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Civilization ends: Cops bust plot to kidnap teacher organized by … third-graders

posted at 9:10 am on April 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
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“What, were they going to tie her up with silly string?” No, from the sound of it, they had duct tape in mind for that. What the broken steak knife and crystal paperweight were for is anyone’s guess. Exit question: Who ever thought this site might have any real-world applications? Click the image to watch.

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awake on April 2, 2008 at 9:15 AM

3rd graders. It’s almost unfathomable.

Spirit of 1776 on April 2, 2008 at 9:19 AM

Four mothers of other third-grade students at Center Elementary called for the immediate expulsion of the suspected plotters.

Stacy Carter and Deana Hiott both cited school system policy stating that any student who brings “anything reasonably considered to be a weapon” is to be expelled for at least the remainder of the school year.

“We don’t want our children around them,” Carter told the Times-Union. “The one with the knife could have stabbed my child or someone else’s child at lunch or out on the playground.”

Racists!

funky chicken on April 2, 2008 at 9:24 AM

These kids might have been watching too many cop shows and movies.

madame_bluetooth on April 2, 2008 at 9:25 AM

april fools! Oh wait…what??!

drift on April 2, 2008 at 9:26 AM

I’d like to know what the families’ DVD viewing and TV show watching habits are. Bet the kids get a lot of CSI and/or Law and Order viewing in with mom and dad.

jon1979 on April 2, 2008 at 9:26 AM

What is our children learning?

Teamwork, appearantly.

Tony737 on April 2, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Allow me to imagine they were fighting back at the liberal brainwashing they had to endure the last three years.
It takes a village to f–k up an entire third grade class. A village where personal responsibility is not the norm.
Yep, I am pointing my finger at the adults, you know, the “village people”. As long as they spread the responsibility, no one will be held responsible. Get where they are coming from now?

leanright on April 2, 2008 at 9:32 AM

29 but I wouldn’t wanna experience it , just the same, thank you!

MNDavenotPC on April 2, 2008 at 9:34 AM

26!

Thursby on April 2, 2008 at 9:35 AM

On FNC, they said the kids had well-defined roles worked out. For example, one was assigned the job of cleaning up the blood.

Chilling.

aero on April 2, 2008 at 9:35 AM

I doubt my home schooled 1st and 2nd graders will be plotting to kill their teacher mom in the next couple of years. I don’t think my kids need the socialism socialization skills that they are teaching in that school.

Tony737 on April 2, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Love it!

jdog on April 2, 2008 at 9:37 AM

28. Huh…

Tablis on April 2, 2008 at 9:37 AM

How many stories have we all heard about where harsh punishments were inflicted we thought without merit, but all in the sake of “erring on the safe side”? For example, a kindergartner is charged with sexual harassment for hugging a teacher, a girl is suspended for bringing a knife to school to cut her lunch, etc. Now we have a real case with a premeditated conspiracy to inflict grave injuries including the use of blunt force trauma, stabbing, kidnapping, and cover up, and the kids are not going to be punished? The freaking world is upside-down.

JustTruth101 on April 2, 2008 at 9:38 AM

my wife and i were watching this news report and neither could remember kids acting this way.
i remember when they stopped doing the pledge and prayer in public school when i was young and its like a straight line from that desicion to this end imo.

o yeah 27 is my number :) LOL

trailortrash on April 2, 2008 at 9:39 AM

The story said they were third graders listed as 8 – 10 years old. If they all were 3rd graders, that revels a problem by itself. But after seeing the weapons they brought to school, it’s time to investigate their “parent(s)” as well.

http://www.wjxx.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=106114

Zaire67 on April 2, 2008 at 9:39 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344369,00.html

A prosecutor said they are too young to be charged with a crime under Georgia law

I could not believe when I read that and I think Georgia seriously needs to look into changing its laws if this is the case. If the kids can not be charge then the parents should be. I am also willing the bet that the majority of this kids come from single parent families or families with fathers who are in trouble with the law

JeffinSac on April 2, 2008 at 9:39 AM

31

Darksbane on April 2, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Aw geez. I’m waiting for the fundamentalist nut to want to send these little terorrists to Gitmo.

LT Nixon on April 2, 2008 at 9:45 AM

Update: I just heard on MS-NBC that three of the kids are being charged with aggravated assault, so if true that’s good…these kids need to learn about consequences.

JustTruth101 on April 2, 2008 at 9:46 AM

All of them need to be charged with conspiracy to commit. I don’t care that they’re eight. If they want to play adult games then they need adult consequences.

MadisonConservative on April 2, 2008 at 9:53 AM

“The children, ages 8 and 9, were apparently mad at the teacher because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair …”

How DARE she?! It appears that these kids are spoiled rotten and they run their households. “Mom! Buy me this candy! NOW!” “Yes, Poopkins.”

Tony737 on April 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM

Tony737 on April 2, 2008 at 9:31 AM

It’s the Wonder Pets!

We’re not too big

And we’re not too tough

But when we work together, we’ve got the Right Stuff.

Pam on April 2, 2008 at 9:57 AM

Dang, only 22. Must be due to my age.

On FNC, they said the kids had well-defined roles worked out. For example, one was assigned the job of cleaning up the blood.

Hey, they’re planning ahead. That puts them one step ahead of Congress.

rbj on April 2, 2008 at 9:58 AM

What is our children learning?

Teamwork, appearantly.

Tony737 on April 2, 2008 at 9:31 AM

too funny..

DaveC on April 2, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Hey, they’re planning ahead. That puts them one step ahead of Congress.

rbj on April 2, 2008 at 9:58 AM

they would have the right instincts for working in DC as well..

DaveC on April 2, 2008 at 10:14 AM

I’d say all our numbers would go down re: How many 5 year olds… if there were questions like if they brought duct tape and steak knives with them…

This story is just incredible. And all signs so far point to these being typical, normal kids from normal families. With a veteran teacher. At least their plan never came to fruition.

JetBoy on April 2, 2008 at 10:18 AM

The getaway car was found at a nearby Toys ‘R Us with pedal extensions and phone books stacked in the driver’s seat.

Sounds like Radical Postmodern Little Rascals hyjinx are afoot.

Next week:
Geraldo, Yulanda, Muhammad, Eczema and Spanky build a pipe bomb.

(Cue The Radical Postmodern Little Rascal’s theme)

Hening on April 2, 2008 at 10:18 AM

“It takes a village to raise a child”

That is pretty much the mantra of Georgia public schools as a whole. Coincidentally, Georgia always ranks right at the bottom of the pile for school systems.

Interesting connection there.

warrenmr on April 2, 2008 at 10:19 AM

Net results when people let TV, cell phones, and video games raise their little snowflakes for them.

leanright on April 2, 2008 at 10:28 AM

Third graders are supposed to be innocent in nature. Where did they get the idea? Video games? Movies? Hearing their parents’ talk? What?

Waycross, Georgia, is a small town in southern Georgia. It appears to have some very serious problems.

indythinker on April 2, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Can you believe that some people say that the kids aren’t learning anything in public schools?

TooTall on April 2, 2008 at 10:29 AM

yeah…that little shout out to Hillary’s “village” at the end there was strange and out of place. so the school is at fault for this?

newflash: it takes a mommy and a daddy to raise a child. the village people better stay out of our way.

pecan pie on April 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM

As a former school administrator myself, here’s the probable backstory…

These kids, regardless of socio-economic status, come from families headed by parents who demand others be held accountable for every single slight while they themselves are notorious for avoiding accountability for their own transgressions. These kids see their parents lie their way out of every tough spot, plot against coworkers, and blame everyone but themselves for their own failures and bad behaviors.

These kids have internalized their parents’ values and now those values are being played out in real life. In 12 yrs, these kids, if left unchecked, will be the very kids I used to expell from college for selling drugs, vandalism, plagarism, producing fake id’s, and assault on roommates… all of whom have parents who scream lawsuit every time someone tries to hold their kid accountable.

Vicious cycle… and it needs to end… NOW.

Gartrip on April 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM

Feminism will destroy civilization. Count on it.

Connie on April 2, 2008 at 10:45 AM

yeah…that little shout out to Hillary’s “village” at the end there was strange and out of place. so the school is at fault for this?

newflash: it takes a mommy and a daddy to raise a child. the village people better stay out of our way.

pecan pie on April 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM

I was thinking the same, and I’m so tired of hearing that ignorant mantra being used for adults who can’t or don’t want to take responsibility for their own kids. My problem also with the “it takes a village” crap, is if you, as an individual, were to step in and try to discipline someone else’s kid, or tell them to behave, you’d have their parents wake up from their stupor and start screaming and threatening lawsuits against you.

4shoes on April 2, 2008 at 10:48 AM

Aw geez. I’m waiting for the fundamentalist nut to want to send these little terorrists to Gitmo

Nah, you don’t need to send them to gitmo. Just bribe some 5th graders to beat the cr*p out of them during recess while you’re on playground duty..and then have a bathroom emergency. By the time you’re back, the nurse will be sweeping the pieces into a garbage bag..and then it’s time for lunch!
I kid. Seriously though, given that these kids got to this point at so young an age, I really wonder how the parents are going to bring them back to some kind of normal value system. Will the parents even try? Or will they do as many above speculate and threaten lawsuits? Will they be angry at their kids for the plot, or for getting caught? If it was my school, those kids wouldn’t set foot in it ever again. Put them in a supervised bootcamp until the graduate or turn 18. If they were thinking about what they wanted to do to a teacher, what might they do to another kid? If the parents threat lawsuits, I would encourage the teacher in question to go after each set of parents legally. Yes, lame, I know, but I wouldnt’ let the parents of these little monsters get the moral high ground.

austinnelly on April 2, 2008 at 11:02 AM

Allah,
You linked what you called the greatest blog post ever on you old site. Do you remember it? Is it still out there?

3rd_Bird on April 2, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Why not? I believe it. Kids are running their parents. What would stop them from learning all sort of evil things? Anyone who thinks children are innocent are mental defectives.

saved on April 2, 2008 at 11:08 AM

Pam on April 2, 2008 at 9:57 AM

“What’s going to work? TEAMWORK!
What’s going to work? TEAMWORK!”

And I thought I was having a bad day with my son this morning. Now I have a little perspective. I’ll add this to the list of reasons that I homeschool.

TX Mom on April 2, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Now I’n not saying to charge these little would-be assassins with a felony but…at the age of ten I KNEW the difference between right and wrong. My guess is the little sh*ts will get some sort of kiddie anger management and a liberal slap on the wrist.

greasywrench on April 2, 2008 at 11:13 AM

I would say that CSI and Law and Order are definitely being watched at home. That’s some scary organization on their part.

At least the parents are cooperating with the investigation. They wouldn’t even be able to interview the kids without parent permission according to one report that I read.

TX Mom on April 2, 2008 at 11:17 AM

What is our children learning?

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Poor grammar skills?
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subbottomfeeder on April 2, 2008 at 11:18 AM

I see people blaming Law & Order and other type shows.

I blame Disney. Yes Disney.

Look at all the recent sitcoms and “family friendly” movies coming out. With the exception of the Pixar films, they all depict parents/teachers as ignorant doofuses who don’t know what they are talking about, the kids have to stop the evil doer by themselves- and half the time the principle and/or teachers are depicted as cartoonishly evil beings that must be stopped.

It used to be there was an occasional movie like this- now that’s pretty much all you see anymore.

What ever happened to shows like the Cosby Show. I mean- that showed a normal health family- now we get shows focused around kids running wild in their schools. Fathers in particular are always shown as useless dumb weaklings.

Sackett on April 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM

One of my coworkers said that it was obviously today’s ultra-violent video games that were to blame.

*rolls eyes*

Jockolantern on April 2, 2008 at 11:37 AM

LT Nixon on April 2, 2008 at 9:45 AM

Not Gitmo, they’d eat better than they probably do at home, get sunshine and exercise.

MNDavenotPC on April 2, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Allah,
You linked what you called the greatest blog post ever on you old site. Do you remember it? Is it still out there?

3rd_Bird on April 2, 2008 at 11:07 AM

It’s linked above. Click on “this site.”

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM

Attila,
Not that one. In the post I’m refering to, the author pondered the thought of how many kids he could take on. He had a photo of a 5th grade class, and one by one rated their strengths,weaknesses, and how he would go about kicking their butts. It was hilarious.

3rd_Bird on April 2, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Gartrip on April 2, 2008 at 10:32 AM

Excellent points!

TooTall on April 2, 2008 at 12:00 PM

I assumed they were the same thing. Sorry.

Personally, I never liked the one you describe, although I did have it in mind when I did a spoof the other day of Bill Clinton being interviewed by a six-year-old girl.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM

I doubt my home schooled 1st and 2nd graders will be plotting to kill their teacher mom in the next couple of years.

jdog on April 2, 2008 at 9:37 AM

Yet another example of the failure of public schools. They don’t teach kids real life skills. These kids have just been passed from grade to grade without actually having to perform. And this is the quality of work you get from a system like that.

Homeschool kids would have got the job done right. My kids would have harvested my organs and had them for sale on Ebay by now.

If these kids are an example of the kind of workforce we’re creating, I fear for the future of America.

29Victor on April 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Was the teacher, by chance, an aged hippie? If so, I’m sure that Cartman kid was the instigator.

Doc Mike on April 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Sackett on April 2, 2008 at 11:34 AM

I guess you really weren’t paying close attention to what was going on in the Cosby Show. All the male characters were belittled by the female characters.

Zaire67 on April 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM

24.

Travis Bickle on April 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM

14 Geez, I feel like such an underachiever! To the gym!

Dr. Conservative on April 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Zaire67 on April 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM

I guess you really weren’t paying close attention to what was going on in the Cosby Show. All the male characters were belittled by the female characters.

Yes, but it was the normal give and take. Clair might have given Bill a hard time, but Bill was also always outsmarting the kids, seeing through their lies. He also often outsmarted his wife, (and sometimes she outsmarted him). It was obviously a relationship of equals. Just look at sitcoms like “Yes, Dear” or “Malcom in the Middle” or even “Everybody Loves Raymond” and try and say they are anything similar.

PS: I can take 26 5 year olds (Not a surprise since I just started counting up the number of fights I’ve been in and reached 8 or 9 before I was in the fifth grade.)

Sackett on April 2, 2008 at 12:38 PM

Exit question: Who ever thought this site might have any real-world applications?

30, but I don’t think that survey is accurate. 5-year-old kids are pretty uncoordinated, like overgrown babies. I don’t care how “ruthless” they are, it’s just going to be a question of stomping until you’re too tired to move.

And “unconscious” is a pretty high standard. Kids have a ridiculously low pain tolerance. They’re going to start running unless you’re talking about pre-school zombies or something.

Third-graders would be a different story. But with a whole basketball court to work with, I still figure I could take out 15-20 – unless they were trained to work as a team, then all bets are off, I don’t know whether I could beat more than five or six if they knew what they were doing.

I can honestly say I’ve never thought about this before, but once I got into it that was kind of fun.

logis on April 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM

(Cue The Radical Postmodern Little Rascal’s theme)

Hening on April 2, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Blood-thirsty killers!

Shy Guy on April 2, 2008 at 1:22 PM

27. I think that is because of the ruthlessness.

JustPlainBill on April 2, 2008 at 1:26 PM

Putting condoms on bananas can only hold your attention span so long and boredom sets in. Then it is take matters into your own hands.

wepeople on April 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM

No child juvenile delinquent left behind.

labrat on April 2, 2008 at 1:52 PM

25, but I’m at a loss to understand how anyone came up with such a sick idea in the first place.

Al in St. Lou on April 2, 2008 at 2:03 PM

I say we send these kids in to get Bin Laden. They couldn’t do any worse.

RobCon on April 2, 2008 at 2:05 PM

ha…34

Apparently I’m prepared for the inevitable assault of dozens of 5 year olds. Puts a new meaning to baby killer.

I say hold the parents responsible. Far too many people popping out babies without taking responsibility for them IMO. Accountability is a good thing.

blankminde on April 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM

logis on April 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM

Interesting thoughts. I think 3rd graders would be much more difficult, and as a team they would be even more troublesome. It all amounts to trouble for the teacher…trouble no teacher should have to consider. I wonder if the teacher had a gun?

blankminde on April 2, 2008 at 2:37 PM

25, but I’m at a loss to understand how anyone came up with such a sick idea in the first place.

Al in St. Lou on April 2, 2008 at 2:03 PM

The world’s a sick place. I forgot what I scored but when I was taking the quiz I recalled various posts about Palestinian kindergarten graduation ceremonies. That kicked my score up a few notches.

Canadian Infidel on April 2, 2008 at 3:01 PM

Homeschool kids would have got the job done right. My kids would have harvested my organs and had them for sale on Ebay by now.

If these kids are an example of the kind of workforce we’re creating, I fear for the future of America.

Oh, so true…mine as well.

As a teacher, however, this is scary. I’d be on disability leave quicker than you could shake a stick.

Bob's Kid on April 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM

I’m so proud….

Capitana on April 2, 2008 at 5:41 PM

31

However, I have an unfair advantage. I currently work at a middle school with emotionally disturbed teens. (think giant 5 year-olds on hormones)

I love them to pieces, but if they come for me, have NO doubts in my mind whatsoever about whether it will be them or me.

Lily on April 2, 2008 at 6:24 PM

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