berhad<br />
Location<br />
Continent	 : 	Asia<br />
Country	 : 	Malaysia  (Facts)<br />
State/Region	 : 	Kedah<br />
City	 : 	Sungai Petani</p>
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		<title>By: Geronimo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045368</link>
		<dc:creator>Geronimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I can go to Youtube, look at spider bites, suckerpunches, girlfights, racist comedians, puke contests, suicide bombers, dead things but if someone wants to speak the truth about a certain religion of hate, they get banned because one of the countries in which this religion resides is threatening them? 
Got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I can go to Youtube, look at spider bites, suckerpunches, girlfights, racist comedians, puke contests, suicide bombers, dead things but if someone wants to speak the truth about a certain religion of hate, they get banned because one of the countries in which this religion resides is threatening them?<br />
Got it.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffinSac</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045353</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffinSac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m assuming, as imposing some sort of keyword block, but is there any way to limit that block to a single site or would you necessarily have to block that keyword for the entire Internet? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It would all depend on the different filtering program you are using and you would use multiple key words to block it that way like &quot;Fitna + YouTube&quot;. 

An easier way is if you know exactly what the specific URL is to block, which each video has on YouTube and all the need to do is block that. 

An example is all they would want to do is block http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37w-aXGk8M0 and any other URL pointing to the video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m assuming, as imposing some sort of keyword block, but is there any way to limit that block to a single site or would you necessarily have to block that keyword for the entire Internet? </p></blockquote>
<p>It would all depend on the different filtering program you are using and you would use multiple key words to block it that way like &#8220;Fitna + YouTube&#8221;. </p>
<p>An easier way is if you know exactly what the specific URL is to block, which each video has on YouTube and all the need to do is block that. </p>
<p>An example is all they would want to do is block <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37w-aXGk8M0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37w-aXGk8M0</a> and any other URL pointing to the video.</p>
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		<title>By: Rogue Traveler</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045330</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogue Traveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Islamic law always seems to hold the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=1.0.2031812946&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;high ground&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Islamic law always seems to hold the <a href="http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Religion/?id=1.0.2031812946" rel="nofollow">high ground</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045326</link>
		<dc:creator>mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the YouTube &quot;Say Anything You Like About Indonesia Week&quot;. Feel free to insult, slander or blaspheme the third-world hell-hole to your Infidel heart&#039;s content!!

Never piss off someone with global media coverage, ya schmucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the YouTube &#8220;Say Anything You Like About Indonesia Week&#8221;. Feel free to insult, slander or blaspheme the third-world hell-hole to your Infidel heart&#8217;s content!!</p>
<p>Never piss off someone with global media coverage, ya schmucks.</p>
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		<title>By: LimeyGeek</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/02/indonesia-to-youtube-pull-fitna-or-youre-banned/comment-page-1/#comment-1045317</link>
		<dc:creator>LimeyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scratch that. I should google before I post ;)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia_Internet_Exchange&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Background&lt;/a&gt;, for what it&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scratch that. I should google before I post ;)<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia_Internet_Exchange" rel="nofollow">Background</a>, for what it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;LimeyGeek on April 2, 2008 at 11:14 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know. I have a file from HA&#039;s sitemeter that I&#039;m keeping. I&#039;ll have to read back through to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>LimeyGeek on April 2, 2008 at 11:14 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know. I have a file from HA&#8217;s sitemeter that I&#8217;m keeping. I&#8217;ll have to read back through to see.</p>
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		<title>By: LimeyGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>LimeyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Connie on April 2, 2008 at 11:06 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Does Indonesia have only one (state run) ISP? Telekomunikasi Indonesia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Connie on April 2, 2008 at 11:06 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Does Indonesia have only one (state run) ISP? Telekomunikasi Indonesia?</p>
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		<title>By: jdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if You-tube blocked it, it can be downloaded as a torrent.  There are ways around practically everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if You-tube blocked it, it can be downloaded as a torrent.  There are ways around practically everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rywall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Rywall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Pill how&#039;s that glue you&#039;re sniffing?  Perhaps it&#039;s preventing you from remaining on topic.

OMG Obama&#039;s middle name is HUSSEIN? He lived in Indonesia? That is breaking news. He must be a terrist.

And no, Obama would not employ Wright to perform the swearing in ceremony. Duh.

And everyone who embraces Christianity is welcome with open arms but not Obama? Shame on you. You&#039;re a horrible Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Pill how&#8217;s that glue you&#8217;re sniffing?  Perhaps it&#8217;s preventing you from remaining on topic.</p>
<p>OMG Obama&#8217;s middle name is HUSSEIN? He lived in Indonesia? That is breaking news. He must be a terrist.</p>
<p>And no, Obama would not employ Wright to perform the swearing in ceremony. Duh.</p>
<p>And everyone who embraces Christianity is welcome with open arms but not Obama? Shame on you. You&#8217;re a horrible Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah! Just in here reading this thread:

Domain Name	 	telkom.net.id ? (Indonesia)
IP Address	 	222.124.219.# (PT. Telekomunikasi Indonesia)
ISP	 	PT. Telekomunikasi Indonesia
Location	 	
Continent	 : 	Asia
Country	 : 	Indonesia  (Facts)
State/Region	 : 	Jawa Barat
City	 : 	Jakarta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! Just in here reading this thread:</p>
<p>Domain Name	 	telkom.net.id ? (Indonesia)<br />
IP Address	 	222.124.219.# (PT. Telekomunikasi Indonesia)<br />
ISP	 	PT. Telekomunikasi Indonesia<br />
Location<br />
Continent	 : 	Asia<br />
Country	 : 	Indonesia  (Facts)<br />
State/Region	 : 	Jawa Barat<br />
City	 : 	Jakarta</p>
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		<title>By: BacaDog</title>
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		<dc:creator>BacaDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The government of the world’s most populous Islamic state says YouTube has two days to take down a Dutch lawmaker’s provocative film on the Koran or it will block access to the popular video-sharing Web site…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Welcome to the world, Indonesia.....of free speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The government of the world’s most populous Islamic state says YouTube has two days to take down a Dutch lawmaker’s provocative film on the Koran or it will block access to the popular video-sharing Web site…</p></blockquote>
<p>Welcome to the world, Indonesia&#8230;..of free speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Pill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. spent four very formative years (ages six to ten) living in the capitol of the world’s most populous Islamic state.  He attended an Islamic school there.  His step-father was Muslim.  His birth father was Muslim.  His paternal grandparents were Muslim.  Barack &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;describes his mother, raised by non-religious parents, as detached from religion&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.

Barack&#039;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1546579,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My Spiritual Journey&lt;/a&gt;&quot;, which appeared in Time Magazine Monday, Oct. 16, 2006, mentions the name of &quot;Jesus&quot; exactly zero (0) times.  In that same article, Obama said.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It was because of these newfound understandings...that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Rev. &quot;God Damn America&quot; Wright was the source of Obama&#039;s &quot;newfound understandings&quot;.  The same man who would likely be Obama&#039;s choice to administer the Oath of Office to him, if Obama were to be elected.

And yet Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is acting like he is a Christian, in order to fool Christian voters.  Under pressure, he has claimed that he is a Christian and &quot;prays every night to Jesus&quot;.  All he has to do to convince Bible-believing Christians that he is, in fact, a Christian, is to confess with his mouth, &quot;Jesus is Lord&quot;.  

Three. Simple. Words.

But he can&#039;t and won&#039;t do it.

Why? 

Because:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and &lt;strong&gt;no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit&lt;/strong&gt;.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=53&amp;chapter=12&amp;verse=3&amp;version=50&amp;context=verse&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1 Corinthians 12:3 (New King James Version)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. spent four very formative years (ages six to ten) living in the capitol of the world’s most populous Islamic state.  He attended an Islamic school there.  His step-father was Muslim.  His birth father was Muslim.  His paternal grandparents were Muslim.  Barack &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama" rel="nofollow">describes his mother, raised by non-religious parents, as detached from religion</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>Barack&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1546579,00.html" rel="nofollow">My Spiritual Journey</a>&#8220;, which appeared in Time Magazine Monday, Oct. 16, 2006, mentions the name of &#8220;Jesus&#8221; exactly zero (0) times.  In that same article, Obama said.</p>
<blockquote><p>It was because of these newfound understandings&#8230;that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ one day and be baptized.</p></blockquote>
<p>Rev. &#8220;God Damn America&#8221; Wright was the source of Obama&#8217;s &#8220;newfound understandings&#8221;.  The same man who would likely be Obama&#8217;s choice to administer the Oath of Office to him, if Obama were to be elected.</p>
<p>And yet Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is acting like he is a Christian, in order to fool Christian voters.  Under pressure, he has claimed that he is a Christian and &#8220;prays every night to Jesus&#8221;.  All he has to do to convince Bible-believing Christians that he is, in fact, a Christian, is to confess with his mouth, &#8220;Jesus is Lord&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Three. Simple. Words.</p>
<p>But he can&#8217;t and won&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>Why? </p>
<p>Because:</p>
<blockquote><p>Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and <strong>no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit</strong>.<br />
<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=53&amp;chapter=12&amp;verse=3&amp;version=50&amp;context=verse" rel="nofollow">1 Corinthians 12:3 (New King James Version)</a></p></blockquote>
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